On 1/8/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/7/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > * A self transition for a view state should be possible (its
> > definitely legit in state chart theory, Shale dialogs being state
> > charts for a specific purpose).
>
>
Just a couple of comments intermixed below.
On 1/7/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ok can we all ignore the troll and go back to the original subject...
>
> Like Craig pointed out Rick, I think you should play around with JSF
> first and then Shale.
> The IBM serie "Cleared FU
On 1/7/06, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [snip]
> * A self transition for a view state should be possible (its
> definitely legit in state chart theory, Shale dialogs being state
> charts for a specific purpose).
Self-transitions for a view state are definitely legal, but there's a
Ok can we all ignore the troll and go back to the original subject...
Like Craig pointed out Rick, I think you should play around with JSF
first and then Shale.
The IBM serie "Cleared FUD about JSF" is a good introduction to. I
think one of the previous poster posted the link.
Shale is decomposed
On 1/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/06/2006 05:07:21 PM:
>
> > On 1/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > My "Search" still throws
> > > a nasty error, but I guess I shall struggle with that awhile before
> >
Ahhh yes. Actually, I did check out the DTD a couple of days ago. I
remember it saying how you can only put in one "forward" "include" or
"type". I just didn't connect how I would set a "type" and then
specify a forward as the child node. Now it works just fine.
I knew it was probably something si
On 1/7/06, Eric Rank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My goal is to retrieve data, which a jsp will spill out. I'm trying to
> do it by writing a simple Action subclass to get the data and send it
> along. The way I'm doing it isn't working.
>
> My action mapping looks like this:
>
> path="/r
Greetings!
First, I'm new to Struts, and pretty green in my Java skills, but I'm
excited about learning both!
My goal is to retrieve data, which a jsp will spill out. I'm trying to
do it by writing a simple Action subclass to get the data and send it
along. The way I'm doing it isn't working.
My
LOL I gave him the very same answer that you did, including the same
citations. The difference is that I did not gloss over the confusion you
have systematically engendered by not just owning up to the differences from
day one. You don't have to love something to explain it. Otherwise, who
woul
On 1/7/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a JSF application, there's actually two ways to implement classic Front
> Controller type functionality, such as "send the user to the logon page if
> they are not currently logged on":
>
Concrete examples will help make this clearer, so
On 1/7/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 1/7/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > JSF is page centric rather than Action centric. There is no controller
> as
> > you understand that in Struts with JSF. JSF is for a tool based, dumbed
> > down, approach: JSF is to Struts as
See within:
On 1/7/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Both struts and jsf provide a means of handling form submissons, that
> seems pretty view controller to me.
ANY framework has to provide a "means" of handling form submissions. That
has nothing whatsoever to do with controllers, v
On 1/7/06, Garner, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I want to do something like this in JSF:
>
>
> Which I think translates to
>
>
>
>
Is this correct?
Almost ... first, try it with instead of .
And, if you've loaded message bundles that have keys with periods in them,
here's a tric
Ted Husted wrote:
An expert uses the best tool for the job. A journeyman wants one size
to fit all.
Blessed are those who get to make such decisions. There are
unfortunately many shops that decide what the proper technologies are
*before* any project kicks off, all in the name of "standardiz
Frank,
> Interesting... there is of course no reason you can't use
> ActionForms with AJAX, was it a conscious decision that you
> didn't need them? How
> are you getting around not using them? Your Actions pull parameters
> directly from request I assume?
Right. My struts-config.xml file
On 1/7/06, Alexandre Poitras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you don't believe me, you can look in the famous pattern books out
> there (Fowler, J2EE core patterns).
Some of which used Struts as one of the use cases to prove a pattern exists. :)
But, in the end, it is what it is. What we call a m
By the way the so called application controller (RequestProcessor)
pattern has NOTHING to do with the controller (action, backing bean),
also called input controller, found in the so often misunderstood MVC
pattern. The only similarity is the sharing of the term controller.
If you don't believe me,
Daniel Blumenthal wrote:
I hadn't really thought about it, but looking at the code which has already
been written for "version 2" of my site, I noticed that I haven't used any
ActionForms (yet). Everything is being communicated via AJAX, and I just
haven't needed any. So it's interesting to hea
I just wanted to say, this has been a great thread, and given me a lot of
food for thought. As I mentioned previously, I've spent a lot of time with
my head down developing in Struts 1.1, and now that I'm refactoring my site,
it's good to hear people batting around different ideas about the differ
Both struts and jsf provide a means of handling form submissons, that
seems pretty view controller to me. I dont get how everything's so
black and white and/or chalk and cheese. Sure you define views in jsf,
and you can mess with more than just the forms, but are the
differences really as profound
Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/06/2006 05:07:21 PM:
> On 1/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually I found that dialog-config.xml had an xml error so I guess it
was
> > silently not loaded. So I fixed it and now the Cancel works (yeahh!!)
so I
> > th
I couldn't find one, but this PHP based one will integrate with STRUTS,
http://www.k5n.us/webcalendar.php
You can use this PHP - JAVA bridge
http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/
(of course you have to have PHP installed first)
Jim
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I want to do something like this in JSF:
Which I think translates to
Is this correct?
Shawn
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Currently (i.e. Struts 1.2.x) this is done in the processForwardConfig()
method of the RequestProcessor - if the ActionMapping has "redirect" set to
true it calls the sendRedirect(url) method - which as I understand it is a
convenience method for setting a "302" status and "location" header.
Curre
In my opinion, Eric, this is a bad solution. There are lots of reasons this
is bad. Rather than go through them, I would suggest you just add the logic
in /search.do?query=42 at the point you get the failure form
/retrieve.do?id=42.
On 1/7/06, Eric Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> If a reques
Hi, Eric,
I think you have to go back through the code and find out where the status
codes are handled. I have to admit that I don't know. If someone else
does, this would be great information to have. This is an interesting
problem and one that I always put on the back burner. Maybe now is th
The view "controller" is not a controller in the Web-MVC sense and is
completely misleading, in my opinion, Mark. So part of this just may be
who's dog is in the hunt?
The point of the tool-based and VB analogy is that JSF tries to hide from
you, to do it for you, what other frameworks, like Stru
Mark Lowe wrote:
Not sure if i've understood what you're after, but you can just write
to the reponse (as you would in a normal servlet) and return null for
you action forward. Your webapp configuration will do the rest from
there like with any webapp.
Yes, that's a solution. On the other hand
Not sure if i've understood what you're after, but you can just write
to the reponse (as you would in a normal servlet) and return null for
you action forward. Your webapp configuration will do the rest from
there like with any webapp.
On 1/7/06, Eric Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there any
Is there any way I could get an ActionForward to do permanent (301) rather
than temporary (302) redirects?
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If a request for
/retrieve.do?id=42
fails (e.g. couldn't find item in database), I'd like to say
request.setStatus(HttpServletResponse.SC_NOT_FOUND);
request.setAttribute("warning", "Not your lucky day.");
and forward (not redirect) the request to
/search.do?query=42
Can this behavio
On 1/7/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JSF is page centric rather than Action centric. There is no controller as
> you understand that in Struts with JSF. JSF is for a tool based, dumbed
> down, approach: JSF is to Struts as Visual Basic is to C++.
JSF is more page centric than stru
JSF is page centric rather than Action centric. There is no controller as
you understand that in Struts with JSF. JSF is for a tool based, dumbed
down, approach: JSF is to Struts as Visual Basic is to C++.
On 1/6/06, Rick Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks for the response, Craig. It's n
Again, it was not a challenge. Thanks for explaining.
On 1/6/06, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Its a valid point - I did vote for WebWork without much knowledge and
> anyone
> crticising my decision to do that probably has good grounds to do so. For
> the record the following was
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