Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Kotthoff
I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check the serial 
number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like this, have any 
examples of any registry calls...?

Thanks,
Jon
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Kotthoff

Thanks,

You wouldnt happen to have any examples of windows registry calls, I am a 
mac guy buy defenition so know little about the paths that I am trying to 
call...All I know in this last minute issue is that I have to verify a USB 
keys serial number on windows, and the way I have been asked to do it is by 
calling the windows registry...being that I want to get back to Java and my 
Mac, I thought I would see if I could pilfer some good ol Rev code, rather 
than learn the dirty little secrets of windows...


Thanks,
jon
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Jon

look at the rev help for registry

The only thing you can't do is list a registry's sub-items but if you have
the full path to the node you need
it's pretty easy.

GetRegistry?

no... it couldnt' be that simple...

look for

QueryRegistry

and

SetRegistry
DeleteRegistry etc...

cheers
Xavier

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I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check
the serial number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like
this, have any examples of any registry calls...?

Thanks,
Jon
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Re: # POSSIBLY SPAM #::Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
Jon

look at the rev help for registry

The only thing you can't do is list a registry's sub-items but if you have 
the full path to the node you need
it's pretty easy.

GetRegistry?

no... it couldnt' be that simple...

look for

QueryRegistry

and 

SetRegistry
DeleteRegistry etc...

cheers
Xavier

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 I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check 
 the serial number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like 
 this, have any examples of any registry calls...?
 
 Thanks,
 Jon
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Re::Anybody have any examples of reading the Windows Registry

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
Jon

I can't give you the path to your USB info in the registry as this a 
user/type/vendor/keys/params/format
dependent path/info.

However, if you type windows registry in your search engine, you'll find 
more than anyone can swallow!
Dont be scared...

look for the links pointing to either technet or support.microsoft.com 
where they provide ample information
on all the hierarchies you need to know. 

for example:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256986/EN-US/

Also if you type Regedit in the run... of your start menu, you can browse 
it easily like a file explorer.

BEWARE of changing stuff in the registry you can really bust the OS if not 
done carefully...

cheers
Xavier



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 09:35:24:

 Thanks,
 
 You wouldnt happen to have any examples of windows registry calls, I am 
a 
 mac guy buy defenition so know little about the paths that I am trying 
to 
 call...All I know in this last minute issue is that I have to verify a 
USB 
 keys serial number on windows, and the way I have been asked to do it is 
by 
 calling the windows registry...being that I want to get back to Java and 
my 
 Mac, I thought I would see if I could pilfer some good ol Rev code, 
rather 
 than learn the dirty little secrets of windows...
 
 Thanks,
 jon
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  Jon
 
  look at the rev help for registry
 
  The only thing you can't do is list a registry's sub-items but if you 
have
  the full path to the node you need
  it's pretty easy.
 
  GetRegistry?
 
  no... it couldnt' be that simple...
 
  look for
 
  QueryRegistry
 
  and
 
  SetRegistry
  DeleteRegistry etc...
 
  cheers
  Xavier
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 09:22:56:
 
  I need to be able to read the windows Registry using rev, to check
  the serial number of a USB device...anybody ever done anything like
  this, have any examples of any registry calls...?
 
  Thanks,
  Jon
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[HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Martin Baxter

J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents folder 
called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the Enterprise 


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with 
the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a 
serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me this is 
like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year 
old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word my in some way 
not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in 
Perl?


Martin Baxter
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Re: Stack structure, media and memory?

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Ken,


Hi all

I'm seeking advice on stack structure, for a template for a
presentation-type standalone. I'm using R2.7 trial.

The (proposed) app will have a main menu, but I'd like a separate  
navigation

menu, maybe a stack menu with a series of pulldown menu buttons for
navigation (Section 1, page x... etc).

Content will be contained in other stacks (or substacks?).  Each  
stack card
will need to load a large image or a movie (from external  
directory), and
there would be lots of cards.  The cards will also contain text,  
buttons,
drawn objects, animations etc. Text and vector graphics would be  
done in

Rev.

However, I can't find info on what exactly happens to loaded media  
when a
card (or substack) is closed, in terms of memory purging.  I've had  
other
stand alone media-heavy apps hang because of memory overload so  
it's an

issue for me.


All media on a card or in a stack are only loaded when needed and  
unloaded

when you leave the card they were on.

This is because the alwaysbuffer of players and images is set to  
false by default.

And the bufferhiddenimages is also set to false by default.

Check the documentation for an exact definition of these properties.

The Rev pdf manual says If one stack in a stack file is loaded  
into memory,
so are any other stacks in the same stack file. You cannot load one  
stack in
a stack file without loading all the rest at the same time even if  
you open

only one of the stacks.

Questions  (these refer to the behaviour of a standalone app):

1. Am I right to interpret the above quote to mean a stack file  
includes any

substacks, and these are all are loaded when the main stack is ?


Yes.

2.  It isn't possible to purge a substack from memory using  
destroyStack,

even if the substack is closed and another opened ?


Yes (but I am not 100% sure) it is not possible.
This is only possible with separate stacks (files).

3.  So, to purge a stack from memory when it's closed, I would need  
to use

separate main stacks for each section ?


Yes.

4.  So, if it is necessary to use a series of separate stacks,  
these will
not be bundled together into a single file when the standalone is  
built?


Exactly.

Hope that helps :-)


Ken


Regards

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Martin,


J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents  
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the  
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning  
with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already  
have a serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To  
me this is like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I  
am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the  
word my in some way not really mine. Or is this actually a  
dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?


That's exactly what I feel :-D


Martin Baxter


Regards

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Smith
Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came  
from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little  
Pony


Mark

On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents  
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the  
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning  
with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already  
have a serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To  
me this is like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I  
am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the  
word my in some way not really mine. Or is this actually a  
dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?


Martin Baxter
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Eric Chatonet

Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
Fortunately :-)

Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :

Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came  
from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little  
Pony


Mark

On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents  
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the  
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder  
beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought.  
I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My  
Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-),  
eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names  
do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or is  
this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?


Martin Baxter


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
 
--

http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Djames207
 
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Smith

So perhaps they should be known as Mycrosoft :)


On 17 Feb 2005, at 09:59, Eric Chatonet wrote:


Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
Fortunately :-)

Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :

Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix  
came from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My  
Little Pony


Mark

On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents  
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have  
the Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder  
beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the  
thought. I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My  
Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-),  
eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names  
do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or  
is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?


Martin Baxter


Best Regards from Paris,
Eric Chatonet
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Djames207
 
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Djames207
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

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Re: Is SMIL still alive?

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Tom,


I've been looking into smil file format recently, but
1. most things on the net look a little dated.


I am afraid it will go the way of many good solutions/technologies:
Falling into oblivion.


2. QuickTime doesn't seem to like smil files.


I just tested some of the SMIL files iI created with my mkLibSMIL1
and they still work with the QT Player and Rev players.

But please remember that QT only supports a (small) subset of the  
SMIL specification.



3. Firefox dosen't seem to like smil pages


Sorry, never tested SMIL in browsers.

But I think that SMIL files are only supported by some plug-ins and  
not the browser itself.(?)



Is this format losing support?


See above...


thanks


Best from germany

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if not 
narcissist IMOHO ;)

just for the humor of it!!! ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:

 Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
 Fortunately :-)
 
 Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :
 
  Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came 
  from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little 
  Pony
 
  Mark
 
  On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:
 
  J. Landman Gay wrote:
  If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
  folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the 
  Enterprise
 
  I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder 
  beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. 
  I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My 
  Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-), 
  eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names 
  do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or is 
  this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?
 
  Martin Baxter
 
 Best Regards from Paris,
 Eric Chatonet
  




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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Xavier,

They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if  
not

narcissist IMOHO ;)


BUT they use i (small caps) and correct english is I (= ich, je,  
io, ik etc...)
in capital letter, so this may relativise the narcissist tendency a  
bit :-D



just for the humor of it!!! ;)


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send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread sims

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all runs fine.

If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not 
collecting that data.


If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop  restart 
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)


If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same as 
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)

I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.

Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than an 
actual mouse click?


Any suggestions?

ciao,
sims

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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi sims,

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all  
runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not  
collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop  restart  
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)
If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same as  
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than  
an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn the one that wants to be touched physically

Maybe that will work...(?)


ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com


Regards

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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread sims

At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all 
runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not 
collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop  restart 
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)
If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same as 
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than 
an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn the one that wants to be touched physically

Maybe that will work...(?)


Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers  chocolates have no effect either  ;-)

ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com
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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread Dave Cragg


On 17 Feb 2006, at 11:36, sims wrote:

I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and all  
runs fine.


If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is not  
collecting that data.


If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop  restart  
that external it works fine (external collects data properly)


If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same as  
when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)

I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no happiness.

Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different than  
an actual mouse click?


It's different in the sense that a click will generate both mouseDown  
and mouseUp events. So if your mouseUp depended on anything that be  
set by mouseDown, Klaus's idea is probably better.


Also, manual clicking will ensure that the stack with the button is  
the defaultstack and possibly the topstack. Depending on what action  
your mouseUp handler takes, could that be a factor?


Cheers
Dave
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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi sims,


At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and  
all runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is  
not collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop   
restart that external it works fine (external collects data  
properly)
If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same  
as when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no  
happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different  
than an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try
click at the loc of btn the one that wants to be touched physically
Maybe that will work...(?)
Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers  chocolates have no effect  
either  ;-)


LOL :-D

Did you try money or the good ol' I will make you a big star approach?


ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com


Best

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de

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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread Dave Cragg


On 17 Feb 2006, at 11:48, sims wrote:


At 12:46 PM +0100 2/17/06, Klaus Major wrote:


I have an OS X app which uses an external, it collects data and  
all runs fine.
If that computer is set to 'sleep', upon wakeup the external is  
not collecting that data.
If I then physically use the mouse to click a btn to stop   
restart that external it works fine (external collects data  
properly)
If I use a  send mouseUp to that btn it does not work the same  
as when I physically click with the mouse

(the external does not collect data)
I have tried all sorts of 'send in X seconds' and still no  
happiness.
Is it possible that sending a 'mouseUp' to a btn is different  
than an actual mouse click?

Any suggestions?


you could try

click at the loc of btn the one that wants to be touched physically

Maybe that will work...(?)


Tried that, doesn't work.  Flowers  chocolates have no effect  
either  ;-)




Sounds like you're clicking the wrong buttons.

Dave
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Re: send mouseUp real click

2006-02-17 Thread sims

At 11:59 AM + 2/17/06, Dave Cragg wrote:
It's different in the sense that a click will generate both 
mouseDown and mouseUp events. So if your mouseUp depended on 
anything that be set by mouseDown, Klaus's idea is probably better.


No go.



Also, manual clicking will ensure that the stack with the button is 
the defaultstack and possibly the topstack. Depending on what action 
your mouseUp handler takes, could that be a factor?


I added a btn to another stack in the app - made that topstack - 
clicked and it would work,

but still cannot get send in time.

Send in time would automate the 'coming out of sleep mode' and set up 
the app to
collect data. I'd rather not need to depend on an Earthling to do 
something   ;-)


ciao,
sims

European Rev Conference  2006
www.techietours.com
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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lynch
The way I am setting it up, the user will always know who has locked out the
task file - it tells you when you open it, in a field in the upper left of
the task viewer card.

I intend to include instant messaging, either as a substack of Task Mage or
as a separate stack in Work Mage. That way, a user who wants access can
instant message the person who has it locked and tell the to get out.

Which is not perfect.

Your idea about stacking data chatroom style is a good one, I will give it
some thought. A given task file, in task mage, is way more complicated than
a simple field, so it might not be practical - but it bears thinking about.

Thanks,

Jonathan


On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WOW Jim,
 These are some really good (extremely creative) ideas! Thank you for
 sharing them.
 Paul Looney

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:59:36 -0800
 Subject: Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

As a design hint from my little corner of the world, you might think
 of this
 massive challenge along the lines of event looping.  Every part of the
 solution actually operates on its own event loop and timing, sorta like
 people attending a cocktail party.

 Everyone has there own agenda for enjoying the evening, their own
 requirements, preferences and behaviors.  There are, however, limits and
 rules.

 Be careful of customer-driven design.  I have been there many times and
 had
 to defend the cogent database structure in spite of pressure to 'just
 make
 it work by Friday'.

 If you would like a few tips or design ideas, contact me off the list.
 I
 did an accounting system that worked on the principle of messaging,
 queues,
 conditions, and error checking.  One of the concepts that helped me was
 'semaphore' that signaled when tasks needed to be done and when and
 where
 they were located.  Kind of like Is everybody here when you don't
 know who
 everybody should be.

 Object-oriented-style seemed to make sense to me, and I did this in
 Hypercard in the late 80's.  Of course, they were all Mac.

 Each day was its own object, worried only about its data and results,
 then
 knew when it was to be archived.  Each day was a stack that had its own
 functions depending on the day of the week (Fri was different from Wed,
 etc)
 and time of the month (the last week was different than the first).

 This scheme allowed me to give each stack all the room it needed to deal
 with its nature, including holidays, snow closures, etc.  Each day-stack
 would report in on a schedule + when queried.  Each card in the
 day-stack
 served a purpose.  Friday had more cards than a Tue (like employee hours
 summary), unless a particular Tue was the end of the month.  You get the
 idea.  The day stack creator would make my day the way it needed to
 be,
 and then the day was self-sufficient, no matter which computer/hard
 drive it
 was on.  If it were on a back up drive, it would know that (Rinaldi
 XCMD) by
 asking the parent stack for the current drive list locations.

 Navigating from stack to stack for the manager and account was a snap,
 since
 that is something that HCard does very well.

 I also did their point of sale software in Hypercard,
 object-oriented-style.
 They sold Macintoshes mail order.  They were the first and very
 successful,
 until purchased, then died.  Had fun on the softball team :-)

 As usual, this may be of no help whatsoever with your circumstance.  In
 that
 event kindly disregard this morning wake-up tome.

 May Task Mage have good Luck Mage.

 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas


 On 2/16/06 6:53 AM, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The company my wife works for is starting to use Task Mage, because
 they got
  fed up with MS Project
 
  This is great, because it gives me a customer driven process for
 further
  development of Task Mage.
 
 
  One of the things they need is to be able to have shared use of
 tasks, which
  are stored at a remote location and accessed via FTP. This is all very
  doable, and I have made good progress in setting this up.
 
  But wow, sharing and locking files gets very complicated. The basic
 model is
  simple, but the details, and cascading changes involved are just a
 huge pain
  in the bahonkus.
 
  That's it, that's all I wanted to say... Just venting as parts of my
 brain
  ooze out of my ears.
 
  Jonathan
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Re: Disabled files in 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol

Mark,
As much as misery loves company, I'm sorry you share this problem.
Did you have it in prior versions as well?
I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying 
to open the Table panel in the Inspector.

Paul Looney

-Original Message-
From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:27:42 -0800
Subject: Re: Disabled files in 2.7

  simplsol-

Thursday, February 16, 2006, 6:32:50 PM, you wrote:


 Stack no longer exists in this location


...I absolutely hate this error message. I have one stack I'm working
on that brings this up every *other* time I launch the stack. I have
to open it from the Open Stack menu instead of Open Recent File.
And I have no idea why.

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Re: How to get print dialogs when printing stacks

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol

Worked perfectly!
Thank you, Sarah!
PL

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From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:39:24 +1000
Subject: Re: How to get print dialogs when printing stacks

  On 2/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This only works if followed by revPrintField or revPrintText:

revShowPrintDialog true,true

Is there a way to get these two dialog boxes when printing a stack?
Paul Looney



Try something like this:

answer printer  -- gives you the first dialog
open printing with dialog  -- gives the second dialog
print cards  -- queues the cards for printing
close printing  -- actually prints

Cheers,
Sarah
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Printing DLOG on Mac OS X

2006-02-17 Thread Yves COPPE

Hi list

is there a way to get the printing DLOG on mac OS X appearing in  
sheet mode ?


Thank you.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
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Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

On 15 Feb 2006, at 22:35, David Vaughan wrote:


On 16/02/2006, at 5:00, David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

Yes, in order to stop other people getting into the same position.
Once the cat was out of the bag there was no need for anyone to go to
the site again. It could be argued that he should be praised for his
selfless actions and RunRev chastised for their unsafe site!


David, I have full regard for the value of your posts on other  
topics but what you have above is about the most specious argument  
for anything that I have ever seen on this site.


It was supposed to be specious - well more tongue in cheek really. It  
was supposed to be on par with the posts condemning Richmond for his  
actions, which I found specious but rather than be rude or make  
personal attacks thought it better form to show the other side of the  
coin in a similar manner.


Your later paragraphs, about the list to which the material might  
have been posted and possible consequences thereof, are pure  
sophistry.


You've lost me there! I was trying to find out what the actual crime  
was! As far as I can see it can only be one of the following:


1.  Posting to the RunRev List.
2.  Posting to *any* list or Newsgroup.

My point was the given that the information was posted in the first  
place, then out of the two options above, option 1 was the safest/ 
best for RunRev and for RunRev developers. I could actually  
understand RunRev's position more if option 2 had been taken.


Runtime owns this particular list and may include or exclude any  
person on their own cognizance and in their own commercial interests.


I fully agree that they have the right to include or exclude anyone.  
It just depends on what is trying to be achieved as to how effective  
an exclusion would be. It is next to impossible to police a mailing.


One reason for excluding someone would be to try to stop the excluded  
person from posting in a manner similar to the post they were  
excluded for in the first place. This is impossible to achieve unless  
EVERY message from EVERY subscriber is moderated - a very time  
consuming and therefore expensive business.


Another reason would be to punish the person and stop them getting  
help from the list. This seems pointless in this case (except that it  
might make the person doing the excluding feel better for a little  
while and cause the person being excluded some slight hassle), since  
stopping someone getting help is likely to hurt the RunRev too. In  
any case, even if every message is moderated it would be ineffective  
as a punishment , since, they can just sign up (or have already  
signed up) under a different name and email address.


Over many years, I have found them to walk a pretty good line, with  
tolerance, humour and only the occasional fit of pique :-).


I agree it's one of the better lists I have participated in. I guess  
I just believe in free speech and fairness and since I was a bit  
peeved at being treated poorly by RunRev, thought that the act of  
putting Richmond in the naughty-corner a bit over the top. On  
reflection, the people at RunRev were probably frazzled by the  
problems they had in getting the site up and running and took it out  
on the first person that seemed to compound their problems.


Should we infer from your last line that you like to have the last  
word? I promise not to write on the topic again, so here you go:

Would have been ended!


I suppose I am like most people. Sometimes I like to have the last  
word and sometimes I don't mind if someone else has it! In this case  
it just depends on what I am doing when the message arrives. At the  
moment I am running a time consuming stack that is (hopefully!)  
creating a 200,000+ record database for me and so have some time to  
spare. Looking at the my record counter, I'm up to 199,000 already,  
(time flies furiously!) and so back to work!


Have a Great Weekend
All the Best
Dave


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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-17 Thread Charles Hartman


On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
the only person around here with Acrobat installed.


Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by now  
(especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.


Charles

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Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Robert Brenstein

J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the 
Enterprise version, your folder would be called My Revolution 
Enterprise. Inside that folder is where all the extras go, in 
these subfolders:


  Plug ins now load from Plugins folder
  Database drivers now load from Database Drivers folder
  Externals now load from Externals folder
  External  database drivers loaded here are picked up by Standalone Builder
  Object Libraries are stored in Resources/Object Libraries
  Image Libraries are stored in Resources/Image Libraries

For your image libraries, make a subfolder inside the My 
Revolution whatever folder called Resources. Inside that, a 
folder called Image Libraries. Inside that, your libraries.


Note that so far these folders aren't created by default, you have 
to make them.


Why is that?  Why not, for example, put plugins in a single folder 
where we expect users to change its contents?


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Media Corporation



And how will things be handled if a different version of the same 
plugin or driver is needed for a different version of Revolution?


Robert
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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.

Cheers
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 04:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9?  
I can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience  
with theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

Paul Looney
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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
My document opened fine in Preview on OSX and did not even try to  
open Acrobat. ???


... Just double checked and it goes right to Preview and not Acrobat  
at all.



Tom


On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


Charles-

Thursday, February 16, 2006, 3:59:50 PM, you wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
the only person around here with Acrobat installed.

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread Scott Rossi
 Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9?

 Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.

Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as well!

Connection?

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III

HHH

This made i really laugh.

Thanks xavier,

Tom


On Feb 17, 2006, at 5:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if  
not

narcissist IMOHO ;)

just for the humor of it!!! ;)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:


Apple does not use and never used such a suffix.
Fortunately :-)

Le 17 févr. 06 à 10:55, Mark Smith a écrit :


Couldn't agree more. I don't know where this awful 'my' suffix came
from (MSoft? Apple?), but it makes everything sound like My Little
Pony

Mark

On 17 Feb 2006, at 09:11, Martin Baxter wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:

If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder
beginning with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought.
I already have a serious problem with My Computer, My
Documents etc. To me this is like My first coloring book :-),
eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names
do not begin with the word my in some way not really mine. Or is
this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in Perl?

Martin Baxter


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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas McGrath III
8 is empty in the index and so should not be there, but 9 is in the  
index and is missing completely.


Verified here OSX 10.4.5   REV 2.7

Tom

On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9?



Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.


Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as  
well!


Connection?

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun
I guess you mean the Table of Contents? I can't find an Index.  
Chapter 11 is missing also!


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 15:03, Thomas McGrath III wrote:

8 is empty in the index and so should not be there, but 9 is in the  
index and is missing completely.


Verified here OSX 10.4.5   REV 2.7

Tom

On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Scott Rossi wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9?



Yes, the chapters are missing in my file too.


Wait a minute.  There's 18 minutes missing from the Nixon tapes as  
well!


Connection?

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Re: Getting Started with a Database

2006-02-17 Thread Kay C Lan
Thanks Trevor for the insight.
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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun
One thing I've done is to create an Index using Acrobat, makes  
finding things in the document a breeze!


Not sure if I am allowed to send this to anyone and if I am if it  
would be of use?


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 13:36, Charles Hartman wrote:



On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:


 hard-coded path to Adobe
Reader



You're kidding!


It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently  
I'm

the only person around here with Acrobat installed.


Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by  
now (especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.


Charles

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Miller
On 17/2/06 04:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9? I
 can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with
 theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

For more information about this, please read the preface to the User's Guide
- on page 1.

Kind regards,

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Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lynch
I think it is a point on Richmond's side that he has not created a new Email
list and attempted to rejoin the list.

I think we would recognized it if he had.

So, clearly, he is respecting RunRev's wish to keep his posts moderated.
This would indicate that it is not his intention to be disruptive. I realize
that intentions are not everything, but they do matter.


Perhaps RunRev will reinstate him after a period. I, for one, appreciate
some of his posts.
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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lynch
I just want to say, Jim, your ideas on this topic are greatly appreciated.

Please share all of the here, as many of us might use them, or adapt them to
our needs.

Take care,

Jonathan


On 2/17/06, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The way I am setting it up, the user will always know who has locked out
 the task file - it tells you when you open it, in a field in the upper left
 of the task viewer card.

 I intend to include instant messaging, either as a substack of Task Mage
 or as a separate stack in Work Mage. That way, a user who wants access can
 instant message the person who has it locked and tell the to get out.

 Which is not perfect.

 Your idea about stacking data chatroom style is a good one, I will give it
 some thought. A given task file, in task mage, is way more complicated than
 a simple field, so it might not be practical - but it bears thinking about.

 Thanks,

 Jonathan


  On 2/16/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  WOW Jim,
  These are some really good (extremely creative) ideas! Thank you for
  sharing them.
  Paul Looney
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com 
  Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 08:59:36 -0800
  Subject: Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...
 
 As a design hint from my little corner of the world, you might think
  of this
  massive challenge along the lines of event looping.  Every part of the
 
  solution actually operates on its own event loop and timing, sorta like
  people attending a cocktail party.
 
  Everyone has there own agenda for enjoying the evening, their own
  requirements, preferences and behaviors.  There are, however, limits and
 
  rules.
 
  Be careful of customer-driven design.  I have been there many times and
  had
  to defend the cogent database structure in spite of pressure to 'just
  make
  it work by Friday'.
 
  If you would like a few tips or design ideas, contact me off the list.
  I
  did an accounting system that worked on the principle of messaging,
  queues,
  conditions, and error checking.  One of the concepts that helped me was
  'semaphore' that signaled when tasks needed to be done and when and
  where
  they were located.  Kind of like Is everybody here when you don't
  know who
  everybody should be.
 
  Object-oriented-style seemed to make sense to me, and I did this in
  Hypercard in the late 80's.  Of course, they were all Mac.
 
  Each day was its own object, worried only about its data and results,
  then
  knew when it was to be archived.  Each day was a stack that had its own
  functions depending on the day of the week (Fri was different from Wed,
  etc)
  and time of the month (the last week was different than the first).
 
  This scheme allowed me to give each stack all the room it needed to deal
  with its nature, including holidays, snow closures, etc.  Each day-stack
 
  would report in on a schedule + when queried.  Each card in the
  day-stack
  served a purpose.  Friday had more cards than a Tue (like employee hours
  summary), unless a particular Tue was the end of the month.  You get the
 
  idea.  The day stack creator would make my day the way it needed to
  be,
  and then the day was self-sufficient, no matter which computer/hard
  drive it
  was on.  If it were on a back up drive, it would know that (Rinaldi
  XCMD) by
  asking the parent stack for the current drive list locations.
 
  Navigating from stack to stack for the manager and account was a snap,
  since
  that is something that HCard does very well.
 
  I also did their point of sale software in Hypercard,
  object-oriented-style.
  They sold Macintoshes mail order.  They were the first and very
  successful,
  until purchased, then died.  Had fun on the softball team :-)
 
  As usual, this may be of no help whatsoever with your circumstance.  In
  that
  event kindly disregard this morning wake-up tome.
 
  May Task Mage have good Luck Mage.
 
  Jim Ault
  Las Vegas
 
 
  On 2/16/06 6:53 AM, Jonathan Lynch  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   The company my wife works for is starting to use Task Mage, because
  they got
   fed up with MS Project
  
   This is great, because it gives me a customer driven process for
  further
   development of Task Mage.
  
  
   One of the things they need is to be able to have shared use of
  tasks, which
   are stored at a remote location and accessed via FTP. This is all very
 
   doable, and I have made good progress in setting this up.
  
   But wow, sharing and locking files gets very complicated. The basic
  model is
   simple, but the details, and cascading changes involved are just a
  huge pain
   in the bahonkus.
  
   That's it, that's all I wanted to say... Just venting as parts of my
  brain
   ooze out of my ears.
  
   Jonathan
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Re: Pointlessness [was Revolution RUMORS!]

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Miller
On 17/2/06 15:27, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps RunRev will reinstate him after a period. I, for one, appreciate
 some of his posts.

While I appreciate the debate on this subject, its not like we are looking
at a first time here.  We would not have moderated him if we had not
previously agreed with him he would be extra careful after last time.  That
said, of course we will look at restating him (again).  However another
issue relating to our software licensing has arisen, we must resolve it
first.

If you wish to continue to comment on this matter, please take it up with
Heather or myself directly, off-list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Ault
Don't you mean iMOHO?


On 2/17/06 2:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if not
 
 narcissist IMOHO ;)
 
 
 
 just for the humor of it!!! ;)
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:
 


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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread Kay C Lan
And I imagine Bugzilla is not the 'current' answer for Doc problems. Please
note on the first page of the docs:

Please send all comments and feedback to:
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread xavier . bury
actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 16:42:13:

 Don't you mean iMOHO?
 
 
 On 2/17/06 2:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  They dont use my - they use 'i'... Which is a bit egocentrical if 
not
  
  narcissist IMOHO ;)
  
  
  
  just for the humor of it!!! ;)
  
  
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2005 10:59:55:
  
 
 
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Sqlite on Linux

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Honken

I've compiled my application on Windows and I've moved it to Linux.  I
get the following error when I try to access the Sqlite database with my
application on Linux:

Failed to load dbsqlite.so error dbsqlite.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directoryfound
/root/Linux/externals/database_drivers/dbsqlite.so
symbols 7134656,7134544,7134624
called idcounterptrx12.db
#65533;#65533;#65533;ph'l#65533;F#549;#65533;*

I've tried it on Fedora Core 4, RedHat 7.3 and 8.0.  All with the same
error.  I've set the permissions to 777 for the file and I've tripple
checked that the file is there and in that directory.  It's creating a
file called c:/test.db on my hard drive which I'm sure the .so is
creating.  I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.
Is anyone else using the Altuit .so on Linux that has seen this problem
before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Jeff




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Re: Printing DLOG on Mac OS X

2006-02-17 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Yves,


Hi list

is there a way to get the printing DLOG on mac OS X appearing in  
sheet mode ?


I'm not sure, but iI think this is not possible since the dialogs do  
not belong to Rev.



Thank you.

Greetings.

Yves COPPE
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Regards

Klaus Major
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http://www.major-k.de

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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Ault
Thanks for the note.  Very glad that my ramblings might have triggered
something valuable for you.

Something more.  Those not interested.. . stop reading now.  You won't miss
a thing  :-)

As you may have realized by now, I tried to use some of the HCard ways of
handling stacks to think about work flow organization where each part of the
process becomes an object that only deals with its children and next level
parent(s).

Children know how to locate their parent(s) at any moment, therefore when
the parent changes, the child can reference that change and respond
accordingly.

In the work flow sense, a child is actually the individual worker executing
a step in the work flow, so there can be two workers each using their own
child to update to the same parent or group of parents.  These parents can
be at the same level, each having a different function.

An example would be a staff meeting event.  Work flow would include
scheduling, updating, building the agenda, sending notices to attendees and
other parties, inviting comments, publishing the list of attendees,
post-meeting minutes, notification of interested parties, archiving for
future reference, scheduling follow-up.

All of these parts could be a parent and the child would be the particular
staff meeting on Thur at 9 am [metaphor would be a card in a 'scheduled
event stack].  It would know that it needed to report to the parent that
handled any scheduling, the one that handled invitations, the one that
handled archiving of company information, etc.

In this scheme, 
...the child would ask each parent Are there any updates to me (running on
Rebecca's computer [metaphor would be a card on her computer that would show
the data from the card in the 'scheduled event stack')?

 ...the child would say Here is the revised list of attendees for your
consideration, from me (running on Mark's computer), which submits the new
data to the parent for updating and availability to any object that
requests/requires it.  Basically , you have a lot of 'landing zones' for
data that is handled by one-or-more parents.

Here the child does not know or care what the parent does with the new data.
Time and date stamping is essential.
I would encourage designing, building, and embedding an audit trail now to
help with the debugging and design.  It is an invaluable tool.

Hypercard of course.

Hope you head stops swimming over the weekend.

Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 2/17/06 7:37 AM, Jonathan Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just want to say, Jim, your ideas on this topic are greatly appreciated.
 
 Please share all of the here, as many of us might use them, or adapt them to
 our needs.
 
 Take care,
 
 Jonathan
 


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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Jim Ault
and I am on Mac, Virtual PC, and Windows.


On 2/17/06 7:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)
 
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 17/02/2006 16:42:13:
 
 Don't you mean iMOHO?
 
 
 On 2/17/06 2:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol

Kevin,
Thanks for the guidance.
PL

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:27:31 +
Subject: Re: Missing Chapter 8  9

  On 17/2/06 04:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9? I
can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with
theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.


For more information about this, please read the preface to the User's 
Guide

- on page 1.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol
Seems Kevin  Company are already aware of this, so I will not add it 
to Bugzilla.

PL

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Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:44:18 +0800
Subject: Re: Missing Chapter 8  9

   And I imagine Bugzilla is not the 'current' answer for Doc problems. 
Please

note on the first page of the docs:

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Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  
have created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to  
distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that  
wants it!


It makes searching a real breeze!

All the Best
Dave

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Re: File sharing, locking, etc... between multiple users...

2006-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lynch
Hello again,

That is useful stuff to consider. At some point, I am going to create an app
called Manager Mage, or some such thing, - that will be used for
coordinating the efforts of each individual.

Task Mage approaches this from a very different perspective.

It is from the point of view of the stream of consciousness of the person
sitting at his desk, working on multiple projects.

Date oriented to-do list programs just suck, because not all tasks can be
assigned to a date or time. Most tasks, in my experience, are on-going.

So, task mage uses task files that do not have a particular date or time
attached to them. Each task file has its own sub-to-do list, and any item in
a sub-to-do list can be assigned to the calendar as needed, but it doesn't
have to be.

So, from the users perspective, when he is on the front page of task mage,
he has a to do list on the right side of the screen that automatically
organizes his tasks into whatever categories and sub-categories he sets up
for himself.

The left side of the screen contains a table that is used as a schedule for
the current day, that he can use his today schedule or not as he wishes. All
he has to do is drag items from his to-do list to his schedule.

Each item in his to-do list contains a link to that task file.

So, when he is working on a task, he can just click the link for that task,
go to the task, make whatever changes to his notes, status, sub-to-do list,
etc... that he needs to make, then go back to the front page to see what he
needs to work on next.

He can also add new tasks very quickly.

The idea is to be able to switch between tasks, make changes, and go back to
what you were doing so quickly that the yours short-term memory has not
dropped the details of what your were working on at that moment.

This allows for efficient multi-tasking.

In general, multitasking is very ineffecient, as has been shown by multiple
studies, because it takes considerable mental effort and time to orient on a
task, then re-orient on what you working on before you switched.

Task Mage eliminates that problem.

And I know it works, because I use it all day long at work, and it makes me
way more efficient, and with using it I almost never forget about tasks.


Manager coordination is a whole other perspective - one that will require a
different app that integrates with Task Mage.

Gonna take me forever to finish this project.

Cheers,

Jonathan


On 2/17/06, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks for the note.  Very glad that my ramblings might have triggered
 something valuable for you.

 Something more.  Those not interested.. . stop reading now.  You won't
 miss
 a thing  :-)

 As you may have realized by now, I tried to use some of the HCard ways of
 handling stacks to think about work flow organization where each part of
 the
 process becomes an object that only deals with its children and next level
 parent(s).

 Children know how to locate their parent(s) at any moment, therefore when
 the parent changes, the child can reference that change and respond
 accordingly.

 In the work flow sense, a child is actually the individual worker
 executing
 a step in the work flow, so there can be two workers each using their own
 child to update to the same parent or group of parents.  These parents can
 be at the same level, each having a different function.

 An example would be a staff meeting event.  Work flow would include
 scheduling, updating, building the agenda, sending notices to attendees
 and
 other parties, inviting comments, publishing the list of attendees,
 post-meeting minutes, notification of interested parties, archiving for
 future reference, scheduling follow-up.

 All of these parts could be a parent and the child would be the particular
 staff meeting on Thur at 9 am [metaphor would be a card in a 'scheduled
 event stack].  It would know that it needed to report to the parent that
 handled any scheduling, the one that handled invitations, the one that
 handled archiving of company information, etc.

 In this scheme,
 ...the child would ask each parent Are there any updates to me (running
 on
 Rebecca's computer [metaphor would be a card on her computer that would
 show
 the data from the card in the 'scheduled event stack')?

 ...the child would say Here is the revised list of attendees for your
 consideration, from me (running on Mark's computer), which submits the new
 data to the parent for updating and availability to any object that
 requests/requires it.  Basically , you have a lot of 'landing zones' for
 data that is handled by one-or-more parents.

 Here the child does not know or care what the parent does with the new
 data.
 Time and date stamping is essential.
 I would encourage designing, building, and embedding an audit trail now to
 help with the debugging and design.  It is an invaluable tool.

 Hypercard of course.

 Hope you head stops swimming over the weekend.

 Jim Ault
 Las Vegas

 On 2/17/06 7:37 AM, Jonathan 

Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread Mikey
Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.




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Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to  
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or  
not?


Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.




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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread Peter T. Evensen
If you read the preface, the user's guide is a work in progress.  I believe 
chapters 8  9 are coming and they are soliciting feedback on what is 
currently there.


At 10:12 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote:
Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9? I 
can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with 
theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it.

Paul Looney
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PDF Document Title Incorrect???

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is  
Microsoft Word - User Guide 2  ?!?!?!?


Guess this is wrong???

All the Best
Dave

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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread Peter T. Evensen
The latest version is available at 
http://downloads.runrev.com/userguide/userguide.pdf


This one doesn't have an index.

I'm guessing RunRev would probably prefer that people download and comment 
on the latest version from the official source.


At 11:05 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or
not?

Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.


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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Hi,

It's the same PDF file, I have just created a separate index file  
that can be used in conjunction with the PDF you download yourself.  
You double-click on a file called RRIndex.pdx and it allows you to  
enter words or phrases and when you hit search it gives a list of the  
lines where this appears in the PDF file. Double-clicking on one of  
these lines will open the PDF document at the line where it appear. I  
have only tried this on Mac OS X, not sure if it will work on other  
platforms.


All the Best
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 17:14, Peter T. Evensen wrote:

The latest version is available at http://downloads.runrev.com/ 
userguide/userguide.pdf


This one doesn't have an index.

I'm guessing RunRev would probably prefer that people download and  
comment on the latest version from the official source.


At 11:05 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

Hi,

I am not sure if I am allowed to send it out, I don't want to
infringe any copyright issues. Does anyone know if this is allowed or
not?

Thanks
Dave

On 17 Feb 2006, at 16:59, Mikey wrote:


Dave,
Please send me a copy of the document with the index...

Mike.


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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Wieder
xavier-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:46:18 AM, you wrote:

 actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)

...or maybe hOHO...

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Re: video screen-capture on Windows

2006-02-17 Thread Josh Mellicker

We use Camtasia and are very happy with it.

On Feb 16, 2006, at 2:46 PM, SB wrote:


Hi folks,

We are playing videos of screen captures in our Rev product.

On the Mac, the software we use to capture the videos is Snapzpro.

What are some good Windows softwares that will do audio-video  
screen captures?


Thanks,
Sandy

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Re: PDF Document Title Incorrect???

2006-02-17 Thread Kevin Miller
On 17/2/06 17:11, David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is
 Microsoft Word - User Guide 2  ?!?!?!?

We've provided new material and set up an email address specifically for
feedback so we can build on it.  We've published this address together with
our intentions for the material in the Preface, which is on Page 1 of the
new User's Guide.  Please read this preface, then use the email address
listed there for any and all feedback, so we can properly address it.
Unfortunately, we cannot properly address this kind of feedback on the
mailing list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

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Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools

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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Charles-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 5:36:36 AM, you wrote:


 On Feb 17, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

  hard-coded path to Adobe
 Reader

 You're kidding!

 It'll be fixed in some point-release down the line. But apparently I'm
 the only person around here with Acrobat installed.

 Maybe. But I try never to use Adobe Acrobat Reader on the Mac.  
 Preview is noticeably faster, and I usually have it running in the  
 dock, so the delay would be much less than if the other app has to  
 open. I don't see why this would be hard-wired at all, since  
 resolving filetypes is what an OS is for. . . . But this is OT by now
 (especially since I'm not on 2.7 at this point!). Sorry.

I should have mentioned the hard-coded path is on Windows. OSX does
indeed open Preview and all is well there.

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Re: Disabled files in 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Paul-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 4:42:02 AM, you wrote:

 As much as misery loves company, I'm sorry you share this problem.
 Did you have it in prior versions as well?
 I my case it started when the stack was open as Rev hung (while trying
 to open the Table panel in the Inspector.

Yes, for me at least it's not a 2.7 thing. And my stack does open
properly, just not reliably in the Recent Files menuItem. I went
through and cleaned out the history preference and it still comes back
to haunt me.

-- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: PDF Document Title Incorrect???

2006-02-17 Thread David Burgun

Done!

On 17 Feb 2006, at 17:39, Kevin Miller wrote:


On 17/2/06 17:11, David Burgun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone noticed that the title property of the PDF document is
Microsoft Word - User Guide 2  ?!?!?!?


We've provided new material and set up an email address  
specifically for
feedback so we can build on it.  We've published this address  
together with
our intentions for the material in the Preface, which is on Page 1  
of the
new User's Guide.  Please read this preface, then use the email  
address

listed there for any and all feedback, so we can properly address it.
Unfortunately, we cannot properly address this kind of feedback on the
mailing list.

Kind regards,

Kevin

Kevin Miller ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.runrev.com/
Runtime Revolution - User-Centric Development Tools

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Martin-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 1:11:47 AM, you wrote:

 I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
 the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
 serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me this is
 like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
 old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word my in some way
 not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
 Perl?

ROTFL. I'm surprised RR didn't call it My Plugins.

...but as long as there's no talking paper clip I'm still on board.

-- 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Wieder
Martin-

Friday, February 17, 2006, 1:11:47 AM, you wrote:

 I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
 the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
 serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me this is
 like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
 old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word my in some way
 not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
 Perl?

IMO one of the signs of the downfall of western civilization is that
the cartoon interface of XP and OSX is not just accepted but admired.

-- 
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Re: video screen-capture on Windows

2006-02-17 Thread SB

Thanks, Chipp!

Sandy


Check out Camtasia at www.techsmith.com

best,
Chipp

SB wrote:


What are some good Windows softwares that will do audio-video screen
captures?


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RE: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread MisterX

I was thinking about in My MOjO (sounds good don't it?)... but after reading
wikipedia (and learning another thing) I thought it was at my nono to say
such a thing no matter how loosely typed ;).

so in my hOhO... it is...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Mark Wieder
 Sent: Friday, 17 February, 2006 18:36
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7
 
 xavier-
 
 Friday, February 17, 2006, 7:46:18 AM, you wrote:
 
  actually i should have said  In My OHO since iM on windoze... ;)
 
 ...or maybe hOHO...
 
 --
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: Missing Chapter 8 9

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol

Documentation is always a work in process.
But the 2.7 doc has a table of contents that lists chapters which do 
not exist.
Would be nice to have something like known problems. How could anyone 
tell if these chapters were supposed to be in the current edition or 
not. Other than this list, how can anyone tell if problems such as 
these have already been reported - the email address listed in the 
preface doesn't help see other reports.
Chapter 9 would seem to be particularly relevant in that it proposed to 
describe the file paths which have changed in the new version.

PL
PS
Now my ISP is reporting that the link:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
not working.

-Original Message-
From: Peter T. Evensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:11:11 -0600
Subject: Re: Missing Chapter 8  9

   If you read the preface, the user's guide is a work in progress. I 
believe chapters 8  9 are coming and they are soliciting feedback on 
what is currently there. 

 
At 10:12 PM 2/16/2006, you wrote: 
 Is the new pdf for the documentation in 2.7 missing chapters 8  9? I 
can't find them in mine. If someone else has the same experience with 

theirs, let me know and I'll Bugzilla it. 

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MonsieurX's TAOO Tiki is gone!

2006-02-17 Thread MisterX
Sorry if this comes as more bad news... I had to take the TAOO Tiki web site
down on MonsieurX.
 
The volume of traffic was going to exceed - for this month alone and just
for the tiki - by 2X the traffic capacity which i've never exceeded in the
past years including all my mad driving videos, mp3s and hoard of stacks!
This is amazing, and it was just a startup test for tiki without any
referencing from the top site! Did i get hacked ? what happened? I just dont
have the budget, or time to look into it...
 
For the dozen users who registered, and really gave a big hand, i present my
most profound apologies.
 
Not all is lost, dont despair... The TAOO project is still being furiously
developped...
MonsieurX is still there along with all the goodies that make my cyber
garage...
 
As Arnold said: I'll be back...
 
Cheers and hava great weekend!
Xavier
http://monsieurx.com - Not just NitroMethane for your revIDE
 
 
 
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global variables vs. custom properties POLL!

2006-02-17 Thread Josh Mellicker

Just curious what the count will be if I can get a few folks voting:


just two clicks:


one here:

http://revcoders.org/global-variables-vs-custom-properties/


one more to vote (poll to right of page)
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Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

2006-02-17 Thread Judy Perry
Here's the issue:

The semester started a week or so ago.

Unfortunately, this coincides with the new Rev release in which (a) DC is
no more but there is Media (which won't be out for a few more weeks) and
(b) the file format in 2.7 has changed, meaning that even if my students
purchase DC, anything they've worked on using the 30 day trial (while
waiting for purchasing to go through) will be unusable by the time they
get their DC license.

If they purchase Media, I don't really know when they'll get it, but at
least it will be in the 2.7 file format.  OTOH, as I had already quoted
them the DC price, I'll have to eat the $70 difference (between a DC
10-pack and 10 individual Media licences).

Yikes

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Judy


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Re: Database query for pull down option/menu

2006-02-17 Thread Josh Mellicker

Wow! One I might be able to help on.

___

In Revolution, put this script into your option menu:


ON menupick pChoice

put pChoice into queryValue
put  pChoice   chosen into field status

get libUrlFormData(queryvalue, queryValue)
post it to url http://www.yourweburl.com/thepathtoyour/ 
phpscript.php


IF the result is empty THEN -- executed OK
put it into fld listOfFiles
ELSE
put the result into field task_desc -- there was some  
error in executing the PHP script

END IF


END menupick

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Now, make a text file on your server (called phpscript.php or  
whatever.php):



?php
require_once('dbinfo.inc');   //this is the file with your connect info


$sql = 
SELECT
myFileName

FROM
fileNameTable
;

$result = mysql_query($sql) or die(Error # . mysql_errno() . : .  
mysql_error() );



if (mysql_num_rows($result)) {

//found at least one

while ($row=mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
echo $row['myFileName'].\n;
}


} else {

//didn't find any

echo I did not find any records.;


}


?




On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am trying to create two pull down menu's that are based on MySQL  
query's. Then based on what the user choses from the pull down  
menu's they can get a listing of available files based on what is  
already in the database. Can anyone help me on this one. I greatly  
appreciate the help. I am quite fresh with Revolution development  
and I have look in the manual and searched the web/documentation.


Thanks!
Benjamin
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Path problem in RevGOURL + How to find current directory path

2006-02-17 Thread MITTAL Pradeep Kumar
Hello,
 
I want to launch html file which is present in the current directory (
from where the exe runs)
 
But the syntax like this does not work.
revGoURL file:///index.htm
 
Perhaps the RevGOUrl requires complete path of the file.
 
Do you know how can we find out what is the current direcory path in
rev??
So that I can use revGoUrl file:///  curPath  /index.htm
 
Please let me know if you have any ideas.
 
Thanks
Best Regards
Pradeep
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

Martin Baxter wrote:
 J. Landman Gay wrote:

 If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents folder
 called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the Enterprise


 I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning with
 the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already have a
 serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me this is
 like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am not a 5 year
 old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word my in some way
 not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic scoping mechanism like in
 Perl?


Frankly, I have exactly the same reaction. I abhor My anything. I 
think it is a symptom of My Mac background. My my.


However, on an up note, this is scheduled to be changed in a later 
release, so that the name of that folder can be assigned by the user. 
We're still early in the game with 2.7, so for now it is a hard-coded 
path but that will change.


I could not bring myself to make a folder called My Enterprise either, 
so what I did was copy the words from an email and paste it into a new 
folder title. Try that. It eases the pain.


--
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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: [HUMOUR?] Re: Custom image library 2.6 - 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Stephen Barncard
yeah, Had the same feelings. I really despise that My terminology 
myself. Total lemming-words, like Win this and Win that. It's 
Microsoft-Speak and I,  a card-holdling, 
pry-from-my-cold-dead-fingers Mac diehard, have a bit of hesitation 
typing those words. And now, it's etched in stone in the code 
forever. Kinda like the RFC misspellings:


So what if somebody (probably Tim Berners-Lee, who wrote the 
original HTTP spec) was a better engineer than speller? Yes, the 
correct spelling is referrer, but the term referer is embedded into 
the code of millions of browsers and servers and it's too late to 
change now.



J. Landman Gay wrote:
If it does not already exist, create a folder in your Documents 
folder called My Revolution [edition]. That is, if you have the 
Enterprise


I'm not at all sure I could bring myself to name a folder beginning 
with the word my. Every nerve twitches at the thought. I already 
have a serious problem with My Computer, My Documents etc. To me 
this is like My first coloring book :-), eeeuuuw. Surprise! I am 
not a 5 year old. Are folders whose names do not begin with the word 
my in some way not really mine. Or is this actually a dynamic 
scoping mechanism like in Perl?


Martin Baxter


--
stephen barncard
s a n  f r a n c i s c o
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Standalone Application and dB

2006-02-17 Thread Benjamin Bacon

Hey Everyone,

Trying to save a standalone application that uses MySQL. I am quite the 
newbie, start using Revolution yesterday, so this maybe in the manual 
but I couldn't find it. When saving a standalone application, do I need 
to move the MySQL libraries (dll I guess on Windoze)  somewhere to use 
them? I am developing on a Windows machine right now but I am more 
familiar with Linux/OS X.


Thanks!!

Benjamin

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Re: Database query for pull down option/menu

2006-02-17 Thread Benjamin Bacon
Hey thanks! I will give this a try too. Scott pointed me to a great 
example he made and it solved the problem!


/Benjamin

Josh Mellicker wrote:

Wow! One I might be able to help on.

___

In Revolution, put this script into your option menu:


ON menupick pChoice

put pChoice into queryValue
put  pChoice   chosen into field status

get libUrlFormData(queryvalue, queryValue)
post it to url 
http://www.yourweburl.com/thepathtoyour/phpscript.php;


IF the result is empty THEN -- executed OK
put it into fld listOfFiles
ELSE
put the result into field task_desc -- there was some 
error in executing the PHP script

END IF


END menupick

___

Now, make a text file on your server (called phpscript.php or 
whatever.php):



?php
require_once('dbinfo.inc');   //this is the file with your connect info


$sql = 
SELECT
myFileName

FROM
fileNameTable
;

$result = mysql_query($sql) or die(Error # . mysql_errno() . : . 
mysql_error() );



if (mysql_num_rows($result)) {

//found at least one

while ($row=mysql_fetch_array($result)) {
echo $row['myFileName'].\n;
}


} else {

//didn't find any

echo I did not find any records.;


}


?




On Feb 16, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hi everyone,

I am trying to create two pull down menu's that are based on MySQL 
query's. Then based on what the user choses from the pull down menu's 
they can get a listing of available files based on what is already in 
the database. Can anyone help me on this one. I greatly appreciate 
the help. I am quite fresh with Revolution development and I have 
look in the manual and searched the web/documentation.


Thanks!
Benjamin
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Re: Standalone Application and dB

2006-02-17 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:13 AM, Benjamin Bacon wrote:


Hey Everyone,

Trying to save a standalone application that uses MySQL. I am quite  
the newbie, start using Revolution yesterday, so this maybe in the  
manual but I couldn't find it. When saving a standalone  
application, do I need to move the MySQL libraries (dll I guess on  
Windoze)  somewhere to use them? I am developing on a Windows  
machine right now but I am more familiar with Linux/OS X.


For windows you need to put the libmySQL.dll file in the same  
directory as the application.  I think the standalone builder will do  
this for you though.



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Re: Revolution 2.7 documentation panic

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

Thomas McGrath III wrote:
My document opened fine in Preview on OSX and did not even try to  
open Acrobat. ???


... Just double checked and it goes right to Preview and not Acrobat  at 
all.


Same here. I suspect the problem occurs mostly on Windows machines.

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Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

David Burgun wrote:

Hi,

Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  have 
created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to  
distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that  
wants it!


Actually, I think you should send it to RR. :)

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Re: Path problem in RevGOURL + How to find current directory path

2006-02-17 Thread Alex Tweedly

MITTAL Pradeep Kumar wrote:


Hello,

I want to launch html file which is present in the current directory (
from where the exe runs)

But the syntax like this does not work.
revGoURL file:///index.htm

Perhaps the RevGOUrl requires complete path of the file.

Do you know how can we find out what is the current direcory path in
rev??
 


You can use the built in function defaultFolder (or simply folder)
Note that this gives you a full path - so you should not add // to the 
start of it



So that I can use revGoUrl file://  curPath  /index.htm

 


put the defaultFolder into curPath
RevGoURL (file:  curPath  /index.htm)-- Note simply 'file:' 
without any leading /s



It's always a good idea to add the parentheses in a case like this.
For RevGoURL, I think it would be OK without it, but other cases would 
not be, e.g.


   put URL (file:  curPath  /index.htm) into myData
puts the content of the index.html file into the variable

   put URL file:  curPath  /index.htm into myData
puts the URL file: (i.e. empty),  followed by the path, followed by 
the string index.htm into the variable.


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Re: Spam:Re: Index for Revolution PDF Document

2006-02-17 Thread Peter T. Evensen
Since the user's guide isn't final, I don't think the index would be that 
useful.  I would assume they'd generate one when the document is finalized.


At 01:27 PM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

David Burgun wrote:

Hi,
Since I have the full version of Acrobat, I can create indexes and  have 
created one for the RunRev PDF. I am not sure if I am allowed to

distribute this, but if I am, I would be happy to send it anyone that
wants it!


Actually, I think you should send it to RR. :)


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Re: Stack structure, media and memory?

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ken Apthorpe wrote:


However, I can't find info on what exactly happens to loaded media when a
card (or substack) is closed, in terms of memory purging.  I've had other
stand alone media-heavy apps hang because of memory overload so it's an
issue for me.


This is never an issue in Revolution. Memory is handled automatically. 
When a card is closed, the memory its media used is recycled. It also 
makes excellent use of virtual memory as necessary. You don't even have 
to think about it. All you really need to know is that you'll need 
enough RAM initially to load the entire stackfile (about as much as the 
file size of your stack on disk; this includes the substacks in the 
file, of course.)


That is the advantage to using external media files, rather than 
embedding them into the stack. A referenced media file will be unloaded 
when it is no longer needed, and it doesn't count as part of the stack 
size when the stack is opened in RAM. Movie files, audio files, and 
other large media files should, in general, always be referenced from 
disk. You won't have to worry about memory if you do that.


If you want to worry about it anyway, you can always just set the 
filename of the player in question to empty. That removes all the media 
content and clears memory. But you really don't have to do that.


If you are replacing one movie in a player with another (by changing the 
player's filename reference) then memory is swapped as needed. The old 
file is dumped and the new media is loaded.



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Re: Export Snapshot

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

Marty Knapp wrote:

I've located the crash log, but I'm not familiar with bugzilla - where 
do I access it?


http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/

Include a description of the problem, attach your crash log, and if you 
like, a screenshot. Be sure to set the version number of the bug report 
to 2.7.


Or you can use Ken Ray's Revzilla stack to submit reports:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads.htm

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Re: Advice? Purchasing Quandary...

2006-02-17 Thread Chipp Walters

Hi Judy,

I'd contact Kevin about this. I'm sure he can work something out with 
you seeing as how you're promoting his product at the university level. 
It's certainly in his best interests to make it work for you.


-Chipp

Judy Perry wrote:


Any recommendations?


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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

2006-02-17 Thread Pierre Sahores

Dear Trevor,

well, all circumstances with PostGreSQL... True even if there are  
work-arounds to let Rev+PostgreSQL become the best partners on both  
the Linux platform (shell pipes to psql) and Mac OS X (an home-made  
revisited RevDB).


Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i will  
test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably more  
suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your work on  
this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and some  
collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


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Le 16 févr. 06 à 23:18, Trevor DeVore a écrit :

I've uploaded a new version of libDatabase 2.  RevDB has some  
issues when using arrays with binding under certain circumstances  
(well, all circumstances with PostGreSQL).  What this means  to the  
average user is that libdb_updateTable and libdb_addToTable  
wouldn't work.


web: http://mangomultimedia.com/developer/revolution/
zip file: http://mangomultimedia.com/download/revolution/ 
libDatabase/beta/libDatabase_2.zip



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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

2006-02-17 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i will  
test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably more  
suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your work  
on this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and some  
collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


Pierre,

Thanks.  I would be very interested to get your feedback.  Question -  
Do you know what the accepted form of escaping strings for insertion  
into the PostGreSQL database is?


I don't use PostGreSQL myself but I've read information that says  
PostGreSQL supports C-style escaped characters (\f, \r, etc.) but  
that this was going to be deprecated and you only need to escape  
single quotes with '' and that to use escaped characters you should  
prefix the value to insert with an E (or something like that).   
Right now libDatabase uses the escape characters, but I'm thinking it  
should just escape the single quote.



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Re: Is SMIL still alive?

2006-02-17 Thread Pierre Sahores
Because CSS2+AJAX are yet so powerfull and suitables, SMIL don't  
probably make lots sense anymore ...

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Le 17 févr. 06 à 00:44, Thomas McCarthy a écrit :



I've been looking into smil file format recently, but

1. most things on the net look a little dated.
2. QuickTime doesn't seem to like smil files.
3. Firefox dosen't seem to like smil pages

Is this format losing support?
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Re: Sqlite on Linux

2006-02-17 Thread Chipp Walters

Jeff,

Chris Bohnert of Altuit has previously sent 2 support emails to you and 
it appears you aren't getting them (though we have no record of a 
bounce). Perhaps you can check your JUNK folder or give us another email 
address to respond to?


We generally try our best at getting back to our valued customers! :-)

thanks,

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Jeff Honken wrote:

I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.


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Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol
Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it 
impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They 
appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would 
open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a 
standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu.
 Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that 
should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way 
the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - 
seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - 
and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.)
 The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any 
stack previously opened by 2.7

I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following:
The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are
RSTK and Revo
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to
STK and MacO

 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 
- without using the Recent Files menu?
 Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks 
saved in 2.7?

(OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7)
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RE: Sqlite on Linux

2006-02-17 Thread Jeff Honken

Chipp,
I haven't received anything from Chris.  Do you have a direct email that
I can email him.  I'd like him to try

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and
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Jeff
 

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Subject: Re: Sqlite on Linux

Jeff,

Chris Bohnert of Altuit has previously sent 2 support emails to you and 
it appears you aren't getting them (though we have no record of a 
bounce). Perhaps you can check your JUNK folder or give us another email

address to respond to?

We generally try our best at getting back to our valued customers! :-)

thanks,

Chipp

Jeff Honken wrote:
 I emailed Altuit yesterday but I havn't heard back from them.

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Re: Disabled files in 2.7 - Followup

2006-02-17 Thread J. Landman Gay

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are
RSTK and Revo
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to
STK and MacO


This has got to be a bug. The plist for Rev 2.7 still lists RSTK as 
the proper file type, and the creator code is still Revo.


I looked at a newly saved stack and saw that the creator was MacO and 
the file type was STlittleboxK. It is the incorrect file type that 
will prevent stacks from opening, but the creator code needs to be fixed 
as well.


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Standalones, externals, file paths in 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread Jon Seymour

Hi,

I decided to make the leap to 2.7 and have found it a little  
depressing. Thanks to Jacqueline for the answer on the image library  
2.6 -- 2.7, but I'm curious as to how in the world I was going to  
figure that out? Why didn't the installer just move or copy the  
library to its new home? On a similar note:


I'm using OS X to build standalones for Mac and Win32. I use a small  
splash screen stack as the app as recommended by many. I've been  
really careful to handle all the nuances/differences in x-platform  
filepath structure in scripts, and the process has been working for  
months through countless new builds. Now, first, when I save as  
standalone for Win32 under 2.7, out of nowhere comes an Externals  
folder in the same directory as the exe. It's empty, but...I do use  
the altBrowser plugin and have carefully assigned the location of its  
externals in another location.  When I launch the exe, the splash  
screen shows and then fails to go anywhere. Two possible problems, I  
think: first, there is a change in the methodology used to construct  
filepaths for Win in 2.7, or...this Externals folder wants to house  
altBrowser and that is somehow causing a problem. Any thoughts? I do  
not develop on Win so I'm a little stuck.


Can someone point me in the direction of any documentation on changes  
in the standalone settings or file path construction? I'm a little  
frazzled with my app breaking at this point!


Thanks,

Jon

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Followup on disabled files in 2.7

2006-02-17 Thread simplsol
Yesterday I noted that opening some 2.6.1 stacks in 2.7 made it 
impossible for 2.7 to recognize them again after they were closed. They 
appeared grayed out from the Open menu. The only way that 2.7 would 
open them was through the Recent Files menu. This is a problem with a 
standalone - that doesn't have a recent files menu. 
 Richard wisely suggested remaking a new standalone in 2.7 because that 
should correspond with the new file format. I have done so. (By the way 
the standalone builder has improved significantly over the years - 
seems to still have a bug applying the selected icon to the new app - 
and wants to cut off 22 pixels on OS X - but is certainly usable.) 
 The new standalone had the same problem. The new app will not open any 
stack previously opened by 2.7 

I dusted off ResEdit and discovered the following: 
The original 2.6.1 Type and Creator are 
RSTK and Revo 
After opening a stack in 2.7 the Type and Creator are converted to 
STK and MacO 
 
 Is anyone having (or not having) a problem opening stacks saved in 2.7 
- without using the Recent Files menu? 
 Has anyone made a new standalone in 2.7 - and been able to open stacks 
saved in 2.7? 

(OS X 10.4.4, Al PB 1.67, 1 gig., Rev 2.7) 
 Paul Looney 
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Re: [ANN] libDatabase 2.0.1.20

2006-02-17 Thread Pierre Sahores



Le 17 févr. 06 à 21:24, Trevor DeVore a écrit :


On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

Indeed, i'm very interested by your libDatabase solution and i  
will test it extensivelly as soon as possible. She is probably  
more suitable than mine in about pedagogic tasks. Thanks for your  
work on this great lib. I will report you how she works for me and  
some collegues i'm, at this time, working with on a Web GIS system.


Pierre,

Thanks.  I would be very interested to get your feedback.  Question  
- Do you know what the accepted form of escaping strings for  
insertion into the PostGreSQL database is?


value='the value' is the main rule to apply. Special chars alike  
lonly quote or simple quote need to be preceded with \. The best is  
to see the man for more deteailled explainations or, else, to test  
and read the pg error messages whose are always very well wrotten,  
detailled and helpfull in terms of a pedagocial point of view.


I don't use PostGreSQL myself but I've read information that says  
PostGreSQL supports C-style escaped characters (\f, \r, etc.) but  
that this was going to be deprecated and you only need to escape  
single quotes with '' and that to use escaped characters you should  
prefix the value to insert with an E (or something like that).   
Right now libDatabase uses the escape characters, but I'm thinking  
it should just escape the single quote.


I don't never use E or so as escape char and don't know about this  
escape way.



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Re: Stack structure, media and memory?

2006-02-17 Thread Ken Apthorpe

Klaus and Jacque

Thank you both for your informative replies.  Time to experiment...

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RE: Installer design and backdrops

2006-02-17 Thread Ken Apthorpe

MeshInstall looks nicer, pending a final release. And, if you could have a
MacOSX version available as well anytime real soon now  it would be the
installer of my dreams.

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