Re: Naive question 5978 + 1

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 24/07/14 23:51, stephen barncard wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for quick and comprehensible answer! It would be quite a good thing if that were explicitly explained somewhere, The Dictionary, perhaps? years ago, there was a

Re: [OT] Pervasive / Btrieve Database

2014-07-25 Thread Thierry Douez
Hi Skip, If you are adventurous, here is a Perl module to do the job: http://search.cpan.org/~sgoeldner/BTRIEVE-FileIO-0.05/FileIO.pm Regards, Thierry Thierry Douez - http://sunny-tdz.com Maker of sunnYperl - sunnYmidi - sunnYmage 2014-07-25

Re: Naive question 5978 + 1

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 24/07/14 23:51, stephen barncard wrote: snip years ago, there was a Datagrid type control for REV (before the actual Datagrid was possible through changes in the engine). snip The datagrid we all know and love (possibly 'lurve' might be better here) was introduced in version 3.5.0.

Naive question 5978 + 1

2014-07-25 Thread Peter W A Wood
Richmond That's probably because it was a Field with the Table properties set. I found that out by taking a look at Bernd's stack which was referred to earlier. Regards Peter On 25 Jul 2014, at 16:22, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/07/14 23:51, stephen barncard wrote:

Re: [ANN] Emulated button with gradient

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Graham, Once in a while, Apple filters out my (and others') e-mails without returning an error message. I've heard that people who send an e-mail to me first, are able to receive my replied on their Apple account, but I don't know if that's true. Apparently, it works now. -- Best

Re: Naive question 5978 + 1

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 14:03, Peter W A Wood wrote: Richmond That's probably because it was a Field with the Table properties set. I found that out by taking a look at Bernd's stack which was referred to earlier. Regards Peter Well that is very much still a feature, and I'm not going to bother

[ANN] Emulated button with gradient (2)

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi everyone, After I got some feedback, I decided to create another version of the emulated button. This button is 24 pixels high instead of 28 pixels. It is available to everyone who has made a donation in the past year. You can find it here http://qery.us/9w8 I didn't add a version number

Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread hh
This is my first speech here, it's more a (slightly provocative) plea. I'm now 18 months with LC, at about one year participating LC's forum. In the last weeks I sometimes looked in here. There are very interesting and high level threads in this club of since-the-early-days-of-MC-users-corner.

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread dunbarx
Hello, Hermann. Welcome to the dark side. But what do you suggest? Merging? Discarding one in favor of the other, to provide only a single venue for LC discussion? There was a poll taken a year or two ago about which forum was the most favorite among the helpers. You have sort of voted for

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 16:41, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Hermann. Welcome to the dark side. But what do you suggest? Merging? Discarding one in favor of the other, to provide only a single venue for LC discussion? There was a poll taken a year or two ago about which forum was the most favorite

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread hh
Hi Craig, But what do you suggest? To integrate the use-list into the forum, in its own first level sub-forum. There is an RSS option available, yields pretty much the same 'news'-effects. Hermann On 25 Jul 2014, at 15:41, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Hermann. Welcome to the dark

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread dunbarx
Richmond. The only thing that matters to me is that new users be able to find and participate in a forum of any kind at all. If two separate ones throws a wider net, I am for it. That said, I think two forums dilute the interchange of ideas. So I am with Hermann on that score, to create a

Re: get/set (short) name

2014-07-25 Thread hh
Hi Klaus, the only wrong thing with this are the main syntax-lines in dictionary's entry for name. These should read get the [long | abbr[ev[iated] | short] name of object set the name of object to shortName But the description is clear: get the name of obj yields the *abbrev* name of obj set

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread hh
Richmond, you certaily don't want that coffee or tea determine who's talking with whom. Hermann ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: get/set (short) name

2014-07-25 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Herrmann, Am 25.07.2014 um 16:53 schrieb hh h...@livecode.org: Hi Klaus, the only wrong thing with this are the main syntax-lines in dictionary's entry for name. These should read get the [long | abbr[ev[iated] | short] name of object set the name of object to shortName But the

Trapping errors when a stack opens

2014-07-25 Thread Peter Haworth
I have a script which opens a user-chosen stack then grabs some information about the stack. All works fine unless the opened stack has a runtime error somewhere in it's preOpenxxx or Openxxx handlers, in which case execution stops and the statements after open stack in my script are never

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 17:41, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Richmond. The only thing that matters to me is that new users be able to find and participate in a forum of any kind at all. If two separate ones throws a wider net, I am for it. That said, I think two forums dilute the interchange of ideas. So I

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 25/07/2014 16:24, Richmond wrote (my emphasis added): From my point of view the *only thing that is an advantage* of the Use-List is that messages come sequentially: one doesn't have to keep hunting through the sections of the Forums to find out whether new posting are there. What more

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
hh wrote: This is my first speech here Very glad to see you here. I figured you'd wind up here sooner or later. :) Let's find a way to come closer in the community, to come together, right now. Why not make an Insider's corner in the forum? I'm not opposed, but given that newcomers

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread larry
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I wish RunRev would allow me to add MY OWN notes to the Dictionary. That way, when I read something useful here or discover some workaround on my own, I can add it how I want to the IDE dictionary and not have to try and remember where I last read it

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Tweedly wrote: It's beyond me how anyone can be bothered with the forums (which makes me wonder if what I need for the forums is a Forums for Dummies guide). How do you tell which forums and/or which topics have posts you haven't read yet ? How do you tell which forums and/or which topics

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Peter Haworth
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: If I could solve those questions then I might have a chance of sticking to using the forums for more than a couple of days. The topic comes up ever so often, I go look at the forums, see ow much good stuff there is in there,

RELEASE: LiveCode 6.7 DP6

2014-07-25 Thread Benjamin Beaumont
Dear List Members. We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 6.7 DP6. The LiveCode community and our test team have been working hard to test and report bugs against the latest builds. Thank you once again for your support. To give you an insight into the past week we’ve seen: Bugs

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
larry wrote: I've said it before and I'll say it again: I wish RunRev would allow me to add MY OWN notes to the Dictionary. I've said it before* and I'll say it again: I wish anyone here wanted this sort of notebook badly enough to just write it as a plugin. I appreciate your submitting an

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread larry
Thank you Richard for the information. If I had the knowledge, I'd write the plugin myself and just give it away. But I've never had any formal programming training. The thing that I LOVE about LiveCode the most is that it is such an easy way for a person to learn programming concepts AND fairly

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
I just had a look at the Dictionary [6.6.2] and clicked on about notes and got a window/stack called Popup Help and had this in a sort of red-wine mixed with milk colour: Contributing notes to the Revolution dictionary is easy and helps make Revolution easier to use. Now the question I cannot

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: I just had a look at the Dictionary [6.6.2] and clicked on about notes and got a window/stack called Popup Help and had this in a sort of red-wine mixed with milk colour: Contributing notes to the Revolution dictionary is easy and helps make Revolution easier to use. Now the

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 20:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: I just had a look at the Dictionary [6.6.2] and clicked on about notes and got a window/stack called Popup Help and had this in a sort of red-wine mixed with milk colour: Contributing notes to the Revolution dictionary is easy and helps

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 20:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: I just had a look at the Dictionary [6.6.2] and clicked on about notes and got a window/stack called Popup Help and had this in a sort of red-wine mixed with milk colour: Contributing notes to the Revolution dictionary is easy and helps

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/25/2014, 11:20 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: To download for offline reading see Jacque's helpful tip on setting up email subscription for the entire forum: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2014-June/202871.html It's a stopgap solution that I use daily, but even so it doesn't

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 20:47, Richmond wrote: On 25/07/14 20:27, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: I just had a look at the Dictionary [6.6.2] and clicked on about notes and got a window/stack called Popup Help and had this in a sort of red-wine mixed with milk colour: Contributing notes to the

revTools palette loading dead-centre

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
This is an ongoing problem that has persisted ever sine the start of the Community versions. On start up the revTools.rev palette loads in the center of one's monitor right below the revMenubar.rev stack rather than off to one side. Because of the nature of the revTools drag bar it is

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Hermann: Jacque summed up the issue well, as has been done many times. Her points explain why many of us choose to participate more on this list, rather than the forums -- none of the reasons have to do with exclusivity or knowing veteran developers. What's funny is, forum users have often

...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. When you read the full Dictionary entry for open process it kinda makes sense, but it

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Don't read, don't write, don't wait for it. Perhaps for neither could be changed into without waiting. Definitely not asynchronously, because that frightens new users. We should do anything we can to keep the language as accessible as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille

Ketchup

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5t=21174 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Ketchup

2014-07-25 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
Only works with a Brit accent though. ;-) On 25 July 2014 20:49, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5t=21174 Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: Ketchup

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 25/07/14 22:50, Kaveh Bazargan wrote: Only works with a Brit accent though. ;-) Ah don't quite jalouse what you're ettlin eftir, and what's a Brit accent [mair til the point, what's a Brit?]. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Richard Gaskin wrote Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. I am not in front of a Linux computer to test this command,

getting cards open to use formatteHeight

2014-07-25 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I need to use the formattedHeight of data for calculations of slzes as I lay out forms I have the sequence of lock messages push card open invisible (long id of source card here) pop card unlock messages to insure that the necessary card is open. This results, though, in my main

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: What more advantage does anyone need ? It's beyond me how anyone can be bothered with the forums (which makes me wonder if what I need for the forums is a Forums for Dummies guide). Yes. Listserves and usenet on the one

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Personally I think all IO should at least have an asynchronous option similar to sockets so there should be a `with message` option on

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Richmond
On 26/07/14 00:35, Monte Goulding wrote: Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Those are adverbs. Richmond. Personally I think all IO should at least have an

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
On 26 Jul 2014, at 7:45 am, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Those are adverbs. That's what I meant.. I haven't had a coffee yet ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that!

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread hh
[Alex wrote:] So - is there a beginner's guide? See below, the short paragraph to RSS Reader. This is faster than your Browser and faster than your Mailer and answers all your (ironic) questions leading to this question. After what I've seen from you, I know you'll need at most 5 minutes of

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
hh wrote: [Richard H. wrote:] Listserves and usenet on the one hand, and web fora on the other, are completely different creatures. No, some of the users are. It's sometimes just another kind of thinking, of being ready or not for changes. I like the spirit of adventure in that last line.

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread hh
[Richard wrote:] ;) Is the first tutorial of the new WebKit (about that) already work in progress, or are they waiting until HTML5 is running? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: revTools palette loading dead-centre

2014-07-25 Thread dunbarx
Richmond. You are on Windows? On my several Macs, the tools palette always loads where I last left it, always at the topleft of my screens. Craig -Original Message- From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Jul 25,

Re: getting cards open to use formatteHeight

2014-07-25 Thread dunbarx
Richard, Isn't this what your code says? You push your main card, go to the source card, and then go back to main, no? Craig -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 5:13 pm Subject: getting

Re: Ketchup

2014-07-25 Thread stephen barncard
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=5t=21174 Richmond. spit out my coffee *--* *Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words* ___ use-livecode

Re: Inhibit mouse Events possible?

2014-07-25 Thread hh
LC 6.7.0 introduces set the ignoreMouseEvents of this stack to true. Doesn't inhibit mouseEvents at all but bypasses your stack window. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/25/2014, 4:35 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly.

Re: Pastel colours for charts

2014-07-25 Thread hh
Recently I tested a lot with colors and color models, had no problems with that, but different results on an somewhat older LCD. May be this is a problem of your display (or it's calibration)? Some displays appear to be 'darker' at top 20%. Did you try to compare this effect with a tool like

Re: Trapping errors when a stack opens

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Friday, July 25, 2014, 8:18:12 AM, you wrote: Any ideas of how to have my script continue AND have the opened stack script error show up? This is a limitation of the built-in debugger. coughPowerDebug/cough doesn't fall into this trap and allows you to do what you'd like to do.

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Well in that case I'd better propose an alternative. Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Monte- Friday, July 25, 2014, 6:33:53 PM, you wrote: Well in that case I'd better propose an alternative. Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. Bingo! Caffeine to the

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Hermann- Friday, July 25, 2014, 3:31:09 PM, you wrote: [Scott wrote:] It goes both ways. Jacque (and Richard) have explained how this is sort of possible. The collected mailing lists are one way but -- for me -- very nasty. I can read very fast, but it's also very hard to filter out

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 7:18:12 PM, you wrote: i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call it with no modifiers? I thought Monte was suggesting this as an enhancement? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread stephen barncard
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: I rarely venture onto the web forum, and when I do it's a pretty shallow overview of recent activity in selected topics. I want to play with the big kids too. Don't like the web based thing either. *--* *Stephen

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Those are adverbs. When Richmond corrects our English I can't help but think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 7:18:12 PM, you wrote: i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call it with no modifiers? I thought Monte was suggesting this as an enhancement? He was, but as I wrote I

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 8:36:17 PM, you wrote: Should I submit a Dictionary bug to have this simpler less silly form documented? Weird... silly is an adjective that ends in ly. I suppose it's in the same boat with jolly, portly, and unseemly. I don't think I would want to be in that

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/25/2014, 10:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Well, I just tested it and it seems that the defaults it uses are exactly what's been proposed here. Oh, I do so love happy endings. :) And now I don't have to ship Monte a corned beef on rye. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: ...for neither - really?

2014-07-25 Thread Monte Goulding
Doesn't have to be that fancy Jacque. I'm happy with PBJ ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 26 Jul 2014, at 2:09 pm, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/25/2014, 10:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Well, I just tested

Re: Maiden speech from an old man

2014-07-25 Thread Kay C Lan
I'm with Jacque on this one, i just don't have the bandwidth; neither mental or telecom. On a news report last night they said that 50% of the world's population have never made or received a phone call. Personally I don't believe that but I can make up a statistic that confirms that most people