Re: finding the name of the target's stack in a script

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I'm guessing almost everyone on this list have their own routines to do this and it's interesting to see the different methods. Here's mine, with a getOwner thrown in for good measure. function getGroup pid if word 1 of the owner of pid is not group then return empty else

RE: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread John Dixon
How do you work that one out ?! Dixie Subject: Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean? From: co...@verizon.net Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:25:35 -0400 To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com I think I know what the problem is. RunRev promised us feature parity with iOS and Android,

Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
LMAO……. -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: I think I know what the problem is. RunRev promised us feature parity with iOS and Android, and most existing LiveCode apps don't work under iOS 6. So, naturally

Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Well, feature parity, means things should perform the same on Android as on iOS. Which turns out not to be a good thing in this case. I am, of course, not serious about this. On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:30 AM, John Dixon dixo...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: How do you work that one out ?!

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
That is one of the problems with resizing controls based only on the size of the screen and not on the resolution of the device and not also changing the placement of controls based on the resolution of the device. For most apps the size of controls (and text) should remain the same when going

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Also, for some layouts when changing Orientation only the widths of controls may need to change based on the LAYOUT but not the height or text size. Trying to find one solution for all of these scenarios is not going to happen. Especially if you are using native controls (real or faked). --

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread John Allijn
Thanks Tom, you are right of course. I watched the tutorial and the resize tool makes it very tempting to design one app for all devices, but I will be better of with building an ipad and a iphone app and change the layout upon change in the orientation. On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Thomas

in-app purchase for MAC apps

2012-07-25 Thread paolo mazza
Hi All, Apple has added the in app purchases store kit for mac apps as of 10.7. I wonder if we can set up in-app purchase for MAC apps with the present version of LiveCode and sell them in the MAC store. All the best Paolo ___ use-livecode mailing list

MobileAddContact

2012-07-25 Thread John Dixon
Hey... Anybody played with this ? I can get it to work and it does work well, if I write it out in 'longhand' as it were... but I can't seem to be able to construct value pair strings into a variable to pass to the mobileAddContact command...:-( Adding a Contact You can add a contact by

RE: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread John Dixon
If you sit down by the river bank and wait long enough you will see the liveCode updates float by. old chinese software developers proverb With iOS6 right around the corner, do we have any indication of when LC will be updated to compensate for these new OS's?? Since I am new here, what

Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread Colin Holgate
People who have a developer bundle deal with RunRev get early builds, and also more direct contact with the team. We reported LiveCode apps not working on iOS 6 a while ago, and a fix was made, that is present in the current version. So, it's more reactive than proactive, but at least it's well

in-app purchase customers data

2012-07-25 Thread paolo mazza
Hi all, I have a question about in-app purchase of Apple.I was told Your server doesn't have to keep track of who has purchased what because Apple does that. Is it true? In particular I need to receive from Apple the email of my customers. Apple will send to me the name and the email of the

Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
Ok... that is promising news. Looks like this means I really need to get in on the developer bundle... SKIP On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote: People who have a developer bundle deal with RunRev get early builds, and also more direct contact with the

Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Ive had a couple of emails from users of my apps that say they look great on a normal Mac, but terrible on the new Macbook Retina. Im guessing this is probably because there are some background images, and when I pasted them into Livecode they switched from vector to a bitmap format so dont

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
That's just crazy talk! I wonder if other mobile dev apps are running into this? Bob On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: That is one of the problems with resizing controls based only on the size of the screen and not on the resolution of the device and not also changing

Re: LiveCode apps work in Android 4.1 jelly bean?

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
NOOO NOT SPACES Bob On Jul 24, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: It has indeed been complained about before. Not in all caps, though. I will use all caps and spaces if this is not solved soon! =) ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 07/25/2012 06:41 PM, Andrew Henshaw wrote: Ive had a couple of emails from users of my apps that say they look great on a normal Mac, but terrible on the new Macbook Retina. Im guessing this is probably because there are some background images, and when I pasted them into Livecode they

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
I am going to guess that Livecode does not support vector based graphics in the manner you suggest. It would be great if it did because that would alleviate the problems that come with scaling image objects, or objects that use them. It's a HUGE task to implement though, as LC would have to be

Re: in-app purchase customers data

2012-07-25 Thread Kee Nethery
On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:27 AM, paolo mazza wrote: Hi all, I have a question about in-app purchase of Apple.I was told Your server doesn't have to keep track of who has purchased what because Apple does that. Is it true? In particular I need to receive from Apple the email of my customers.

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Richmond
http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Andrew Henshaw
That looks exactly like what I need, thanks! Andy On 25 Jul 2012, at 17:51, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: in-app purchase customers data

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Haworth
Looking at the developer guidelines, it seems you have to program your application to get whatever information you want to collect from the user as part of the transaction. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Kee Nethery k...@kagi.com wrote: On Jul 25,

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Actually the download direction is: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/Eps_Import_V05B.zip Works only with Ilustrator version 7 or minor (v6, v5.5, etc...). More recent Illustrator versions are actually PDF files. Notice that to resize the vector graphics you should use a library like

Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
For those who have gone before me: I have some files that are downloaded from a server and stored on the device. The files will be updated periodically. I don't want to download them repeatedly unless they've changed. Apple says not to store data in the documents folder if it can be

anyone with mountain lion yet?

2012-07-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Hey Folks, Since the last snafu with Android 4.1, I am afraid of upgrading anything. Mountain Lion came out today, anyone here tried it out yet? Is LiveCode still working for iOS and Android development? -- http://www.andregarzia.com -- All We Do Is Code. http://fon.nu -- minimalist url

Re: anyone with mountain lion yet?

2012-07-25 Thread Andrew Henshaw
Yes, I bit the bullet and upgraded my 4 year old mac to Mountain Lion, so far its mostly good. It seems faster than Lion and almost everything is still working. Everything to do with Livecode is fine, the only app I have problems with is Aperture as it wont video clips any more but I guess

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Hmm... Do you mean backed up as in iTunes/iCloud? That would appear to be unnecessary. I think cache is only cleared in low storage situations so it might be appropriate from the users perspective. Otherwise I'd go with documents folder with the do not backup property set. Cheers -- M E R

RE: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread Ralph DiMola
Jacque, I'm storing an SQLite db in the documents folder so the Android and iOS code is the same. The db is static until an update. The update will replace the entire db with new data. There is also 2 other dbs in the doc folder. One db hold the registration info and the other is notes the user

cancelling a load request on iOS?

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
Is it possible to cancel a download initiated with the load command on iOS? According to the dictionary the unload command is only supported on the desktop and I can find anything in the iOS release notes that indicates how you might go about this. Anyone know? Terry... Dr Terry Judd Senior

Re: Importing vector graphics for interface

2012-07-25 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Andy, I found in my hard disk a version named Eps_Import_V05C You could download it from this link: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/Eps_Import_V05C.zip Here is nice tip that could help you, if you need scaling these vector graphics inside a LiveCode stack.

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
I use the cache folder, the assumption being that is fairly unlikely that it will be cleared. Terry... On 26/07/2012, at 05:35 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hmm... Do you mean backed up as in iTunes/iCloud? That would appear to be unnecessary. I think cache is only cleared in low storage

[ANN] EPS Import V05C

2012-07-25 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi All, Download this new version of EPS Import V05C: http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/alejandro/stacks/Eps_Import_V05C.zip Please, read the Help included inside the stack and the text file named readmefirst.txt Here is nice tip that could help you, if you need scaling these vector graphics inside

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Yeah it is crazy. I have had to deal with this in every Obj-c xCode app I've built so far. xCode however has both a system for dealing with @2x size images and with rotating interfaces - but I still have to have multiple views for both iPhone and iPad. -- Tom McGrath III

Re: cancelling a load request on iOS?

2012-07-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Just confirmed that unload is not implemented on android so the dictionary is correct. (the result contains 'not implemented', same for 'the cachedurls') so I need to rethink a few things. Having load without an unload seems a bit nuts to me. no liburlreset or resetall either yet. On Wed, Jul

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
I'm starting to put together a mobile framework to at least handle the mobile/tablet issue. What it does so far is start using any libraries in a specified folder and load either a tablet stack or mobile stack depending on if the max res is = 1024. Until we can work out size I think that's the

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Roger Eller
Phablets... I like it. :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Don't say that too loudly! Next thing you know Apple will release an iPhab! On Jul 25, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Roger Eller wrote: Phablets... I like it. :-) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe,

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Good points. Years ago I created altLayouLib and have used it for work in multiple OS environments. With it you could set the controls layout behavior based upon OS. It read the OS and resized/moved controls based upon MacOS, Win32 or Other. As far as responsive design goes, it perhaps this

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Helps if I proofread before posting.. -- As far as responsive design goes, perhaps a custom layouts per card size approach a proper way to go. -- The square card size should also handle most cases where you want the width of a control to change but not the height. On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:57

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Ok, making this up as i go. We might as well design a system from the start that can handle all 4 android screen densities and used a couple of them as synonyms for the iOS densities. Even though the android densities are ranges I think its reasonable to treat them as absolutes as long as your

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
for now... On Jul 25, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: We might as well design a system from the start that can handle all 4 android screen densities ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Chipp Walters
How does LC determine density? On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Monte Goulding wrote: Ok, making this up as i go. We might as well design a system from the start that can handle all 4 android screen densities and used a couple of them as synonyms for the iOS densities. Even though the android

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Jacque, I'm storing everything in documents-- in fact I have my own cache folder in there as well. Because of my workflow, constantly updating via DropBox, I tend not to 'include' files outside a single stack, and I use the stack to SpitOut on OpenStack different resources, such as template

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Yes, any system we design should handle potential future densities however I'm really not sure if higher densities than retina would be worthwhile. If the human eye can't detect a difference then why not save the processing power and $. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt

Re: cancelling a load request on iOS?

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
On 26/07/2012, at 06:32 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Just confirmed that unload is not implemented on android so the dictionary is correct. (the result contains 'not implemented', same for 'the cachedurls') so I need to rethink a few things. Having load without an unload seems a bit nuts to me.

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
On 26/07/2012, at 8:40 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: How does LC determine density? Good question. If the engine does it then it doesn't provide that info to us. We know density on iOS so we use that to switch between mdpi and xhdpi. On android we can only make an educated guess based on this

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. If the cache is unlikely to get erased very often then I think the simplest thing is to just use that. BTW, Chipp, I wasn't too worried about the file storage not working, I was concerned that Apple would reject the app for storing data in Documents if

Re: cancelling a load request on iOS?

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Terry Judd wrote: On 26/07/2012, at 06:32 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Just confirmed that unload is not implemented on android so the dictionary is correct. (the result contains 'not implemented', same for 'the cachedurls') so I need to rethink a few things.

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
OK Scott, should we continue on list or move off. It might be good to continue on list for a while to see who's keen to be involved. Continuing to think out loud on this. One thing we want to be able to do is work in whatever density we like and then have everything still scale right. So what

Re: cancelling a load request on iOS?

2012-07-25 Thread Mike Bonner
Dictionary says no. Hopefully next update! On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.comwrote: On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Terry Judd wrote: On 26/07/2012, at 06:32 AM, Mike Bonner wrote: Just confirmed that unload is not implemented on android so the

Re: THe debugger is going for a walk???

2012-07-25 Thread Dr. Hawkins
It's even stranger today. I keep seeing a behavior where it honors code breakpoints, but soft breaks seem to send it into the trace . . . Gosh, maybe I should can and sell this :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Scott Rossi
Looking forward, it seems you're right: being able to lay out a stack at a specific resolution would be useful long term. I'm not up to speed on Android, but last I saw, LiveCode wasn't able to detect Android display density. If that's still the case, it would seem to be a problem since how

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Scott- Wednesday, July 25, 2012, 5:42:57 PM, you wrote: Looking forward, it seems you're right: being able to lay out a stack at a specific resolution would be useful long term. I'm not up to speed on Android, but last I saw, LiveCode wasn't able to detect Android display density. If

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
On 26/07/2012, at 10:42 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Looking forward, it seems you're right: being able to lay out a stack at a specific resolution would be useful long term. I'm not up to speed on Android, but last I saw, LiveCode wasn't able to detect Android display density. If that's still

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
On 26/07/2012, at 10:42 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Looking forward, it seems you're right: being able to lay out a stack at a specific resolution would be useful long term. I'm not up to speed on Android, but last I saw, LiveCode wasn't able to detect Android display density. If that's still

Re: THe debugger is going for a walk???

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Haworth
My debugging this afternoon has reminded me of another circumstance where the debugger seems to ignore code and that's if you have a command in your script that doesn't flag an error but is not valid. Here's an example insertObject card, the long ID of card ID pCardID That doesn't cause an

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread ddas
They will notice and they will reject your app. The only way around is to set the extended attribute of your folder in the documents folder to do not back up. I brought up this issue in December. However it seems like the prob has been recently solved by mergext.

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
It's in the engine now. On 26/07/2012, at 12:12 PM, ddas wrote: They will notice and they will reject your app. The only way around is to set the extended attribute of your folder in the documents folder to do not back up. I brought up this issue in December. However it seems like the

Drop Shadow in Text Field

2012-07-25 Thread Randy Hengst
Hi All, When a drop shadow is applied to an opaque field, the shadow is shown around the edge of the field… not the text itself. When a drop shadow is applied to a transparent field, the drop shadow is applied to the text. Is there any way to have a drop shadow on the text for an opaque

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/25/12 9:12 PM, ddas wrote: They will notice and they will reject your app. The only way around is to set the extended attribute of your folder in the documents folder to do not back up. The engine lets us do it by file, which would be fine for my purposes. Just out of curiosity, does

Re: Drop Shadow in Text Field

2012-07-25 Thread Scott Rossi
A graphic effect will usually respect whatever transparency is present in a control. So I think your only option is to have the field be transparent and the dropshadow effect applied to the text, with a graphic or other object behind it. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX

Re: Drop Shadow in Text Field

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
On 26/07/2012, at 12:53 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: A graphic effect will usually respect whatever transparency is present in a control. So I think your only option is to have the field be transparent and the dropshadow effect applied to the text, with a graphic or other object behind it. You

Re: Drop Shadow in Text Field

2012-07-25 Thread Randy Hengst
Thanks Scott, That's kind of what I thought… but, was hoping for a way to assign to the text and the outline of the field. be well, randy - On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: A graphic effect will usually respect whatever transparency is present in a control. So I think

Re: Drop Shadow in Text Field

2012-07-25 Thread Randy Hengst
Well Terry, that's very cool… thanks for the suggestion. be well, randy - On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:06 PM, Terry Judd wrote: On 26/07/2012, at 12:53 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: A graphic effect will usually respect whatever transparency is present in a control. So I think your only option

Re: Storing data on iOS

2012-07-25 Thread ddas
You may just set the attribute of a folder and not bother with individual files. According to apple: Starting in iOS 5.0.1 a new “do not back up” file attribute has been introduced allowing developers to clearly specify which files should be backed up, which files are local caches only and

Re: Preview of Resolution Independent Control library for RevMobile

2012-07-25 Thread Roger Eller
I still like your new word PHABLET - PHones And Bigger, Let Everybody Touch! LOL ~Roger On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: One important thing to consider is inventing a cool non-developer specific acronym and prefix for this thing ;-) My hope is it can handle more than

iOS notification center external added to mergExt

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Hi LiveCoders There's still a few hours left of RunRev's 30% off SUMERSALE so I thought I'd put another external out to make mergExt even more deliciously tempting (sorry Andre's been talking about chee.. woops). Anyway, mergNotify is a great little external that allows you to hook into any

Re: iOS notification center external added to mergExt

2012-07-25 Thread Terry Judd
On 26/07/2012, at 02:51 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi LiveCoders There's still a few hours left of RunRev's 30% off SUMERSALE so I thought I'd put another external out to make mergExt even more deliciously tempting (sorry Andre's been talking about chee.. woops). Anyway, mergNotify is

Re: iOS notification center external added to mergExt

2012-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Woops... make that SUMMERSALE ... it's so cold in Tasmania I'd forgotten how to spell summer ;-) On 26/07/2012, at 2:51 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi LiveCoders There's still a few hours left of RunRev's 30% off SUMERSALE so I thought I'd put another external out to make mergExt even more