On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:
--- Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My inclination is to agree with you, Dan,
agree with the agreement, but...
it -felt- good.
Whoa. It drove me crazy! I hate an interface that tries to guess what
I want to do. A click is a
On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:32:25 -0600
From: Devin Asay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: different UI approach
On Jul 11, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Erik Hansen wrote:
--- Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My inclination is to agree
Recently, Mark Wieder wrote:
http://www.dontclick.it/
Another opinion: I enjoy the idea, though I don't see much revolutionary
there. I think the greater issue is effective communication to visitors
regarding where they can go from where they are.
But the clickable UI seems far from passé.
Hi Dan,
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 11:23:49 -0700
From: Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: different UI approach
I don't see any real new thinking here, Mark. Maybe I'm missing
something. And I don't see ANY value in either being able to navigate
(sometimes unintentionally) by mouse moves
Really?
I personally have more problems with the mouse because it moves, even when
I don't want it to (as does the mousepad, as well as whatever it's
sitting on), whereas, hopefully, the trackpad ain't goin' anywhere (and,
if it does, I'm in big trouble 'cuz either my computer is
I enjoyed taking a look at this new [?!?] UI, but the proof of the
pudding, for me, was when I accidentally moved the mouse across the
answer to a question, and it assumed I had answered (with no way to
back up). I'd say I would have to pass on this one.
Jon
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently,
Jon-
Monday, July 11, 2005, 4:37:32 AM, you wrote:
J I enjoyed taking a look at this new [?!?] UI, but the proof of the
J pudding, for me, was when I accidentally moved the mouse across the
J answer to a question, and it assumed I had answered (with no way to
J back up). I'd say I would have
I think a 100% no click interface has no interest,
although there are some actions that don't need a
click...
In the intranet project I mentioned yesterday (in
which I planed to implement such an UI approach),
users could browse (very quickly) through various
topics indexes just by moving the
This works just the same in Rev, doesn't it? At least, it constrains
the line to (I guess) 22.5 degrees
Mark
Makes me long for the old Hypercard (was it HC? Was it something
else?) days of being able to press shift or whatever it was to draw a
straight line.
Judy
--- Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My inclination is to agree with you, Dan,
agree with the agreement, but...
it -felt- good.
Erik Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org
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Hmmm-
I'm not sure yet what I think about this, but it's certainly a
different approach to user interface design. And it gets you
rethinking basic concepts, which is always a good thing.
(Flash 7.0 plugin required)
http://www.dontclick.it/
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-Mark Wieder
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I don't see any real new thinking here, Mark. Maybe I'm missing
something. And I don't see ANY value in either being able to navigate
(sometimes unintentionally) by mouse moves OR in avoiding the simple
action of clicking a mouse.
Maybe for those with specific disabilities?
Dan
On Jul
I don't mean to brag, but a couple of years ago I built
a whole interface for an intranet project around a similar
concept : on the front page users could navigate through
the main sections of the site map without clicking, only
by moving the mouse over some graphics...
The project was for an
I would agree with you, Dan. I want to be able to control with a
definitive action (a click) when I want something done. (Though I
am working on a project where the mousemove is all there is to
control a particular action because I feel that's what fits best and
least obtrusively in the
Mark Swindell wrote:
I would agree with you, Dan. I want to be able to control with a
definitive action (a click) when I want something done.
Yes, there's a lot to be said for explicit gestures.
I suppose if we were to indulge in reductio ad absurdum we could
recommend a UI that doesn't
I loved it --it was fun to explore the concept. I went through every
nook and cranny. It has a certain appeal in being different and
making you look at things differently. Opening up one side of the
box is always good for expanding the thinking. That does not mean
that I would want to
I suppose if we were to indulge in reductio ad absurdum we could
recommend a UI that doesn't even require the effort of moving the
mouse -- the software decides for you what you want, and triggers
actions on its own. Truly effortless! :)
Isn't that the design principle for Microsoft
Hi Mark and all,
Interesting but...
As previous ones who replied, I don't see what valuable performance
was added in this interface.
As said Dan, may be for those with specific disabilities?
You know it (??), ergonomics is my speciality.
I would understand such an approach for fighter pilots
My inclination is to agree with you, Dan, but I do remember the
absurdity of the mouse at it's inception, and how difficult it was to
'get used to' by the mainstream.
Here are a couple observations...
- You don't get 'mouse finger' (I get it all the time).
- You probably get 'mouse wrist' if
Chipp wrote:
[snip]
- Without gestures, you end up removing an existing dimension of
interfaces (the click). Think about how you would select text with
gestures...ouch!
[snip}
Remember the original mouse? To select a word: click at the beginning of it
with the first button; click at the end of
And I'm with both of you (in spirit; haven't checked Mark's link yet).
I really hate those websites that have those nav-menu bars that both
scroll down the page with you (obscuring content sometimes, mind you) as
well as being drop-downs merely by mouse-withins that are accidentally
triggered
Isn't that the Microsoft Paperclip?
Or any Mac version of Word after 5.x?
Judy
On Sun, 10 Jul 2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I suppose if we were to indulge in reductio ad absurdum we could
recommend a UI that doesn't even require the effort of moving the
mouse -- the software decides for you
IIRC, you are not on a Mac, are you Chipp?
I got mouse-finger (have you tried drawing with one?!!) until I first
moved to the Kensington four-button trackball, and, finally, to the
current fingerless (ask my husband, as he really hasn't got any) Mac
mouse. No more mouse-finger!
FOR people who
Exactly!
Okay, so, I am a Mac bigot of sorts, and, so, when I see PC laptop users
with perfectly usable trackpads packing along external mice, I think,
WT*???
I mean, I'm pretty certain that their PC trackpads are equipped with the
requisite left and right mouse buttons, right? And, sometimes,
Judy Perry wrote:
Okay, so, I am a Mac bigot of sorts, and, so, when I see PC laptop users
with perfectly usable trackpads packing along external mice, I think,
WT*???
I mean, I'm pretty certain that their PC trackpads are equipped with the
requisite left and right mouse buttons, right? And,
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