Stange occurance with Variable Watcher

2005-11-09 Thread Jim Ault
Hi, All, Hmmm, not sure what to think... it is late and I have cruised through a lot of programming tasks the last several days, nothing to do with Rev. Mac OSX, Tiger 10.4.2, Rev 2.6.1 and suddenly Variable Watcher does not show values, but just repeats the variable names on the right side

Re: Stange occurance with Variable Watcher

2005-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
Jim You can always try the updated version i posted last week. It sure fixed lots of issues i had with the VW in the last rev release. - columns are corrected (dont need resizing each time you open it) - globals of type array show up correctly when not debugging. - other minor improvements Im

Re: [OT] Daylight Savings (Was Re: Scripting conference stack

2005-11-09 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Mark, Klaus- Tuesday, November 8, 2005, 2:39:02 PM, you wrote: well, took me a bit longer since I am a german native speaker and know how to pronounce Adenauer correctly :-) ...then you must be familiar with his comrade, Evenanauer... no, sorry, not really :-) But we may be reaching

Re: Finding non-common elements in two arrays

2005-11-09 Thread Wouter
Hi again, A little update on the intersectSpecial function -- a bit speedier and 3 results in 1 array function intersectSpecial pListA,pListB,@pR if char -1 of pListA is not cr then put cr after pListA replace cr with tab 1 cr in pListA split pListA with cr and tab repeat for each

Re: Testing Standards

2005-11-09 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark, Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. I have spent the last week and a half going over the specifications and using our Rev project as proof of concept. Since we are using an outside company for the coding, they have a person doing the use-case scenarios and specs.

Re: Re: Testing Standards

2005-11-09 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Tom, Do you recommend any 'good' books on this process? Maybe on what to expect in the specs? Maybe what is most often left out and or what most often causes the most problems? maybe you like this arcticle by Joel on Software. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog36.html

Re: Best Practices

2005-11-09 Thread Erin D. Smale
Hi John, That would be Andre's commentary--I'm still getting through the primer myself. That said, you can get it here: http://www.swcp.com/dsc/revstacks.html -- Erin Check out The Chimera RPG: http://www.welshpiper.com John Tregea wrote: Hi, Erin, I was interested in your comments

Re: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Tim, I would like to know whether you have solved the problem you had with debugging background scripts. If not, feel free to send you stack to me. You can also add your (very good) analysis to bug 329 of the Bugzilla database. In my view, the debugger should never just drop out of debug

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-09 Thread Marty Knapp
filter theData with * tab *word* tab * \ tab * tab * tab * tab * tab * I've been tinkering with this a bit and wanted to ask a few more questions. Again, my data set is 8 items with all but one being a number. I need to be able to select a subset by analysing 1 or more of

RE: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
On Behalf Of Mark Schonewille In my view, the debugger should never just drop out of debug mode. It should give some feedback to tell the user why it can't continue debugging. If we can figure out what happened with your stack, maybe RunRev can add some proper error handling in the

How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Jan Sælid
Hi Folks The more I program the more I want to customize my app, to make it look and work like I want it to. As an example I want to build a custom tab panel. What I'm curious about is how the built in tab panel in the tools palette is built. And where the script for those built in controls

RE: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
The non-debug mode of the debugger is much needed for globals debugging. Alas it doesn't do arrays (unless you get a new mod release I mentioned earlier...) sorry - non related - I qui pro quo'd Mark and my brain didn't register something! No rant or anything meant... I just spent a big

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 9, 2005, at 2:36 PM, Jan Sælid wrote: Hi Folks The more I program the more I want to customize my app, to make it look and work like I want it to. As an example I want to build a custom tab panel. What I'm curious about is how the built in tab panel in the tools palette is built.

Your quarterly reminder about Open Directory

2005-11-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
This is your quarterly Open Directory reminder: Open Directory maintains a category for Transcript: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Transcript/ Of the many dozens of web sites offering Transcript-based plugins, tutorials, tools, and more, only 26 have been posted there to date.

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Jan, With the contextual menus: 1. Open the Rev Preferences (general pane) and check the Contextual menus work in Revolution windows. 2. Use the contextual menu (ctrl/right click) on any object in the IDE to access its properties and its script. With the App Browser: 1. Check the

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Marty Knapp wrote: I've been tinkering with this a bit and wanted to ask a few more questions. Again, my data set is 8 items with all but one being a number. I need to be able to select a subset by analysing 1 or more of these items. My current data set is approx 128,000 records. When I

Re: Testing Standards

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Tom- Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 6:16:12 AM, you wrote: Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for. I have spent the last week and a half going over the specifications and using our Rev project as proof of concept. Since we are using an outside company for the coding, they have a

Re: Sound in Linux

2005-11-09 Thread Girard Damien
Revolution support only Xanim under linux. You can vote to this enhancement request for the support of an another media player under linux. (Mplayer by exemple or the Xine lib engine). http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1363 Regards, Damien Girard Le samedi 05 novembre 2005

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-09 Thread David Bovill
On 6 Nov 2005, at 19:52, woodywoodpecker wrote: Do you use Applescript or have you find a way to read the AddressBook.data?? AppleScript. Also it reads and writes to a shared LDAP address book and I am trying to figure out a simple way to store xtra metadata in the Apple Address Book

Re: Synchronization puzzle.

2005-11-09 Thread David Bovill
I'd be interested in this for the Address Book app I'm working on. Not addressed the issue of data synchronisation in any depth yet... On 8 Nov 2005, at 18:22, Dave LeYanna wrote: I was searching the archives looking for some information about a PIM lib or stack that may be available and

Re: Access Address Book or iCal

2005-11-09 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:30 PM, David Bovill wrote: On 6 Nov 2005, at 19:52, woodywoodpecker wrote: Do you use Applescript or have you find a way to read the AddressBook.data?? AppleScript. Also it reads and writes to a shared LDAP address book and I am trying to figure out a simple way to

Re: Synchronization puzzle.

2005-11-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
David Bovill wrote: I'd be interested in this for the Address Book app I'm working on. Not addressed the issue of data synchronisation in any depth yet... The stack is now on revonline (username alextweedly, category: General), called something like Networked Address Book. The synch

Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Ton Kuypers
hi, I have a small problem, which probably someone has solved a long time ago... I have a header above a field with columns of data. The amount of columns are different each time, the header above the field will differ also each time. I now would like to sort the items in the field, when

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Jan Sælid
Thank you both Eric and Andre Now that I have opened the IDE stacks for reading, I guess I will be occupied for a couple of weeks:-) I'd still like an answer to one of my questions though. (If there is one. I'm sure there is...) the built in (IDE stack) tab panel is actually a button. How

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Jan, Could you be more precise: what do you call the 'the built in (IDE stack) tab panel'? Le 9 nov. 05 à 21:45, Jan Sælid a écrit : Thank you both Eric and Andre Now that I have opened the IDE stacks for reading, I guess I will be occupied for a couple of weeks:-) I'd still like

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Jan Sælid
Hi again Eric (Thanks for the patience) I mean the Tab panel that you drag from tools to your stack when you want a tab-panel. When I look at the properties this is a button. How is this possible? If you want to do build a tab panel from the ground up you usually have make a group or multiple

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Andre Garzia
On Nov 9, 2005, at 7:22 PM, Jan Sælid wrote: Hi again Eric (Thanks for the patience) I mean the Tab panel that you drag from tools to your stack when you want a tab-panel. When I look at the properties this is a button. How is this possible? If you want to do build a tab panel from the

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Ton, If I understand correctly: Your headers are the first line of your field and not buttons or something else placed above the field? If it's the case, you can: 1. Set the style of each header to link 2. Set the underlineLinks property of your stack to false 3. Set the different link

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Jan, One add-up to the excellent reply from Andre: all these buttons use images as icons. You will find them in the revIcons stack (use the app browser as I told you yet :-) to see all originals of them. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 9 nov. 05 à 22:27, Andre Garzia a écrit :

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread Jan Sælid
So... If I understand this right the Tab Panel is just a button. And the face of the button is what changes. Ok. But...The face? What is the face made of? Polygons? Lines? The reason I'm making a fuzz about this is that I would really like to make a button that behaves like that, instead of

Re: Fwd: Revolution and SERVICE USB -hardware control with REV

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Stephen, There is definitely a difference in performance. If you need to read from the Service USB device every few milliseconds --something between 50 and 100 millisecs-- to get accurate results, you just can't do that with a simple do as AppleScript command, but you can with a good

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Ton Kuypers
:-))) Eric, thanks!!! I've never used the link-stuff and had no idea where to start, but you got me going, I've solved the challenge thanks to you! many thanks again, Ton. On 9-nov-05, at 22:29, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Ton, If I understand correctly: Your headers are the first line of

Re: Synchronization puzzle - take care!

2005-11-09 Thread David Bovill
Thanks for posting this Alex - word of warning and feature request for RunRev - or is as ever there a way I haven't spotted? First the warning - downloading the stack Networked Address Book from revOnline automatically asked me to locate x,y, z - can't remember - to which I naturally said

Re: Synchronization puzzle - take care!

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi David, Just use the contextual menu as I explained it in a previous post to Jan (4 hours ago) and toplevel the answer dialogue :-) All is now accessible... If you are asked to save the dialogue when closing it, just don't save it ;-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. Le 9 nov.

Re: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread Timothy Miller
Hi Mark, I found a workaround. I can debug a bg script with no problem as long as I do it from card 1 of that bg. Otherwise, the debugger window opens, but it does not debug. Several subscribers have replicated the problem, and the workaround. It's not a big deal if you know the workaround.

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Or you could use Altuit's wonderful altFieldHeader plugin (http:// www.altuit.com) which automates this whole process quite neatly. On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Ton, If I understand correctly: Your headers are the first line of your field and not buttons or

[ANN] Smart Script Search

2005-11-09 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi all, I have uploaded to Rev Online (user: So Smart Software) a little utility I wrote for my needs but which might appear useful. This utility parses all scripts in any open stack in order to find all lines where any string is present AND any another one is absent. For instance, if you

Re: How is the built-in controls made?

2005-11-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jan Sælid wrote: So... If I understand this right the Tab Panel is just a button. And the face of the button is what changes. Ok. But...The face? What is the face made of? Polygons? Lines? The reason I'm making a fuzz about this is that I would really like to make a button that behaves like

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Ton Kuypers
Dan, I'd love to try it, but where can I find it on your site? greetings, Ton On 9-nov-05, at 23:30, Dan Shafer wrote: Or you could use Altuit's wonderful altFieldHeader plugin (http:// www.altuit.com) which automates this whole process quite neatly. On Nov 9, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Eric

RE: serios problem with sql command

2005-11-09 Thread Harvey Toyama
Hi Alessandro, If this is your code, get revOpenDatabase (MySQL,localhost,Gestionale,alessandropisoni,) revExecuteSQL it,INSERT INTO Anagrafica (id, Codice) values (NULL, 22) then it looks like you forgot the semicolon, e.g., revExecuteSQL it,INSERT INTO Anagrafica (id, Codice) values (NULL,

Metacard user

2005-11-09 Thread John Vokey
Yup, me. On 9-Nov-05, at 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there anyone still using Metacard? cheers Xavier -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -Dr. John R. Vokey

The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
I almost labeled this post off-topic since our purpose here is to discuss how to use Revolution. But I decided on balance that it affects everyone here, so I left off the [OT]. I've just posted a blog entry at http://www.eclecticity.com/.3c66aaec that I believe should be of interest to

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
It's not on my site. I'm just one of the Rev guys hanging out here. Chipp Walters did this cool plugin. You can find a link to it at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginCover/about.htm Once there, click on the Download Plugins link in the left column and follow the directions.

Re: Slow screen refresh in Windows

2005-11-09 Thread Cubist
sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try using a JPEG, they are much smaller - that same routine runs in 91 milliseconds when using a JPEG set at quality level 10 in Photoshop (which is nearly loseless). In fact for on-screen use you can save a JPEG down to about 5 in Photoshop without any serious degradation

Re: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread Timothy Miller
Hi Mark, I guess I submitted BZ report #3086, on 8-26-2005. I think I've upgraded to 2.6.1 since then. I originally isolated the problem in 2.5. It does seem to resemble bug 329, doesn't it? Maybe Rev should consider putting up a workaround page for issues like this, when workarounds are

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: My prediction -- based on a lot of evidence and clinched by two leaked Microsoft memos that you really need to read (they're indirectly linked in my blog entry) -- is that the days of the desktop app are indeed finally numbered. At best, we will see desktops reduced to

Imitated multi-thread

2005-11-09 Thread Hershel Fisch
Hello, is there a possibility to imitate a multi-thread by using a few separate stand alones ? If yes how, if not what yes? Thanks, Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Brian Maher
Dan, The company I work for tried this model (application service provider .. i.e. you rent the software) and it did not work well at all. The simple fact is that people will always want to own both their data and the app that manipulates it. Will some people use this? Yes. Will most

Re: serios problem with sql command

2005-11-09 Thread Hershel Fisch
On 11/3/05 8:35 AM, Alessandro Pisoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like u r missing the ' surrounding the values. Hershel Bye i have an serios problem with the command revExecuteSQL !!! not work into my db sql. get revOpenDatabase (MySQL,localhost,Gestionale,alessandropisoni,) //

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Andre Garzia
Dan, I was going to comment this on your blog, but I fell this will be a big email and I know blog comment engines are not suited for this (by the way, where is your RSS feed?). I read the memos and I follow slashdot, osnews and a couple other sites with religious practice, I also am a

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
The fact that one such effort failed -- or even that a bunch of such efforts failed -- is irrelevant in the face of the new market realities. Particularly the ad supported software model is one that I think has a tremendous amount of potential to be disruptive. Some people may well want to

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Richard You said, quoting from your wonderful Beyond the Browser piece: Many articles have been published extolling the virtues of Browser-based applications, but few (if any) of these were written in one...” Beg to differ. The Winer blog post that released these articles, the

RE: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread John Tregea
Hi Dan, Thanks for this posting, I have now subscribed to your blog. While I am here I wanted to say that your HyperCard Scripting book was an absolute gem. It was a pleasure to read and a perfectly structured reference for the environment. I am looking forward to getting as much pleasure from

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: And if you haven't yet seen Writely, I suggest you check it out; the day of the service- based word processor is soon to be here. I did. One word: Eeewww. :) As for the getting illustrators to draw in a web browser, or anyone else to let Microsoft force them to hand

about drag an image...

2005-11-09 Thread Andre Garzia
folks, I can't seem to recall but I think there was some really easy way to allow a user to drag a image control around some card, just like click and drag, as if he was on development mode... I just want do be able to toogle a drag mode so that the user can re-org some controls on the

Re: about drag an image...

2005-11-09 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Andre Garzia wrote: I can't seem to recall but I think there was some really easy way to allow a user to drag a image control around some card, just like click and drag, as if he was on development mode... I just want do be able to toogle a drag mode so that the user can re-org

Re: Synchronization puzzle - take care!

2005-11-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
David Bovill wrote: Thanks for posting this Alex - word of warning and feature request for RunRev - or is as ever there a way I haven't spotted? First the warning - downloading the stack Networked Address Book from revOnline automatically asked me to locate x,y, z - can't remember - to

Re: Repeat for each

2005-11-09 Thread Marty Knapp
Alex Tweedly wrote: Marty Knapp wrote: I've been tinkering with this a bit and wanted to ask a few more questions. Again, my data set is 8 items with all but one being a number. I need to be able to select a subset by analysing 1 or more of these items. My current data set is approx

Re: Slow screen refresh in Windows

2005-11-09 Thread TJ Frame
Well large solid color spaces surrounded by text will show show a bit of artifacting at level 5, but for most photos 5 or 6 is fine. Besides you can always bump it up if you need better quality. Either way they are way faster than using BMPS, at least on my system. On 11/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Andre Actually, my blog accommodates arbitrarily large posts and comments, but it's fine that you reply here. On Nov 9, 2005, at 4:10 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: (by the way, where is your RSS feed?) On the left side of the page there's a large orange XML button that will get you my

RE: Imitated multi-thread

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
Hi Hershel Yes it's possible. You can do so via sockets or files or sql to communicate among the different parts of your applications. Note that each method has it's advantages and inconveniences. cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com/taoo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: examples accepting appleevents

2005-11-09 Thread Jim Ault
Hello, On 11/6/05 8:55 PM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am doing that right now, if you want I can build a sample stack for you and send to you tomorrow (it's 2:53 AM now, am not thinking well) It has been a few days now, and I was wondering if Andre actually did write the sample

RE: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
Hi Dan The link in the article http://www.scriptiong.com is not working cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 00:42 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Find the item a user

RE: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
We have the dreamcard player which is the most advanced and friendly thing ever. Before the dreamcard player, I used REBOL and REBOL had a browser plugin which was nice, there was also another solution called CURL, even Squeak could load modules on demand and be very user friendly. Even

Re: Find the item a user clicked on...

2005-11-09 Thread Dan Shafer
Thanks. Fixed. Dan On Nov 9, 2005, at 8:13 PM, MisterX wrote: Hi Dan The link in the article http://www.scriptiong.com is not working cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 00:42

focus on group

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
Hi everyone, Hoping for a solution... I got the xosmedialib stack which has a group showing images in a scrollable grid. The grid is 2D, x columns by y rows. You can click on an image in the group (or a list of the images) and it selects the image in the group. The selection is shown with a

RE: Buggy debugger -- solved?

2005-11-09 Thread MisterX
I don't know if this is related but I think I found a serious engine bug put the selectedtext of btn view of grp Objects I have a btn view of group objects and also a btn View of grp Index of grp Objects... And this last one is the one that gets called!!! There's a possible problem with

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Dan Shafer wrote: The fact that one such effort failed -- or even that a bunch of such efforts failed -- is irrelevant in the face of the new market realities. Particularly the ad supported software model is one that I think has a tremendous amount of potential to be disruptive. I hope

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Dan, You of course know, I'm with Richard and Andre on this. Perhaps even further left of them. My experience with Application Service Providers tell me it's very difficult to persuade the enterprise to take advantage of such technologies, especially from outside the firewall. And if

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Chipp Walters
MisterX wrote: Andre, you are very right but a dreamcard application can be just as unsafe or malignous as any spyware or trojan. Ajax is supposed to be safe and im sure many industry standards will evolve to support that. It has been a requirement for Java, javascript, I don't see it

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Dan- Wednesday, November 9, 2005, 4:16:42 PM, you wrote: There is no necessary connection between where data is and where the app is. That's just today's temporary model. That may be true, but according to UNESCO's 3 November report on Knowledge versus Information Societies 11 percent of the

Re: serios problem with sql command

2005-11-09 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 11/3/05 3:35 PM, Alessandro Pisoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alessandro, Bye i have an serios problem with the command revExecuteSQL !!! not work into my db sql. revExecuteSQL it,INSERT INTO Anagrafica (id, Codice) values (NULL, 22) // not write in my db and in my table why? i

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread xavier . bury
Chipp said MisterX wrote: Andre, you are very right but a dreamcard application can be just as unsafe or malignous as any spyware or trojan. Ajax is supposed to be safe and im sure many industry standards will evolve to support that. It has been a requirement for Java,

Re: The Disappearing Desktop - It's Real This Time

2005-11-09 Thread Judy Perry
Chipp, Amen! Judy On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Chipp Walters wrote: Programs like Claris Impact, Claris CAD, MORE, the old versions of Flash which were easy to script, MacWrite, MacPaint and MacDraw. Some of these STILL have no equal (imo, mostly thanks to the illegal efforts of MS). That's where