Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dave Kilroy wrote: > My instinct would be to build on revIgniter rather than start another > (possibly competing) project - I would be much more likely to > contribute to an enriched revIgniter than to two disjointed projects revIgniter is one of the best open source projects in the LiveCode co

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dave Kilroy wrote: > Well of course if you put it that way I don’t want to do anything to > discourage exploration, let a 1,000 flowers bloom etc and I’d love > to see a LC CMS > > However our community IS a lot smaller than Python’s... I am sometimes prone to fits of optimism. :) -- Richard G

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > Thinking about this further... > > Could we set up LiveCode to run on a VPS, so it is always live and > listening to a port. When a request comes in, it would use TSnet to > send an asynchronous request to a local database. When TSnet gets the > callback, it passes the dat

Re: Livecode Content Management System

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia work: > So far, most of our web efforts have been "PHP-inspired", as in our > server engine behaves like PHP and our frameworks look and feel like > PHP frameworks. Thank you for bringing that up. There are a great many design decisions with the LC Server CGI that do mirror the PH

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: ... >> I don't even think we'd need tsNet for that. Sockets should suffice >> for communicating between backend services, and using the "with >> messages" op

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jonathandlynch wrote: > Hi Richard and Andre - thanks for your replies. I was the one who > mentioned millions of users at the same time, not out of drunkenness > but because I wanted to understand the upper limits of these systems. Scaling is a fascinating problem. I found the C10k problem a g

Re: Why is node.js faster than LC server?

2017-12-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > Some other languages support full threads and some even allow you to > fork(). Can you describe what you mean by fork() here? In a discussion a while back I made reference to an earlier post you'd made about fork(), but the response from the engine team left me with the

LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I have some tools I developed for server apps, which allow me to develop and test both client and server within the same local LC IDE instance. As you can imagine, this has improved development efficiency by orders of magnitude. It's much a much more xTalk-like way of working, and once you use

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Simon Smith wrote: > Personally I do prefer to mix HTML / code together. If you mix them together with the implied extended merge of LC Server rather than an explicit merge with LC Script, I'm afraid nothing in my toolkit can help. > I don't think it right to say it is a PHP way to do thing

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Simon Smith wrote: > PHP is definitely the most popular language for letting you code this > way, but then it is pretty much only for the web unlike most other > languages. > > Other languages can work this way too - e.g. Python has PSP, Java has > JSP as does Ruby, Lua etc. but not as popular as

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > If it were up to me to run On-Rev, I would make > sure that it was always up to date, or offered > easy ways to keep everything up to date. You’d > never hear me threaten anyone to take away their > account if they didn’t keep some piece of software > up to date. If that

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > Hi Richard, > >> You use Wordpress. > > After exploring Wordpress a couple of years ago I decided not use > Wordpress. > I do not use Wordpress. My bad, though earnestly I must admit I don't understand this thread: if we're not talking about Wordpress, what are we talking

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 06/12/2017 19:14, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> >> There's a difference in terms of the primary execution object, and >> how that effects the flow of both execution and the workflow. >> >> It seems I'm unable to a

Re: Map Widget Futures

2017-12-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Ali Lloyd wrote: > ...make the map widget a lot more flexible on the > objective-c side... iOS-only? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@f

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Hall wrote: > I’m very interested in your tools and suspect there is great value in > what you’ve created. I appreciate the interest, but it doesn't seem using these tools would be possible for most folks. Being able to run client and server code in the IDE would require using methods th

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks for chiming in, Mark. The background your provide is always helpful. Mark Waddingham wrote: > Also, the server-specific syntax isn't present in the IDE engine which > also poses a difficulty. Would it be possible/practical to extend the merge function to at least allow things like cont

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > FWIW Drupal is not free! Drupal is absolutely free: https://www.drupal.org/about/licensing > horror story, no in-house expertise, smart but "secretary" level user, > had to hire drupal support, 3rd party module dependencies, developers > disappear, core eng

Re: LC Server style survey: co-mingle code w/HTML?

2017-12-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > Human readable conversion would be easier if multi-line strings were > supported (without the manual splitting currently needed). This would > allow a single put statement between LC blocks of code and no need to > fuss about quote characters. Like bash's heredoc: http://qu

Re: can´t save Standalone

2017-12-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Hillen Richard wrote: > Using this proved datastack-method in the development environment, > it´s ok; > But after making a new standalone with "substacks moved in separate > stackfiles" if I press the Save-button in stack Data I get "can´t open > stack backup file". With most commands which may

Re: The Detailed and Long files

2017-12-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > In general, it is best for us to avoid introducing / making worse the > whole function/property synergy as any function which has a property > form reserves the name of the function - i.e. you can no longer use > that as a property of an object (whether custom, or engine)

Re: advertising,again, and is anyone actually making money from it?

2017-12-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I've tried to get this discussion going before, and failed. So > perhaps a crasser start: > > Is anyone actually making money from livecode app's advertising, > either iOS or android? > > If so, how did you get it done, who did you use, etc.? Good news: Roxio reported Ang

Re: advertising,again, and is anyone actually making money from it?

2017-12-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 12/11/2017 03:29 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > > I don't know, I'm one of the six people on earth who doesn't have > > or want a Facebook account > > I'm one of the other six. Never been tempted by it. If you develop apps for others to publish, that can

Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 12/12/2017 08:37 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: >> On 13 Dec 2017, at 12:43 pm, Mark Wieder wrote: >> On 12/12/2017 05:14 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote: Fraser?!? Are you back? Back to make libbrowser run on Raspi? :---))) >>> >>> https://github.com/l

Re: Tab alignment in fields

2017-12-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2017-12-13 19:57, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> I haven't been watching GH so I'm not familiar with those PRs. >> Before I get too excited, what does this mean for the LC RPi build? >> Will this become an officially supporte

Re: Interprocess Communication (IPC) under OSX

2017-12-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > I am using IPC vs Sockets... "IPC" is usually a generic term, encompassing a wide range of inter-process communications methods which includes sockets, files, shared memory, pipes, and more. Which IPC method are you using? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Softw

Re: Interprocess Communication (IPC) under OSX

2017-12-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > On 12/18/2017 1:49 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Which IPC method are you using? >> > Using LiveCode's open process (and related statements) vs open socket > (IP) or using files. > > I have a set of stacks that work perfe

Re: non-blocking http ... will tsnet end up in community?

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tom Glod wrote: > ...being unable to send more than one asyncronoys request to the same > server is highly limiting. Is it? DDoS tools aside , what APIs need more than one call at a time? And since LC is single-threaded, what do you anticipate doing with the data from the multiple requests as

Re: non-blocking http ... will tsnet end up in community?

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Excellent thinking, Charles. Thanks for chiming in. Most of my net work has been on projects where I deliver both client and server, so I've too often had the luxury of working with APIs of my own design. You raise some good considerations there. Given the value of multiple connections, beyo

Re: non-blocking http ... will tsnet end up in community?

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
andrew at midwestcoastmedia.com wrote: >> DDoS tools aside , what APIs need more than one call at a time? >> > > I can think of a use in my (relatively) simple Indiana On Tap mobile > app. Currently I fetch some mySQL data and download some images from a > HostM account through their SSL API. The

Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > Now would probably be a good time to plan on jumping ship and > switching to linux. Just sayin... Dive in, the water's fine. Anyone getting started using LC on Linux is encouraged to post questions you have along the way to the Linux section of the LC forums: http://foru

Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

2017-12-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > Both of my brothers use Surface laptops, even though they are both > mac/ios lovers. The latest Surface models are pretty awesome. Even most of my Linux friends want one, if only it didn't have enough MC-specific firmware to make a Linux install difficult. But no matter

Re: DoMenu not working right?

2017-12-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Dictionary states: doMenu menuItem [of menu menuName]. I state: select > button "Development";domenu "Object Inspector" of menu "Object". I > get: > Message execution error: > > Error description: Handler: can't find handler > > Hint: of > > ? The Dictionary also states:

DG2: How much is mobile-only?

2017-12-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
It seems the swiping in DG2 is mobile only - is that correct? What other DG2 goodies are currently only usable on a mobile device? The desktop has become very influenced by mobile design trends. Apple's even begun the move to integrate the two. And the desktop is still where businesses bet

Re: DG2: How much is mobile-only?

2017-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tom Glod wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> > It seems the swiping in DG2 is mobile only - is that correct? >> > What other DG2 goodies are currently only usable on a mobile >> > device? ... > from what I know the LC engine does not yet do touch in desktop > s

Re: submitting to apple store and google store ... how much of that process can be automated?

2017-12-28 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Tom Glod wrote: > Hi, can someone with experience of submitting LC apps to the mobile > stores tell me whether the process can be made automatic? assuming > that the TOS are met and everything is kocher? > > I'm writing a proposal for a company to offer branded courtesy apps > to their business c

Re: Optimizing for small Android devices

2017-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > To what extent we can realistically fit this app onto a phone with > only 1GB of RAM… I don't know. "Only"? That's a lot of phones -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World S

Re: Optimizing for small Android devices

2017-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > I would not even know where to start to understand what to what extent > an app is overloading RAM on Android. How do we measure this stuff. Settings -> Developer Options -> Running services That brings up a simple list of processes in memory, noting among o

Re: Optimizing for small Android devices

2017-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
While looking for one of the URLs I included in my last post, I came across this: How we reduced our Android app’s memory footprint by 50% I have no idea if those strategies would make sen

Re: Dissolve/Transitions Very Costly

2017-12-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami wrote: > Yikes! 2.5 seconds for dissolve very fast on a 120k image… > > given the new look and feel of apps where transitions are *everywhere* … this takes waaay to long… > > is there any way to optimize this? Effect durations can be normalized and fine-tuned using t

Re: Uninstaller question

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Rick Harrison wrote: > Never recommend Mac Keeper or Mac Cleaner as they > are considered to be Malware/Spyware/Annoyance-ware > and are difficult for some users to eradicate. Add Kaspersky to that list: UK cyber security chief warns government against using Kaspersky

Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Ben Rubinstein wrote: I'm coming to this late, but it looks to me as if the list got into a nightmare mode a bit prematurely. What the article actually talks about is a way to create apps which can be used across 'desktop' and mobile operating systems - specifically *not* about merging those ope

Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
many occasions, "It is always a > mistake, my dear Watson, to guess. Invariably you will find yourself > attempting to fit the facts to your theories, instead of forming your > theories to fit the facts." > > Bob S > > >> On Jan 2, 2018, at 09:37 , Richard Gaskin

Re: [off] Apple to unify ios/macos apps next year

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > I'm not saying our hackles shouldn't be raised, I'm simply proposing > that if conclusive proof existed which undeniably indicted Kaspersky > of this kind of activity, When you read the details of the reports you'll see the "conclusive proof" part is going to be hard to get

Re: Free SVG icons

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/2/18 6:05 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: >> Alas, I can't load these icons into LC. They don't have the usual >> "moveTo" commands. :( > > So I took a screenshot and ran it through an online PNG-SVG converter. > That works, but it would be nice if LC could

Re: Free SVG icons

2018-01-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > The one I was working with was the calendar icon. There are only line > commands in it, no moveTo. I don't see a way to deal with that. How do other programs deal with that? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile,

Re: Mac 64 bit?

2018-01-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Graham Samuel wrote: >>> I notice using LC 8.1.8 (the latest stable release AFAIK) that in >>> the Standalone Application Settings, building for Mac OS X is still >>> described as EXPERIMENTAL. Is this right? Has anyone experienced any >>> gotchas by using this type of build? In reality I don’t kn

Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 172, Issue 22

2018-01-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richard Burkett wrote: > on mouseUp >put fld "myField" into tClip >lock the clipBoard >set the ClipboardData to empty >set the ClipboardData to tClip >put the clipboardData["text"] into tClip >set the rawclipBoardData to empty >if the platform is "MacOS" then > s

Roadmap: "Automated REST API wrapping"?

2018-01-16 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
The LC Roadmap at includes under "Planned": Automated REST API wrapping Sounds enticing. What is it? And is there even a loose, no-I-won't-hold-you-to-it-but-just-curious target version? If it's what I think it is it may be a real boon to getting

Re: Roadmap: "Automated REST API wrapping"?

2018-01-16 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> The LC Roadmap at includes >> under "Planned": >> >> Automated REST API wrapping >> >> Sounds enticing. What is it? >> And is there even a loose, no-I-won't-hold-you-to-it

Re: deploying to multiple mobile devices

2018-01-16 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Nicolas Cueto wrote: > Some of my stacks are for a classroom situation, so would like to > deploy to the various smartphones of class sizes of 3 to 20 students > (1) preferably cable-free (Wifi?), (2) easily for the end-user, and > (3) as simultaneously as possible. Is this a classroom you wor

Re: Anyone else got two-monitor issues with LC9 on Mac?

2018-01-17 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: > Just to add that when you change the arrangement of the two monitors > in the System Prefs so as their tops are aligned, it might be worth to > reset your LC Prefs as well after that, as it might be the case that > some stacks have kept their *old* rect Prefs (i.e. *be

Re: deploying to multiple mobile devices

2018-01-17 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Nicolas Cueto wrote: > On 17 January 2018 at 12:38, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Nicolas Cueto wrote: >> > Some of my stacks are for a classroom situation, so would like to >> > deploy to the various smartphones of class sizes of 3 to 20 >> > students (1) preferably cable-free (Wifi?), (2) easily

Re: Roadmap: "Automated REST API wrapping"?

2018-01-17 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2018-01-17 04:29, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >>> The LC Roadmap at <https://livecode.com/resources/roadmap/> includes >>> under "Planned": >>> >>> Automated REST API wrapping >>> >>>

Re: Roadmap: "Automated REST API wrapping"?

2018-01-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2018-01-17 04:29, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> The LC Roadmap at <https://livecode.com/resources/roadmap/> includes >> under "Planned": >> >> Automated REST API wrapping >> >> Sounds enticing.

Re: Roadmap: "Automated REST API wrapping"?

2018-01-18 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: Mark Waddingham wrote: > On 2018-01-17 04:29, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> The LC Roadmap at <https://livecode.com/resources/roadmap/> includes >> under "Planned": >> &g

Re: OT - What linux do you recommend for older PCs?

2018-01-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Matthias Rebbe wrote: > I have here an old Asus EeePC 1000H which currently runs with Windows > XP and which is not used very often. > It has an Intel Atom N270 CPU, 1GB ram and a 160GB harddisk. > > What Linux OS do you recommend for this machine? Best would be, if it > could be used also with L

Re: Crazy script-only stack question

2018-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Geoff Canyon wrote: > "the behavior of me" accomplishes the same thing as "this me" > in a behavior script, and is far more clear besides. Agreed, and there was a long thread about alternatives back when "this me" was proposed, but it's been around so long now that I doubt it's going away.

Re: OT - What linux do you recommend for older PCs?

2018-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
hh wrote: > I use Lubuntu/Xubuntu on my Raspis and have moreover my fastest > machine running with Mint-Cinnamon. > But I work with LiveCode only on Mac or Win. Whenever I make a widget > or use widgets I try for several hours to arrive at workarounds for > the linux version. Only that is a lot o

Re: OT - What linux do you recommend for older PCs?

2018-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I'm glad that worked out, Matthias. Linux can be every bit as easy to work with as other OSes when you get it like we get other OSes: pre-installed with the computer you purchased, with all the necessary drivers and configs set up for that particular hardware. Dell, Acer, System 76, ZaReason

Re: OT - What linux do you recommend for older PCs?

2018-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond Mathewson wrote: > "illegal": that's funny, I thought EULA thingies were not legally > binding. In what jurisdiction? > Although, to be honest, spending "all that bother" installing Mac OS > on a machine that isn't designed for it seems a bit pointless when > Linux works on almost any

mobile: pick image without importing?

2018-01-23 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Do we have a way to obtain a file path for an image on mobile? I see mobilePickImage, but it insists on importing a copy of the image, and what I'm really after is a reference to the image file. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile,

Re: use SSL inside Mysql connection

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Which version of mySQL? The Windows community version does not support > OpenSSL because of licensing restrictions. It uses some other flavor > of SSL, which I was never able to get to work. Why would licensing affect only Windows but not other proprietary OSes? -- Richard

Re: PHP vs LC server + 504 Gateway Timeout

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
jbv wrote: > On my on-rev account I have a LC script that calls a php script via > the shell, and the php dumps the content of a mySQL db. Then another > LC script (triggered later by another cgi request) builds a zip > archive (using revzip) of the dump + a few small files. > This scripts have be

Re: mobile: pick image without importing?

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:16 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> Do we have a way to obtain a file path for an image on mobile? >> >> I see mobilePickImage, but it insists on importing a copy of the >> image, and what I'm really after is a reference to the image file. > > I’m not

Re: mobile: pick image without importing?

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
hh wrote: > Of course sandboxed files only. Getting file locations (or listings) > outside of that is violating privacy. Who is interested in that? App developers who ask the user's permission for access, just like we do for audio and video files which (thankfully) can be referenced without re

Good pinch-to-zoom in image object?

2018-01-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
There's a Lesson at the LC site on doing pinch-to-zoom with images, but it's kinda wonky (zooms okay, but at object center rather than touchpoint), and as I hunt around I see most people just give up an use a browser object. I have an app in which I'd rather not add the overhead of embedding a

Re: Good pinch-to-zoom in image object?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > Here's what I came up with. It is a little slow though. It's pretty > much a port of the code that I linked. I had to adapt to the way move > events are issued in LC (particularly that a touch start does not > include coordinates). I also added the ability to continue mov

Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I have the orientation on my phone locked to portrait. I'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who locks their orientation. LiveCode is the only app on my phone that doesn't respect a locked orientation, freely jiggling around as I rotate my phone. I can lock the orientation within my a

Re: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Thanks, Ralph. Looks like a bug then - reported: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20916 -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Ralph DiMola wrote: Richard, LC apps in iOS do respect the lock. This an Android only problem. Ralph DiMola -Original Message- I have the ori

Re: Good pinch-to-zoom in image object?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
All this has me wondering: Have you ever seen a mobile app that displays images but *doesn't* support pinch-to-zoom? I'm grateful Brian stepped up to the plate here, but what if a newcomer to the language wanted this very common feature and didn't know to ask here? How long would it take som

Re: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 1/27/18 3:43 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Thanks, Ralph. Looks like a bug then - reported: >> http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20916 >> > > I'd have to think about this. If the alternative is to only have

Re: Good pinch-to-zoom in image object?

2018-01-27 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Alex Tweedly wrote: > On 27/01/2018 22:51, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> All this has me wondering: Have you ever seen a mobile app that >> displays images but *doesn't* support pinch-to-zoom? >> > Ummm - on IOS I can think of (I've just re-tested

making DG2 usable

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
The new DG2 has some great features, but on my phone its performance makes it unusable. Scrolling is painfully slow, the reordering and deleting slow enough to feel wonky. Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Is there some special combination of acceleratedRendering and/or other features I should

Re: making DG2 usable

2018-01-30 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Good to hear about anything that improves overall rendering performance. But as for DG2, am I the only one who finds it too wonky to use? I hope so. It's pretty cool, but too stuttery to foist on end-users. I'd like to believe it's just something in my setup, and that there's a way to use it

Re: making DG2 usable

2018-01-31 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > > On 31 Jan 2018, at 2:07 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > > But as for DG2, am I the only one who finds it too wonky to use? > > @Richard have you tried Bernd's modTableField as an alternative? I'm > deploying it in my second project, and it's pretty darn cool. And > fast.

Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

2018-02-02 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > I don't think you can use shell as non-blocking. You could use 'open > process' to spawn your command line utility off as a subprocess which > would be non blocking, but that approach has its own over head thing > to work around What additional overhead is incurred by runnin

Re: Pasting tabs into Excel

2018-02-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > More info on those 2 bugs: > > The first bug is about LC placing too much on the system clipboard. > Prior to 8, LC only put text+RTF on the clipboard. With 8, HTML was > added - LC ran everything through its internal conversion to LC styled > text and put LC HTMLtext on th

Re: any tricks to make SHELL non blocking?

2018-02-03 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Paul Dupuis wrote: > FYI we found that interapp communication via sockets is more reliable > cross-platform that via interprocess communication, but at some real > world customer sites, security setting can prohibit socket > communication even to the same computer where as IPC still works, so > a

Re: this session has lapsed?

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Stephen Barncard wrote: > My copy of LC 7.14 was installed activated days ago. Why am I getting > "this session has lapsed" messages, refusing to let me go on? > does this mean that LC "phones home" every time I start the app?? > Unacceptable, disturbing and annoying. I don't know if this is rel

Re: this session has lapsed?

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
as I run into issues upgrading to and using 8 or 9 due to my use of three screens. -- Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - mixstream.org On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: Stephen Barncard wrote: > My copy of LC

How to calm down the Standalone Builder?

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I've been tasked with resurrecting an old app that was last built with MetaCard. What I loved about MC was that it only did what I asked it to, so when it comes to building a standalone it couldn't be easier: it bound the engine to the stack file I wanted and that was it. If I wanted anything

SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I have "Show Default Handlers" checked in my SE, but I don't see them. Is this yet another case where I have to toss my prefs stack and then go back and restore all my settings to get this one thing to work, or is there a simpler way to show default handlers in the SE? -- Richard Gaskin Fou

Re: How to calm down the Standalone Builder?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > That is exactly what I was complaining about. Apparently when the SB > creates the duplicate stack, it uses that path and modifies the > original mainstack if you try to build again. Now I only build for one > platform, and then I quit and relaunch for each build operation. Th

Re: SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I have "Show Default Handlers" checked in my SE, but I don't see >> them. ... > Do you see the non-default handlers of the script? Yes. > If you see no handlers at all, then either there is a syntax error in

Re: How to calm down the Standalone Builder?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
J. Landman Gay wrote: > I'm not sure the problem is profiles. Do you have "search for > inclusions" selected? If so, the sb has to open every stack to search. > Even if you don't use any inclusions, it may be doing that anyway, and > also the ask and answer dialogs are always selected by default.

Re: SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: > I cannot reproduce this, tested on Ubuntu 16.04 with LC 9 DP-11. > > Could it be the case that there is a bad interaction with a Plugin? > > What happens if you try first to "put true into grevdevelopment" and > then uncheck and recheck "Show Default handlers"? > > If s

Re: SE: restore default handlers?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
panagiotis merakos wrote: Thanks Richard. So, a guess is that for some reason LC cannot open the sqlite database that holds all the dictionary entries, thus it cannot fetch the list of the default handlers per object. I am wondering if this is related to the other bug report you have filed, where

LCS vs PHP speed test?

2018-02-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Has anyone here had occasion to test relative speed of LC Server vs PHP for common tasks (file I/O, array splits, parsing, etc.)? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web __

[Semi-OT]APK size and conversions

2018-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Shrinking APKs, growing installs How your app’s APK size impacts install conversion rates -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

Re: Put URL into variable and textEncoding

2018-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Given the nearly-universal use of UTF-8, it would seem ideal for a language focusing on ease of use if that could be made a default. I can understand why we can't use "open tFile for text..." given the legacy, but maybe something like "open tFile for modernText..." or something more sensible.

Re: Put URL into variable and textEncoding

2018-02-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 13 Feb 2018, at 11:56 am, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> something more sensible > > We already have: > > open file for “utf-8” text > > There was some discussion of implementing “file+:/path > /to/file” style urls to avoid having to use binfile and textDecode > and manual l

Inspector - resizable or not?

2018-02-13 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sometimes the Inspector is resizable. Other times it's really small and I have to scroll around. Is there a preference setting for this? Is it a known bug? Unknown bug? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ___

Re: Livecode.com server down

2018-02-16 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > > Cloudflare > https://www.cloudflare.com/ddos/ > I believe they use Cloudflare. But Q4 2016 taught us Cloudflare alone is no panacea. https://www.wired.com/2016/10/internet-outage-ddos-dns-dyn/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/cloudflare-notes-ddos-attack-thanks

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm not sure how much work it's going to be to rewrite anything, > though (which is why I'm curious to hear what others think before > I decide to move something big and get stuck). Levure appears to offer a very good framework. The LC IDE offers another set of useful idea

Re: LiveCode Widget Factory

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Todd Fabacher wrote: > As Kevin announced before... Where was this announced? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscr

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > The ST integration is one of the things that is really slick about > Levure. "ST"? A quick Google search brought up this page of 173 possible meanings for that acronym, so I feel I'm getting close. https://www.acronymfinder.com/ST.html "Space Telescope"? "SuperTux"? "St

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Richard wrote: >> Mike Kerner wrote: >>> The ST integration is one of the things that is really slick about >>> Levure. >> >> "ST"? >>... >> "Space Telescope"? "SuperTux"? "Starship Trooper"? >> >> Any of those integrations would be awesome. > > Integration for Starship Troo

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > The only way I can see for that to be a bad thing is if it became the > new and ONLY way to develop in Livecode. So long as they are options, > I do not see what all the fuss is about. Amen, brother. Options are liberating, requirements are limiting. My only fuss is to mak

Re: LiveCode Widget Factory

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Monte Goulding wrote: > Community Plus is not open source. The only open source edition > of LiveCode is Community so you need to use extensions that are > licensed with GPL 3 compatible licenses I'll be the first to admit I have a hard time keeping up with the details that distinguish the vario

Re: LiveCode Widget Factory

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Monte Goulding wrote: >> On 23 Feb 2018, at 3:13 pm, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> I'll be the first to admit I have a hard time keeping up with the >> details that distinguish the various editions, but from the web site: >> >> Just like LiveCode Community this is an open source edition of >> L

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