Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/10/2018 08:12 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote: All my apps do this, but typically, unless the developer has a bug up his butt about the old fullscreen method, if you hold the option key down while clicking the green maximize control, it should work like the old way. There is an

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-10 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
All my apps do this, but typically, unless the developer has a bug up his butt about the old fullscreen method, if you hold the option key down while clicking the green maximize control, it should work like the old way. There is an option in preferences too I think to switch back to the old way

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi Mark, > Am 08.09.2018 um 18:23 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode > : > On 09/08/2018 09:13 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Noob question :) I tried this on osx and maximized a stack. It took over the whole screen. Now how do I unmaximize it? There's no title bar. That

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/08/2018 09:13 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: Noob question :) I tried this on osx and maximized a stack. It took over the whole screen. Now how do I unmaximize it? There's no title bar. That just seems wrong. Put the mouse at the top of screen to display menubar or type

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
HI all, > Am 08.09.2018 um 18:05 schrieb Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode > : > > >> Le 8 sept. 2018 à 18:03, Mark Wieder via use-livecode >> a écrit : >> >> On 09/07/2018 10:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: >> Mac is somewhat different. If you click the maximize control

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/08/2018 09:05 AM, Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode wrote: Put the mouse at the top of screen to display menubar or type escape at the keyboard Doh! Thanks. I had tried escape but didn't move the mouse up to the top. I imagine there must be precedent for this, but none of my other osx

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Ludovic THEBAULT via use-livecode
> Le 8 sept. 2018 à 18:03, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > a écrit : > > On 09/07/2018 10:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: > >>> Mac is somewhat different. If you click the maximize control then you go >> into full screen mode for that window (no title bar, no menu, no dock). >>

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-08 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/07/2018 10:20 PM, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote: Mac is somewhat different. If you click the maximize control then you go into full screen mode for that window (no title bar, no menu, no dock). Palettes still appear over it (tools, Devolution, Navigator, DevTools, but not the menu

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Frankly, I would prefer the ide tools palette and the Devo tools palette overlap at will. One or the other can be in front, overlapped or not. I generally only use the ide tools when creating UI objects, so most of the time it’s invisible. Currently, to get the Devo palette to go as far left

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 11:45 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Brian Milby wrote: > > > FWIW... > > I see the same thing on Mac where Devolution will not move past the > > tool palette. > > More interestingly, when you see the windowBoundingRect

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Brian Milby wrote: > FWIW... > I see the same thing on Mac where Devolution will not move past the > tool palette. More interestingly, when you see the windowBoundingRect altered by the placement of the IDE's tool palette, does a maximized window respect the new windowBoundingRect as it does

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
FWIW... I see the same thing on Mac where Devolution will not move past the tool palette. One possible solution would be to add the rect of Devolution to the prefs and restore regardless of the bounding rect. This would allow the tool palette to be positioned over Devolution since you probably

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mark Wieder wrote: > On 09/06/2018 07:10 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > >> Maximize a window when the tool palette is flush left, then restore, >> then try again after the palette has been moved more toward screen >> center. The changes the IDE makes to the windowBoundingRect

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-07 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/06/2018 07:10 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Maximize a window when the tool palette is flush left, then restore, then try again after the palette has been moved more toward screen center.  The changes the IDE makes to the windowBoundingRect should be evident with that

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-06 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 09/06/2018 01:15 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: I see what's happening there.  It appears the IDE team is attempting to use a floating palette in a highly unusual way: rather than floating on top of a document, it's assumed to be placed at the left and when it is the

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-06 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Richard, Thanks for looking into this. My problem came when the Devo palette wouldn’t move to the left, even if the IDE tools palette was closed. But, it’s easy to fix by just moving the IDE Tools palette to the right until it lets me move the Devo palette to the left, then it no longer snaps

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-06 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > Richard: > Here’s what I found on the palette thing. I’m no longer worried about > the backdrop because it was just me not seeing that there was a LC > toolbar menu item that would turn it off. In fact, I may have been > blaming Devo incorrectly, when it was LC’s

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-05 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
I do have 2 monitors. It started to appear in LC 9.0.1 Bill William Prothero http://ed.earthednet.org > On Sep 5, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Mark Talluto via use-livecode > wrote: > > Multi-monitor issue? > > > Best regards, > > Mark Talluto > livecloud.io > nursenotes.net

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-05 Thread Mark Talluto via use-livecode
Multi-monitor issue? Best regards, Mark Talluto livecloud.io nursenotes.net canelasoftware.com > On Sep 4, 2018, at 10:41 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Richard: > I’ve been playing

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-04 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Richard: I’ve been playing around with this and noticed that if i move the IDE tools palette to the right far enough, the 4WDevo palette will move as far to the left as I want. So that tells me there is some interaction between the IDE tools palette and the 4W palette. Again, if you can’t make

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-04 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Richard: Here’s what I found on the palette thing. I’m no longer worried about the backdrop because it was just me not seeing that there was a LC toolbar menu item that would turn it off. In fact, I may have been blaming Devo incorrectly, when it was LC’s responsibility. If you, in 9.0.1 RC 2

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-04 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
William Prothero wrote: > Folks (Richard?): > Ok, I know this is really easy, I did it when I first installed it, > and I’m probably just not seeing something, but …….. > > I’m on Apple, 10.13.3 and LC 9.0.1 > > How do I get rid of the white background that covers the desktop when > 4WDevolution

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-04 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Must be a bad day. It’s 4World, of course. Bill >> >> Second question: Since 9.0.1 RC1 of livecode, the 4WDevo tool palette will >> not stay on the left side. It is exactly offset to show both the LCE tools >> palette and the 4WDevo tools palette. But, if I want to toggle between them, >>

Re: 3WDevolution question

2018-09-04 Thread William Prothero via use-livecode
Oh, gaads. I found the View/Backdrop menu setting to move it to the background. Never mind…. Ok, the tools palette offset is still annoying. Bill > On Sep 4, 2018, at 4:32 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Folks (Richard?): > Ok, I know this is really easy, I did it when I