Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-26 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
:) I was aware for several days that we'd usurped the topic but on the other hand, it was indeed this week in LC and now due to end. If anyone else wants to add a comment, now is the last day. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

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2021-03-26 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 25 Mar 2021, at 23:29, james--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > I went for a bike ride this morning. > > Just thought I would add a post under this subject that is no longer really > related to the subject anymore. > > Didn’t want to feel left out ;-) > huahuahuaahuahuahuahuaahuahu

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2021-03-25 Thread james--- via use-livecode
I went for a bike ride this morning. Just thought I would add a post under this subject that is no longer really related to the subject anymore. Didn’t want to feel left out ;-) James ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

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2021-03-25 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Jacque, if you use ftps:// and enable use_ssl then the mode is 'FTP over SSL implicit'. If your FTP Server does not support this mode, then you get an error. So it seems your server does only support FTPS explicit and not implicit FTPS implicit is not very common. Most shared hosts support

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/25/21 12:52 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: If I continue to use only "ftp" and "use_ssl" then it works but I am not sure whether the connection is actually encrypted or not. Just to complete this little journey, I think I'm in business. I use "ftp" in the URL which defaults

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/25/21 7:19 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: Not accepting AppleScript from other apps basically defeats the reason to use AppleScript IMHO… those devs are crazy. I reported the wrong error message. I tried it again and it said "You are unauthorized to use AppleScript." There

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-25 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 5:44 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: It seems Fetch usesftps:// for both FTPeS (FTP over SSL explicit) and FTPS (FTP over SSL implicit). But it depends on the port number you have entered. If you keep port 21 then FTPS (FTP over SSL implicit) is used. If you set the

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2021-03-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: >> On 25 Mar 2021, at 14:58, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Defaulting to HTTP for customer-facing systems simplifies a >> lot of decision-making, and since most of the rest of the >> world makes the same choice at least we're in good company. :) > > Also, HTTP/HTTPS are usually

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2021-03-25 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 25 Mar 2021, at 14:58, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Defaulting to HTTP for customer-facing systems simplifies a lot of > decision-making, and since most of the rest of the world makes the same > choice at least we're in good company. :) Also, HTTP/HTTPS are usually

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2021-03-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > On 24 Mar 2021, at 23:50, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> And with Windows 10, Microsoft is now embracing Linux in its Windows >> Subsystem for Linux, so Win folk can enjoy industry standard tooling >> on all OSes: ... > If you have control of the Windows machine, then you can

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2021-03-25 Thread doc hawk via use-livecode
andre amplified, >Next time, I’m leaving them in. Ahh. The director’s cut . . . :_) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

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2021-03-25 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Andre Garzia wrote: > Devising your own binary file transfer protocol based purely on TCP > sockets is a very tedious and error prone process that will get you > no advantages unless you really have some special need that is not > solved by any of the solutions that already exists. > > The

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2021-03-25 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 25 Mar 2021, at 01:14, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > I suppose everything networking uses sockets, but these are protocols with > standardized ways of establishing the connection and securing it. I was > thinking of a custom client server file transfer method, but whether

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2021-03-25 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 24 Mar 2021, at 23:50, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > And with Windows 10, Microsoft is now embracing Linux in its Windows > Subsystem for Linux, so Win folk can enjoy industry standard tooling on all > OSes: Just be aware that WSL is not activated by default, and you

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2021-03-25 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 24 Mar 2021, at 19:12, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Andre: After TSNet failed, I did try to use AppleScript but Fetch put up a > dialog that it did not allow AppleScript sent from other apps. And BTW, next > time leave in the fun stuff. :) Not accepting AppleScript

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2021-03-25 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
> On 24 Mar 2021, at 17:11, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > > I think there may be other questions in play as well. > Will I learn anything from doing this? > Will I have fun experimenting with it? > Are there more pressing things I need to do instead? > etc. YES, a thousand times

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2021-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I suppose everything networking uses sockets, but these are protocols with standardized ways of establishing the connection and securing it. I was thinking of a custom client server file transfer method, but whether or not it could work for Jacque, I don’t know. Bob S On Mar 24, 2021, at

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2021-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
I don't understand. FTP, SFTP, FTPS, scp, and rsync all use sockets. Are you suggesting Jacque write her own file upload protocol? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Bob Sneidar wrote: > Or sockets. > > Bob S > > > On Mar 24, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> FTP is a

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2021-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
In this discussion of personal plugins run on macOS, a macOS solution seemed appropriate. And with Windows 10, Microsoft is now embracing Linux in its Windows Subsystem for Linux, so Win folk can enjoy industry standard tooling on all OSes:

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2021-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Or sockets. Bob S On Mar 24, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: FTP is a great protocol for open-ended traversal of remote file repositories. For just transferring a file, scp or rsync with shared keys is a one-liner via shell(),

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
- Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 25.03.2021 um 00:22 schrieb Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > : > > FTP is a great protocol for open-ended traversal of remote file repositories. > > For just transferring a file, scp or rsync with shared keys is a one-liner > via

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2021-03-24 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
FTP is a great protocol for open-ended traversal of remote file repositories. For just transferring a file, scp or rsync with shared keys is a one-liner via shell(), and will be faster in addition to being simpler to code. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
what i forgot my previous overview >>> Server scheme use sslis protocol >>> ftp:// false ftp >>> ftp://. true ftp over SSL explicit >>> ftps:// true

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
I've just had a quick look at the documentation of Fetch. It seems Fetch uses ftps:// for both FTPeS (FTP over SSL explicit) and FTPS (FTP over SSL implicit). But it depends on the port number you have entered. If you keep port 21 then FTPS (FTP over SSL implicit) is used. If you set the

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2021-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 4:02 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: Server scheme use sslis protocol ftp:// false ftp ftp://. true ftp over SSL explicit ftps:// true

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
 - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 24.03.2021 um 21:47 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > On 3/24/21 3:00 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: >> tsNET returns the 'standard' curl error codes. I have bookmarked the >> followingurl to get help, if i

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2021-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 3:00 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote: tsNET returns the 'standard' curl error codes. I have bookmarked the followingurl to get help, if i got stuck with tsNET and its error code. https://curl.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html Thanks, that will be convenient. TSNet also

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Jacque, tsNET returns the 'standard' curl error codes. I have bookmarked the followingurl to get help, if i got stuck with tsNET and its error code. https://curl.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html - Matthias Rebbe Life Is Too Short For Boring Code > Am 24.03.2021 um 20:39 schrieb J. Landman

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2021-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 2:12 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: My server didn't like it and returned TSNet error 60. I fixed it! The issue was that the certificate name didn't match my domain name since I'm on a shared host. I had to set up Fetch to always trust the certificate anyway. As the

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/23/21 10:53 PM, scott--- via use-livecode wrote: Scott: I followed the lesson here: My server didn't like it and returned TSNet error 60. Andre: After TSNet failed, I did try to use

Re: [ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-24 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 12:11 PM, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: my code just seems happier in general these days. To paraphrase: If code ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.* *For our non-US friends, it's an American dialect thing, originally: "If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy." And you can

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2021-03-24 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 3/24/21 8:19 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: The question I always ask myself is, will I ever benefit from this again? Additionally, can anyone else ever benefit from this? I think there may be other questions in play as well. Will I learn anything from doing this? Will I have fun

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2021-03-24 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The question I always ask myself is, will I ever benefit from this again? Additionally, can anyone else ever benefit from this? Bob S On Mar 23, 2021, at 7:32 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: I read it today too and it was inspiring, which was

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2021-03-24 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Folks, Thanks a lot for the kind words, it really made my day! <3 Mark, I guarantee that I learned more from you than you from me. Scott, exploding tea infusers are quite dangerous. We managed to get a refund but I’m still terrified of what happened. As for coffee, I’m deep into coffee stuff,

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
"Sometimes 3 times, because have to projects i create for Win/Mac/Linux and that several times a month." meant to be Sometimes 3 times, because i have two projects i create for Win/Mac/Linux several times a month and the tasks has to be done for each standalone and platform. - Matthias

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2021-03-24 Thread matthias rebbe via use-livecode
Jacque, > Am 24.03.2021 um 03:32 schrieb J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > : > > I read it today too and it was inspiring, which was the whole point really. A > couple of the footnotes made me laugh. I already make a lot of my own tools > and plugins but I did get some ideas from the book. >

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2021-03-23 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
Jacque, I just followed a lesson to accomplish the same thing. Were you using LibURL or tsNet? I was successful using tsNet but not yet when trying to do it with LibURL. I was hoping to have both methods available so that the stack would also work with the community version when I shared it…

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2021-03-23 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I read it today too and it was inspiring, which was the whole point really. A couple of the footnotes made me laugh. I already make a lot of my own tools and plugins but I did get some ideas from the book. I immediately set about updating one of my tools and got stuck. So the next question

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2021-03-23 Thread scott--- via use-livecode
I finished reading Andre’s book last night. Always happy to read his musings about Livecode development! -- Scott Morrow Elementary Software (Now with 20% less chalk dust!) web https://elementarysoftware.com/ email sc...@elementarysoftware.com booth1-360-734-4701

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2021-03-23 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 3/23/21 9:59 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: I popped for the book. I already operate somewhat on this level but I learned something as a teenager when teaching myself to play guitar: There are always gaps in knowledge when a person learns that way. I grabbed the book as well. I

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2021-03-23 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I popped for the book. I already operate somewhat on this level but I learned something as a teenager when teaching myself to play guitar: There are always gaps in knowledge when a person learns that way. Bob S On Mar 23, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Andre Garzia via use-livecode

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2021-03-23 Thread Andre Garzia via use-livecode
Hey Panos, Thanks for including the message about my new book in the newsletter. Thanks a ton :-) Best A On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 20:30, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open

[ANN] This Week in LiveCode 259

2021-03-22 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all, Read about new developments in LiveCode open source and the open source community in today's edition of the "This Week in LiveCode" newsletter! Read issue #259 here: http://bit.ly/3tY74Qj This is a weekly newsletter about LiveCode, focussing on what's been going on in and around