Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-18 Thread Dan Shafer
OK, just between us then we'll call it McGiverOOP. LOL Dan On Oct 17, 2005, at 9:16 PM, MisterX wrote: call it OOP by McGiver made with what he's got! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-18 Thread Jim Ault
There were four scripts standing at a bar waiting for an object. The object tender sent one sliding down and the first script grabbed it and began running in place. It had his name on it and he smiled and was happily employed. H. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 10/17/05 11:11 PM, Dan Shafer

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

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Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-18 Thread xavier . bury
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Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread Dan Shafer
I'm still struggling a bit to grok TAOO as well, Dennis. We've established that it's not extensible in the Smalltalk sense (i.e., by subclassing and overriding methods). It's more like a collection of Rev libraries that go one step beyond the usual libraries by providing a generalized

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread xavier . bury
Dan You can overide or subclass methods. However... Overide happens at the local stack level - you copy the library's method and overide it from the local stack's methods. Subclassing is a bit different: You have a mehod called CreateClient that creates clients. If you wanted to use that to

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread Dan Shafer
OK, good. That's what I understood. Those approaches are not really overriding and subclassing; they are rather copy-paste-tweak methods. NOthing wrong with that, you understand, just that they fall short of pure object orientation. Dan On Oct 17, 2005, at 12:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread Mark Wieder
xavier- Monday, October 17, 2005, 12:09:02 AM, you wrote: Subclassing is a bit different: You have a mehod called CreateClient that creates clients. If you wanted to use that to createClient objects or Companies, you copy the method, rename it and change what you need. I don't see how

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread Dave LeYanna
Maybe he should have said Add what you need, not change what you need whis is what overloading is (I think...) Dave Mark Wieder wrote: xavier- Monday, October 17, 2005, 12:09:02 AM, you wrote: Subclassing is a bit different: You have a mehod called CreateClient that creates clients. If

Approach to explaining TAOO [was ANN: New Website for TAOO]

2005-10-17 Thread Dennis Brown
Xavier, If I truly have got it then I can suggest an approach to explaining it It seems to me that the problem is that you have spent 15 years building a do everything I want program. When you try and explain it, you end up trying to explain everything you have wanted for the last 15

RE: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread MisterX
Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave LeYanna Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:31 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO Maybe he should have said Add what you need, not change what you need whis

RE: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-17 Thread MisterX
call it OOP by McGiver made with what he's got! ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shafer Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:25 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO OK, good. That's what I

RE: Approach to explaining TAOO [was ANN: New Website for TAOO]

2005-10-17 Thread MisterX
] Subject: Approach to explaining TAOO [was ANN: New Website for TAOO] Xavier, If I truly have got it then I can suggest an approach to explaining it It seems to me that the problem is that you have spent 15 years building a do everything I want program. When you try and explain it, you end up

ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread MisterX
Monsieurx.com is being revamped silently into Wiki and without the wacky MisterX's adventure content. You can come and preview the website at http://monsieurx.com/wiki I think you will like it, it's more to the point and I'll be working hard to make it easier to understand... your comments

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Pierre Sahores
Aloha Xavier, Link seems broken ;-/ Best, Pierre Le 16 oct. 05 à 10:02, MisterX a écrit : Monsieurx.com is being revamped silently into Wiki and without the wacky MisterX's adventure content. You can come and preview the website at http://monsieurx.com/wiki I think you will like it,

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Chipp Walters
Yep, I can see it, but can't navigate anywhere. I get Login Error everywhere. Firefox on WinXP Pierre Sahores wrote: Aloha Xavier, Link seems broken ;-/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dennis Brown
Xavier, All I get is Login error, I tried for 15 min to get in, but had to give up... Dennis On Oct 16, 2005, at 4:02 AM, MisterX wrote: Monsieurx.com is being revamped silently into Wiki and without the wacky MisterX's adventure content. You can come and preview the website at

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dennis Brown
Xavier, I just tried again, and this time I can register and log in. Good. Dennis On Oct 16, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Xavier, All I get is Login error, I tried for 15 min to get in, but had to give up... Dennis On Oct 16, 2005, at 4:02 AM, MisterX wrote:

RE: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread MisterX
PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO Xavier, I just tried again, and this time I can register and log in. Good. Dennis On Oct 16, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Xavier, All I get is Login error, I tried for 15 min to get in, but had

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dennis Brown
Xavier, After reading your new introduction on the wiki page. Something clicks. If I understand what TAOO is supposed to be, I can relate it to Forth. Forth is a low level but extensible language and IDE from about 30 years ago. In Forth you write a definition for a named routine

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dan Shafer
Of Dennis Brown Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 6:13 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO Xavier, I just tried again, and this time I can register and log in. Good. Dennis On Oct 16, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Dennis Brown wrote: Xavier, All I get is Login error, I tried

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dan Shafer
Dennis. Gawd, do I hope you're wrong about the parallel with FOrth! :-D Forth and LISP are the only two programming languages I ever attempted to learn and just gave up on. If TAOO is like Forth, I'm going to go back to programming in object assembler. It'll be less painful. (Just

Re: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread Dennis Brown
Dan, I realize that Forth is arcane. However, it is simple to grasp the concept behind it, and it is the only language I ever used (albeit for only a few days 25 years ago), that is inherently extensible (and re-definable). In fact if you don't extend the language, you would have a

RE: ANN: New Website for TAOO

2005-10-16 Thread MisterX
: ANN: New Website for TAOO Xavier, After reading your new introduction on the wiki page. Something clicks. If I understand what TAOO is supposed to be, I can relate it to Forth. Forth is a low level but extensible language and IDE from about 30 years ago. In Forth you write