Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Um. Like every other platform for LiveCode, there is an open source Community version of HTML5. Not seeing the problem here? You pay for commercial, closed source. You use Community free and share your code. Regards, Heather > On 28 Jul 2017, at 12:07, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode >

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Well, that is reasonably obvious . . . Presumably (?) that means that HTML5 things hived-off the Community version of LiveCode are in readable Java-script and may be opened and edited as such, while the version of HTML5 available for $299/year hives-off protected code? Richmond. On 7/28/17

HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I just recieved an e-mail from LiveCode central offering me a licence for HTML5 for $299/year. And that seems 'normal' considering my Indy licence does NOT include a licence for HTML5. BUT: the Community version allowed me to build an HTML5 thing. That also seems a bit arsy-versy.

Re: Importing Unicode from MySQL

2017-07-28 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Trevor, does sqlYoga do this automatically? Is there a down side to doing > this by default? > SQL Yoga does not. I'm not familiar with the SET NAMES query so I don't know what the down sides

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
No, that means, that you have to release your source code to the public when using the community version, while you don´t have to do it when you have a commercial license. Matthias > Am 28.07.2017 um 15:12 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > : > >

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread hh via use-livecode
*** The following is how I judge this, not based on any 'official document'. *** Depends a little bit upon what you are doing. The javascript part of the calling web page is always accessible, no matter the license. So, important parts that you have as javascript in the standalone's webpage are

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 11:30, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: From LiveCode 8.0 upwards when one wants a new stack one is given a menu of choices for iPads, iPhones and so on. Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one can accommodate one's own sizes? That is perhaps something we

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Default dimension is 400 (missing value) but if specified then 101 would be the smallest (if pHeight > 100 then...) > > On Jul 28, 2017 at 10:06 AM, (mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com)> wrote: > > > > Forget to remark: revIDENewMainstack 40,30 =

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Am I the only one who doesn't make all of his stacks the same size? :) I generally don't care what size they're created at. I resize them as I work by dragging the edges, as users do. In those cases where I need a fixed size, the specific dimensions are rarely discernible in advance,

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:01, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: But those seem pretty rare to me. On desktop my windows tend to be different sizes, and on mobile it's important that they be responsive to any screen size; in either case the specific dimensions at the moment of creation seem of

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
Although I am one of the people calling for more browser widget development... I have my doubts about the ability to make it synchronous with LC. JavaScript is not even reliably synchronous with HTML5, forcing JS developers to use callbacks and event listeners in weird places. Unless you guys

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hermann has the 'the right' of it here. Basically it is important to remember that just because you *might* be able to see source-code it doesn't mean you have the right to copy, use or do anything with it. If there is no license attached to it, or if there is not a clear declaration of a

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/28/2017 02:50 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one can accommodate one's own sizes? not permanently, since this will be gone with every new version of LC. But why not create a plug-in? Nothing easier that that: Create a stack

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > As for web app vs native app, @Richard Gaskin You *can*, obviously, > build a "web app" (html5+js+css) and package it in the app and run > it off line. another lad here on our team builds in ionic/React > /Angular. But his app is "native" to the phone,

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
It requires setting up chained handlers on both the LC and JS side, but as long as you structure it well, it is not that bad. I can tell you that for working with maps, it is essential. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:28 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode >

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread hh via use-livecode
Forget to remark: revIDENewMainstack 40,30 = revIDENewMainstack 400,400 because revIDENewMainstack yourWidth,yourHeight sets new width to the maximum of yourWidth and 400 sets new height to the maximum of yourHeight and 400 ___ use-livecode

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 16:47, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: Hence oft-repeated prayer that we get the browser "widget" to become a true member of the LC message hierarchy, they we can leverage the web apps eye candy layer (easy to build, responsive, CSS is already done for us…) with

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:28, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: on myRequest —send a POST or GET request, whatever, with a callback handler specified. —display a mask that inhibits new mouse clicks and sets a busy icon. end myRequest on myCallbackHander myReturnData —do whatever you want

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Oops - I forgot to say 'I am not a laywer but'... At the start of this. I should say that most of this stuff is pretty standard, in general as long as you always use attach a license to your commercial works, and always follow the requirements of the GPL then you don't have to worry about

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Richmond wrote: > From LiveCode 8.0 upwards when one wants a new stack one is given a > menu of choices for iPads, iPhones and so on. > Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one can accommodate > one's own sizes? Just type into the messageBox revIDENewMainstack , for example:

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread hh via use-livecode
Of course my "look-up" in the IDE: revIDENewMainstack max(,400),max(,400) is quick and dirty compared to the clever plugin-solution of Klaus: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-July/239883.html Sorry Klaus. I overlooked your post. I really write too much and read too

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hallo Hermann, > Am 28.07.2017 um 17:18 schrieb hh via use-livecode > : > > Of course my "look-up" in the IDE: > > revIDENewMainstack max(,400),max(,400) > > is quick and dirty compared to the clever plugin-solution of Klaus: >

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-26 23:06, hh via use-livecode wrote: There are, sadly, still very basic things missing, which make the HTML5 standalone builder, TMHO, not yet ready for "beta"-state. Well - yes - the 'beta' state as I mentioned was a slip (mainly in that we don't do 'beta' in our dev process as I

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Folks: As a long term Director developer, I found the use of listeners and callbacks to be quite easy to implement. I don’t see the problem. on myRequest —send a POST or GET request, whatever, with a callback handler specified. —display a mask that inhibits new mouse clicks and sets a busy

template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
From LiveCode 8.0 upwards when one wants a new stack one is given a menu of choices for iPads, iPhones and so on. Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one can accommodate one's own sizes? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Richmond, > Am 28.07.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > : > > From LiveCode 8.0 upwards when one wants a new stack one is given a menu > of choices for iPads, iPhones and so on. > > Is there a way to edit that menu PERMANENTLY so one >

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 16:36, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Oops - I forgot to say 'I am not a laywer but'... At the start of this. I should say that most of this stuff is pretty standard, in general as long as you always use attach a license to your commercial works, and always follow the

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Matt wrote: Except that they've aged out of the phase where it's easy to learn new things. So they feel like an idiot baby and it takes way too much effort to push through the learning curve. LOL, hence my surprise after listening to some complaints by older folks about the

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Duly submitted from Chrome. Something is wrong with Firefox. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20201 Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:47 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I selected IDE (I did it again) and I cannot see the OS field. The web

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Again this is general and not specific. The case Richmond put forward is very much a case of over-reach from my point of view (it is quite possible that there was something in his contract there - probably obscurely worded, or it was the universities lawyers interpretation of statute). I

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/28/2017 01:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: Duly submitted from Chrome. Something is wrong with Firefox. I recently had a brief flirtation with Firefox for a few weeks, then gave up in disgust and went back to Chrome. Web browsers are such memory hogs these days. -- Mark

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
What an unfortunate way of looking at things, because what knowledge do ANY of us have that we developed "on our own"? Any program I write I use knowledge I "developed" from any number of sources. Should they all have a claim on what I do? For this to really work, the knowledge would have to

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sorry I didn't mean it was an unfortunate way for you specifically to see things, I also meant generally how things are perceived by those who litigate such matters. You must pay closer attention to what I am thinking. ;-) Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 14:14 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I selected IDE (I did it again) and I cannot see the OS field. The web page is jacked. Or my browser is. Not surprising the latter as Mozilla has been becoming increasingly less usable as the months go by. Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:39 , Alex Tweedly via use-livecode >

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/28/2017 11:41 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: This is, of course, why I sometimes take 1000 words to say things which could have been said in 10 ;) Wouldn't have it any other way -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/28/2017 10:33 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: And again, those refinements to the mobile-specific items in the New Stack menu are a separate matter from settable dimensions for the Default size. In practice, new and old users alike will learn as soon as they start laying out

Re: Importing Unicode from MySQL

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well it wouldn't matter for sqlite, only for mySQL methinks, and if it is connection specific, the query can be executed as needed. Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 06:24 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Bob Sneidar

Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode
Hi, This has been asked before on this list and in the forums and I’ve never seen even a single reply. I assume it’s either blindingly obvious or something we’re "not supposed to do." When a web page loaded in the current Livecode browser widget contains a link that should be opened in a tab

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said Ali has been looking at this - we don't want a repeat of the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up' - and that was entirely down to a spelling error which *perhaps* would not have happened had we had a more structured approach to

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Can we all have free T-shirts with "*the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up'**" on them ? Love, Richmond. * On 7/28/17 9:12 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 7/28/17 12:35 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode
Thank you Mark, I'm reluctant to file a bug report if I’m just not handling the appropriate message. I’ve tried catching the following messages in the script of the browser widget and none of them appear to be sent when clicking on the example link in a page with nothing else defined. The web

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Hi Jacque. My growing consternation is that I have a LOT more lines in the list than show up in the application browser. But I suppose I have a lot of groups within groups so okay. What I am actually trying to do is get a list of every visible object on a card so I can set the windows size

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Moreover, the "controlNames" (as well as the "controlIDs") have never been documented: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11901 Best, Panos -- On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:30 PM, panagiotis merakos wrote: > Hi Jacque, > > Control names within a group can be obtained

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
Ooer . . . and how, pray tell, does one tease out what one learnt in one loaction from what one learnt in another? I was teaching some kiddos 2 weeks agao and showed one of them a stack of mine; and he said, "That's a silly way to do that." and then showed me what he thougth was a better way

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:17, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: I think we're closer on this than might have originally seemed: Indeed - on this and most things I think. I've always assumed that you tend to ask certain questions, or phrase things in a certain in way to give us (well, me,

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I cannot file a bug report. The QCC is saying "A value must be set for the 'Desktop OS' field, but I am not being presented with a Desktop OS field. Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 13:11 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > >> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 ,

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-07-28 20:17, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> I think we're closer on this than might have originally seemed: > > Indeed - on this and most things I think. > > I've always assumed that you tend to ask certain questions, or phrase > things in a certain in

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 7/28/17 7:01 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Am I the only one who doesn't make all of his stacks the same size? :) > > No, you're not . . . > > *BUT*, imagine working for an employer who had fixated on a set size; > things would be a lot quicker if

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:34 , Mark Waddingham via use-livecode > wrote: > > It is hard to know from this what to expect (as I don't know what structure > your card has). > > Could you file a report in the quality center, with a simple stack which > shows what

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Thanks Jacque and Richard. That will do the trick, except that while the vertical works, the horizontal does not. By that I mean I can expand the size of the stack and the top and bottom items do not change, but if I expand the stack sideways the right DOES change. Further, the left always

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 1:33 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: What I am actually trying to do is get a list of every visible object on a card so I can set the windows size to encompass all VISIBLE objects. In that case, I think you want the formattedRect of the card. It ignores invisibles. --

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode
Thanks Matthias, I was working on a bug report and you beat me to it!! Tim Bleiler, Ph.D. Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo > On Jul 28, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > I´ve just filed a bug report about the

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Mark wrote: > However, there is one VERY important point I do need to make. It is easy > to get hang up on saying 'oh the HTML5 engine doesn't do this, and oh it > doesn't do that' - and this might well be true. *However* the only important > metric in this regard is - does it allow a suitable

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
It's under item 4 of "enter a bug" ( http://quality.livecode.com/enter_bug.cgi ) It insists on you filling in this in order - so once you fill in the "I can see this in ..." (choose IDE vs Desktop vs ...) , it will then present you with a box for OS, then for version, then for --

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 18:34, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: A sense of smooth liquid flow is the hallmark of modern UI. If support for this were limited to one widget that requires JavaScript, we might as well use the other tools you mentioned above. This is simply not true. All tools have

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not include button names. However it*does* list a great many numbers of 4 digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry for it,

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:18, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote: I don’t see any other messages in the dictionary that look applicable. If one of these was expected to work, then I’ll file the bug report. Please do file a report - they are the only messages it sends, so if you get none of them

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 5:32 pm, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: * It is really important to note that in the UK, and most other countries, if you write code during periods of time you are being paid for by your employer, then the copyright is implicitly owned by the company *and not* you.

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 7:01 pm, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Am I the only one who doesn't make all of his stacks the same size? :) No, you're not . . . *BUT*, imagine working for an employer who had fixated on a set size; things would be a lot quicker if everytime one fired up LiveCode to

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 12:35 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said Ali has been looking at this - we don't want a repeat of the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up' - and that was entirely down to a spelling error which *perhaps* would not

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:12, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: On 7/28/17 12:35 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: On 2017-07-28 19:33, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That being said Ali has been looking at this - we don't want a repeat of the 8.1.6-RC-2 'balls-up' - and that

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 12:53 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: I think we could discuss here on the list how it might work and then add to the feature request if we come up with something. After writing my response, I see that Richard has provided a nice description in the bug report that covers

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Bob, On 2017-07-28 19:52, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
I´ve just filed a bug report about the problem that links that should open in a separate tab are not opened in Browserwidget Bug 20200 Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 28.07.2017 um 20:22

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:40, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: Ooer . . . and how, pray tell, does one tease out what one learnt in one loaction from what one learnt in another? I appreciate that in the realm of teaching (the example you gave) the area is a little grey. However, in the

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:01, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Right now JS/HTML5/CSS etc. has the edge over LiveCode in creating these rich UIs. Now, to be honest, the acceleratedRendering mode of LiveCode (which has been around for years) is no different from the underlying tech in browsers

Re: Importing Unicode from MySQL

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 15:24, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode wrote: SQL Yoga does not. I'm not familiar with the SET NAMES query so I don't know what the down sides are. None as far as I can see :) See: https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/charset-connection.html Basically SET NAMES and related

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
One point where the LC UI is superior to HTML MouseStillDown LC has this handler, HTML5 does not - at least not in a simple way. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi, > > This has been asked

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:30, Bleiler, Timothy via use-livecode wrote: It’s the browser’s responsibility to handle this html syntax https://www.w3schools.com; target="_blank">Visit W3Schools Is there a way to deal with this using the browser widget in Livecode? In the context of the browser widget,

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-07-28 18:34, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> A sense of smooth liquid flow is the hallmark of modern UI. If >> support for this were limited to one widget that requires JavaScript, >> we might as well use the other tools you mentioned above. > > This

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > At the end of the day, it might not be that making it synchronous *is* the > solution, but instead tweaking engine syntax and semantics to make it > easier to deal with this

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-07-28 18:01, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> But those seem pretty rare to me. On desktop my windows tend to be >> different sizes, and on mobile it's important that they be responsive >> to any screen size; in either case the specific dimensions at

Re: template stacks

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:20, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: I haven't suggested we get rid of the device-oriented sizes, only questioning the utility of creating and maintaining a prefs setting for the Default size. Heh - well I perhaps got the wrong end of the stick of this thread then :)

controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
hi all. I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 digits. So I tried looking up controlNames in the dictionary and there is no entry for it, at least not by using the find function. Bob S

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 12:01 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: That is the standard process for all enhancement requests. They are HIBERNATED until we have the time to evaluate and prioritise - if we were to do anything else, we would end up never getting any work done - and work we are doing

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sorry, V8.1.5 OS X Sierra Bob S > On Jul 28, 2017, at 10:52 , Bob Sneidar wrote: > > hi all. > > I can get the controlnames of a card, but at first blush the list does not > include button names. However it *does* list a great many numbers of 4 > digits. So I

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Jacque, Control names within a group can be obtained by: "the childControlNames of group myGroup" Best, Panos -- On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 7:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > On 7/28/17 12:52 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > >> I can

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 19:49, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode wrote: It turns out that teachers who make software at home, in their own time, do NOT own the copyright to their work if they are under contract to schools unless this has been explicitly "sorted out" in advance . . . a situation that,

Re: Another Browser Widget Question

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-28 20:35, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode wrote: I´ve just filed a bug report about the problem that links that should open in a separate tab are not opened in Browserwidget Bug 20200 Thanks Matthias. In this case - I think this

Re: controlNames deprecated??

2017-07-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > That [formattedRect] will do the trick, except that while the > vertical works, the horizontal does not. By that I mean I can > expand the size of the stack and the top and bottom items do > not change, but if I expand the stack sideways the right DOES > change. Further, the

Re: HTML5: mixed signals

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hehe - well I wasn't entirely sure I had managed to abstract what I think about such things compared to pragmatic reality. I also seem to be suffering a touch of sun stroke - so my 'tilt at windmills' level is slightly higher than normal ;) Warmest Regards, Mark. P.S. The last person to

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Hi Hermann, First of all please don't take any offence at my email as none was intended. I was mainly trying to explain that whilst there are many things the HTML5 engine does not do, which means many stacks will not work without changes/workarounds (indeed, somewhat significant ones) -

Password Protected stack on the web

2017-07-28 Thread Todd Fabacher via use-livecode
Can we call a password protected stack from a web server script? --Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Password Protected stack on the web

2017-07-28 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Yes - the commercial version of LiveCode server (available through your LiveCode account area) can use protected stacks. Warmest Regards, Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 28 Jul 2017, at 20:36, Todd Fabacher via use-livecode > wrote: > > Can we call a password

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 7:29 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: P.S. At some point I'll write at length about the 'wait' problem in HTML5. Whilst I try not to let myself be kept awake at night by engineering problems related to work - if ever there was one which did, it would be that one! When

Compiling LiveCode on Sierra

2017-07-28 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Is it possible to compile the LiveCode IDE on Mac OS 10.12.6? I tried to follow the instructions on GitHub. I have the Xcode versions downloaded. I had to use sudo to get the setup_xcode_sdks.sh to finish. First pass was missing Java, so went back and installed that. Was able to configure, but

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/28/17 1:14 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: What specific problem do we really need to solve... i.e. Is card-level swiping generally important enough to warrant an approach which isn't quite so general (very specific, one might say!)? The thing here is that we could well

Re: Web vs Native (was Re: HTML5 limitations?)

2017-07-28 Thread Jonathan Lynch via use-livecode
I thought that JS/HTML5 did not have a wait function? One can loop the engine, which is horrible, or one can set timeouts for functions. What functionality do you access to induce a wait? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >