Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-14 Thread Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode



Andy:

LiveCode on Windows is now usable! No lag when the message box
and the Project Browser are is use.


Wow, I'm going to try it in a few days when I have a chance! About time 
too - a little less Winphobia and Windistance goes a looong way and 
helps keep in touch with a huge portion of our end users. Great news. :)


Best wishes,

Curry Kenworthy

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-13 Thread AndyP via use-livecode
Big thank you to the team for this.

LiveCode on Windows is now usable! No lag when the message box and the
Project Browser are is use.

Just tried /set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to "true"/ in an
Android project and no black screen and the quit command works as expected.

Great work!!!




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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Oh, yeah?

Next you'll be telling me that all your Quarks are charmed!

Richmond.

On 11/7/2018 2:15 pm, FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:
  > ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here"
  >
  > A tachyon walks into a bar...

I don't have time for tachyon jokes :)

Hugh Senior
FLCo


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-11 Thread FlexibleLearning.com via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote:
 > ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here"
 >
 > A tachyon walks into a bar...

I don't have time for tachyon jokes :)

Hugh Senior
FLCo


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 07/10/2018 10:32 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Mark Wieder wrote:
 > ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here"
 >
 > A tachyon walks into a bar...

That sounds like a UDP joke, but maybe you didn't get it.





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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Mark Wieder wrote:
> ...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here"
>
> A tachyon walks into a bar...

That sounds like a UDP joke, but maybe you didn't get it.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 07/09/2018 03:45 PM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:

It's the quarks that don't have as far to go, on account of their travelling 
faster than light. Electrons are the pedestrians of the space time continuum.


...bartender says "we don't serve tachyons in here"

A tachyon walks into a bar...

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Richard,
Got it. Took overnight.
Bill

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http://earthlearningsolutions.org

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> William Prothero wrote:
> 
> > On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
> >> Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours.
> >> Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks
> >> ago?
> >
> > A speedy 6hrs estimated here in White Salmon, Washington.
> > Guess I’ll have to wait until later this evening.
> 
> Last time the CDN was doing selective regional throttling my workaround was 
> to log into a server in a very different area (one of my VPSes is in New 
> Jersey), use wget to download it there, and then download to my local machine 
> from my VPS.  Sure, it was a couple extra steps, but it cut download time 
> from hours to minutes.
> 
> If you have a remote VPS sufficiently far away may be worth trying until 
> Cloudflare sorts itself out.
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

William Prothero wrote:

> On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
>> Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours.
>> Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks
>> ago?
>
> A speedy 6hrs estimated here in White Salmon, Washington.
> Guess I’ll have to wait until later this evening.

Last time the CDN was doing selective regional throttling my workaround 
was to log into a server in a very different area (one of my VPSes is in 
New Jersey), use wget to download it there, and then download to my 
local machine from my VPS.  Sure, it was a couple extra steps, but it 
cut download time from hours to minutes.


If you have a remote VPS sufficiently far away may be worth trying until 
Cloudflare sorts itself out.


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
It isn't so much a LC issue, you need to update via the SDK manager. On 
my Mac, I double-click the "android" file at 
/android-sdk-macosx/tools/android. That launches the SDK manager where 
you can choose the updates you want to install.


I'm still using the old command line tools, but I believe there is a way 
to get the same thing in Android Studio also.


On 7/10/18 8:37 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote:

Where is the documentation how to do this correctly?

For a Mac Android developer

??


J. Landman
 Android devs should note
 that you need to have SDK 8 or higher installed (the informative
 notification dialog was a big help here.) I installed 7, 8, and 8.1 and
 LC then allowed me to re-select the SDK in preferences, the phone showed
 up in the Target menu, and I could do a test build.



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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Congratulations to the team for all the hard work!

This is a big day for us. 

India, Malaysia, indeed, all South Asian is now "open for [Android] business" 

Brahmanathaswami
 
panagiotis merakos 

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.




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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-10 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Where is the documentation how to do this correctly?

For a Mac Android developer

??


J. Landman 
Android devs should note 
that you need to have SDK 8 or higher installed (the informative 
notification dialog was a big help here.) I installed 7, 8, and 8.1 and 
LC then allowed me to re-select the SDK in preferences, the phone showed 
up in the Target menu, and I could do a test build.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 07/09/2018 04:26 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote:

A speedy 6hrs estimated here in White Salmon, Washington.
Guess I’ll have to wait until later this evening.


Yah. Once those electrons get hot and swell up not as many of them can 
fit through the internet tubes any more. Good idea to let them cool down 
in the evening.


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
A speedy 6hrs estimated here in White Salmon, Washington.
Guess I’ll have to wait until later this evening. 
Bill


> On Jul 9, 2018, at 4:06 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
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> 
> You're welcome to come by and download from here.
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> On July 9, 2018 5:43:43 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 07/09/2018 03:27 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
>>> On 7/9/18 5:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:
 On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
> Panos wrote:
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.
> 
> Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours.
> Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?
> 
 
 Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
 That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
 Better than a dialup modem, eh?
 
>>> 
>>> Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about five
>>> minutes.
>>> 
>> 
>> Well, sure... at a higher latitude the electrons don't have as far to go.
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

You're welcome to come by and download from here.
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On July 9, 2018 5:43:43 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
 wrote:



On 07/09/2018 03:27 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 7/9/18 5:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Panos wrote:
 > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours.
Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?



Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
Better than a dialup modem, eh?



Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about five
minutes.



Well, sure... at a higher latitude the electrons don't have as far to go.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It's the quarks that don't have as far to go, on account of their travelling 
faster than light. Electrons are the pedestrians of the space time continuum. 

Bob S


> On Jul 9, 2018, at 15:41 , Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about five 
>> minutes.
> 
> Well, sure... at a higher latitude the electrons don't have as far to go.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Tore Nilsen via use-livecode


> 10. jul. 2018 kl. 00:41 skrev Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Well, sure... at a higher latitude the electrons don't have as far to go.

That must be why I can report even better times (approx 1:30) than Phil Davis. 
I am at sea level, but on the west coast of Norway, so not very far from 
Scotland.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 07/09/2018 03:27 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 7/9/18 5:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Panos wrote:
 > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours. 
Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?




Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
Better than a dialup modem, eh?



Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about five 
minutes.




Well, sure... at a higher latitude the electrons don't have as far to go.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Phil Davis via use-livecode
Whoa! Here in the Pacific Northwest (Portland area) I downloaded the 
Indy version in 1:43. That's one minute and change.


Phil Davis


On 7/9/18 3:27 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 7/9/18 5:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Panos wrote:
 > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours. 
Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks 
ago?




Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
Better than a dialup modem, eh?



Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about 
five minutes.




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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 7/9/18 5:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote:

On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Panos wrote:
 > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours. 
Could this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?




Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
Better than a dialup modem, eh?



Here in the Northland, downloading from the web page, it took about five 
minutes.


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Dave Kilroy via use-livecode
Thank you all LiveCode staffers - appreciate the many Android bug fixes 

Kind regards

Dave



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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 07/09/2018 01:41 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:

Panos wrote:
 > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours. Could 
this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?




Here it actually took only about 45 minutes.
That's about 8 megabytes / minute, or 132kbytes / second.
Better than a dialup modem, eh?

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Panos wrote:
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.

Here (Los Angeles) the download is estimated to take three hours. Could 
this be a repeat of the CDN issue you'd corrected a few weeks ago?


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

That was one of the first things I checked. :)

I had some trouble getting LC to recognize my phone until I realized 
that my SDK in mobile prefs had been removed. Android devs should note 
that you need to have SDK 8 or higher installed (the informative 
notification dialog was a big help here.) I installed 7, 8, and 8.1 and 
LC then allowed me to re-select the SDK in preferences, the phone showed 
up in the Target menu, and I could do a test build.


The working option button is a cool addition, that was something I 
didn't expect.


On 7/9/18 3:23 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote:

By the way, we forgot to add to the 'highlights' the fact that we have
updated the target sdk of the android build to API 26, and added a fixed
target SDK version to the template manifest. This should mean that apps
built with 9.0.1-rc-1 will be accepted into the Google Play store without
any warnings about target SDK version.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 8:59 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


On 7/9/18 11:34 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

- several inconsistencies, partial screen updates, incorrect screen
redraws, "black screen" issues and crashes when acceleratedRendering is
true are now fixed
- the crash when reopening an app that was terminated with the "quit"
command on Android no longer occurs


This is great news, thanks to the whole team! These issues have been a
problem for a very long time.

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread Ali Lloyd via use-livecode
By the way, we forgot to add to the 'highlights' the fact that we have
updated the target sdk of the android build to API 26, and added a fixed
target SDK version to the template manifest. This should mean that apps
built with 9.0.1-rc-1 will be accepted into the Google Play store without
any warnings about target SDK version.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 8:59 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 7/9/18 11:34 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:
> > - several inconsistencies, partial screen updates, incorrect screen
> > redraws, "black screen" issues and crashes when acceleratedRendering is
> > true are now fixed
> > - the crash when reopening an app that was terminated with the "quit"
> > command on Android no longer occurs
>
> This is great news, thanks to the whole team! These issues have been a
> problem for a very long time.
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 7/9/18 11:34 AM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

- several inconsistencies, partial screen updates, incorrect screen
redraws, "black screen" issues and crashes when acceleratedRendering is
true are now fixed
- the crash when reopening an app that was terminated with the "quit"
command on Android no longer occurs


This is great news, thanks to the whole team! These issues have been a 
problem for a very long time.


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[ANN] Release 9.0.1 RC-1

2018-07-09 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1 comes with more than 90 bugfixes. Several long standing
and annoying bugs have been fixed - including - but not limited to:

- several inconsistencies, partial screen updates, incorrect screen
redraws, "black screen" issues and crashes when acceleratedRendering is
true are now fixed
- the crash when reopening an app that was terminated with the "quit"
command on Android no longer occurs
- the performance of the IDE on Windows is significantly improved
- a couple of issues with breakpoints are now fixed

In addition, LiveCode 9.0.1 RC-1 includes several new features:

- support for building with Xcode 9.4.x, using iOS 11.4 SDK
- new tsNet and mergExt builds
- new stereo panning properties added to MacOS Player Object
- support for Option Menus on Android

Known issues

- The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with
Cinnamon window manager.
- The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS
yet.

The full release notes are available from:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_0_1/LiveCodeNotes-9_0_1_rc_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93


Have fun!
The LiveCode Team
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