Re: Longest common substring / subsequence

2005-11-04 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Judy, There's different ways to this. the most common is runtime encoding of a dictionary. The question is whether you have a fixed encoding or a variable encoding. How does teh data present itself? For data compression and related subjects, this is collected either in a scan-pass of the

Re: checking removable drives

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Thursday, November 3, 2005, 10:33:33 PM, you wrote: Well then Mark, are you going to share it? ;-) The source is in the sdk. Do you need the compiled dll? I can't post it to the list or to revonline... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: checking removable drives

2005-11-04 Thread Martin Baxter
Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: And if we do ignore that for portable apps, assuming we'd like to ship a single app for both portable and installed use, how can we know we're running installed so that we could write the file association entry to the

Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread Jan Sælid
Hi I use several modal stacks to communicate with the user. My first question is: Is there a way to pass informasjon from a modal stack back to the function on the stack that opened it? Like Return? I use a custom property for now When the modal stack closes the function in the main

Re: Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread xavier . bury
Hi Jan What i do in these cases is to have the mainstack call a prep handler to setup the modal stack's info. When the user clicks on in the Modal stack, there is a handler in the modal that can do 1 of two things: 1: set a global array to retrieve the information 2: send a call to the main

Re: Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread Jan Sælid
Thanks alot Xavier (This is really an immensely useful and fast mailing list!!!) I have never used the control keyword before. How does it work? Do you use it like control 5 instead of Button Hitme. (It's funny how dumb you feel in some areas - and how smart in others.;-) ) regards Jan

Re: Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread Robert Brenstein
Hi I use several modal stacks to communicate with the user. My first question is: Is there a way to pass informasjon from a modal stack back to the function on the stack that opened it? Like Return? I use a custom property for now check out the dialogData (global) property. When the

Re: Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread Jan Sælid
Ok Sorry I got It now Xavier. You ment Control as a reference to objects. Not the control Keyword. Stupid me. Thanks both to Brenstein and Xavier for the useful suggestions. Thanks alot Xavier (This is really an immensely useful and fast mailing list!!!) I have never used the control

Re: Communication between modal stack and main stack

2005-11-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Jan, I like to encapsulate the entire dialog capability into a single function call. This includes setup and display. For instance. Let's say you want a dialog box which asks the user to select a single line from a list of stuff. And you want also to have a custom prompt. Plus you want an

Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Paul Claude
On 21 feb Joel Guillod asked for this: Is there a way to access to the Mac OS X Address Book from Revolution? I found that RealBasic provides classes to do this so you can read from or write to the Address Book. Someone knows a way to access Address Book or iCal files without using

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread John Tregea
I just called it Hyper-HyperCard Greetings, just joined the list today by the way. Regards John T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution Subject:

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread John Tregea
I remember the original tag line for HyperCard was Freedom to Associate they gave out lots of cool badges with cartoons of things in pairs like dogs and fire hydrants etc. (Boston Macworld in the late 1800's I think it was) :) John T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Erin D. Smale
TJ Frame wrote: That generally gets people up to speed with the understanding that Rev is not a flavor of Java, C++, Visual Basic etc. which a lot of people seem to imediately assume. As someone new to Rev, I can say that: (1) When I read on the Rev website that it was unlike Java, C++, or

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
I too have used the amx system in large installations. not cheap and the amx coding is another world to deal with. usually the amx did the specific control tasks and the rev app is the master controller/user interface communicating via a serial connection. Troy is right, the AMX system does

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread xavier . bury
welcome to the list John T If it is hard to explain rev it is because it does it all :) and that's the beauty of it ;) just do it Xavier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/11/2005 13:41:10: I remember the original tag line for HyperCard was Freedom to Associate they gave out lots of cool

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread David Burgun
I explained it thusly to a fellow C/C++ programmer: Working in the RunRev IDE developing Applications, is like doing open brain sugery with the patient still awake and helping you! If you hit the wrong part of the brain this will cause an involuntary reaction whereby an arm or leg will

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread xavier . bury
Working in the RunRev IDE developing Applications, is like doing open brain sugery with the patient still awake and helping you! If you hit the wrong part of the brain this will cause an involuntary reaction whereby an arm or leg will suddenly fly out and whack you!!! Just my .5 cents

Re: checking removable drives

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Martin Baxter wrote: Perhaps it might be workable to make it a user preference whether your app makes registry entries for its file extensions or not. User-mindset would be an issue to be considered, but this is by no means unheard-of, and I think this is what I would personally prefer from

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Stephen Barncard
iCal uses an industry standard format - and it's XML. The files live in the library somewhere... On 21 feb Joel Guillod asked for this: Is there a way to access to the Mac OS X Address Book from Revolution? I found that RealBasic provides classes to do this so you can read from or write

Dial Phone?

2005-11-04 Thread AbilityForms
Hi Everyone, Is it possible to set up a field so that when you click on a phone number in it the touch tones for the number are broadcast through the computer speaker? Joe, Orlando, Florida ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Dial Phone?

2005-11-04 Thread Stephen Barncard
One has to come up with the tones alone. I just fired up Hypercard 2.4.1 in Classic and played with the tones for a minute. I think the timing was thrown off by the G4, as it would not loop the samples correctly anymore - something in the code times out and the tones go 'da-da' instead of

Re: Strange field wraps with tabs

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard said: ... You mentioned Sort function crashes. No, I said that the Sort command yields unpredictable results when you attempt to use it on strings larger than its documented bounds. This is true of any app where you exceed the limits of the data type being

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Erin- Friday, November 4, 2005, 6:16:55 AM, you wrote: Thanks for the writeup. Nice description. (1) When I read on the Rev website that it was unlike Java, C++, or VB, my interest in Revolution increased about tenfold--from an ease of use Interesting. This is the first report I can remember

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
John- Friday, November 4, 2005, 4:33:55 AM, you wrote: I just called it Hyper-HyperCard Greetings, just joined the list today by the way. Welcome to the list. I find that if someone already knows what HyperCard is then there's no problem. If they don't (most of the managers I talk with when

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Jim- Thursday, November 3, 2005, 5:08:13 PM, you wrote: am done. Cross platform made dead easy... (with emphasis on... well... all of the words.) ...except maybe for dead... g -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Thursday, November 3, 2005, 9:09:59 PM, you wrote: Chris did spend a significant amount of time writing a USB external for both Mac and PC, but after taking a look at the way data is handled through a USB connection, we decided it would take way too much hand-holding tech support to

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mark Wieder wrote: Erin- Friday, November 4, 2005, 6:16:55 AM, you wrote: (2) My next concern was power and ability; a look at the command and and maybe 2.5: I find myself some four to five times as productive writing xtalk as c++ or java. Part of that's getting out of the

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Dom
Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list. I find that if someone already knows what HyperCard is then there's no problem. If they don't (most of the managers I talk with when trying to pitch a project) then they just don't get it. Anybody knows that HyperCard is just a

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Dom
Dom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody knows that HyperCard is just a Rolodex®! understand: *everybody* ;-) -- Maybe correct, also ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dom wrote: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list. I find that if someone already knows what HyperCard is then there's no problem. If they don't (most of the managers I talk with when trying to pitch a project) then they just don't get it. Anybody knows that HyperCard is

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Dan Shafer
So, maybe: For experienced programmers: Cross-platform software made easy For hobbyists/Inventive Users: Tinker Toys to make your computer do the things YOU need And for those with HyperCard awareness: HyperCard on steroids, cross- platform, blazingly fast, in full color

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread David Burgun
The main difference is that if the whole hospital does blow up, it's easy enough to start again (if a pain), e.g. restart the machine/IDE/whatever. But in runrev when you tamper with a stack, you can put it into a state whereby it won't open again! This really that is really strange and

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread David Burgun
So, maybe: For experienced programmers: Cross-platform software made easy The problem is that every other cross platform solution boasts the same slogan! All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread David Bovill
On 4 Nov 2005, at 16:58, Stephen Barncard wrote: iCal uses an industry standard format - and it's XML. The files live in the library somewhere... Not quite - iCal uses the vCal standard. Recent version of iCal uses XML based pList files to created indexes of the wierdly named files - but

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Erin D. Smale wrote: My description of Rev is an RAD tool that lets you construct a GUI as easy as with VB, make it functional with normal language code, and work with all the files, databases, and I/O devices you'd expect it to. Oh, it lets you compile for Windows, MAC, and 'NIX, as well.

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Bovill wrote: I am working on both cVard, vCal and Apple Address Book integration over the last week - should be finished the first beta on Wednesday - any testers? Wanna sell that library? That'd be quite a time-saver. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Paul Claude wrote: On 21 feb Joel Guillod asked for this: Is there a way to access to the Mac OS X Address Book from Revolution? I found that RealBasic provides classes to do this so you can read from or write to the Address Book. Someone knows a way to

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: iCal uses an industry standard format - and it's XML. The files live in the library somewhere... iCal uses iCalendar (aka vCalendar 2.0), which is a industry standard but not XML, iCalendar is the only good format that came out of IBM/

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2005, at 3:29 PM, David Bovill wrote: On 4 Nov 2005, at 16:58, Stephen Barncard wrote: iCal uses an industry standard format - and it's XML. The files live in the library somewhere... Not quite - iCal uses the vCal standard. Recent version of iCal uses XML based pList files to

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread MisterX
So, maybe: For experienced programmers: Cross-platform software made easy The problem is that every other cross platform solution boasts the same slogan! don't say that too fast... :) ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Erin D. Smale
Richard Gaskin wrote: It's somewhere between funny and sad, but I find one thing that impresses folks who have experience programming on Windows is that the Rev engine is self-contained, and unlike VB or ToolBook doesn't require an army of DLLs strewn all over the hard drive. Avoiding

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Reynolds
this is also the feedback i got when i asked a few folks about the possibility of doing usb communications. highly variable depending on the hardware you are talking to. not as simple as the good olde serial signal. Hopefully most things we will want to control will hop over usb to a net

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2005, at 4:22 PM, Erin D. Smale wrote: Avoiding DLL-Hell is a great point to include when I go evangelising. Imagine how much time one saves not writing or supporting them...Imagine how many headaches users will avoid... :-D -Erin I was telling a friend coder this, and then he

Re: How to tell a line from a paragraph?

2005-11-04 Thread Michael
Hi: Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the formattedText property. It gives you back the text of a field with returns inserted where the text is wrapped in the field. Hey, that works great, Geoff! And so simply too... I completely missed that property. Thanks, m

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dom wrote: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the list. I find that if someone already knows what HyperCard is then there's no problem. If they don't (most of the managers I talk with when trying to pitch a project) then they just don't get it. Anybody knows that HyperCard is

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Robert Brenstein
this is also the feedback i got when i asked a few folks about the possibility of doing usb communications. highly variable depending on the hardware you are talking to. not as simple as the good olde serial signal. Hopefully most things we will want to control will hop over usb to a net

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Marty Billingsley
Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] sez: So, maybe: For experienced programmers: Cross-platform software made easy For hobbyists/Inventive Users: Tinker Toys to make your computer do the things YOU need And for those with HyperCard awareness: HyperCard on steroids, cross- platform, blazingly

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Dom
J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who are wondering about this, Dom is refering to comments that Phil Schiller made when I met with him about the decline of HyperCard some years ago. He told me that HyperCard was really just a Rolodex with little programming value, thereby

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Stephen Barncard
On quick glance, I don't think hooking up REV to this thing would be that hard. Looking at this company's broad offerings for OSX and 9, and the fact that they've created software hooks for almost every other programming platform (including HC on OS 9) - They seem open and flexible. I think

yet another really simple question

2005-11-04 Thread Charles Hartman
I should know this, but I can't locate talk I think I've heard about it: I've got a (sub)stack with a couple of buttons and a scrolling, list- behavior field that covers most of the card. I want command-key alternatives to pressing the buttons. I put handlers in the stack script for the

Re: yet another really simple question

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
Charles, there's probably a wiser way to do it than the one I'll tell you now. Put all your key handling functions in a button, use the button as frontscript, it will trap everything, remember to pass the messages to the rest of the message path or your keys will stop working. cheers

Rev and education (Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev)

2005-11-04 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 4, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Marty Billingsley wrote: And what do you say to non-programmers, particularly school administrators who want to know why we should use this product to teach programming? - marty Marty, for school admins try telling this points: 1) Cheap. Compare the prices

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Robert Brenstein
On quick glance, I don't think hooking up REV to this thing would be that hard. Looking at this company's broad offerings for OSX and 9, and the fact that they've created software hooks for almost every other programming platform (including HC on OS 9) - They seem open and flexible. I

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Open-source it? And you can tell me how that will be less tech support for us than selling it? ;-) All kidding aside, even if we open source it, we'll need to document the interface, provide working examples, etc. which is just too much for us to take on at this time. Especially considering

Re: Dial Phone?

2005-11-04 Thread Timothy Miller
I'd also like to dial the phone with a field or button. How about sending dial commands to the machine's native internal modem, then picking up a telephone on same line as modem? Possible? Thanks, Tim One has to come up with the tones alone. I just fired up Hypercard 2.4.1 in Classic

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Yes Jeffrey, you are correct. I think the way to handle USB externals is to right specific externals for specific tasks. For instance a TWAIN USB external which could interface with TWAIN compliant scanners. best, Chipp Jeffrey Reynolds wrote: this is also the feedback i got when i asked a

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Dan Shafer
Tough one, Marty, because there are so many free languages out there that educational administrators' first knee-jerk reaction (as Andre says in his reply) is to look to cost. But if you can get them past that point then I imagine Judy Perry will have some compelling educational arguments

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Chipp Walters
OOPS, typing w/out thinking again. right sic write I need to get Xavier to add grammar checking in his spelling checker. Chipp Walters wrote: Yes Jeffrey, you are correct. I think the way to handle USB externals is to right specific externals for specific tasks. For instance a TWAIN USB

Table Fields

2005-11-04 Thread Timothy Miller
Greetings, A couple of days ago, I asked about table grids or grid tables or something like that. I had my terminology mixed up. No one replied, perhaps because my question was perplexing. I'll try again. I'm asking about the table item in the popup, in the object inspector, for fields.

Re: Table Fields

2005-11-04 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Tim, Table fields in Rev stay not too much documented and, to be frank, don't work as well as expected. May be in a next version :-) In the meantime, you might be interested in a tutorial How to manage table fields you will access thought Tutorials Picker a free plugin that interfaces

Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread Marty Knapp
I have a tab delimited list (8 items per line) of about 65,000 lines. All but 1 item are numbers. I’m trying to set it up so that I can enter up to two operators per item (,=, etc) to find a range of numbers. This search criteria will then be used to evaluate my big list and place the result

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread jbv
Marty , for that amount of data, an SQL DB is also a solution (and perhaps the fastest one)... JB I have a tab delimited list (8 items per line) of about 65,000 lines. All but 1 item are numbers. I’m trying to set it up so that I can enter up to two operators per item (,=, etc) to find a

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread SimPLsol
Marty, I have a number of data set similar to yours. One of them required 2 minutes to build the selected list with repeat with; it took less than 2 seconds with repeat for. It worth the effort to master this type of repeat! Paul Looney ___

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
I have a tab delimited list (8 items per line) of about 65,000 lines. All but 1 item are numbers. I'm trying to set it up so that I can enter up to two operators per item (,=, etc) to find a range of numbers. This search criteria will then be used to evaluate my big list and place the result

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Smith
I tend to exclude rather than include in these situations, so something like this? repeat for each line tLine in tData if word is not in item 2 of tLine then next repeat if item 4 of tLine = 2 then next repeat if item 8 of tLine = 50 OR item 8 of tLine = 500 then next repeat

ANN: altEmailHarness update..

2005-11-04 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi folks, I've updated altEmailHarness (the free wrapper for Sean Shao's free libSmtp library) with the following: 1) You can now specify the port you want to use 2) It now writes the From headers with Name email address just like you favorite email client 3) You can now specify

Re: Controlling External Devices

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Chipp- Friday, November 4, 2005, 12:47:58 PM, you wrote: I think the way to handle USB externals is to right specific externals for specific tasks. For instance a TWAIN USB external which could interface with TWAIN compliant scanners. Sad but true. And TWAIN is still one of my favorite

Application in foreground

2005-11-04 Thread Setec Multimedia
Hello everybody, Is there a way to automaticly put an application or a rev stack on the foreground of the screen after a specified event ? Even if it was behind other apllications such as photoshop etc. Thanks for your answers, Cordialy Aurélien D.

Re: Table Fields

2005-11-04 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 1:08 PM -0800 11/4/2005, Timothy Miller wrote: I've tried trial and error, and tried searching the documentation. I haven't gotten too far. This thing seems more or less undocumented. The various table properties perplex me. I've figured out tab stops. That's about it. Hmmm. There was

Re: checking removable drives

2005-11-04 Thread Martin Baxter
Richard Gaskin wrote: Martin Baxter wrote: Perhaps it might be workable to make it a user preference whether your app makes registry entries for its file extensions or not. User-mindset would be an issue to be considered, but this is by no means unheard-of, and I think this is what I would

Re: Application in foreground

2005-11-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Is there a way to automaticly put an application or a rev stack on the foreground of the screen after a specified event ? Even if it was behind other apllications such as photoshop etc. Thanks for your answers, On Macs you do it using AppleScript: put tell application tAppName quote

Re: checking removable drives

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Martin Baxter wrote: Like Hypercard's magic password, that nobody thought to tell Phil Schiller about. Is that the one that builds rolodex stack automatically? ;) Or the one that spreads rumors about HyperCard's demise that the CEO says are wrong? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor,

Fonts and Revolution

2005-11-04 Thread Garrett R. Hylltun
Greetings, What's the deal on the fonts that we can use in our programs; are we limited to what's in the text formatting list? can we add our own fonts? - If yes, how and what font format? antialias support? Thanks in advance, -Garrett ___

Re: Table Fields

2005-11-04 Thread Timothy Miller
Re this thread, many thanks to Eric and Jeanne! Tim Hi Tim, Table fields in Rev stay not too much documented and, to be frank, don't work as well as expected. May be in a next version :-) In the meantime, you might be interested in a tutorial How to manage table fields you will access

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread Marty Knapp
Mark Smith wrote: I tend to exclude rather than include in these situations, so something like this? repeat for each line tLine in tData if word is not in item 2 of tLine then next repeat if item 4 of tLine = 2 then next repeat if item 8 of tLine = 50 OR item 8 of tLine = 500

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread John Tregea
HyperCard!!! Just a Rolodex!!! I small sampling of projects I did with HyperCard in the 1990's were: Front end to the Singapore Ministry of Defence payroll system (250,000 transactions per month) integrating Oracle and MD Mars imaging system Overdraft management system for Bangkok Bank (linking

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
John Tregea wrote: HyperCard!!! Just a Rolodex!!! I small sampling of projects I did with HyperCard in the 1990's were: Front end to the Singapore Ministry of Defence payroll system (250,000 transactions per month) integrating Oracle and MD Mars imaging system Overdraft management system for

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-04 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Nov 4, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: filter theData with *word* You could probably get just the lines with word in the second item by doing something like this: filter theData with * tab *word* tab * \ tab * tab * tab * tab * tab * If memory serves

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
And, when I recently mentioned it to Chris Crawford of 'The Art of Computer Game Design,' he said that he only wished that he'd heard of Rev before wading neck-deep into Java. Judy On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Dan Shafer wrote: I've been known to call it Java without the Java. Dan

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
Have you mentioned it to Charles Flickinger? Judy On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: Rumors of HyperCard being discontinued at bullsh*t. - Steve Jobs, at the CAUSE conference in Long Beach, CA, 1998 I keep waiting to see the When will Apple come clean? page that has

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
Ayyy, now there's the rub! Well, hmmm... For teaching programming to the K-12 crowd, I'd emphasize that you can teach many basic programming concepts without the overhead of stuff that really should be taught later (such as declaring data types, etc.) along the proven path of the Analytical

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: And, when I recently mentioned it to Chris Crawford of 'The Art of Computer Game Design,' he said that he only wished that he'd heard of Rev before wading neck-deep into Java. You know the great Chris Crawford?! He's a god. Loved Siboot -- nothing like it at the time. He

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
I dunno... maybe I'm at the wrong educational institution, because I can tell you that where I am, admin-types would vastly prefer to pay bucketloads of dollars for something that everybody uses and everybody has heard of as opposed to a validly competitive free product. To wit: from the

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: You know the great Chris Crawford?! He's a god. Loved Siboot -- nothing like it at the time. Well, it's not like we do lunch or anything... he'd probably be hard-pressed to remember my name. I sought him out when I found that his great book was out

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Jim Hurley
Message: 19 Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:17:02 -0800 From: Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
Another physics major?!!! (Jeanne's a successful one, I'm a flunk-out). @;-) Judy On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Jim Hurley wrote: Richard and Judy, I suspect this is the same Chris Crawford that was a physics major at UC Davis many years back. I never had him as a student but he was legendary

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, November 4, 2005, 6:17:02 PM, you wrote: You know the great Chris Crawford?! He's a god. Loved Siboot -- nothing like it at the time. Now that's a name I haven't heard in years. I did a quick search: Siboot II is available here: http://www.erasmatazz.com/free.html

Re: Chris Crawford [was: Why It's Hard to Explain Rev]

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Judy Perry wrote: I told him that if he'd ever used Hypercard and didn't hate the HC type of programming environment, he should check out Rev. He replied that he was a real HC fan and echoed the sentiment many of us had regarding Apple letting it die. But Apple didn't let it die. Remember

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: Erasmatron 4 is being rebuilt from the ground up in Java in order to enable full cross-platform compatibility. http://www.erasmatazz.com/Erasmatron4/Erasmatron4.html It's not too late to discover what true cross-platform compatibility is like... looking at the Deikto

Re: Chris Crawford [was: Why It's Hard to Explain Rev]

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: I wonder if he'd be willing to open the source for Trust and Betrayal to see if one of the energetic souls here would be willing to port it to Rev. snip Judging from a quick look at his Erazmatron at

Re: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread Judy Perry
Exactly. Judy On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote: If he can build it faster in Rev and the end-user experience is at least as good (probably better since he could use all the time he saves coding beefing up the UI), it would seem he'd come out ahead overall.

Tabbeb Panel Behaviour

2005-11-04 Thread John Tregea
Hi All, Thanks for the list welcome(s). I have struck a funny interface behaviour and wondered if someone can suggest how to stop it. I have a card that has three tab panels on it. If I click on say tab 2 of panel 1 it behaves as I would expect. That is the tab comes forward and the orange

Re: Application in foreground

2005-11-04 Thread Ken Ray
On 11/4/05 5:22 PM, Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to automaticly put an application or a rev stack on the foreground of the screen after a specified event ? Even if it was behind other apllications such as photoshop etc. Thanks for your answers, On Macs you do

Constrain Within Circle?

2005-11-04 Thread Scott Rossi
Anyone have a formula to constrain object dragging within a circular region? I'm guessing something like Arcade Engine has this in it, but I really only need this one function. Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:

RE: Constrain Within Circle?

2005-11-04 Thread MisterX
I haven't worked all the geometry functions available yet ;) don't know the arcade engine but here's a good source: http://www.2dcurves.com/conicsection/conicsectionc.html that's the place for curves ;) other wise wolfram's reference is absolutely great. but coming to thing of it, my pie

RE: [Slightly OT?] Why It's Hard to Explain Rev

2005-11-04 Thread MisterX
This is very TAOO ish... Mark Wieder wrote: Erasmatron 4 is being rebuilt from the ground up in Java in order to enable full cross-platform compatibility. http://www.erasmatazz.com/Erasmatron4/Erasmatron4.html It's not too late to discover what true cross-platform

RE: Application in foreground

2005-11-04 Thread MisterX
Ken great vbs line. Can I add it as a contribution (fully credited by you) to TAOO? in return I'll let you know where to find the TAOO vbs library ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ray Sent: Saturday, November

Re: Dial Phone?

2005-11-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Timothy Miller wrote: I'd also like to dial the phone with a field or button. How about sending dial commands to the machine's native internal modem, then picking up a telephone on same line as modem? Possible? Yup: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg10455.html