Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
I am sure it is possible. I just don't have the PHP/HTML/Javascript/whatever skills to do that. On 11/5/2019 12:02 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: On this issue, isn't it possible to let a web server detect the OS requesting the download? So the server can then do the picking and send the right version to the requestor? Or maybe the info available to the server about the requesting OS isn't that detailed. Not sure. At least I'm sure I can use a single download link for an app's Mac and Windows installers. Phil Davis On 11/5/19 8:33 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I'm not saying YOUR experience is invalid. I guess I am just saying we have really really really computer naive customers and Apple has gone and complicated things and it creates a support burden for us that we would not have had to expend resources addressing if Apple had not done this. Apple has, and there is no going back, so it is what it is, but it is really really annoying! :-( On 11/5/2019 11:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap into that resource! ;-) Bob S On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause. And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
On 11/5/19 12:26 PM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I am sure it is possible. I just don't have the PHP/HTML/Javascript/whatever skills to do that. Me neither. I do it either directly in a .lc server page, or else the .lc page starts using a stackfile that does it. (fiddling around with different machines...) It appears the $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] server global might provide an adequate distinction between OSes on requesting machines. I just ran a 'globals.lc' server page from 3 different Macs with different OS versions and got this info returned: $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_13_6) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.87 Safari/537.36 $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/78.0.3904.70 Safari/537.36 $_SERVER[HTTP_USER_AGENT] = Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_14_5) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/12.1.1 Safari/605.1.15 My server's globals.lc page looks like this on the inside: " after tOutput end repeat put tOutput ?> Phil Davis On 11/5/2019 12:02 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: On this issue, isn't it possible to let a web server detect the OS requesting the download? So the server can then do the picking and send the right version to the requestor? Or maybe the info available to the server about the requesting OS isn't that detailed. Not sure. At least I'm sure I can use a single download link for an app's Mac and Windows installers. Phil Davis On 11/5/19 8:33 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I'm not saying YOUR experience is invalid. I guess I am just saying we have really really really computer naive customers and Apple has gone and complicated things and it creates a support burden for us that we would not have had to expend resources addressing if Apple had not done this. Apple has, and there is no going back, so it is what it is, but it is really really annoying! :-( On 11/5/2019 11:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap into that resource! ;-) Bob S On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause. And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations?
The person in question is both an adult and has expressed an interest in learning computer science, not natural languages, so most of the discussion here has been irrelevant to your request. Scratch, for example, can be useful for young learners but at higher cognitive development levels is unnecessarily limited and possibly confusing. There's a vast wealth of resources for learning programming all over the web, so many it's hard to pick just one. But as an entry point for learning LC, which makes an excellent choice for acquiring CS fundamentals, I would suggest starting with: 1. Do the first-run tutorial presented when LC boots. 2. Read the first few chapters of the LC User Guide included in the package. It's pretty good, very comprehensive, yet sorely underutilized. Skim the topic-specific stuff so you know where to go later as needed, but a good review of the intro stuff on the object model and language basics is a great start. As for design, start him off with "Don't Make Me Think", but Steve Krug. It's a slender volume that recaps the basics for modern, contemporary UI/UX practices. If those resources hook him we can find more. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Graham wrote: I was disappointed that I only got one reply to my query about LC as a platform for learning programming - I thought this was a big thing with quite a few people on this list, some of whom are actually educators. Since I’ve failed in this, can someone suggest a better way of getting an answer (e.g. forums, mother ship)? TIA Graham I wrote: I have been approached by one of my family to ask what would be the first steps for someone (a young adult) to enable them to enter the world of app design and programming. Obviously I need to ask more questions myself, such as whether this would be to get a job, or simply as an educational exercise, or maybe to provide a launchpad for a startup idea. However, even at this stage, of course my thoughts turned to LiveCode. So my question to the community is, how would such a person start off - assuming they’re intelligent, very familiar with consumer-level technology such as smart phones, tablets, laptop computers for study etc. and social media, but probably have never seen or thought about what is involved in designing, implementing and publishing an app (I would just say “a program”, but that shows how old I am) on any platform? If it is LC (and why not?), are the published lessons sufficient? What is the view of those on this list who do actually teach this stuff? The trouble for me is that I have been around all this for 50 years (more, to be truthful) and so can’t project myself well into the mind of that kind of newbie. One guess is that one way to start would be to find a cheap hardware platform (probably an Android tablet) and try to use the LC Community Edition to allow me to create something for that; but that idea may be stupid, particularly as one would need a different platform to actually do the development work. Hoping for some insights Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
OT? The Grammar of the Elements
2019 has been designated by UNESCO as the International Year of the Periodic Table, which is IYPT because it wouldn't fit into a TLA. Herein we find: (!) a seven-volume Sanskrit-German dictionary (!) Sanskrit -> 3,959 rules organized into eight chapters. https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-grammar-of-the-elements -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Android brightness
Hello, I'm making a barcode application. For barcodes to be displayed. android screen brightness reaches 100% so the android screen will be maximum brightness. so the barcode will look very clear even if the android screen is dim. is this possible with livecode? if possible, is a sample code that I can learn? Thanks, Riko --- I'm studying livecode. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: server push to desktop client
Thank you Kee! This is extremely helpful. Phil On 11/5/19 12:38 AM, Kee Nethery via use-livecode wrote: Normal data flow is Mac app contacts a central server and sees if there is updated data to acquire. If yes, it acquires it. This is the normal flow because of firewalls and ports. For the server to really push data to a Mac client, the Mac client has to be a server, with a routable IP address / port. Most client machines are behind firewalls that allow them to initiate contact, but do not allow random external machines to contact them. So the normal setup is, server has a dns entry on an IP address that anyone can reach from anywhere on the Internet. Server is listening on a single port for incoming connections. Assuming the same data (updates) goes to each client, server has a text page containing a single integer. That integer is the number of the latest update. Client hits that web page periodically to see if its internal integer is different from the server. It’s a very quick exchange. Client sees their internal integer isn’t the same. Let’s say client has 92 and server has 103. Client then hits pages 93 to 103 to get all the updates. For example: http://my.server.com/updates/93.txt All the way to: http://my.server.com/updates/103.txt On the server side, you create update pages and increment the integer at something like: http://my.server.com/updates/last.txt The server is fast because it serves up static pages and the fastest page is last.txt because it’s only (in this example) three characters “103”. I’m assuming all clients get the same data. When each client gets unique data, you’ll probably have a database on the server and clients will do hits against the server to see if they have new data to gather, and if yes, they’ll do their query with their userid to gather their data. The trade off between server text pages and server database responses is one of those things you’ll need to figure out which is most efficient for you. Could be you ship a client that can do both and the very first hit to the server is a static page that tells the client “text” or “database” and then the client does the right thing. Could periodically check that page and perhaps you have a flag on it like “database always” that tells the client to stop checking, all updates forever will be the database update process. But ... client pulls from the server because most servers cannot push through firewalls and routers an NAT servers to initiate first contact with a client. Kee Nethery On Nov 4, 2019, at 11:26 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode wrote: I need to make a desktop app (Mac only for now) that receives pushed data from a LC server. I've never done this - all the desktop <-> server interactions I've programmed have used the traditional client-server model. So I'm looking for approaches/tips/ideas from anyone who has experience with other approaches. I'm not sure what protocol to use. And maybe I'm making it too hard. Can FTP watch a server folder, and detect and respond to the creation of a file in the folder? Maybe I could use a method like that, if that's a capability of FTP. Thanks for any input you may offer. -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: server push to desktop client
Thanks for sharing your insight Richard. Great food for thought. Phil On 11/5/19 12:29 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Phil Davis wrote: > I need to make a desktop app (Mac only for now) that receives pushed > data from a LC server. I've never done this - all the desktop <-> > server interactions I've programmed have used the traditional client- > server model. So I'm looking for approaches/tips/ideas from anyone > who has experience with other approaches. I'd stick with simple polling for this. Anything else requires either opening a socket (with all the firewall/router changes needed to allow that), or creating a dependency on a separate process like push notifications, which would likely require LCB. Polling can get the job done well enough, and is secure and requires no router changes or external dependencies. And if down the road you find a convenient way to switch to something else you can change that part, but at least it lets you get it out the door now using reliable features and your existing skillset. > And maybe I'm making it too hard. Can FTP watch a server folder, and > detect and respond to the creation of a file in the folder? Maybe I > could use a method like that, if that's a capability of FTP. You could poll from the client using FTP, but compared to HTTP it's a noisy protocol, with many more steps internally. The inefficiency of FTP is more than offset by its utility when ad hoc access to remote file stores are needed. But when the goal is more specific, HTTP will often beat it for both efficiency and client implementation cost every time. On the server, an LC Server script that reports any changes to a folder from the last time it was called would be straightforward to write, give you reliably consistent results*, and would run quickly. * Years ago when I was monitoring folders with FTP I learned more than I cared to about FTP date representations. They vary. A lot. By different rules, according to a vastly flexible set of config options. So you can never know which server will use month-and-day only up to a certain cutoff, and then one of several month-day-year options for anything older. Sometimes the cuttoff is a month. Sometimes it's the year break. Other times it's a specific number of days. "Hey man, it's all about flexibility!" In all cases it can mean a listing in which date representations take on at least two different formats. Even if you just had LC Server return "the detailed files" at least you'd have solid consistency in the format of every file, every time. -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
On this issue, isn't it possible to let a web server detect the OS requesting the download? So the server can then do the picking and send the right version to the requestor? Or maybe the info available to the server about the requesting OS isn't that detailed. Not sure. At least I'm sure I can use a single download link for an app's Mac and Windows installers. Phil Davis On 11/5/19 8:33 AM, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: I'm not saying YOUR experience is invalid. I guess I am just saying we have really really really computer naive customers and Apple has gone and complicated things and it creates a support burden for us that we would not have had to expend resources addressing if Apple had not done this. Apple has, and there is no going back, so it is what it is, but it is really really annoying! :-( On 11/5/2019 11:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap into that resource! ;-) Bob S On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause. And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis 503-307-4363 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
New edition of Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner
I'm very happy to announce the second edition of my book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner. The previous edition stems from the time of LiveCode 6 and since then many features have been added to --and some removed from-- LiveCode. One of the major changes concerns Unicode. While I haven't deleted any of the valuable information about Unicode form the book, I have added a paragraph and made several changes to take into account the much easier way LiveCode deals with unicode nowadays. Everywhere in the book, small corrections and bigger changes have been applied. Where necessary, scripts have been updated and minor remarks have been added, making the text more comprehensible. The paragraphs about the standalone builder and the properties inspector have been renewed. Pictures have been updated with improved quality and doing more justice to LiveCode's multi-platform character. The red cover with scripts and mainboard has been replaced with a fresh yellow cover exhibiting four fields in which one might find LiveCode projects making a significant contribution. I intend to write a blog post about this when I have collected the necessary info. In response to feedback, we have decided to abandonthe bubble plastic envelopes and replace them with carton board book cases. Your book should now arrive in perfect condition. If it doesn't, contact us. Important to know: - 250 pages with many examples - This book is not available as e-book and it won't be. Don't ask. - Read more at https://ecxtalk.nl/file.php?node=programming-livecode-for-the-real-beginner (we still need to update the website but most information still applies) - The book costs 32 euro, including packaging and shipping costs - We ship globally with only a few (four or five) exceptions - Not receiving your purchase (e.g. sometimes in China)? Use our website to contact us and ask for a solution Have you written or are you writing a book and do you own the copyrights? I'd like to explore the possibilities to print more LiveCode-related books. Contact me if you think this is an awesome idea. (I'm a registered publisher). -- Kind regards, Drs. Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Facebook: http://facebook.com/LiveCode.Beginner KvK: 50277553 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
I'm not saying YOUR experience is invalid. I guess I am just saying we have really really really computer naive customers and Apple has gone and complicated things and it creates a support burden for us that we would not have had to expend resources addressing if Apple had not done this. Apple has, and there is no going back, so it is what it is, but it is really really annoying! :-( On 11/5/2019 11:23 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap into that resource! ;-) Bob S On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause. And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Catalina & Mojave "Allow/Deny" dialogs
Another "fun" feature of the newer macOS versions is the new Privacy (tab in the Security and Privacy pane of the System Preferences). It seems that running our app generates a number of system dialogs of the form "[[OUR APPLICATION]] wants access to " with "OK" and "Don't Allow" buttons. Two of these make perfect sense. 1) Is access to the Internet, which appears to appear if and only if the Firewall is truned on (default in Mojave is off and in Catalina is on). Our app access a server file to see if there is a new version of itself. 2) [[OUR APPLICATION]] wants access to control "Finder.app". Allowing control will provide access to documents and data in "Finder.app", and to perform actions in that app." with the expected "OK" and "Don't Allow". This took me a while to figure out, but apparently it is cause by any app that uses AppleEvents. We use AppleEvents to detect if a document has been dropped on our app or one of our apps documents has been double clicked. We also respond to AppleEvent quit messages to exit our application. Seemingly pretty basic desktop applications tasks now have a vague warning message associated with them. NOW HERE IS THE PUZZLER. When our app is sitting there idle, we just saw one of these that says: "[[[OUR APPLICATION]] would like to access your Contacts" with the expected "OK" and "Don't Allow". Now, NOTHING in our application has anything to do with a person Contacts. So does anyone have ANY idea why this would popup? What LiveCode statements or functions could generate this. Would access revMail do it? Our app can ask to send an email under certain situations. Does anyone have any experience with these new "Privacy" warnings and how best to address them? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Printing issue on Windows confirmed, reported
Thanks to a new forum user who provided a handy sample stack, I was able to pin down a recipe for making a very common form of printing on Windows completely unusable: Setting the vGrid or hGrid properties of a field cause the field to be rendered into the print buffer with the entire content region blacked out: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22442 Interestingly, printing to PDF works fine. But using Microsoft OneNote's "Print to file" option shows the anomaly as physical printers do. So if you're among those mystified by weird printing output, this may be the issue. Hopefully this will be addressed quickly. In its current state it kills LC as an option for a wide range of business and consumer applications. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android mobile audio player
Hello Jacque, What Android version does your device run? A rough guess is that the problem is security/permissions related. On Android 9+ there is something equivalent to iOS ATS that blocks connections that do not comply with some security standards. You can workaround this by adding a suitable entry to the Android manifest. See "Option 2" in this bug report: https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22400 Kind regards, Panos -- On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 23:40, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I'm unable to get the native player to work on Android, using scripts > that did work previously. I'm streaming mp3 files from a server, and > they work fine on desktop so I know the file is being sent. I've also > tried opening a copy from Dropbox in three different audio players on > Android and they all play too, so the file format is okay. > > The script I'm using, which worked previously: > > command createMobileAudioPlayer pURL, pPlayerName >-- pURL = remote video or audio file >-- pPlayerName = name of player to create >mobileControlCreate "player",pPlayerName >mobileControlSet pPlayerName, "visible", true >mobileControlSet pPlayerName, "rect", getPlayerRect() -- returns a rect >mobileControlSet pPlayerName, "showController", true >mobileControlSet pPlayerName, "filename", pURL >if pURL begins with "http" then > showBusyIndicator true -- show spinner until duration is available >end if > end createMobileAudioPlayer > > on playerPropertyAvailable tProperty -- sent when enough has content is > loaded >if tProperty is "duration" then > showBusyIndicator false -- Remove spinner and start playing > setMobileAudioPlayer "listen", "play" -- handles playback >end if > end playerPropertyAvailable > > The control does get created, but shows a duration of zero. The > playerPropertyAvailable message never arrives, so the player doesn't > start. I've tried starting the player directly from the > "createMobileAudioPlayer" handler but that also fails. > > I'd like to verify that audio is no longer working before I submit a > report. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Thermal printer bluetooth
Hi , Something we need on LC Mac , LC Android and LC IOS also. Bluetooth and USB works fine on LC Windows using Virtual Com port. Serial over USB. Serial over Bluetooth. Unfortunately no current cross platform solution with LC which would open up solution for all those apps that communicate with external hardware if put right. Regards Camm > On 5 Nov 2019, at 11:17, Riko Abdul via use-livecode > wrote: > > Why does LC not support Bluetooth. I want to use a thermal printer for my > application. I use LC for Android but I found a problem using Bluetooth for > Android. whether LC cannot be used for printers with Bluetooth? > > Thanks > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
LC is not the only app bringing up this alert. The standard way to open non-notarized apps is to right-click (cntl-click) on the app and select “Open” in the resulting menu. You will then be presented with a dialog asking if you really want to open the app. Once you do this LC will open. This is a once only procedure. James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: server push to desktop client
Normal data flow is Mac app contacts a central server and sees if there is updated data to acquire. If yes, it acquires it. This is the normal flow because of firewalls and ports. For the server to really push data to a Mac client, the Mac client has to be a server, with a routable IP address / port. Most client machines are behind firewalls that allow them to initiate contact, but do not allow random external machines to contact them. So the normal setup is, server has a dns entry on an IP address that anyone can reach from anywhere on the Internet. Server is listening on a single port for incoming connections. Assuming the same data (updates) goes to each client, server has a text page containing a single integer. That integer is the number of the latest update. Client hits that web page periodically to see if its internal integer is different from the server. It’s a very quick exchange. Client sees their internal integer isn’t the same. Let’s say client has 92 and server has 103. Client then hits pages 93 to 103 to get all the updates. For example: http://my.server.com/updates/93.txt All the way to: http://my.server.com/updates/103.txt On the server side, you create update pages and increment the integer at something like: http://my.server.com/updates/last.txt The server is fast because it serves up static pages and the fastest page is last.txt because it’s only (in this example) three characters “103”. I’m assuming all clients get the same data. When each client gets unique data, you’ll probably have a database on the server and clients will do hits against the server to see if they have new data to gather, and if yes, they’ll do their query with their userid to gather their data. The trade off between server text pages and server database responses is one of those things you’ll need to figure out which is most efficient for you. Could be you ship a client that can do both and the very first hit to the server is a static page that tells the client “text” or “database” and then the client does the right thing. Could periodically check that page and perhaps you have a flag on it like “database always” that tells the client to stop checking, all updates forever will be the database update process. But ... client pulls from the server because most servers cannot push through firewalls and routers an NAT servers to initiate first contact with a client. Kee Nethery > On Nov 4, 2019, at 11:26 PM, Phil Davis via use-livecode > wrote: > > I need to make a desktop app (Mac only for now) that receives pushed data > from a LC server. I've never done this - all the desktop <-> server > interactions I've programmed have used the traditional client-server model. > So I'm looking for approaches/tips/ideas from anyone who has experience with > other approaches. > > I'm not sure what protocol to use. > > And maybe I'm making it too hard. Can FTP watch a server folder, and detect > and respond to the creation of a file in the folder? Maybe I could use a > method like that, if that's a capability of FTP. > > Thanks for any input you may offer. > > -- > Phil Davis > 503-307-4363 > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
Hello, I just installed LC Indy 9.5.0. on MacOS 10.15 Catalina I can't start LC Indy. My Mac tells me: "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0 can't be opened, because Apple can't search for malware in this app." This software has to be updated. Probably this was already a question on this list, but I couldn't find the answer, what I have to do. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Thermal printer bluetooth
Not sure of the current status but a couple of years ago I had excellent results using the mergBLE extensions - I was able to do both high- and low- level bluetooth things on Mac and on iOS. http://mergext.com/home/mergble/ I can't recall - when Monte joined LiveCode, did the mergExt package get rolled in somehow? Ben On 05/11/2019 11:46, General 2018 via use-livecode wrote: Hi , Something we need on LC Mac , LC Android and LC IOS also. Bluetooth and USB works fine on LC Windows using Virtual Com port. Serial over USB. Serial over Bluetooth. Unfortunately no current cross platform solution with LC which would open up solution for all those apps that communicate with external hardware if put right. Regards Camm On 5 Nov 2019, at 11:17, Riko Abdul via use-livecode wrote: Why does LC not support Bluetooth. I want to use a thermal printer for my application. I use LC for Android but I found a problem using Bluetooth for Android. whether LC cannot be used for printers with Bluetooth? Thanks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
One annoyance from Catalina and Notarization for me as a developer: LiveCode 9.x.x supports macOS 10.9 (Mavericks) through 10.15 (Catalina). For our app built on LC9.x.x, we support those versions of macOS as well. However, a Notarized DMG (one way of addressing Apple's Notarization requirement) will only open on Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, or Catalina (10.12-10.15). For 10.9, 10.10, and 10.11 a Notarized DMG presents an error and will not open. So now we have to guide out macOS customers to self-select one of two downloadable DMGs - one for earlier versions of macOS and a different one for later versions. In our case, we just do a regular signed app and signed DMG for 10.9 through 10.14 (Mojave) and a notarized DMG (with a signed app) for 10.15 Catalina An, yes, no matter how "clear" we think our guidance is, we have people download the wrong DMG. On 11/5/2019 5:01 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Hello, I just installed LC Indy 9.5.0. on MacOS 10.15 Catalina I can't start LC Indy. My Mac tells me: "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0 can't be opened, because Apple can't search for malware in this app." This software has to be updated. Probably this was already a question on this list, but I couldn't find the answer, what I have to do. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
The new recension of MacOS does seem to resemble that island off the coast of California in more ways that just its name: also a bit rocky and hard-going to cultivate anything on its barren slopes. I have certainly had no problems of this sort on MacOS 10.14.6; and I honestly think I'll stay with that version until I am pushed so hard against the wall I have no choice but to upgrade. Richmond. On 5.11.19 12:01, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote: Hello, I just installed LC Indy 9.5.0. on MacOS 10.15 Catalina I can't start LC Indy. My Mac tells me: "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0 can't be opened, because Apple can't search for malware in this app." This software has to be updated. Probably this was already a question on this list, but I couldn't find the answer, what I have to do. Thank you Tiemo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: server push to desktop client
Phil Davis wrote: > I need to make a desktop app (Mac only for now) that receives pushed > data from a LC server. I've never done this - all the desktop <-> > server interactions I've programmed have used the traditional client- > server model. So I'm looking for approaches/tips/ideas from anyone > who has experience with other approaches. I'd stick with simple polling for this. Anything else requires either opening a socket (with all the firewall/router changes needed to allow that), or creating a dependency on a separate process like push notifications, which would likely require LCB. Polling can get the job done well enough, and is secure and requires no router changes or external dependencies. And if down the road you find a convenient way to switch to something else you can change that part, but at least it lets you get it out the door now using reliable features and your existing skillset. > And maybe I'm making it too hard. Can FTP watch a server folder, and > detect and respond to the creation of a file in the folder? Maybe I > could use a method like that, if that's a capability of FTP. You could poll from the client using FTP, but compared to HTTP it's a noisy protocol, with many more steps internally. The inefficiency of FTP is more than offset by its utility when ad hoc access to remote file stores are needed. But when the goal is more specific, HTTP will often beat it for both efficiency and client implementation cost every time. On the server, an LC Server script that reports any changes to a folder from the last time it was called would be straightforward to write, give you reliably consistent results*, and would run quickly. * Years ago when I was monitoring folders with FTP I learned more than I cared to about FTP date representations. They vary. A lot. By different rules, according to a vastly flexible set of config options. So you can never know which server will use month-and-day only up to a certain cutoff, and then one of several month-day-year options for anything older. Sometimes the cuttoff is a month. Sometimes it's the year break. Other times it's a specific number of days. "Hey man, it's all about flexibility!" In all cases it can mean a listing in which date representations take on at least two different formats. Even if you just had LC Server return "the detailed files" at least you'd have solid consistency in the format of every file, every time. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
Interesting stuff. "But writing in LC means that you have to master concepts and algorithms" I wonder which programming language (and I don't mean block-based baby-hits-the-Lego-bricks stuff) does not involve mastering concepts and algorithms. One of the things that has slightly annoyed me in every single discussion I have seen about learning and teaching programming in the last 25 years was the assumption that somehow one could have a "free lunch." You can't! Learning any new skill (driving a tractor?) involves mastering concepts. Most of the attempts at dumbing down have resulted in . . . wait for it . . . dumb stuff. When BASIC was developed there was no attempt to dumb things down; just make the learning curve not like the sort of exponential cliff that put off lots and lots of kids prior to that. LiveCode does not dumb things down, but its learning curve is one "h" shallower than Python, C++ and all the other "usual suspects." Notwithstanding its shallow learning curve, no-one is going to get very far if they behaved like me in the market in Jeddah (KSA) in 1996; "taxi, flat, help." (Actually I did get quite far, as the people in the market felt so sorry for me with my non-existent Arabic that they gave me a sandwich and a cup of coffee.) This was one of the main reasons why, very quickly, I got my head round a few Arabic verbs. "The so called universal language was announced to be a possibility in LC to enhance the language but also, as announced, to translate it in other languages (like french) for kids with french words and expressions for example." Sacre "oink". C'est un projet impossible, Je pense. When I read/hear the phrase "universal language" I start thinking of Esperanto and Volupak . . . need I say more? Why don't the Francophones put down their glasses of pastis and design their own object-oriented programming language, forbye? Well, just possibly because, like it or not, the English-speaking world seem to be rather well ahead of everyone else in terms of computer programming languages. This could be due to an awful lot of European ennui. Why did Linus Torvalds not do "his stuff" in Finnish, and why does he and his family live in California? Go figure. Je n'ai aucune sympathie pour les gens qui n'a pas un peu de langue Anglais (Ouf, J'ai lu un livre de Denis Diderot hier, et dans le Francais de Diderot il ecrivait "Anglois.") un jeune qui est un monoglot est un infirme. There, you see; I've got crappy French, so why can't other people have crappy English? On 5.11.19 10:37, Georges Malamoud via use-livecode wrote: There are many good reasons to learn another language, ranging from the well-proven neurological benefits of multiple languages to the simple common courtesy of doing so - but in straightforward "increase in ability to communicate" I'm unconvinced that an English speaker gains enough to justify the effort. Hello. I am french and an active person for cultural and linguistic diversity, not only for french speaking (francophone )countries :) To speak several languages is a way to become richer, more open and versatile. Those who prefer to master only one language are ok but they are also sometimes closed to other cultures and, if it is not a problem for them, then it can be a problem for the others, the strangers. Those who would like to understand several languages, but cannot, are more open to cultural diversity. It is often a matter of choice. On the competitive market, it is best to speak several languages, of course. For me the best multicultural meeting is when each one speaks its own language (2 or 3) and everybody understand the others, because it is easier to understand that to speak. Those who measure their efforts in this matter are just losing ground. Have you seen several people speaking english with very different backgrounds (even in the same country) ? This can be a big source of problems in international meetings ;) Coming back to Livecode, two points : - LC is easier to read than to write because of its long sentences. It is a huge quality. But writing in LC means that you have to master concepts and algorithms and particularities of this loved and ç§&@!?’ed language. Easier if you know several computer languages. Fight for the computer language diversity also ! - The so called universal language was announced to be a possibility in LC to enhance the language but also, as announced, to translate it in other languages (like french) for kids with french words and expressions for example. Where are we on this subject ? Nowhere, it seems to me ! Too bad... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list
Learning from scratch - any recommendations? [with OT additions]
>> There are many good reasons to learn another language, ranging from the >> well-proven neurological benefits of multiple languages to the simple common >> courtesy of doing so - but in straightforward "increase in ability to >> communicate" I'm unconvinced that an English speaker gains enough to justify >> the effort. Hello. I am french and an active person for cultural and linguistic diversity, not only for french speaking (francophone )countries :) To speak several languages is a way to become richer, more open and versatile. Those who prefer to master only one language are ok but they are also sometimes closed to other cultures and, if it is not a problem for them, then it can be a problem for the others, the strangers. Those who would like to understand several languages, but cannot, are more open to cultural diversity. It is often a matter of choice. On the competitive market, it is best to speak several languages, of course. For me the best multicultural meeting is when each one speaks its own language (2 or 3) and everybody understand the others, because it is easier to understand that to speak. Those who measure their efforts in this matter are just losing ground. Have you seen several people speaking english with very different backgrounds (even in the same country) ? This can be a big source of problems in international meetings ;) Coming back to Livecode, two points : - LC is easier to read than to write because of its long sentences. It is a huge quality. But writing in LC means that you have to master concepts and algorithms and particularities of this loved and ç§&@!?’ed language. Easier if you know several computer languages. Fight for the computer language diversity also ! - The so called universal language was announced to be a possibility in LC to enhance the language but also, as announced, to translate it in other languages (like french) for kids with french words and expressions for example. Where are we on this subject ? Nowhere, it seems to me ! Too bad... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
Hello Tiemo, This is shown because you are on Catalina and the app is not notarised. You should be able to add this app to the "exceptions" list by going to the System Settings -> Security and Privacy, and then click "Open Anyway" I am still on Mojave, so have not tested this, but it should work, see more details in: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491 Kind regards, Panos -- On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 12:03, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hello, > > > > I just installed LC Indy 9.5.0. on MacOS 10.15 Catalina > > > > I can't start LC Indy. My Mac tells me: > > "LiveCode Indy 9.5.0 can't be opened, because Apple can't search for > malware > in this app." This software has to be updated. > > > > Probably this was already a question on this list, but I couldn't find the > answer, what I have to do. > > > > Thank you > > > > Tiemo > > > > > > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Thermal printer bluetooth
Why does LC not support Bluetooth. I want to use a thermal printer for my application. I use LC for Android but I found a problem using Bluetooth for Android. whether LC cannot be used for printers with Bluetooth? Thanks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
This is not limited to LC. When downloading drivers for MacOS from the Toshiba site, guess what you see? One link for drivers prior to a certain version of the OS, and another for later versions. It may be an annoyance, but it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer. RunRev won't be able to fix this so that we have one unified installer. Bob S > On Nov 5, 2019, at 05:15 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: > > One annoyance from Catalina and Notarization for me as a developer: > > LiveCode 9.x.x supports macOS 10.9 (Mavericks) through 10.15 (Catalina). For > our app built on LC9.x.x, we support those versions of macOS as well. > However, a Notarized DMG (one way of addressing Apple's Notarization > requirement) will only open on Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, or Catalina > (10.12-10.15). For 10.9, 10.10, and 10.11 a Notarized DMG presents an error > and will not open. > > So now we have to guide out macOS customers to self-select one of two > downloadable DMGs - one for earlier versions of macOS and a different one for > later versions. In our case, we just do a regular signed app and signed DMG > for 10.9 through 10.14 (Mojave) and a notarized DMG (with a signed app) for > 10.15 Catalina > > An, yes, no matter how "clear" we think our guidance is, we have people > download the wrong DMG. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a gigantic lie that is the cause. And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. This is not limited to LC. When downloading drivers for MacOS from the Toshiba site, guess what you see? One link for drivers prior to a certain version of the OS, and another for later versions. It may be an annoyance, but it's one everyone is experiencing for any installer. RunRev won't be able to fix this so that we have one unified installer. Bob S On Nov 5, 2019, at 05:15 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode wrote: One annoyance from Catalina and Notarization for me as a developer: LiveCode 9.x.x supports macOS 10.9 (Mavericks) through 10.15 (Catalina). For our app built on LC9.x.x, we support those versions of macOS as well. However, a Notarized DMG (one way of addressing Apple's Notarization requirement) will only open on Sierra, High Sierra, Mojave, or Catalina (10.12-10.15). For 10.9, 10.10, and 10.11 a Notarized DMG presents an error and will not open. So now we have to guide out macOS customers to self-select one of two downloadable DMGs - one for earlier versions of macOS and a different one for later versions. In our case, we just do a regular signed app and signed DMG for 10.9 through 10.14 (Mojave) and a notarized DMG (with a signed app) for 10.15 Catalina An, yes, no matter how "clear" we think our guidance is, we have people download the wrong DMG. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Indy 9.5.0. Apple can't search for malware in LC Indy?
But the installers for drivers and the installer you want to use are not different. And what else does anyone have to go on but their experiences, and other people's experiences? I need to tap into that resource! ;-) Bob S > On Nov 5, 2019, at 08:18 , Paul Dupuis via use-livecode > wrote: > > On 11/5/2019 10:41 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: > First, your assumption that "it's one everyone is experiencing for any > installer" is exactly that, an assumption based on your experiences. > > The vast majority of our customers are computer novices and anything but the > simplest of steps can cause them problems. Most do not know what version of > macOS they run, nor how to tell what version they are running. > > Second, I was not calling for RunRev to "fix" this. It is clearly Apple's > inane drive for marketing a level or privacy and security that is mostly a > gigantic lie that is the cause. > > And thirdly, drivers are a bit different than research apps. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Android Sleep
" Is it sleeping when you're interacting with it, or just running with no interaction?" -- running with no interaction Some "modules" (stacks) in the app guide the user through a practice, let say, e.g. - do A for 5 second, - (there is a countdown timer showing "1,2,3,4,5" on the screen) - do B for 5 second - hold for 1 second - repeat above 5 time Throughout, the user does not have to touch the screen LC is running "procedure" and displaying count down (or count ups) on the screen. simply put, its equivalent to running a stopwatch on the phone Ideally, 1) the user doesn't "interact" with the phone. 2) BUT, the phone doesn’t go sleep…until the "cycle is over" Does your video payback APIs do the same? Testing on iPhone: -- set for auto lock in 30 seconds -- go to the stopwatch, start it running. -- the phone will not sleep (auto lock) as long as it is running. I have tried it… running 5 minutes. No sleep -- it only goes to sleep if you pause or stop. that the behavior we a looking for... == Richard wrote: When it's running without interaction, what is it doing for 30 seconds while the user is idle? I video media playback APIs keep the screen active. Beyond that, if the user isn't using the device Android will use the threshold you've set to conserve power. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Thermal printer bluetooth
Hi , Could you post a simple example . Write “Hello” to a device using mergBLE ? Regards Camm > On 5 Nov 2019, at 12:19, Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode > wrote: > > Not sure of the current status but a couple of years ago I had excellent > results using the mergBLE extensions - I was able to do both high- and low- > level bluetooth things on Mac and on iOS. http://mergext.com/home/mergble/ > > I can't recall - when Monte joined LiveCode, did the mergExt package get > rolled in somehow? > > Ben > >> On 05/11/2019 11:46, General 2018 via use-livecode wrote: >> Hi , >> Something we need on LC Mac , LC Android and LC IOS also. >> Bluetooth and USB works fine on LC Windows using Virtual Com port. >> Serial over USB. >> Serial over Bluetooth. >> Unfortunately no current cross platform solution with LC which would open up >> solution for all those apps that communicate with external hardware if put >> right. >> Regards Camm >>> On 5 Nov 2019, at 11:17, Riko Abdul via use-livecode >>> wrote: >>> >>> Why does LC not support Bluetooth. I want to use a thermal printer for my >>> application. I use LC for Android but I found a problem using Bluetooth for >>> Android. whether LC cannot be used for printers with Bluetooth? >>> >>> Thanks > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
