Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-06-02 Thread David E. Jones
I agree that the OFBiz mailing lists and other OFBiz-specific fora are not a good place to discuss or advertise Moqui or any other non-OFBiz project. For this reason after the initial discussions about using Moqui in OFBiz I've tried to limit my comments about Moqui to specific ideas in Moqui

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-06-01 Thread Scott Gray
I have no problem with open and frank discussions about the shortcomings of OFBiz, I'm totally in favor of them. I guess it all depends on context and intent. In my opinion PMC members have an obligation to act in the best interests of the project when interacting with the project and its

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-31 Thread Scott Gray
Al, Privately or not, if this is how you intend to interact with OFBiz users by actively encouraging them to switch to the competing framework that you're currently working with, then I'd strongly encourage you to resign from the OFBiz PMC. It's really not the type of project management we

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-31 Thread Al Byers
Valid point, Scott. I have offered to resign years ago as I am not active, but no one took me up on it. Sounds like you need project management that requires active PMC members. I will send my resignation request to the pmc list where this conversation should probably take place. -Al On Fri,

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-31 Thread Scott Gray
Thanks Al. More than anything we need PMC members who are helping the project rather than hurting it. Regards Scott On 31/05/2013, at 10:13 PM, Al Byers wrote: Valid point, Scott. I have offered to resign years ago as I am not active, but no one took me up on it. Sounds like you need

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-31 Thread David E. Jones
I suppose I'm just as guilty of this as Al. Doing this sort of thing has been common since the beginning of OFBiz and includes users, contributors, committers, and once it existed PMC members too. There have been all sorts of discussions over time about alternative tools and even alternative

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-22 Thread Al Byers
I feel like I owe another apology to the OFBiz developers. Though my initial remarks were accidental (and embarrassing), I was wrong not to acknowledge that OFBiz has a wealth of functionality that Moqui does not approach at this time. And my lack of first hand knowledge of all the work that has

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-22 Thread Paul Piper
Well put, Adrian, well put! -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Looking-for-an-experience-Java-programmer-with-OFBiz-experience-tp4641414p4641454.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Al Byers bye...@automationgroups.com I feel like I owe another apology to the OFBiz developers. Though my initial remarks were accidental (and embarrassing), I was wrong not to acknowledge that OFBiz has a wealth of functionality that Moqui does not approach at this time. And my lack of

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-22 Thread David E. Jones
OFBiz has recently turned 12 years old. At the time it was written many more modern libraries either didn't exist or were not usable, including: - Groovy - ehcache - Quartz Scheduler - Atomikos - JackRabbit (and JCR in general) - Shiro - Camel - JSON-RPC, REST, JSON in general - ElasticSearch

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Al Byers
Hi Carlos, I am just starting to look around for OFBiz work and was intrigued to see your email there this morning. I have been working with OFBiz for over 10 years now and am interested in what you have going. But I must ask if you have considered Moqui (moqui.org) - David Jones's successor to

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Mandeep Sidhu
Hi Carlos, I would like to know more about this opportunity, I am a java developer with 6.9 years or experience and a passionate ofbiz developer as well. I am launching my own ofbiz based ecommerce site www.simbacart.com in coming few days. Let me know if we can share a quick chat over gtalk.

RE: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Carlos Cruz
-5499 From: Al Byers [mailto:bye...@automationgroups.com] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:05 AM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience Hi Carlos, I am just starting to look around for OFBiz work and was intrigued to see your

RE: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Carlos Cruz
] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 12:45 PM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: RE: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience Hi Al; Interesting info, I'm interested in taking advantage of OFBiz's backend logic. I currently have a proprietary call center app done in Flex I

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Adrian Crum
A quick clarification on this. OFBiz was brilliant when David created it over ten years ago, but... implies OFBiz is no longer brilliant. OFBiz continues to be just as brilliant, with a talented team of developers keeping it current with current technology. -Adrian On 5/20/2013 4:04 PM, Al

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Al Byers
Sorry Adrian, Had my mind on too many things and didn't mean to send it to the list. But then, a dose of open mike might be refreshing. I know that there are some great developers on OFBiz, but sometimes things get too large to refactor and a fresh start is better. I don't think American car

Re: Looking for an experience Java programmer with OFBiz experience

2013-05-20 Thread Jacques Le Roux
From: Al Byers bye...@automationgroups.com Sorry Adrian, Had my mind on too many things and didn't mean to send it to the list. But then, a dose of open mike might be refreshing. I know that there are some great developers on OFBiz, but sometimes things get too large to refactor and a fresh