Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
If it’s business only that’s the single dumbest bit of reasoning I’ve seen LC 
do (and I’ve seen some doozies). Stuff em. I’ll build one and make it available 
for all Indy users for free just to pee over their weird business decisions 
like this. I’ve used the iOS version by merg frequently as an Indy user and 
lamented the lack of android version for broader platform support. 

I’m convinced, though, this must be an overall typo and that it IS available 
for Indy users and not business only. I just can’t imagine they’ve been so 
short-sighted (unless theyve got a real good reason why, like licensing cost or 
what have you). They are not complete imbeciles! I hope. 

Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd

> On 21 May 2019, at 20:00, JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> ok i'll put my dissapointment on hold for a while :-D
> 
> Op 21-5-2019 om 20:13 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
>> It's only a Developer Preview. This is the time to get things sorted. If it 
>> gets to Release Candidate and is missing something you need, THEN be 
>> disappointed. :-)
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2019, at 10:50 , JJS via use-livecode 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> this is a bit of a dissapointment...
>>> 
>>> Because when i look at mergAVcamStartbarcodereader it is available for iOs 
>>> in Indy, according the dictionary.
>>> 
>>> But not for Android, then it is business.
>>> 
>>> Why is there difference?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>> 
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread JJS via use-livecode

ok i'll put my dissapointment on hold for a while :-D

Op 21-5-2019 om 20:13 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:

It's only a Developer Preview. This is the time to get things sorted. If it 
gets to Release Candidate and is missing something you need, THEN be 
disappointed. :-)

Bob S



On May 21, 2019, at 10:50 , JJS via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Hi,


this is a bit of a dissapointment...

Because when i look at mergAVcamStartbarcodereader it is available for iOs in 
Indy, according the dictionary.

But not for Android, then it is business.

Why is there difference?


Thanks.

Jerry


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
It's only a Developer Preview. This is the time to get things sorted. If it 
gets to Release Candidate and is missing something you need, THEN be 
disappointed. :-)

Bob S


> On May 21, 2019, at 10:50 , JJS via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> this is a bit of a dissapointment...
> 
> Because when i look at mergAVcamStartbarcodereader it is available for iOs in 
> Indy, according the dictionary.
> 
> But not for Android, then it is business.
> 
> Why is there difference?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jerry


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Hi,


this is a bit of a dissapointment...

Because when i look at mergAVcamStartbarcodereader it is available for 
iOs in Indy, according the dictionary.


But not for Android, then it is business.

Why is there difference?


Thanks.

Jerry


Op 21-5-2019 om 19:04 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:

Possibly I'm going gyte as I work my way towards 60 (57 and counting),
but I seem to remember something floating around about modularisation
and the ability to choose which modules to buy . . .

Richmond.

On 21.05.19 19:57, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Mark,

I meant the barcode scanner only in this case because i think that is 
/ can

be used for less "businessy" things (depending on what Businessy means)

I think if they brought out a couple of widgets every few months and 
added

some to Indy - for instance beacons in indy , fingerprint for business
that sort of thing.

I still think they should have a donation type page for the free 
community
we might bring in a few shekels from the open source comminity - but 
what

do I know?

We paid for MVC in business and got the Free Levure in community and
business,  which is probably better anyway it was designed by 
somebody who

had to scratch an itch.

What Business should really be is a dedicated person who helps projects
along and answers emails and chats in hours not days - fgets the team to
fix showstoppers
basically support not "knobs and Knockers"

look at the pricing here - the free version has everything the 
enterprize

version has at $98,000 less.
https://haxe.org/foundation/support-plans.html

Xojo's pricing is roughly teh same but it doesn't run out only the 
updates

do
https://www.xojo.com/store/
same for nearly all the others - only stop updates -


I will say it again and again and again and again and .

Forget about community plus as such - bring out separate versions for
mobile that are £99 pounds and they don't run out but  updates do
Apple and Google are your best friends they keep moving the goal 
post  so

anybody serious will need the update to the latest version to compile.
Bring out a version that can only connect to sqlite not Mysql - that 
does

not deactivate after a year - if you bring out worthwhile upgrades they
they will come ..

  


Lagi


On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 17:24, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Although i am on business i was also thinking that it might be good for
Indy license holder to be able to use these widgets. But i 
understand that

the LC company added this just to Business.
If every new addition will be added to both license types then for many
there is no reason  anymore to subscribe to business.

But why not offer these new widgets as additional subscriptions for 
Indy

licenses. This would allow Indy developers to use the new widgets, but
would grant LC some extra revenue for these great new additions.

Matthias



Am 21.05.2019 um 17:44 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <

use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >:
It SHOULD be in INDY even though I am personally paying for the 
Business

upgrade.
LC should rethink this - there are fewer people on Business (educated
guess) so you at least want a few more people on Indy.
This might be what makes them upgrade - get them to Ben Nevis THEN 
they

might climb Everest.

Just my 5p worth (inflation)

Lagi




On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >

wrote:
Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available 
for

Indy?
Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)

JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:

Nice, Nice, Nice!

We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)

Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
unfortunately.

But thanks! great that we now can play with it.


Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of 
curiosity,

has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.

Bob S



On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
>

wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you 
back

up your
stacks before testing them.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at 
https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/



or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, 
more

than
100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were 
fixed in

LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into 

Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

Possibly I'm going gyte as I work my way towards 60 (57 and counting),
but I seem to remember something floating around about modularisation
and the ability to choose which modules to buy . . .

Richmond.

On 21.05.19 19:57, Lagi Pittas via use-livecode wrote:

Hi Mark,

I meant the barcode scanner only in this case because i think that is / can
be used for less "businessy" things (depending on what Businessy means)

I think if they brought out a couple of widgets every few months and added
some to Indy - for instance beacons in indy , fingerprint for business
that sort of thing.

I still think they should have a donation type page for the free community
we might bring in a few shekels from the open source comminity - but what
do I know?

We paid for MVC in business and got the Free Levure in community and
business,  which is probably better anyway it was designed by somebody who
had to scratch an itch.

What Business should really be is a dedicated person who helps projects
along and answers emails and chats in hours not days - fgets the team to
fix showstoppers
basically support not "knobs and Knockers"

look at the pricing here - the free version has everything the enterprize
version has at $98,000 less.
https://haxe.org/foundation/support-plans.html

Xojo's pricing is roughly teh same but it doesn't run out only the updates
do
https://www.xojo.com/store/
same for nearly all the others - only stop updates -


I will say it again and again and again and again and .

Forget about community plus as such - bring out separate versions for
mobile that are £99 pounds and they don't run out but  updates do
Apple and Google are your best friends they keep moving the goal post  so
anybody serious will need the update to the latest version to compile.
Bring out a version that can only connect to sqlite not Mysql - that does
not deactivate after a year - if you bring out worthwhile upgrades they
they will come ..

  


Lagi


On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 17:24, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Although i am on business i was also thinking that it might be good for
Indy license holder to be able to use these widgets. But i understand that
the LC company added this just to Business.
If every new addition will be added to both license types then for many
there is no reason  anymore to subscribe to business.

But why not offer these new widgets as additional subscriptions for Indy
licenses. This would allow Indy developers to use the new widgets, but
would grant LC some extra revenue for these great new additions.

Matthias



Am 21.05.2019 um 17:44 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <

use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >:

It SHOULD be in INDY even though I am personally paying for the Business
upgrade.
LC should rethink this - there are fewer people on Business (educated
guess) so you at least want a few more people on Indy.
This might be what makes them upgrade - get them to Ben Nevis THEN they
might climb Everest.

Just my 5p worth (inflation)

Lagi




On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >

wrote:

Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for
Indy?
Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)

JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:

Nice, Nice, Nice!

We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)

Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
unfortunately.

But thanks! great that we now can play with it.


Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:

These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity,
has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.

Bob S



On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>

wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back
up your
stacks before testing them.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/



or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more
than
100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new
features:

- Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
- Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
- Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
- Math operation refactor
- New Android Architectures
- New container layer mode
- New log command and 

Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
Hi Mark,

I meant the barcode scanner only in this case because i think that is / can
be used for less "businessy" things (depending on what Businessy means)

I think if they brought out a couple of widgets every few months and added
some to Indy - for instance beacons in indy , fingerprint for business
that sort of thing.

I still think they should have a donation type page for the free community
we might bring in a few shekels from the open source comminity - but what
do I know?

We paid for MVC in business and got the Free Levure in community and
business,  which is probably better anyway it was designed by somebody who
had to scratch an itch.

What Business should really be is a dedicated person who helps projects
along and answers emails and chats in hours not days - fgets the team to
fix showstoppers
basically support not "knobs and Knockers"

look at the pricing here - the free version has everything the enterprize
version has at $98,000 less.
https://haxe.org/foundation/support-plans.html

Xojo's pricing is roughly teh same but it doesn't run out only the updates
do
https://www.xojo.com/store/
same for nearly all the others - only stop updates -


I will say it again and again and again and again and .

Forget about community plus as such - bring out separate versions for
mobile that are £99 pounds and they don't run out but  updates do
Apple and Google are your best friends they keep moving the goal post  so
anybody serious will need the update to the latest version to compile.
Bring out a version that can only connect to sqlite not Mysql - that does
not deactivate after a year - if you bring out worthwhile upgrades they
they will come ..

 


Lagi


On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 17:24, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Although i am on business i was also thinking that it might be good for
> Indy license holder to be able to use these widgets. But i understand that
> the LC company added this just to Business.
> If every new addition will be added to both license types then for many
> there is no reason  anymore to subscribe to business.
>
> But why not offer these new widgets as additional subscriptions for Indy
> licenses. This would allow Indy developers to use the new widgets, but
> would grant LC some extra revenue for these great new additions.
>
> Matthias
>
>
> > Am 21.05.2019 um 17:44 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >:
> >
> > It SHOULD be in INDY even though I am personally paying for the Business
> > upgrade.
> > LC should rethink this - there are fewer people on Business (educated
> > guess) so you at least want a few more people on Indy.
> > This might be what makes them upgrade - get them to Ben Nevis THEN they
> > might climb Everest.
> >
> > Just my 5p worth (inflation)
> >
> > Lagi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >
> wrote:
> >
> >> Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for
> >> Indy?
> >> Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)
> >>
> >> JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:
> >>> Nice, Nice, Nice!
> >>>
> >>> We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)
> >>>
> >>> Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
> >>> great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
> >>> unfortunately.
> >>>
> >>> But thanks! great that we now can play with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
>  These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity,
>  has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
>  latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.
> 
>  Bob S
> 
> 
> > On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
> > mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >
> > Developer Preview Release
> > =
> > Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back
> > up your
> > stacks before testing them.
> >
> >
> > Getting the Release
> > ===
> > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> 
> > or via
> > the automatic updater.
> >
> >
> > Release Contents
> > 
> > LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more
> > than
> > 100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
> > LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >
> > In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new
> > features:
> >
> > - Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment 

Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
This goes to my point about why certain things you want to use are bundled into 
version you cannot afford. I would much rather subscribe to certain add-ons but 
we all decided on this awhay back when the licensing model was put forth, and 
also I can see that someone might only purchase an add-on for the year they are 
developing a project that uses it. It would be a difficult system to manage. 

Bob S


> On May 21, 2019, at 09:24 , Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Although i am on business i was also thinking that it might be good for Indy 
> license holder to be able to use these widgets. But i understand that the LC 
> company added this just to Business.
> If every new addition will be added to both license types then for many there 
> is no reason  anymore to subscribe to business.
> 
> But why not offer these new widgets as additional subscriptions for Indy 
> licenses. This would allow Indy developers to use the new widgets, but would 
> grant LC some extra revenue for these great new additions.
> 
> Matthias


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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Although i am on business i was also thinking that it might be good for Indy 
license holder to be able to use these widgets. But i understand that the LC 
company added this just to Business.
If every new addition will be added to both license types then for many there 
is no reason  anymore to subscribe to business.

But why not offer these new widgets as additional subscriptions for Indy 
licenses. This would allow Indy developers to use the new widgets, but would 
grant LC some extra revenue for these great new additions.

Matthias


> Am 21.05.2019 um 17:44 schrieb Lagi Pittas via use-livecode 
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>>:
> 
> It SHOULD be in INDY even though I am personally paying for the Business
> upgrade.
> LC should rethink this - there are fewer people on Business (educated
> guess) so you at least want a few more people on Indy.
> This might be what makes them upgrade - get them to Ben Nevis THEN they
> might climb Everest.
> 
> Just my 5p worth (inflation)
> 
> Lagi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > wrote:
> 
>> Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for
>> Indy?
>> Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)
>> 
>> JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:
>>> Nice, Nice, Nice!
>>> 
>>> We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)
>>> 
>>> Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
>>> great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
>>> unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> But thanks! great that we now can play with it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
 These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity,
 has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
 latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.
 
 Bob S
 
 
> On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
> mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> 
> Developer Preview Release
> =
> Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back
> up your
> stacks before testing them.
> 
> 
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 
> 
> or via
> the automatic updater.
> 
> 
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more
> than
> 100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
> LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> 
> In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new
> features:
> 
> - Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
> - Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
> - Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
> - Math operation refactor
> - New Android Architectures
> - New container layer mode
> - New log command and logMessage property
> - Implement filter where clause
> - Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to
> browser
> widget
> - New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
> - Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
> - Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
> - Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in
> SQLite DBs
> - Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
> - Implemented clip to path for LCB
> - Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
> - New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
> - mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
> - PDF Widget (Business Edition)
> - Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
> - Mac status menu library
> 
> 
> Known issues
> 
> 
> - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux
> distros with
> Cinnamon window manager.
> - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64
> bit LTS
> yet.
> 
> The full release notes are available from:
> 
> 
>> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf 
>> 
> 
> 
> Feedback
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
> 
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
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> 
> Have fun!
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
It SHOULD be in INDY even though I am personally paying for the Business
upgrade.
LC should rethink this - there are fewer people on Business (educated
guess) so you at least want a few more people on Indy.
This might be what makes them upgrade - get them to Ben Nevis THEN they
might climb Everest.

Just my 5p worth (inflation)

Lagi




On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for
> Indy?
> Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)
>
> JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:
> > Nice, Nice, Nice!
> >
> > We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)
> >
> > Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
> > great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
> > unfortunately.
> >
> > But thanks! great that we now can play with it.
> >
> >
> > Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
> >> These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity,
> >> has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
> >> latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.
> >>
> >> Bob S
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear list members,
> >>>
> >>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >>>
> >>> Developer Preview Release
> >>> =
> >>> Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back
> >>> up your
> >>> stacks before testing them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Getting the Release
> >>> ===
> >>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >>> or via
> >>> the automatic updater.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Release Contents
> >>> 
> >>> LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more
> >>> than
> >>> 100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
> >>> LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new
> >>> features:
> >>>
> >>> - Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
> >>> - Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
> >>> - Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
> >>> - Math operation refactor
> >>> - New Android Architectures
> >>> - New container layer mode
> >>> - New log command and logMessage property
> >>> - Implement filter where clause
> >>> - Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to
> >>> browser
> >>> widget
> >>> - New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
> >>> - Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
> >>> - Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
> >>> - Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in
> >>> SQLite DBs
> >>> - Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
> >>> - Implemented clip to path for LCB
> >>> - Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
> >>> - New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
> >>> - mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
> >>> - PDF Widget (Business Edition)
> >>> - Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
> >>> - Mac status menu library
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Known issues
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux
> >>> distros with
> >>> Cinnamon window manager.
> >>> - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64
> >>> bit LTS
> >>> yet.
> >>>
> >>> The full release notes are available from:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Feedback
> >>> 
> >>> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
> >>> http://quality.livecode.com/
> >>>
> >>> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> >>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Jerry,

Both the PDF widget and the Android Barcode widget are included in Business
edition, but the release notes they are mentioned under the section
"LiveCode Indy Extension Changes" too. This is because of a bug in our
release notes builder. Sorry for the confusion.

Regards,
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On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 04:54, Sphere via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for
> Indy?
> Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)
>
> JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:
> > Nice, Nice, Nice!
> >
> > We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)
> >
> > Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
> > great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
> > unfortunately.
> >
> > But thanks! great that we now can play with it.
> >
> >
> > Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
> >> These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity,
> >> has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The
> >> latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.
> >>
> >> Bob S
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear list members,
> >>>
> >>> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >>>
> >>> Developer Preview Release
> >>> =
> >>> Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back
> >>> up your
> >>> stacks before testing them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Getting the Release
> >>> ===
> >>> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/
> >>> or via
> >>> the automatic updater.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Release Contents
> >>> 
> >>> LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more
> >>> than
> >>> 100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
> >>> LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new
> >>> features:
> >>>
> >>> - Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
> >>> - Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
> >>> - Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
> >>> - Math operation refactor
> >>> - New Android Architectures
> >>> - New container layer mode
> >>> - New log command and logMessage property
> >>> - Implement filter where clause
> >>> - Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to
> >>> browser
> >>> widget
> >>> - New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
> >>> - Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
> >>> - Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
> >>> - Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in
> >>> SQLite DBs
> >>> - Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
> >>> - Implemented clip to path for LCB
> >>> - Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
> >>> - New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
> >>> - mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
> >>> - PDF Widget (Business Edition)
> >>> - Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
> >>> - Mac status menu library
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Known issues
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux
> >>> distros with
> >>> Cinnamon window manager.
> >>> - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64
> >>> bit LTS
> >>> yet.
> >>>
> >>> The full release notes are available from:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Feedback
> >>> 
> >>> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
> >>> http://quality.livecode.com/
> >>>
> >>> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> >>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
> >>>
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-21 Thread Sphere via use-livecode
Oopsa, dis i read this wrong? and is the barcode library available for 
Indy?

Looks like it in the releasenotes (sometimes i read to quickly)

JJS schreef op 2019-05-20 17:40:

Nice, Nice, Nice!

We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)

Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be
great. I don't have that kind of money to spend for business
unfortunately.

But thanks! great that we now can play with it.


Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:
These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity, 
has anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The 
latest 9.0.4 does not seem to implement this.


Bob S


On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
 wrote:


Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back 
up your

stacks before testing them.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ 
or via

the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more 
than

100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new 
features:


- Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
- Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
- Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
- Math operation refactor
- New Android Architectures
- New container layer mode
- New log command and logMessage property
- Implement filter where clause
- Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to 
browser

widget
- New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
- Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
- Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
- Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in 
SQLite DBs

- Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
- Implemented clip to path for LCB
- Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
- New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
- mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
- PDF Widget (Business Edition)
- Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
- Mac status menu library


Known issues


- The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux 
distros with

Cinnamon window manager.
- The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 
bit LTS

yet.

The full release notes are available from:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-20 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hello Klaus,

Thank you for spotting this. This is probably a bug in our release notes
builder. I'll file a bug report about it once the conference is over.

Regards,
Panos
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 10:38, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Panos,
>
> "Release Notes" page 17
> The big blue headlines reads:
> LiveCode Indy extension changes
> Then next line:
> PDF widget
>
> However the fineprint reads:
> PDF Widget
> A PDF widget ... is available in LiveCode Business.
> ...
>
> It should be made clear that the PDF widget is only available in LC
> BUSINESS
> and not in INDY!
>
> > Am 20.05.2019 um 19:04 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Dear list members,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> > ...
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
>
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-20 Thread Richmond via use-livecode

I'm having a problem with my fingers and toes . . .

leaping from 9.0.5 to 9.5.0 got my digits all mixed up

Not that that doesn't get me all excited about 9.5.0 :)

Richmond.

On 20.05.19 20:04, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back up your
stacks before testing them.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more than
100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new features:

- Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
- Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
- Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
- Math operation refactor
- New Android Architectures
- New container layer mode
- New log command and logMessage property
- Implement filter where clause
- Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to browser
widget
- New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
- Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
- Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
- Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in SQLite DBs
- Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
- Implemented clip to path for LCB
- Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
- New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
- mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
- PDF Widget (Business Edition)
- Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
- Mac status menu library


Known issues


- The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with
Cinnamon window manager.
- The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS
yet.

The full release notes are available from:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-20 Thread JJS via use-livecode

Nice, Nice, Nice!

We can test x86 Emulator now, superfast :)

Too bad the Android Barcode reader is Business, on Indy would be great. 
I don't have that kind of money to spend for business unfortunately.


But thanks! great that we now can play with it.


Op 20-5-2019 om 19:29 schreef Bob Sneidar via use-livecode:

These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity, has 
anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The latest 9.0.4 
does not seem to implement this.

Bob S



On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
 wrote:

Dear list members,

We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

Developer Preview Release
=
Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back up your
stacks before testing them.


Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.


Release Contents

LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more than
100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.

In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new features:

- Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
- Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
- Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
- Math operation refactor
- New Android Architectures
- New container layer mode
- New log command and logMessage property
- Implement filter where clause
- Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to browser
widget
- New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
- Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
- Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
- Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in SQLite DBs
- Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
- Implemented clip to path for LCB
- Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
- New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
- mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
- PDF Widget (Business Edition)
- Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
- Mac status menu library


Known issues


- The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with
Cinnamon window manager.
- The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS
yet.

The full release notes are available from:

http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf


Feedback

Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
http://quality.livecode.com/

We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-20 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Panos,

"Release Notes" page 17
The big blue headlines reads:
LiveCode Indy extension changes
Then next line:
PDF widget

However the fineprint reads:
PDF Widget
A PDF widget ... is available in LiveCode Business.
...

It should be made clear that the PDF widget is only available in LC BUSINESS
and not in INDY!

> Am 20.05.2019 um 19:04 schrieb panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> ...

Best

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Re: [ANN] Release 9.5.0 DP-1

2019-05-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
These features look really nice! I'll play with it. Out of curiosity, has 
anyone addressed the nested behaviors for datagrids issue? The latest 9.0.4 
does not seem to implement this. 

Bob S


> On May 20, 2019, at 10:04 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear list members,
> 
> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> 
> Developer Preview Release
> =
> Warning: this is not a stable release.  Please ensure that you back up your
> stacks before testing them.
> 
> 
> Getting the Release
> ===
> You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
> the automatic updater.
> 
> 
> Release Contents
> 
> LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 comes with more than 80 bugfixes. Moreover, more than
> 100 bugfixes, including several memory leak fixes, that were fixed in
> LiveCode 9.0.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1.
> 
> In addition, LiveCode 9.5.0 DP-1 includes several amazing new features:
> 
> - Windows 64 bit IDE & deployment support
> - Static linked code libraries for iOS device builds
> - Real boolean constants, Infinity constant
> - Math operation refactor
> - New Android Architectures
> - New container layer mode
> - New log command and logMessage property
> - Implement filter where clause
> - Progress, isSecure and allowUserInteraction features added to browser
> widget
> - New returnKeyType & keyboardType field property
> - Improved sort international to support lots of additional locales
> - Updated SQLite lib to the latest version (v3.28.0)
> - Added support for URI filenames and JSON storage/retrieval in SQLite DBs
> - Implemented modifier key state access for LCB (e.g. “key is down”)
> - Implemented clip to path for LCB
> - Several enhancements to Tree View Widget
> - New mobileSetKeyboardDisplay and mobileGetKeyboardDisplay handlers
> - mobileSetKeyboardReturnKey on android
> - PDF Widget (Business Edition)
> - Android Barcode Scanner widget (Business Edition)
> - Mac status menu library
> 
> 
> Known issues
> 
> 
> - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with
> Cinnamon window manager.
> - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS
> yet.
> 
> The full release notes are available from:
> 
> http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_5_0/LiveCodeNotes-9_5_0_dp_1.pdf
> 
> 
> Feedback
> 
> Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at
> http://quality.livecode.com/
> 
> We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at
> http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93
> 
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