Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
I did just now. If you're a conspiracy theorist, these lines, which appear dozens of times, are pretty good: 9/12/12 10:51:46 PMMasterControlProgram connection attempt made. 9/12/12 10:52:25 PMMasterControlProgram ** WE ARE __NOT__ CONNECTED ** I was concerned for a moment until I realized this is from my online backup application. At least, I think it is. Nothing else immediate that I can see, but there's a ton of stuff in there. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Phil Jimmieson wrote: Have you looked into the console logs to see if anything interesting shows up? Sent from my iPad On 13 Sep 2012, at 06:07, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: The Spotlight processes that I read about are mds and mdworker. I haven't changed anything significant lately (that I think is significant) but the system might think otherwise. I just don't know what else to look for. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). What are you looking for in Activity Monitor? mdworker not Spotlight is what you are looking for. Also, you can see the pulsating dot in the Spotlight magnifying glass. Have you changed anything recently? New HD, new External HD, new TimeMachine HD or TimeCapsule. I have TimeMachine and Carbon Copy Cloner backups and if they ever run simultaneously then things can bog down, so I'll pause one. Other than that the worst I've ever had is Spotlight indexing, and it's just as you describe. Good luck. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Scott, I had the same kind of problems on one of my MacBook Pro (i7 2.66 Ghz 4Go RAM OS X 10.6.8) while it never occured on the second one (i5 2.4 Ghz 4 Go RAM OS X 10.7.4). The sole solution i found to stop having its fan running 5500 RPM all over the day, even when the processor was in idle state + avoid random weekly crash panics went to connect and use a 3.5 external hard drive to the laptop and make it the default boot drive. Since this change, the processor temp is back to 47* Celsius with fans at 2000 RPM in idle state and mostly under 65° Celsius / 4500 with about 10 dev and control apps running in the background (LC, iOS simulator, Chrome, CyberDuck, Graphic Converter, etc...). The other way to go should be to send the machine to Applecare and brought a new one in between... HTH, Pierre Le 13 sept. 2012 à 07:53, Kay C Lan a écrit : On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:10 PM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: Scott, I had something like this - and it turned out to be a half working hard drive. You could use xBench http://xbench.com/ if you don't have Drive Genius to test your HD speeds. Should be fairly obvious if they are not working at normal speed. I'll also aske the obvious, no HD above 90% full? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Scott, Until recently I was working on a Mac Mini with a very similar setup and very similar issues. I managed to give it a new lease of life for a while, by backing up pretty much all my files elsewhere and then deleting them from the mini - clean desktop, clean downloads, clean documents… I also ran a utility that went through application files and folders deleting unnecessary fat like instructions in chinese or svengali, which lets face it I hardly ever need. She came back to life, more or less. However, she was still struggling, basically, with modern life. New applications were overwhelming her. I came to the conclusion that essentially she was tired, and it was time for a nice shiny new laptop. Problem solved. Regards, Heather On 13 Sep 2012, at 07:21, Scott Rossi wrote: I did just now. If you're a conspiracy theorist, these lines, which appear dozens of times, are pretty good: 9/12/12 10:51:46 PMMasterControlProgram connection attempt made. 9/12/12 10:52:25 PMMasterControlProgram ** WE ARE __NOT__ CONNECTED ** I was concerned for a moment until I realized this is from my online backup application. At least, I think it is. Nothing else immediate that I can see, but there's a ton of stuff in there. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design Recently, Phil Jimmieson wrote: Have you looked into the console logs to see if anything interesting shows up? Sent from my iPad On 13 Sep 2012, at 06:07, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: The Spotlight processes that I read about are mds and mdworker. I haven't changed anything significant lately (that I think is significant) but the system might think otherwise. I just don't know what else to look for. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). What are you looking for in Activity Monitor? mdworker not Spotlight is what you are looking for. Also, you can see the pulsating dot in the Spotlight magnifying glass. Have you changed anything recently? New HD, new External HD, new TimeMachine HD or TimeCapsule. I have TimeMachine and Carbon Copy Cloner backups and if they ever run simultaneously then things can bog down, so I'll pause one. Other than that the worst I've ever had is Spotlight indexing, and it's just as you describe. Good luck. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode Heather Nagey Customer Services Manager http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode - Unleash Your Killer App ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
I'll second the heat check. If your mini is like mine it doesn't take much to push it up into the area of cpu throttling. This is a 2011 model and currently I have it on a laptop cooler with the bottom of the case nudged open. Made a huge difference. Also installed fanspeed and adjusted parameters so that the fan ramps up earlier and harder. Also, you mentioned using activity monitor to check cpu usage, have you checked ram usage? Large amounts of swapping can cause beach ball behavior. Look to see how may page ins have occurred as well as which processes are eating the most mem. THough if no page-ins have occurred, swapping isn't the problem. (page outs don't matter, that just indicates things being shoved into memory) Finally, yep, could be a drive flaking out. Which would be even more obvious when combined with page-ins. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Drives seem to fail more slowly these days when they do - they use to 'just go' but now with big buffers and error correction, the drives just try to jam the data over and over until they get it without errors - or eventually not. However most of the drives of today seem really reliable - more so than even 4 years ago. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the heat check. If your mini is like mine it doesn't take much to push it up into the area of cpu throttling. This is a 2011 model and currently I have it on a laptop cooler with the bottom of the case nudged open. Made a huge difference. Also installed fanspeed and adjusted parameters so that the fan ramps up earlier and harder. Also, you mentioned using activity monitor to check cpu usage, have you checked ram usage? Large amounts of swapping can cause beach ball behavior. Look to see how may page ins have occurred as well as which processes are eating the most mem. THough if no page-ins have occurred, swapping isn't the problem. (page outs don't matter, that just indicates things being shoved into memory) Finally, yep, could be a drive flaking out. Which would be even more obvious when combined with page-ins. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/13/2012 12:03 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: heh heh a little like, Ask 10 psychiatrists for a diagnosis and you will get 20 opinions. Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm schizophrenic, and so am I. On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:36 PM, François Chaplais wrote: Put three lawyers in a room and they will go out with five opinions. Le 12 sept. 2012 à 22:33, Bob Sneidar a écrit : I think Lawyers are really good at what they do, because they have perfected the skill of ignoring evidence to the contrary. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:12 AM, François Chaplais wrote: there is also this one: There are two kinds of lawyers: those who know the law, and those who know the judge. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
If you have external drives, you may check their power adapter. One of mine got a too old one day; I checked it was responsible by swapping it with another adapter. So I ordered another power adapter and my data remained on the disk. Best François Le 13 sept. 2012 à 11:09, stephen barncard a écrit : Drives seem to fail more slowly these days when they do - they use to 'just go' but now with big buffers and error correction, the drives just try to jam the data over and over until they get it without errors - or eventually not. However most of the drives of today seem really reliable - more so than even 4 years ago. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/13/2012 02:54 AM, Peter W A Wood wrote: Richmond On 12 Sep 2012, at 23:03, Richmond wrote: A bicycle cannot be used to brew coffee, and I am absolutely sure that anybody claiming that the fact that their bike cannot be used as a coffee-maker is in some way unfair would be laughed out of court. Are you really absolutely sure? The company that I used to work for had many clients in the US insurance business. One of my colleagues told me of a legal case his client lost, they were sued by somebody who had an accident when they used a lawnmower to cut a hedge. The instructions that came with the lawn mower did not sufficiently clearly state that it couldn't be used as a hedge trimmer. Did your bicycle come with a warning not to use it to make coffee? I am glad I don't live in the USA. Peter ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] EULA and legality
On 09/13/2012 12:03 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: heh heh a little like, Ask 10 psychiatrists for a diagnosis and you will get 20 opinions. Roses are red, violets are blue, I'm schizophrenic, and so am I. Now get on your bike and make me some coffee, Richmond :-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
how to test in-app purchase
Hi all, I have 2 questions about in-app purchase with LiveCode: First, how can I test the in-app purchase in my iOS app before uploading my application to the app store? I created a test user... but I can not understand how can I test the in-app purchase . Then, the in-app purchase commands in LiveCode can be used also for Non-Renewing purchases? Following the lesson I came up with this command: mobilePurchaseCreate it.COMPANY_NAME.ProductID.Non-Renewing Is it correct? Thanks, Paolo Mazza ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Scott, your hard drive is failing. What happens is, when the OS detects a bad block or sector on the hard drive, there are routines in place to attempt to move the data to another location. This is a very high priority system event, even higher than mouse clicks. You will not be able to interact with anything while this is going on. It is recurring because the attempt has failed. You need to back up what you can, I recommend a great utility called Chronosync which has a feature to ignore errors, and then replace the drive. Carbon Copy Cloner is also a good choice even though it is paid software, because it will make a full bootable backup to another drive, and can make scheduled new and changed backups with old file archiving. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi List: Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in the Finder = beachball; launch an application = beachball; create a new email message = beachball. I've used Disk Utility to repair the disk and permissions (nothing major appeared to be found). I've run a test on RAM using MemTest, with apparently no problems found. I've been watching Activity Monitor to see if there's anything sucking up processor use -- nothing appears to be out of the ordinary (that I know of). I'm now trying an app called Onyx to see if it will find anything worth addressing. Short of reinstalling the system (days worth of labor), I'm at a loss for what else to try. The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). Not sure if this means anything but apparently I can't reset PRAM on the system (Intel Mac Mini). I've tried several times with multiple keyboards, without success. I believe with Lion and above maybe this is supposed to be unnecessary, but it's supposed to work with Snow Leopard and earlier, yes? Anybody have any ideas for something else to look for? I know some of you do more low level tinkering than I. Restarts help for a while, but I can only restart the system so many times... Thanks for any suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
If spotlight is failing it is because it has encountered bad blocks in the indexing process, and the attempt to relocate the data has failed. Read my prior post. I'm really good at this stuff. It's what I do for a living. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: The Spotlight processes that I read about are mds and mdworker. I haven't changed anything significant lately (that I think is significant) but the system might think otherwise. I just don't know what else to look for. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). What are you looking for in Activity Monitor? mdworker not Spotlight is what you are looking for. Also, you can see the pulsating dot in the Spotlight magnifying glass. Have you changed anything recently? New HD, new External HD, new TimeMachine HD or TimeCapsule. I have TimeMachine and Carbon Copy Cloner backups and if they ever run simultaneously then things can bog down, so I'll pause one. Other than that the worst I've ever had is Spotlight indexing, and it's just as you describe. Good luck. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Oops, meant page-outs. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: I'll second the heat check. If your mini is like mine it doesn't take much to push it up into the area of cpu throttling. This is a 2011 model and currently I have it on a laptop cooler with the bottom of the case nudged open. Made a huge difference. Also installed fanspeed and adjusted parameters so that the fan ramps up earlier and harder. Also, you mentioned using activity monitor to check cpu usage, have you checked ram usage? Large amounts of swapping can cause beach ball behavior. Look to see how may page ins have occurred as well as which processes are eating the most mem. THough if no page-ins have occurred, swapping isn't the problem. (page outs don't matter, that just indicates things being shoved into memory) Finally, yep, could be a drive flaking out. Which would be even more obvious when combined with page-ins. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
Scott, From my own experience I would totally agree with Bob. I'm also pretty sure you can install a copy of your OS on a USB memory stick, you may need a reasonable size stick, but they are not too expensive now and it should help you determine where the error lies, you'll also see how fast the OS boots and runs with a solid state drive too. Some info here: http://macs.about.com/od/diyguidesprojects/ss/usbflash_4.htm I would also check Activity Monitor CPU tab, view Active Processes, sort by %CPU to see what is taking most CPU cycles, some apps can make your Mac go crazy, Adobe updater is my pet hate. I use TechTool Pro ProToGo to keep my Macs running healthy and it certainly helped last time I had this issue, hope you resolve it soon. Paul On 2012-09-13, at 8:52 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Scott, your hard drive is failing. What happens is, when the OS detects a bad block or sector on the hard drive, there are routines in place to attempt to move the data to another location. This is a very high priority system event, even higher than mouse clicks. You will not be able to interact with anything while this is going on. It is recurring because the attempt has failed. You need to back up what you can, I recommend a great utility called Chronosync which has a feature to ignore errors, and then replace the drive. Carbon Copy Cloner is also a good choice even though it is paid software, because it will make a full bootable backup to another drive, and can make scheduled new and changed backups with old file archiving. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi List: Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in the Finder = beachball; launch an application = beachball; create a new email message = beachball. I've used Disk Utility to repair the disk and permissions (nothing major appeared to be found). I've run a test on RAM using MemTest, with apparently no problems found. I've been watching Activity Monitor to see if there's anything sucking up processor use -- nothing appears to be out of the ordinary (that I know of). I'm now trying an app called Onyx to see if it will find anything worth addressing. Short of reinstalling the system (days worth of labor), I'm at a loss for what else to try. The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). Not sure if this means anything but apparently I can't reset PRAM on the system (Intel Mac Mini). I've tried several times with multiple keyboards, without success. I believe with Lion and above maybe this is supposed to be unnecessary, but it's supposed to work with Snow Leopard and earlier, yes? Anybody have any ideas for something else to look for? I know some of you do more low level tinkering than I. Restarts help for a while, but I can only restart the system so many times... Thanks for any suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
About a year ago the hard drive on my mac mini failed. I would be using the computer and all of a sudden things would slow down for a little bit and then run normal again. I can't remember if there was a beachball showing but it might have been. You should back up your drive now if you haven't already done so. I found a Mac Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex external usb drive on ebay pretty cheap and have my OS X running from it without any problems. You can get one with 500 GB on ebay for around $40-$65. As others have said back up your info. -=JB=- On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Scott, your hard drive is failing. What happens is, when the OS detects a bad block or sector on the hard drive, there are routines in place to attempt to move the data to another location. This is a very high priority system event, even higher than mouse clicks. You will not be able to interact with anything while this is going on. It is recurring because the attempt has failed. You need to back up what you can, I recommend a great utility called Chronosync which has a feature to ignore errors, and then replace the drive. Carbon Copy Cloner is also a good choice even though it is paid software, because it will make a full bootable backup to another drive, and can make scheduled new and changed backups with old file archiving. Bob On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi List: Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in the Finder = beachball; launch an application = beachball; create a new email message = beachball. I've used Disk Utility to repair the disk and permissions (nothing major appeared to be found). I've run a test on RAM using MemTest, with apparently no problems found. I've been watching Activity Monitor to see if there's anything sucking up processor use -- nothing appears to be out of the ordinary (that I know of). I'm now trying an app called Onyx to see if it will find anything worth addressing. Short of reinstalling the system (days worth of labor), I'm at a loss for what else to try. The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). Not sure if this means anything but apparently I can't reset PRAM on the system (Intel Mac Mini). I've tried several times with multiple keyboards, without success. I believe with Lion and above maybe this is supposed to be unnecessary, but it's supposed to work with Snow Leopard and earlier, yes? Anybody have any ideas for something else to look for? I know some of you do more low level tinkering than I. Restarts help for a while, but I can only restart the system so many times... Thanks for any suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
I agree with Bob and Stephen. This looks like a failing drive. I just had similar symptoms happen on a server (yikes!) with a failing drive that was external, connected via FireWire. It isn't even necessarily trouble with an internal drive. I'm also a fan of Carbon Copy Cloner (bombich.com). $40 well spent. Cloning to a FW drive and seeing if it runs OK there is a lot less hassle than reinstalling - and then you have a good backup too! .Jerry On Sep 13, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Scott, your hard drive is failing. What happens is, when the OS detects a bad block or sector on the hard drive, there are routines in place to attempt to move the data to another location. This is a very high priority system event, even higher than mouse clicks. You will not be able to interact with anything while this is going on. It is recurring because the attempt has failed. You need to back up what you can, I recommend a great utility called Chronosync which has a feature to ignore errors, and then replace the drive. Carbon Copy Cloner is also a good choice even though it is paid software, because it will make a full bootable backup to another drive, and can make scheduled new and changed backups with old file archiving. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: has anyone worked on in-app purchase through google?
Finally getting back to this . . . On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:50 AM, Ken Corey k...@kencorey.com wrote: That said, the integration with ejunkie was painless. The trickiest part was figuring out what the app should do upon registration. It looks useful and economical, but . . . it appears to be for using off of a web page. I'm trying to get it to purchase through google wallet from within a livecode standalone. Or did I miss something? -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
On 09/13/2012 08:48 PM, -=JB=- wrote: About a year ago the hard drive on my mac mini failed. I would be using the computer and all of a sudden things would slow down for a little bit and then run normal again. I can't remember if there was a beachball showing but it might have been. You should back up your drive now if you haven't already done so. I found a Mac Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex external usb drive on ebay pretty cheap and have my OS X running from it without any problems. You can get one with 500 GB on ebay for around $40-$65. Over here in Bulgaria, one can buy containers for both PATA and SATA disks for about 10 Euros. These are really very useful as one put any old hard disk one happens to have lying around in one of them, and Kaboom, rather like Batman, one has an instant backup solution. If you are really low like me you can always carry a screwdriver set in you pocket, so when you just happen to see an old computer parked by a dustbin you can extract the hard-disk (which in my experience is 9 out of 10 times functional) and put it to good use. As others have said back up your info. -=JB=- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone?
After many recent posts, I'm starting to wonder: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone? Several messages have suggested, if I'm reading them write, that the main stack is compiled, while the others, even if password protected, are interpreted at runtime. Am I getting that right? And if so, what is the performance hit? So should all of the more intensive work be moved into routines in the main stack? -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions 22
-- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:53:37 -0700 From: Bob Sneidar b...@twft.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions Message-ID: e6ae58af-e925-49d7-853e-1420d6524...@twft.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If spotlight is failing it is because it has encountered bad blocks in the indexing process, and the attempt to relocate the data has failed. Read my prior post. I'm really good at this stuff. It's what I do for a living. Bob Bob, First, let me say, I enjoy people who are good at what they do, and are not afraid to say so. (I just wish you were doing what you do in my neighborhood.) Second, I have many of the symptoms discussed earlier on this topic. But I have one more very sophisticated diagnostic test I perform. I listen. Every so often, the HD on my Mac Mini squeaks for a few minutes. That can't be good. Generally things are fine. So I assume the contents of my existing internal drive are ok. So, what would you recommend? If I were to create a Carbon Copy Clone on an external drive and, in the future, always boot from that external copy, would there be a performance hit? Jim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone?
Dr. Hawkins wrote: After many recent posts, I'm starting to wonder: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone? Several messages have suggested, if I'm reading them write, that the main stack is compiled, while the others, even if password protected, are interpreted at runtime. Am I getting that right? And if so, what is the performance hit? So should all of the more intensive work be moved into routines in the main stack? No difference between mainstack made into an app and any other stack files used for code. And AFAIK no difference in execution speed between password-protected and non-protected scripts, though I haven't measured it in many years. In the modern world with so many different types of compilers, determining exactly what compile means can be tricky. My understanding of what LiveCode does is that it uses a two-pass compilation method, similar to many other high-level languages, in which a script is tokenized into a highly efficient bytecode format at runtime as objects are unpacked, and that bytecode is then run through the engine during execution. Exceptions to this include do, send, call, and dispatch, which must be tokenized on the fly since they're effectively working with dynamic strings, which explains why those run so much slower than alternatives. If anyone has more details beyond this I'd love to hear them. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone?
The answer lies in the terminology I think. If you have a stack file that contains a main stack and several substacks, then all of them are compiled into the standalone. On the other hand, if you are using the so called splash screen approach that has one stack file with a main stack that then launches another stack file, then the standalone will only include the splash screen stack and the other stacks will not be compiled. If you are on a Mac, you can verify this by right clicking your standalone in the Finder and selecting Show Package Contents and looking at the contents of the MacOS folder. The main usage for the splash screen approach seems to be that you can store data in the stacks in the other stack file, whereas you cannot store data in a stack within a standalone. If I remember correctly, you are using an SQL database so I'd guess you probably aren't using the splash screen approach. The other thing to remember is that, if your stacks are password protected, then not only can people not access the scripts without the password but many other things are encrypted (e.g. custom properties). You can still see them OK in the IDE but unless your customers own a copy of Livecode, it will be very hard for them to find out what is stored in them. Hope that helps Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote: After many recent posts, I'm starting to wonder: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone? Several messages have suggested, if I'm reading them write, that the main stack is compiled, while the others, even if password protected, are interpreted at runtime. Am I getting that right? And if so, what is the performance hit? So should all of the more intensive work be moved into routines in the main stack? -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Skanky ways to play MP3 on Windows XP
I'm having trouble using the player object on Windows XP to play audio. MP3 files play in the Windows Media Player; WAV files play in LiveCode if I import them as audioclips. (MP3 files of course have never worked as imported audioclips.). But using the player object, on either WAV or MP3 files, fails. (I have set dontUseQT to true.) I'm pursuing this with RunRev support, but I'm running out of time. Are there any skanky ways, using shell commands or similar, to play MP3 files on Windows? Alternative question: are there any compressed formats that work with audioclips? I don't mind that the audioclip is uncompressed, because I can import them on the fly, play the audioclip, then delete it; but I am likely to run out of disk space (it's all on compact flash) if I have to have all the audio as uncompressed WAV. TIA, Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Sending an email with a file attachment
I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT: Supercomputer built from Raspberry Pis and Lego
http://boingboing.net/2012/09/13/supercomputer-built-from-raspb.html Professor Cox adds: “The first test we ran – well obviously we calculated Pi on the Raspberry Pi using MPI, which is a well-known first test for any new supercomputer.” No further comment because mine's *still* backordered. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Peter, Sarah Reichelt´s smtp library can help. http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Regards, -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 21:44 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
I mentioned temperature. There are some temperature monitor applications out there. Some work. Somebody mentioned thrashing. I think that is likely, too. Even more likely. Perhaps most people do not upgrade the RAM in their mac minis, but do upgrade systems and tools and work on bigger and bigger documents. Also, some beta products might have memory leaks. So, you could be always swapping out memory. Your LiveCode scripts can accumulate memory usage, too. If your cool utility stack is repeatedly putting backup copies of big images into an array, then those can add up. This is consistent with the bit of improvement after a restart. (And a temperature problem is consistent with an improvement after a shutdown for lunch.) Look at RAM usage. Dar On Sep 12, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: Hi List: Apologies for posting something other than a EULA opinion, but I'm wondering if someone might have some experience with an OS X system that is throwing random beachballs all over the place (10.6.8). Scroll a list of files in the Finder = beachball; launch an application = beachball; create a new email message = beachball. I've used Disk Utility to repair the disk and permissions (nothing major appeared to be found). I've run a test on RAM using MemTest, with apparently no problems found. I've been watching Activity Monitor to see if there's anything sucking up processor use -- nothing appears to be out of the ordinary (that I know of). I'm now trying an app called Onyx to see if it will find anything worth addressing. Short of reinstalling the system (days worth of labor), I'm at a loss for what else to try. The one thing I found online is that the Spotlight indexing process can sometimes go crazy and intermittently bog down the processor -- Onyx supposedly allows you to disable this but I'm not certain this is the problem (not a regular culprit in Activity Monitor). Not sure if this means anything but apparently I can't reset PRAM on the system (Intel Mac Mini). I've tried several times with multiple keyboards, without success. I believe with Lion and above maybe this is supposed to be unnecessary, but it's supposed to work with Snow Leopard and earlier, yes? Anybody have any ideas for something else to look for? I know some of you do more low level tinkering than I. Restarts help for a while, but I can only restart the system so many times... Thanks for any suggestions. Best Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Skanky ways to play MP3 on Windows XP
Greetings Ben, I'm using Vista to play an mp3 file in the same folder as my stack. On our other computer we used to have XP, but now have Windows 7. I didn't remember having any problem play mp3's from XP, but don't think I have a stack for that scenario. If you want the Vista script I can send it along. Mike --- On Thu, 9/13/12, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: From: Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com Subject: Skanky ways to play MP3 on Windows XP To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Thursday, September 13, 2012, 2:41 PM I'm having trouble using the player object on Windows XP to play audio. MP3 files play in the Windows Media Player; WAV files play in LiveCode if I import them as audioclips. (MP3 files of course have never worked as imported audioclips.). But using the player object, on either WAV or MP3 files, fails. (I have set dontUseQT to true.) I'm pursuing this with RunRev support, but I'm running out of time. Are there any skanky ways, using shell commands or similar, to play MP3 files on Windows? Alternative question: are there any compressed formats that work with audioclips? I don't mind that the audioclip is uncompressed, because I can import them on the fly, play the audioclip, then delete it; but I am likely to run out of disk space (it's all on compact flash) if I have to have all the audio as uncompressed WAV. TIA, Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to test in-app purchase
You just log out of the store on your phone, and then re-log in using your test account (in settings) You then go to your app, and purchase the in-app purchase using your test account. As its in the list, it will let you do it. If it doesnt work, give it 24 hours and try again. It seems to take anything up to 24 hours for new test accounts, and in app purchases to become available and work together. On 13 Sep 2012, at 15:41, paolo mazza mazzapaoloit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have 2 questions about in-app purchase with LiveCode: First, how can I test the in-app purchase in my iOS app before uploading my application to the app store? I created a test user... but I can not understand how can I test the in-app purchase . Then, the in-app purchase commands in LiveCode can be used also for Non-Renewing purchases? Following the lesson I came up with this command: mobilePurchaseCreate it.COMPANY_NAME.ProductID.Non-Renewing Is it correct? Thanks, Paolo Mazza ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Thanks Matthias, I'll take a look. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Peter, Sarah Reichelt´s smtp library can help. http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Regards, -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 21:44 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Looks like that won't help. The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms :-) Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Peter, Sarah Reichelt´s smtp library can help. http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Regards, -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 21:44 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions 22
Hi Jim. I didn't mean to imply I knew more, as I can see that may be how my post looked. I say that to give people confidence in following my IT advice. Sorry if it sounded like I was being condescending. That being said, the internal SATA interface is always going to be faster that an external USB or even a firewire interface. Even an external eSata may be slower, because you are going through a translation interface, but it probably won't be noticeable, whereas a firewire or usb interface will probably be quite noticeable. I have not used USB 3 yet, but my sense is that an internal PATA drive is always going to be the fastest, all other things being equal. What I would do is create the clone, then put the cloned drive into the device. Use the newer drive as the production drive. At that point, you can reformat the old drive, using the Write Zero's option which is the only way for the Disk Utility to lock out bad blocks or sectors, and then if you want, you can use that as your CCC image backup. It doesn't hurt to take advantage of iCloud or some other cloud based service either, or perhaps using a Time Machine backup. I use TM, but restores can be a little tricky, and they are not bootable. A CCC image is. In the event of a complete production drive failure, you can still boot into the spare drive and meet your deadlines. Bob On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Jim Hurley wrote: If spotlight is failing it is because it has encountered bad blocks in the indexing process, and the attempt to relocate the data has failed. Read my prior post. I'm really good at this stuff. It's what I do for a living. Bob Bob, First, let me say, I enjoy people who are good at what they do, and are not afraid to say so. (I just wish you were doing what you do in my neighborhood.) Second, I have many of the symptoms discussed earlier on this topic. But I have one more very sophisticated diagnostic test I perform. I listen. Every so often, the HD on my Mac Mini squeaks for a few minutes. That can't be good. Generally things are fine. So I assume the contents of my existing internal drive are ok. So, what would you recommend? If I were to create a Carbon Copy Clone on an external drive and, in the future, always boot from that external copy, would there be a performance hit? Jim ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone?
I would only add that the mainstack is not editable, and seems to be incorporated into the app itself, whereas substacks (with the option to keep substacks separate option checked in the Standalone Apps settings) and stack files are individual files located in a folder in the app bundle on a Mac, and in a folder in the program folder on Windows. Not sure about Linux. The Mac bundle DOES contain a file named the same as the mainstack, but without the .livecode extension. If I add the extension, and then try to open the file as a stack, Livecode complains it is not a stack, showing that the mainstack is actually not simply included in the bundle, but is incorporated into a unix executable, which I believe is the runtime engine glued together with the mainstack. If you need further confusion and obfuscation I will be glad to assist! ;-) Bob On Sep 13, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dr. Hawkins wrote: After many recent posts, I'm starting to wonder: what does and doesn't get complied in a standalone? Several messages have suggested, if I'm reading them write, that the main stack is compiled, while the others, even if password protected, are interpreted at runtime. Am I getting that right? And if so, what is the performance hit? So should all of the more intensive work be moved into routines in the main stack? No difference between mainstack made into an app and any other stack files used for code. And AFAIK no difference in execution speed between password-protected and non-protected scripts, though I haven't measured it in many years. In the modern world with so many different types of compilers, determining exactly what compile means can be tricky. My understanding of what LiveCode does is that it uses a two-pass compilation method, similar to many other high-level languages, in which a script is tokenized into a highly efficient bytecode format at runtime as objects are unpacked, and that bytecode is then run through the engine during execution. Exceptions to this include do, send, call, and dispatch, which must be tokenized on the fly since they're effectively working with dynamic strings, which explains why those run so much slower than alternatives. If anyone has more details beyond this I'd love to hear them. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Peter, you could try to use the smtp server which is responsible for your emailaddress. Your server normally will accept emails for your emailaddress. I write normally, because there are cases where this will not work. For example if your smtp server uses reverse dns to check the sender. Another option would be to let your app post that data to a php or livecodeserver script, which then does the sending. But wouldn´t it be better to let the user send the email manually? You could let your app put the desired data into the clipboard and let revmail open the email editor. You could then instruct the user to paste the content of the clipboard into the editor window. i, for one would love to know when a software is sending data or is phoning home. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 23:21 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: Looks like that won't help. The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms :-) Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Peter, Sarah Reichelt´s smtp library can help. http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Regards, -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 21:44 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Am 14.09.2012 um 00:14 schrieb Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de: Your server normally will accept emails for your emailaddress. Of course your server accept email to your address. It was meant to be Your server normally will accept emails to your address without authentication. Regards, MAtthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
On 09/13/2012 04:21 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms:-) Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com You can expect unexpected problems using either SMTP or using revMail. Port blocking may require the use of nonstandard ports for SMTP and not everyone will have a desktop email client set up. You could use an SMTP relay service and provide the address and credentials yourself. Some SMTP relay services allow you to use non-standard ports. Some of them are quite inexpensive for low volume use, so that could help cover some scenarios if you're really determined to use SMTP. The server side script solution is far less problematic. You could also look into a script that stores the info in a database and you collect it manually. Good Luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Can you use On-Rev for mail sending? On Sep 13, 2012, at 3:38 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 09/13/2012 04:21 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms:-) Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com You can expect unexpected problems using either SMTP or using revMail. Port blocking may require the use of nonstandard ports for SMTP and not everyone will have a desktop email client set up. You could use an SMTP relay service and provide the address and credentials yourself. Some SMTP relay services allow you to use non-standard ports. Some of them are quite inexpensive for low volume use, so that could help cover some scenarios if you're really determined to use SMTP. The server side script solution is far less problematic. You could also look into a script that stores the info in a database and you collect it manually. Good Luck, Warren ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
All good ideas. Also, I'm not sending emails invisibly. The option to email support gathers all the environment info and supplies it to revMail as the message with a few blank lines at the top for the user to give details of the problem. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Peter, you could try to use the smtp server which is responsible for your emailaddress. Your server normally will accept emails for your emailaddress. I write normally, because there are cases where this will not work. For example if your smtp server uses reverse dns to check the sender. Another option would be to let your app post that data to a php or livecodeserver script, which then does the sending. But wouldn´t it be better to let the user send the email manually? You could let your app put the desired data into the clipboard and let revmail open the email editor. You could then instruct the user to paste the content of the clipboard into the editor window. i, for one would love to know when a software is sending data or is phoning home. Regards, Matthias -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 23:21 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: Looks like that won't help. The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms :-) Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Matthias Rebbe matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Peter, Sarah Reichelt´s smtp library can help. http://www.troz.net/rev/index.irev?category=Library#stacks Regards, -- Matthias Rebbe matthias (at) rebbe.tk Tel: +49.5741.31 -- Life is too short for boring code Am 13.09.2012 um 21:44 schrieb Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com: I notice that revMail does not have a way to attach a file to the email it creates. Is there perhaps a plugin or library that will provide that functionality? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Sending an email with a file attachment
Thanks Warren. I'm beginning to think Matthias' idea of putting the environment data on the clipboard and asking the user to paste it into the email client of his/her choice may be the easiest and safest way to do this. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Warren Samples war...@warrensweb.uswrote: On 09/13/2012 04:21 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: The purpose for this is for a user of my software to send an email to support and to automatically attach a file to the email that contains information about the user's environment. Sarah's stack requires the name of the SMTP server and since that will be different on each user's machine and I don't know in advance what it is, her stack won't help me unfortunately. Any other suggestions? I can embed the information in the body of the email instead of in an attachment so not hugely important. Or I could just rewrite my app to run on iPhone/Android, then I could use the commands provided by LC for those platforms:-) Pete lcSQL Softwarehttp://www.lcsql.com You can expect unexpected problems using either SMTP or using revMail. Port blocking may require the use of nonstandard ports for SMTP and not everyone will have a desktop email client set up. You could use an SMTP relay service and provide the address and credentials yourself. Some SMTP relay services allow you to use non-standard ports. Some of them are quite inexpensive for low volume use, so that could help cover some scenarios if you're really determined to use SMTP. The server side script solution is far less problematic. You could also look into a script that stores the info in a database and you collect it manually. Good Luck, Warren __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting rid of a stack password
The reversion to password protected happens the next time I run Livecode and load the stack, not loading it again in the same run of livecode. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: On 9/13/12 2:40 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I have a script I use to prepare a stack for release. It sets a password on some of the stacks in the stack file and then copies the stack file to a release folder. All fine so far. After the copy, I then attempt to get rid of the password so I don't have to mess with it for development purposes. The code I use is: set the passkey of stack xyz to password set the password of stack xyz to empty Then I save the stack file. Next time I open the stack file, the password protection is still there. I'm obviously missing something and hoping someone can tell me what it is. That's how it's done. Is the destroystack set to true? If not, remove it from memory before re-opening. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com __**_ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/**mailman/listinfo/use-livecodehttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Paul Hibbert l...@pbh.on-rev.com wrote: I'm also pretty sure you can install a copy of your OS on a USB memory stick, you may need a reasonable size stick, but they are not too expensive now and it should help you determine where the error lies, you'll also see how fast the OS boots and runs with a solid state drive too. Whilst the option to use a thumb drive might work for you, the suggestion that it will be fast is completely erroneous. USB memory sticks are NOT Solid State Drives and are not only slower, but slower than mechanical drives. http://www.tomsguide.com/us/USB-Drives-Corsair-Patriot,review-1337.html My own benchmarking* of a SanDisk 32 GB was an average of 11MB/s read speed. Even the above articles 20MB/s read speeds is nothing to write home about. I've benchmarked* old 40GB 5400rpm 2.5 drives via USB 2.0 that achieve 28MB/s. Modern (1+ TB) 7200 rpm external drives average 64MB/s via FW800 and 84MB/s via an ExpressCard SATA adapter. Via USB 2.0 I still only get 28 MB/s so this may be a limit of USB 2.0, or it may be the external HD case I was using. My experience of using a thumb drive as a boot disc is like using a DVD. Slow as molasses. If you've got one lying around doing nothing, OK it might be useful, but don't waste your money buying one for this purpose, put it towards a fast replacement HD. * using DriveGenius 2 or 3. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] Looking For OS X Troubleshooting Suggestions 22
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.netwrote: But I have one more very sophisticated diagnostic test I perform. I listen. Every so often, the HD on my Mac Mini squeaks for a few minutes. That can't be good. Are you sure it's the HD, that would be very very unusual. What about the fan or DVD drive (if it isn't the latest Mac Mini? The fan might squeak at certain rpm which would equate to certain tempertures. I think smcFanControl will work in an Intel Mac Mini and show you internal temps and fan rpm. http://www.eidac.de/ If you are convinced it's the HD then I completely agree with Bob; it's time to make a clone and buy a new bigger and faster replacement, before you lose the drive. Highly recommend: http://www.macsales.com/ Buy a complete external kit. Use it to clone your old internal onto the new external. The move the new HD into your Mac Mini. Then you can put the old HD into the external case and run programs like DriveGenius to see if there are bad blocks or something else that might be causing the squeaks. Don't do this before you've cloned your drive, the last thing you want is the drive to fail during testing but before you've cloned. At worst, if it can't be cured, you can always use it as an emergency boot drive. I have an old 40GB drive I pulled out of a G3 PB that has a pristine copy of SnoLeo on it + DriveGenius. Every now and then I start off it and run software update to make sure everything is up-to-date. Very rarely I actually start off it so I can do some serious Disc maintenance on the internal drive of my MBP. Note, this drive is NOT used for backups, it doesn't have anything essential on it, so when it does bite the dust it's no great lose. In the mean time it's got something on it that can be a huge time saver. As for performance hit, see my previous post; from fastest to slowest: 1) Internal HD External 2) eSata 3) FW800 4) FW400 5) USB 2.0 HD 6) USB 2.0 thumb drive 7) DVD install disc I don't have USB 3.0 or Thunderbolt cases but I would expect both of those to sit somewhere around eSATA, but still below an Internal HD. HTH ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
