Re: sending hexadecimal control characters, how to?

2009-12-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 12/4/09 9:59 AM, Phil Davis wrote: Hey Andre - What if the software is published in a different country? Then it would seem like the Brazilian control freak... ummm, government wouldn't be able to control it, at least not in the same way. A control freak mentality is something that is

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread viktoras d.
what about using task/code examples from http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..) will still have to write quality examples in Rev which would be a challenge :-) Quality of the code there is good enough as computer language benchmarks game aims to create the shortest

Re: CMYK Jpeg's

2009-12-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 4/12/09 00:01, Ray Horsley wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a glaring omission on the part of the Runrev engine not to display Jpeg's in CMYK or even provide a manner for detecting them. You are not wrong. (I always like to answer rhetorical questions, even if they're only

Quicktime VR panorama movies in revlets

2009-12-04 Thread BNig
Currently it is not possible to display panorama movies (VR) in revlets. (Report #8294 in QCC by Jacqueline) Over on the Runrev forum Dixie found an approach that I expanded on (http://forums.runrev.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=9t=4479) and it turns out it is a quite satisfactory solution, not as

Interesting article in revUp!

2009-12-04 Thread Dom
Briefly: http://www.runrev.com/newsletter/december/issue83/newsletter3.php?id=NW 083S09630 A little longer: Passing Data from a Webpage to your Plugin After reading some lines, I understood that plugin = revlet ;-) Unless I am wrong? Nonetheless, this is a very interesting article, we need

OT: iPhone as tricorder

2009-12-04 Thread Kurt Kaufman
Perhaps of interest: http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/11/the-iphone-tricorder-version-1.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Dom
Bill Marriott w...@wjm.org wrote: It's not that we find the Player to be adding so much functionality; nothing to do with business model per se. It's that the revWeb plugin is essentially the new Player. Better to focus on having one piece of software end users would install to play stacks

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Andre Garzia
George, Create your own html after the revlet is built is the best option. If I were you, I would not bother changing the html that rev generates, I would instead build new htmls from the scratch. I think rev sends a message after the revlet is built, this could trigger the new html creation.

Re: CMYK Jpeg's

2009-12-04 Thread Ray Horsley
Thanks for confirming this Ben. I'm going to forward this to the Improve list. Ray Horsley LinkIt! Software On Dec 4, 2009, at 2:58 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: On 4/12/09 00:01, Ray Horsley wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a glaring omission on the part of the Runrev engine

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi all, George, Create your own html after the revlet is built is the best option. If I were you, I would not bother changing the html that rev generates, I would instead build new htmls from the scratch. I think rev sends a message after the revlet is built, this could trigger the new

Re: Forgotten how to deal with unicode

2009-12-04 Thread David Bovill
No - well at least it was not working for me (nor were the other forms of getting the text from the field). I am wandering exactly what is happening when I copy and paste the url from the browser - if behind the scenes it is url or utf8 encoded or something? I've skipped over this issue for now -

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Andre Garzia
I don't think it does because my javascript doesn't pass it and it works. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote: Hi all, George, Create your own html after the revlet is built is the best option. If I were you, I would not bother changing the html

Re: Simultaneous Animations...

2009-12-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada
If memory serves well, Scott Raney used this game in his Demo stack for the creation of Externals (DLLs) in MetaCard. Björnke von Gierke wrote: i think someone made a version of life once, but that one may seem random and actually isn't. so maybe that's not what you're after?

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Bill Marriott
This is a very useful comment, Viktoras! I still want code. I will give a shiny new RunRev mug to the first five people who submit plausible, actual code samples to me according to my original request. - Bill viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net wrote in message

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Andre, I don't think it does because my javascript doesn't pass it and it works. I meant the embedding HTML. If not, what is the UUID good for? On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.comwrote: Hi all, George, Create your own html after the revlet is built is

How do I construct a scroll bar for stack larger than screen

2009-12-04 Thread Kresten Bjerg
With the arrival of cheap mini-notebooks with vertical screensize only 600, I need to permit users of my electronic diary standalones to see the bottom fourth of the daycard. Its not a matter of scrolling inside fields, but moving top of stack up in the invisible, to reach displays and

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Andre Garzia
I think the plugin will not load two revlets with the same UUID on the same instance... On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Klaus on-rev kl...@major.on-rev.com wrote: Hi Andre, I don't think it does because my javascript doesn't pass it and it works. I meant the embedding HTML. If not, what

Re: How do I construct a scroll bar for stack larger than screen

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Swindell
It seems you'd want to group them and scroll the group. Mark On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Kresten Bjerg wrote: With the arrival of cheap mini-notebooks with vertical screensize only 600, I need to permit users of my electronic diary standalones to see the bottom fourth of the daycard.

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread Dom
Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: I think the plugin will not load two revlets with the same UUID on the same instance... Interesting point! One could imagine two revlets talking to each other on the same page... For instance (its my hobby for now ;-)) a revlet showing a series of

Re: Simultaneous Animations...

2009-12-04 Thread Luis
Hiya, There was another animation library, but the name escapes me (and that doesn't help with a search...). Anyone got the link? I think it was a UK based site. Cheers, Luis. On 4 Dec 2009, at 15:02, Alejandro Tejada wrote: If memory serves well, Scott Raney used this game in his Demo

Re: Caching problem with revlets

2009-12-04 Thread Martin Baxter
Richard, Yes do read the article. It may clarify, and details a number of methods and their pros and cons. Using htaccess files with apache is only one of the possibilities discussed there. However the article seems to be written in French today. It was in English yesterday, honestly. I think

RE: Simultaneous Animations...

2009-12-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
There was another animation library, but the name escapes me (and that doesn't help with a search...). Anyone got the link? I think it was a UK based site. A little horn toot Sorry for the late reply - huge Christmas projects. Franklin 3D has a 2D animated sprite system. A huge advantage

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Kevin Miller
On 04/12/2009 10:57, viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net wrote: what about using task/code examples from http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..) will still have to write quality examples in Rev which would be a challenge :-) Quality of the code there is good enough as

Re: Simultaneous Animations...

2009-12-04 Thread Luis
Hiya, Well the site (which if anyone has the link, please post it!) has an animation library that for the original poster's question would assist in learning a bit more on the 'vanilla' side of animation through rev. On Franklin3D: Will it include the irrKlang Audio component in the

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III
FYI, there are typo's and mistakes throughout this pdf. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software 3mcgr...@comcast.net iTunes Library Suite - libITS Information and download can be found on this page: http://www.lazyriversoftware.com/RevOne.html On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Kevin Miller wrote:

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: I think the plugin will not load two revlets with the same UUID on the same instance... I thought the UUID was an identifier for browsers. The UUID is the same for all HTML pages that revlets generate. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dom wrote: Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com wrote: I think the plugin will not load two revlets with the same UUID on the same instance... Interesting point! One could imagine two revlets talking to each other on the same page... For instance (its my hobby for now ;-)) a revlet showing a

getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread Durgesh Mishra
How can I get height of text in a text box in pixels ? Thanks beforehand, Kind Regards -Durgesh O Mishra ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Durgesh, Use the formattedHeight property. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer Download Strõm Flow Chart Software http://flowproject.economy-x-talk.com Op 4

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread Durgesh Mishra
Thanks a lot Mark. 2009/12/5 Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com Hi Durgesh, Use the formattedHeight property. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread DunbarX
Mark. I am missing something here. The question was about the height of text in pixels, which is the textHeight. The formattedText has to do with line wrapping, that is, physical lines versus formatted lines. An old, old HC XFCN called wordwrap inserted return characters at the appropriate

RevOnline update: Engine Search plugin

2009-12-04 Thread Phil Davis
Hi folks, Just a quick note to say I updated the Engine Search Rev IDE plugin on RevOnline. This revision uses the address to locate the currently running Rev engine. Previously the plugin located the engine by setting the defaultFolder to empty, which set it to the engine's folder. This

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Craig, Durgesh didn't asked for the height of a single line but for the height of the text. I suppose he could ask again if that doesn't work for him. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread DunbarX
Mark. Oops. FormattedHeight not formattedText. But I still don't see the connection. Craig In a message dated 12/4/09 1:50:55 PM, m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com writes: Hi Durgesh, Use the formattedHeight property. ___ use-revolution

Re: getting height of text in pixels

2009-12-04 Thread DunbarX
Never mind. I see it now. He wanted the height of an arbitrary chunk of text, not the textHeight. Only three posts wasted, too. Craig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: Is it possible to change the revlet embed html?

2009-12-04 Thread George C Brackett
Wow! I've been away and just now returned to read all the great advice and interesting discussion. I've learned a great deal, as is so often the case when the generous people on this list take up a thorny issue. Thanks, all! George On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:00 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Dom wrote:

Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Kenji Kojima
Hi, I expected all Unicode problems were fixed on 3.0. But I cannot use Unicode yet. Version 5 will be soon. One big problem is MacOS menu bar. It happened 2.8.1. Before we did not have this problem. http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=5141 You can see a video.

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Kenji, It seems to work for me. Normally, I complain a lot about Revolution and unicode, but not this time. I did the same what you did in your movie. I use Mac OS X 10.5.8 and tested your stack with Rev 4.0. (Now you'll see it won't work again after I send this e-mail ;-) ) -- Best

Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
Hello folks, I'm in the planning stages of a possible new app which will include populating a Rev Database (SQLite) primarily from a standard Excel based CSV file. What I've run into while doing some research is that that format seems leaves a lot to be desired. It seems that the CSV data that

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Kenji Kojima
Hi Mark, Please switch the language to Japanese? http://www.kenjikojima.com/runrev/bugs/language.jpg This is important. Japanese users do not use English OS. Thanks, -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ On Dec 4, 2009, at 03:40 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Kenji, It seems to

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Schonewille
Kenji, I changed the language first and started Revolution after that. Revolution's application menu is in Japanese now. I didn't restart the computer. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter:

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread Ruslan Zasukhin
On 12/4/09 10:46 PM, David Coker davidoco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, To fight with line breaks, exists such tip As to specify as Field and Line delimiters some odd chars „ µ At least Valentina and mySQL allow this. If SqlLite cannot, you can try to use above dbs as intermediate step.

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Kenji Kojima
Hi Mark, You don't need to restart your Mac. I use MacOS X 10.6.2 and Rev 4.0.0. The first menu ファイル disappears sometimes. This is not only my problem, other Japanese users have this problem too. This is long time trouble for us. We cannot update our stacks to version 3 or 4. Best

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread Björnke von Gierke
normally, csv is a pain in the ass, but Rev tokens trump that ;) you can set the linedelimiter to comma, and the itemdelimter to quote. then you could do something similar to this (great for not having to make special cases for the particular field being empty, lacking quotes, etc.): set

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Kenji Kojima
On Dec 4, 2009, at 04:31 PM, Kenji Kojima wrote: Hi Mark, You don't need to restart your Mac. Sorry, I was not sure MacOS 10.5. You should restart. -- Kenji Kojima http://www.kenjikojima.com/ I use MacOS X 10.6.2 and Rev 4.0.0. The first menu ファイル disappears sometimes. This

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
normally, csv is a pain in the ass, but Rev tokens trump that ;) you can set the linedelimiter to comma, and the itemdelimter to quote. then you could do something similar to this (great for not having to make special cases for the particular field being empty, lacking quotes, etc.): set

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Till Bandi
The bibliography is still missing (if I did not overlook something). Till Am 04.12.2009 um 17:23 schrieb Kevin Miller: On 04/12/2009 10:57, viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net wrote: what about using task/code examples from http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..)

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
David Coker wrote: set the linedelimiter to comma set the itemdelimiter to quote repeat for each line theLine in theCSV put item 1 to -1 of line theLine into theData --do stuff with data here end repeat That is an awesome idea, well worth pursuing... Be careful if there are embedded

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
Hi David, To fight with line breaks, exists such tip As to specify as Field and Line delimiters some odd chars „ µ At least Valentina and mySQL allow this. If SqlLite cannot, you can try to use above dbs as intermediate step. Hello Ruslan, Thank you for you're reply. If I understand

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
Be careful if there are embedded commas inside each quoted section. It will fail for cases like this: one,two,three,four Ouch! The test files I've been working with are chock full of such. The data comes for numerous sources, going back something like ten years, having been produced by

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread Jim Ault
Depending on how big the files are and how quickly they need to be processed, I would recommend you build a scanner that toggles at least two flags. Flag 1 is flgQuoteRunOn as true or false Flag 2 is flgEscapeChar as true or false put false into flgQuoteRunOn put false into flgEscapeChar

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Ault wrote: Just so you know CSV is the second worst format ever invented. They are still searching for worst one, but have not found it yet. ROTFL! There was a huge discussion a couple of years ago on this list about the best way to parse CSV. There weren't any perfect solutions, but

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
Depending on how big the files are and how quickly they need to be processed, I would recommend you build a scanner that toggles at least two flags. Flag 1 is flgQuoteRunOn as true or false Flag 2 is flgEscapeChar as true or false put false into flgQuoteRunOn put false into flgEscapeChar put

Re: Quicktime VR panorama movies in revlets

2009-12-04 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Ben, This revlet works great in Windows XP using Quicktime Alternative. Just curious to know the size in MB of Jacque's QT Panorama. Here takes a while to load the movie. Many thanks for posting this useful handler to the mail list! Alejandro -- View this message in context:

Re: Quicktime VR panorama movies in revlets

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Alejandro Tejada wrote: Just curious to know the size in MB of Jacque's QT Panorama. Here takes a while to load the movie. I didn't have a sample of my own. I reported the problem to the QCC after testing the movie you saw in the revlet, which was sent to the tech queue as part of a support

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Kevin- Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:23:16 AM, you wrote: what about using task/code examples from http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..) will I think that's a great idea. Sorry, Kevin, I think it's a Very Bad Idea. The examples there are hand-coded in each

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread René Micout
Hello Mark, What is var ? René Le 5 déc. 2009 à 00:18, Mark Wieder a écrit : Kevin- Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:23:16 AM, you wrote: what about using task/code examples from http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/. Revcoders (us, runrev ltd?..) will I think that's a great idea. Sorry,

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread David Coker
Hi Richard! If you have it in Excel, can you export it using tab-delimited? Yes sir, been there and tried that several different ways. Unfortunately, that creates issues of a different sort. As a really poor example, this is one of the things I continue to run across after converting to tabbed

Re: Quicktime VR panorama movies in revlets

2009-12-04 Thread BNig
Hi Alejandro, Thanks you. The QTVR is 148 KB (KiloByte) in size, it is hosted on on-rev. So it should not take long to load, and it doesn't here. It was taken from Jacque's submission to the QCC. There must be something else going on if loading takes a while. For me it is nearly instantaneous,

Re: Importing data into RevDB

2009-12-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Coker wrote: Hi Richard! If you have it in Excel, can you export it using tab-delimited? Yes sir, been there and tried that several different ways. Unfortunately, that creates issues of a different sort. As a really poor example, this is one of the things I continue to run across

Re: ICS functions Library

2009-12-04 Thread Sivakatirswami
On Dec 2, 2009, at 3:23 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: Folks, I lost that library when I lost my laptop! :D I will get Sivakatirswami copy and post it online. I made that library ages ago, I am a much better programmer now and probably would have coded it differently, but it works as expected. It

Re: Do you remember Unicode?

2009-12-04 Thread Ron
Thank you Kenji for trying to keep this issue in front of RR in the midst of so many other improvements and innovations. While I appreciate, (really) the wonderful things that 3.0 and 4.0 have brought us, including some unicode fixes, new unicode features (a 'unicodetitle' prop and menu

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Wieder
René- Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:38:19 PM, you wrote: Hello Mark, What is var ? René Oops. Busted. Var was a line I inserted to test the debugger. It was a line in the original Pascal code and has a meaning there, but I forgot to remove it before posting the code here. -- -Mark Wieder

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: René- Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:38:19 PM, you wrote: Hello Mark, What is var ? René Oops. Busted. Var was a line I inserted to test the debugger. It was a line in the original Pascal code and has a meaning there, but I forgot to remove it before posting the code here.

Re: Code Samples/Comparisons

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:08:20 PM, you wrote: There's this too: put 255 into bits put 128 into bits I don't understand what the math does, but I think at least one of those lines is redundant. ;) Dang! Another typo. Should be put 255 into bits put 128 into bit

[ANN] tRev Feature Friday: drag-n-drop handlers and folders!

2009-12-04 Thread Jerry Daniels
Those following the exploits of tRev, It's another rock 'em / sock 'em Feature Friday! Now you can... - Drag and drop folders and handlers in the handler list. - Edit names of folders and handlers directly in the handler list. - After editing, folder and handler names are updated in the folder

Re: OT OS X HD Partitioning, multiple OSs

2009-12-04 Thread Mark Wieder
sims- Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:30:47 PM, you wrote: How did you partition it? What sizes for each? If you're using VMWare you don't need to set up separate partitions. The VMWare images for different operating systems are just files. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: OT OS X HD Partitioning, multiple OSs

2009-12-04 Thread Jim Ault
Use the option of letting the vmware drive file auto-resize as needed, so start small. In case you find the 160 becomes too small... On my laptop I am doing a lot of video work, so I replaced the 160 Gb 5400 rpm with a 500 Gb 7200 rpm. Very easy to do. Bought the drive for $110, and did

Re: OT OS X HD Partitioning, multiple OSs

2009-12-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 12/5/09 7:30 AM, jim sims wrote: I might be getting a 13 160 GB MacBook Pro I'm thinking of using VMware Fusion to add at least one version of Windows or maybe more. This will hopefully be my travel machine that I want to use for development while away, so I'd like to get all I might

Re: OT OS X HD Partitioning, multiple OSs

2009-12-04 Thread stephen barncard
Depends on the machine. Not so easy on 1st Gen Macbook Pro. It can be done by mortals but ugly,scary disassembly. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev 2009/12/4 Jim Ault jimaultw...@yahoo.com Use the option of letting the vmware drive file