of the screen and check it's top,
it will be 44, so the 22 reported in the windowBoundingRect is
insufficient.
D'oh! Of course, to accomodate the window's drag region.
Fortunately on Mac it's a fixed size, and on Win can be obtained from
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...and also available separately in RevNet --
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Eric Chatonet wrote:
Hi Dave,
Unfortunately :-( you can't set directly the borderColor of an image:
'set the borderColor of img 1 to red' don't lead to an error but has no
effect.
Confirmed, and logged as Bug #3158:
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drawn from the topleft of the control:
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=3159
If you have an interest in gaming or simulations, you might want to
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get fld Whatever of cd 200 of stack MyData.rev
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Richard Gaskin wrote:
I used the file name form to illustrate another difference between HC
and Rev: while you would indeed need to open a stack in HC in order
to get stuff out of it, in Rev you can get property values of objects
in unopened stacks. When you do
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Dave Cragg wrote:
On 5 Oct 2005, at 21:04, Richard Gaskin wrote:
J. Landman Gay wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I used the file name form to illustrate another difference between
HC and Rev: while you would indeed need to open a stack in HC in
order to get stuff
for consistency in irrelevant ominousness ;)
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being the more
intuitive purge.
Of course backward compatibility is a whole other issue, so at best we
might hope for some global flag to allow the old behavior to be
sustained for legacy stacks without requiring an explicit load.
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their request to
support a more consistent user experience.
There is a way to use this also through Revolution?
Not that I know of.
What do you need to do?
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delete a stack.
That's a separate issue, addressed here:
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=1081
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the messenger g).
Any of you have an external for that?
Is there a Bugzilla request to provide that?
Can it be done with some combination of AppleScript/plist stuff?
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, I doubt any of this will
have much effect for quite some time anyway if at all, since there are
many, many bigger fish to fry in the meantime. So while it may be
enjoyable conversation, I don't think we need to get too worried about
any impending change on this anytime soon. :)
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Chipp Walters wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
I feel bad for their ROI: the API is considered for Apple use and
subject to change, which often translates to your stuff will break
with our next release.
Heck, if they were ONLY THAT NICE at Apple! They routinely break stuff
with their next
an incorrect answer doesn't change the answer. :)
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Alex Tweedly wrote:
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Computers are the servants of humans, not the other way around.
You wish !!
I know you well enough to know you're just having fun there, but because
this anomaly has been accepted as normal in microprocessor design I
hope the readers here
Mark Waddingham wrote:
This is just a quick note to let you know that Revolution 2.6.1 is now
available for download from the usual place:
http://downloads.runrev.com
When will the engines at
ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/ be updated?
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it there.
It looks to me at first blush like Microsoft gets this one close to
right. Quite nice.
Excellent link, and excellent commentary. Thanks for posting that.
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for this one, and it's rewarding to see them
moving forward well with their feature completion initiative (not to
mention a really large number of bug fixes folks have been asking for).
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of the value of choosing
Transcript goes away.
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Hi Richard
Good point. The revdocs don’t seem to say much in
regards to hilite... But the hilite menuitems
should clear the confusion shouldn't it?
Maybe I'm just tired, but I can figure out what:
hilite menuitem 9 of menu tools
...is supposed to do.
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be nice if there was a built-in way to do that.
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For some reason it seems some email clients put a space in there --
here's one without the space:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-January/028585.html
Maybe it'll come through unbroken, maybe not.
Inconsequential either way, unfortunately
you can see is a single
window with essentially a bitmap. You can send mouseclicks to a given
location, but can't see any results.
Do you know offhand how this affects screen readers, such as those use
for the blind?
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be replaced. But can our
experience/talents/creativity?
That's only true if all we bring to the table is merely functional code
that does only what was asked for.
Clement Mok doesn't sell pixels, nor Frank Gehry ink. :)
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Wouldn't it be great if Rev Developers had a registry of
talent/capabilities?
Like this?:
http://support.runrev.com/resources/consultants.php
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FTP site:
ftp://ftp.metacard.com/MetaCard/mchttpd.zip
It's a cool thing to play with -- totally customizable, as it's just a
few relatively straightforward scripts.
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Got a 30-word-or-less summary of what it does for developers?
It would be helpful to see it in action -- do you have links to
applications shipping with it, perhaps with descriptions of how it
helped the development process?
TIA -
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-- pretty much as fast as I can hit the return key.
What does each of these scripts do?
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needs to be done, and decide who'll do it.
You can solve little things like moving around files and integrating
them into the master build as you go.
That stuff is easy.
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an ever greater number of high-quality
commercial applications with it, and with less competition as fewer
people use it.
Ship successful software, and users of the library that made that
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that
quotient for TAOO and its adoption rate will change.
If that level of effort doesn't seem worthwhile to you, you may have to
be content shipping commercialy successfuly software at a rate that
leave the rest of us in the dust.
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Todd Geist wrote:
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You can solve little things like moving around files and integrating
them into the master build as you go.
That stuff is easy.
The hard part is retaining and utilizing human energy.
I think this is exactly why
, and you may not need to do as much
evangelizing, as the output of your tools will speak for themselves.
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Better still, Magic Carpet runs on any standard FTP server, with no
specialized software needed on the server at all.
But that's just me. If CVS appeals to others I don't understand what
they're waiting for. They could open a Yahoo (or other) list and get
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overall, esp. if we're talking about just
searching scripts rather than fields, as I believe hint bits only
apply to field objects.
Maybe I can squeeze some time to sit down with those two scripts and
figure out where the time is being spent
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?
This is different from my own, perhaps limited, experience, and any
toolmakers would do well to try to understand as many workflow models as
practical.
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goal, and darnit I never
did come up with one.
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IDE about
their debugging process.
Could there be a relationship between a less-than-robust debugger and a
buggy IDE built with it? ;)
If I had six hours to cut down a tree,
I'd spend the first three sharpening the saw.
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the door in the shops I've worked in.
With a bit of effort it shouldn't be too hard to make a tool that
atomizes stacks into whatever level best suits one's workflow.
Is the desire for such a tool prevalent enough to translate into a
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If there's sufficient interest and joining the group to get one file
seems annoying, I can mirror that file at a simpler location.
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suggestion is that the detailed
screenrect should also calculate its answer on the
fly, rather than relying on the state of the monitor
at startup. I believe this too is now an issue on
Windows, as it certainly is on Mac.
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in the current main display -- just right-click on the desktop
portion of its window, and that and other options are available in a
context menu.
DeskView is part of devolution, freely available at:
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Rishi Viner wrote:
Awww, no linux version... :-(
I live in the hope that one day someone will put this much time and effort
into making things streamlined and logical for the Linux users... dreaming
on...
It's all Transcript -- why wouldn't it work any platform Rev supports?
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Kathy Jaqua wrote:
Does anyone have a simple password script.
Would this do what you need?:
ask password Enter your password:
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opportunities for extensibility are boundless.
Congrats on the Constellation release.
And remember that anytime you want to pump it up in the pages of
revJournal, just send along whatever you like and I'll post it.
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Charles Hartman wrote:
On Oct 18, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In the Files section of the MC IDE working group there's a shell a
couple of us built which suck up the thousands of tiny Transcript
Dictionary files and imports them into a single stack using Rev's
native objects
, at
least when it comes to field text. It gets much, much worse with larger
stacks, containing many fields per card, and many cards. In those
stacks, Rev's simple find command still works great.
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Dan Shafer wrote:
You cannot, in my opinion (backed by way too much research time) do
better than DreamHost (http://www.dreamhost.com).
Do they support Rev CGI?
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On Oct 19, 2005, at 8:57 PM, Andre
and
utilities all completely free and open source.
I can create a section at revJournal for that.
Would you like to be the editor of that section?
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Alex Tweedly wrote:
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Ben Fisher wrote
I propose that a central website be created, full of code from the Rev
universe. More structured than a wiki, files would be uploaded into
categories and directories, but the whole database could be quickly
searched. Most
of the reserved ranges.
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that all of the cursor IDs are within the established reserved
ranges, we can hope that going forward if the Rev IDE needs new cursor
images it'll use new cursor IDs for those, rather than change existing
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the world never delivered video over HTTP before it
came along.
Has RR considered using a codec that's already included with QT, at
least as an option when the specialized one hasn't been installed (or is
installed incorrectly, or has any other such problem)?
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languages, and
plans for OOP extensions to Transcript have been part of the plan for
some time now. So in my shop we're reserving the c prefix for those
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will turn out negative. Not that I have
enough experience with PayPal to vouch for them, but simply that PayPal
phishing their own customers for info just doesn't make sense.
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already been answered:
Why not use the user comment feature built into the Rev docs?
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are we looking for on top of that?
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If Jerry doesn't yet have a property-mapping script to take advantage of
that it wouldn't take but a few minutes to write one for him.
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to fix a small bug than build an entirely
separate system.
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could be next.
Many Windows machines are infected within minutes of turning on their
Internet connection.
Fortunately, Gates recently acquired an anti-virus company, so you can
help close some of the Swiss cheese holes Microsoft put in by paying
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not likely to affect sales of the GUI product.
In the worst-case scenario if that turns out to no longer be the case,
one could use a standalone as a CGI, no?
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Michael,
You can also add zero to it; if it is a number then the result will be
empty.
But is zero counted as zero, or would it add 0.1 in Intel chips?
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I could put it all in one
massive library if needed, but breaking it up along logical lines helps
me get to the part I need quickly.
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J. Landman Gay wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
Last I heard the engine remained free for CGI work to help evangelize
the language in a context not likely to affect sales of the GUI product.
In the worst-case scenario if that turns out to no longer be the case,
one could use a standalone
makes a mistake
that puts money in their pocket,
you can bet they'll make that mistake
again, and again, and again...
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I wonder if the process of working out the details of this project might
be well served on a dedicated list, perhaps the RevDocs list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RevDocs/
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Thomas Fischer wrote:
Hi David,
if you put
answer the last word of the long name of the recent card
in an openStack handler, it should give you the name of the stack.
Brilliantly simple!
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Dennis Brown wrote:
On Oct 28, 2005, at 9:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
There's been a tremendous amount of discussion about wikis here over
the last 48 hours. Clearly a lot of good energy that can be put to
productive use for the benefit of all.
Given the great many details needed
, chances are
the user would never see it.
There isn't a switch for that? How do the folks at RunRev debug their IDE?
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that creates the icns files won't affect problems with
how the Finder fails updating to draw them correctly.
Rather than go to all the effort to recreate an icon building tool in
Rev, a more effective solution takes less of your time:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
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be midly tedious to write such a handler for really complex
layouts, you only write it once and forget about it.
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(the good, the bad, the ugly, the unexpected process glitches, the
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(detailed drives
http://support.runrev.com/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi?id=101), do we have
any quick cross-platform solution for this?
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Just roll your own and move on to more interesting challenges.
OK - thanks Richard. Have reverted to your suggestion for complex
layouts. Pity though Geometry Manager is a real time saver - I often
spend a good
unpredictable results.
There is a similar limitation with the sort command: on blocks of text
in which all lines have 65,535 characters or fewer it works great, but
beyond that it can yield odd results.
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, or even type (it can be binary or text). The 4GB limit
on the size of a single custom property will not likely come into play
in common use.
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I wonder what the determining factor is?
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Is this a foolhardy thing to do?
Could there be a downside to writing prefs or other such app-managed
data to a folder either within or at the same level as our program's
folder if we have permissions to do so?
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. In DB apps it's common to display a useful
subset of fields in a list for the user to pick from, and then edit
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or the UserPath method.
Precisely why the scheme Paul and Bill came up with seems to hold up
thus far:
If an app can't write to its own directory, it must be installed on the
hard drive and not running from a removable device.
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If installed on the hard drive and able to write to the app's folder, we
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by allowing the same app to run well with the smallest footprint
possible on any machine it's run on - it would behave well when run from
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Chipp Walters wrote:
Richard Gaskin wrote:
The only downside to self-contained apps is that there's no file-type
association present in the host system's registry, so documents must
be opened from within the app rather than double-clicked. But this
factor is independent of any method used
Trevor DeVore wrote:
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With Rev's ability to read and write the Windows directory, it would
be simple enough to make the registry entries for the file type
association. But for true portability this should not happen when
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