Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread David Squance via use-livecode
Thanks for the confirmation. Dave > On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:05 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > You’re right, David. I was specifically addressing standalones for Mac, > Windows and Linux. They are easily created without licenses etc. for use on > your own computer, but cannot be

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
You’re right, David. I was specifically addressing standalones for Mac, Windows and Linux. They are easily created without licenses etc. for use on your own computer, but cannot be distributed w/o licenses etc Roger > On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:39 PM, David Squance via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: [bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
I created a little "leak test" stack that runs the "leaks" shell command against the processID of the LC engine that runs the stack. It checks for new leaks every 60 seconds and lists the number and size of each new leak found. I'm running it in LC 9.6.1 on 3 Macs right now - Catalina, High Sierra

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Yes, that’s probably the best answer so far. I just think it’s a little bit harder to convince someone to download Livecode community than to pick up a cute little app from the app store specifically designed to run standalones. Just a stupid idea I guess. Roger > On Mar 26, 2021, at 9:28

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread David Squance via use-livecode
It was my understanding that iOS apps can’t even be created without a license from Apple. Mostly what I would want to share would be games I made for my grandson and he only uses iOS devices. I’ve never tried making a standalone for iOS, even for testing, because I didn’t think I could. Is

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
Couldn’t your stack hide the IDE stuff on launch and just have them install the community IDE? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Roger Guay via use-livecode > wrote: > > In the good ol days, I could build a standalone for the Mac, Windows and > Linux and distribute it

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
In the good ol days, I could build a standalone for the Mac, Windows and Linux and distribute it willy-nilly. Now I have to jump thru intolerable hoops (at least for the Mac) to give someone my standalone. if someone (hint. . .hint) could build a Livecode reader app for dirt cheap or even free

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 27/03/2021 00:35, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> >> What are you looking for? When were these "good ol days" in which >> one could run stack files without an engine, and how did that work? >> > I can describe what I would like; that may be similar to what

Re: [bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread John Balgenorth via use-livecode
I am not personally using Bug Sur but if you make a standalone does it leak memory too or is this only with the development system? JB > On Mar 26, 2021, at 7:29 PM, scott--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > I’m running Big Sur and just got a warning from the OS that I was out of >

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread ELS Prothero via use-livecode
Folks, That sounds pretty interesting. Wouldn’t that be doable by creating a splash stack the looked for a stack to launch in its folder. That stack would be the app. But I don’t know if a stand-alone compiled splash stack could call and run a raw xxx.livecode stack. Can it? Best, Bill

Re: [bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
I’m running Big Sur and just got a warning from the OS that I was out of application memory. Livecode was using 133.52 GB of memory. It had been open for a couple days but it wasn’t doing anything. -- Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread John Balgenorth via use-livecode
It sounds to me that what you want is a version of the development system without the ability to code or develop stacks. Is that what HyperCard Player did for hyperCard stacks? Richard should know of SuperCard could do it. JB > On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode >

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 27/03/2021 00:35, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: What are you looking for?  When were these "good ol days" in which one could run stack files without an engine, and how did that work? I can describe what I would like; that may be similar to what Roger is looking for. Or it may

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Roger Guay wrote: > I guess I’m just thick headed, Richard, but I don’t know how anything > you said solves my problem. Say I want to share a standalone with my > wife or a friend. How can I do that easily like the good ol days? It seems I'm the one who didn't understand. Here you're asking

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
I guess I’m just thick headed, Richard, but I don’t know how anything you said solves my problem. Say I want to share a standalone with my wife or a friend. How can I do that easily like the good ol days? Roger > On Mar 26, 2021, at 3:54 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > >

Re: New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Roger Guay wrote: > Has anyone thought of building a “legal” and “blessed" app for > Mac, WIndows and Linux that would open standalones for for each > of those platforms? Why put each of us through the agony (and > expense) of shifting/changing requirements to be able to easily > distribute

New(?) Idea for Standalones

2021-03-26 Thread Roger Guay via use-livecode
Has anyone thought of building a “legal” and “blessed" app for Mac, WIndows and Linux that would open standalones for for each of those platforms? Why put each of us through the agony (and expense) of shifting/changing requirements to be able to easily distribute standalones? Just as Microsoft

Re: Android error messages are crap

2021-03-26 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
I use Oracle's JDK 1.8.*, never have a problem with it. Sometimes there is a hint in the error adb message Op 26-3-2021 om 15:17 schreef Andre Garzia via use-livecode: Dear Panos, When I selected the sdk path in Android Studio, it didn’t populate the JDK path. I downloaded the OpenJDK

Re: Android error messages are crap

2021-03-26 Thread JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode
Java is not installed with Android Studio, you need either Oracle's or OpenJDK Op 26-3-2021 om 15:17 schreef Andre Garzia via use-livecode: Dear Panos, When I selected the sdk path in Android Studio, it didn’t populate the JDK path. I downloaded the OpenJDK separately and placed it in

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Just found 4 emails in my Spam (spam spam , spam spam - spam spam spamspAAAm wonderful SPaaAAM) Box - they were never going there before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duFierM1yDg Full in Stereo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrZyZn5nVks On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 at 16:28, Heather Laine via

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
:) I was aware for several days that we'd usurped the topic but on the other hand, it was indeed this week in LC and now due to end. If anyone else wants to add a comment, now is the last day. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Tom Glod via use-livecode
I love Livecode but they are comical at marketing. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 10:36 AM Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Yes, it happened yesterday (and I enjoyed it, and as always learnt > something), and it will again today. > > I'd email Heather

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Heather Laine via use-livecode
Dear Sean, I am not aware of any emails from you. I strongly suspect this indicates a spam filter at work. You should have registration emails regarding the events. I'll check and resend. Please confirm if/when you get them. Offlist of course. Regards, Heather Heather Laine Customer

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Randy Hengst via use-livecode
The advanced session has begun. > On Mar 26, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > Heather has not been replying to my messages and I received no notification > about the events. Thats another bunch of money wasted with LC. They are > amazing! > > Sean Cole > *Pi

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Heather has not been replying to my messages and I received no notification about the events. Thats another bunch of money wasted with LC. They are amazing! Sean Cole *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* www.pidigital.co.uk +44(1634)402193 +44(7702)116447 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just

Re: Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Yes, it happened yesterday (and I enjoyed it, and as always learnt something), and it will again today. I'd email Heather (support@...) - and maybe mark it urgent if you want to get in in the next hour. Alex. On 26/03/2021 14:18, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote: HI All, I purchase both

Does anybody know if the Livecode Global happened yesterday?

2021-03-26 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
HI All, I purchase both the beginner and advanced courses (gotta have the set ;-) ) I filled in the questionnaire/registering email that was sent a few weeks ago, and since . nothing. -- KIndest Regards Lagi ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Android error messages are crap

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Dear Panos, When I selected the sdk path in Android Studio, it didn’t populate the JDK path. I downloaded the OpenJDK separately and placed it in /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/, relaunched LiveCode and it was detected fine after that. That JavaVirtualMachines folder was empty after

Re: Android error messages are crap

2021-03-26 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Andre, Have you downloaded OpenJDK separately? I think it is bundled in Android Studio. The error sounds related to Java / JDK, so could it be the case you have multiple Java installations in your machine, and LC is not picking the right one? What are the contents of

Android error messages are crap

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
So, I’m trying to set this machine for Android development. I have Android Studio, I’ve downloaded the needed SDKs and I’ve got the latest OpenJDK which appears to be jdk16. Now, when I go and try pressing test on the IDE to test it on the device (which is authorized and appearing fine as a

Re: [bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Sean, The stack was not running anything. It was simply opened. I don’t believe it would leak like that. Anyway, I’m monitoring to see if it happens again. A > On 26 Mar 2021, at 13:01, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode > wrote: > > Wow, Andre, that's impressive. That amounts to about 34MB

Re: [bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Wow, Andre, that's impressive. That amounts to about 34MB per minute over 48hrs. I've had a pretty massive stack (226MB file at the moment) on my Mac sitting here over the last week. Looking in the activity monitor, LC has 987MB associated with it. and watching it over a period of time it remains

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 25 Mar 2021, at 23:29, james--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > I went for a bike ride this morning. > > Just thought I would add a post under this subject that is no longer really > related to the subject anymore. > > Didn’t want to feel left out ;-) > huahuahuaahuahuahuahuaahuahu

[bug] strange memory leak in LC

2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
I have no idea what happened. I’m running LC 9.6.2-rc-3 on macOS Big Sur on M1 ISA (so it is running under Rosetta 2). I kept the IDE opened for a couple days, I was working on a gaziliion stacks at the same time and was not yet ready to close them. The stacks were not doing anything, they