subject:"Re\: OM 5"

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-06-07 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Thanks for verification!

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 at 19:22, Rohrbach, Gerald 
wrote:

> Tested latest snapshot some minutes ago.
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>
> Perfect now, this is much better now Maxim.
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>
> Gerald
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> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 2. Juni 2020 04:04
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet
>
>
>
> Hello Gerald,
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 23:20, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Maxim,
>
>
>
> after some training with the windows resizing it works on Android table.
>
> Probably most users would give up. It´s really hard.
>
>
>
> I'll try to make resize handle visible
>
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16061117/jquery-ui-1-10-2-how-to-get-resize-handles-visible-inside-dialog
>
> might help
>
>
>
> could you create JIRA?
>
>
>
> Thinking about the feature to store the video window size and position by
> room maybe
>
> this can be done on the left side, where all users are listed.
>
> So by user, for the video standard position A,B,C,D and SizeA,SizeB, SizeC.
>
> If the window is moved manually, just the relative coordinates.
>
> Maybe like in Android, relative, percentages so if the room is called with
> a different resolution,
>
> It would looks similar.
>
>
>
> Will try to answer in other thread
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> We have also tested with Ipad. With Firefox on the Ipad no success,
>
> but Safari works. Video perfect, but no sound. Also no Screen sharing,
> browser not supported.
>
>
>
> Just to give some feedback. Maybe someone know a solution for the audio
> issue.
>
> Maybe just a security setting
>
>
>
> Can't help right now :(
>
> don't have Mac :(((
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
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> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 30. Mai 2020 05:36
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet
>
>
>
> Hello Gerald,
>
>
>
> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Maxim,
>
>
>
> OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde  it
> works fine.
>
> OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245
>
>
>
>
>
> We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.
>
> To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find the
> right position with the finger to resize.
>
> Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.
>
>
>
> The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
> resize icon more visible ...
>
> Any other ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
> Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.
>
> If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer the
> screen.
>
> Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?
>
> If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.
>
>
>
> Android tablet is sort of single threaded
>
> So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
>
> (it sounds useless)
>
>
>
> I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
>
> I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-06-01 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Hello Gerald,

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 23:20, Rohrbach, Gerald 
wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> after some training with the windows resizing it works on Android table.
>
> Probably most users would give up. It´s really hard.
>

I'll try to make resize handle visible
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16061117/jquery-ui-1-10-2-how-to-get-resize-handles-visible-inside-dialog
might help

could you create JIRA?


> Thinking about the feature to store the video window size and position by
> room maybe
>
> this can be done on the left side, where all users are listed.
>
> So by user, for the video standard position A,B,C,D and SizeA,SizeB, SizeC.
>
> If the window is moved manually, just the relative coordinates.
>
> Maybe like in Android, relative, percentages so if the room is called with
> a different resolution,
>
> It would looks similar.
>

Will try to answer in other thread


>
>
>
>
> We have also tested with Ipad. With Firefox on the Ipad no success,
>
> but Safari works. Video perfect, but no sound. Also no Screen sharing,
> browser not supported.
>
>
>
> Just to give some feedback. Maybe someone know a solution for the audio
> issue.
>
> Maybe just a security setting
>

Can't help right now :(
don't have Mac :(((



>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Maxim Solodovnik [mailto:solomax...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 30. Mai 2020 05:36
> *An:* Openmeetings user-list 
> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet
>
>
>
> Hello Gerald,
>
>
>
> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
> Maxim,
>
>
>
> OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde  it
> works fine.
>
> OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245
>
>
>
>
>
> We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.
>
> To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find the
> right position with the finger to resize.
>
> Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.
>
>
>
> The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
> resize icon more visible ...
>
> Any other ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
> Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.
>
> If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer the
> screen.
>
> Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?
>
> If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.
>
>
>
> Android tablet is sort of single threaded
>
> So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
>
> (it sounds useless)
>
>
>
> I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
>
> I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-06-01 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Hello Sebastian,

On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:34, seba.wag...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Shall we disable sharing screen from Android/Mobile browser for the time
> being?
>

I see no "bulletproof" way to detect mobile :(
`kurentoUtils.WebRtcPeer.browser` have no field/method :(
And I don't want to bring another runtime dependency

Current error is more or less understandable IMO


>
> Sharing your screen does more make sense in a Desktop Environments too. On
> a Mobile/Tablet you are not likely to navigate to other apps. Cause in fact
> if you put the browser with OpenMeetings into the background, the browser
> will disconnect your conference session.
>
> It even currently turns off your screen if you do nothing for a while.
> Which can disconnect your session. Which is a problem on its own to prevent
> the tablet/mobile to go into sleep mode:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2365
>
> But sharing screen on mobile: I just see little use of it.
>
> You essentially can't navigate away from the current Tab/Application.
> Otherwise the browser will stop your audio/video. And if you navigate away
> for 30sec++ it will essentially not be able to recover the session. So you
> will have to completely refresh the browser tab that runs OpenMeetings.
>
> So I just don't think Sharing screen from Android/iOS will make much sense
> in near future.
> And as such, recording neither.
>

+1



>
> Cheers
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 15:51, Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> According to
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevices/getDisplayMedia#Browser_compatibility
>> Screensharing is unavailable on Mobiles 
>>
>> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 10:36, Maxim Solodovnik 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Gerald,
>>>
>>> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald <
>>> g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de> wrote:
>>>
 Maxim,



 OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde
  it works fine.

 OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245





 We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.

 To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find
 the right position with the finger to resize.

 Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.

>>>
>>> The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
>>> resize icon more visible ...
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>>


 Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.

 If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer
 the screen.

 Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?

 If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.

>>>
>>> Android tablet is sort of single threaded
>>> So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
>>> (it sounds useless)
>>>
>>> I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
>>> I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back
>>>
>>>


 Regards



 Gerald

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Maxim
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>

-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-05-30 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com

Shall we disable sharing screen from Android/Mobile browser for the time
being?

Sharing your screen does more make sense in a Desktop Environments too. On
a Mobile/Tablet you are not likely to navigate to other apps. Cause in fact
if you put the browser with OpenMeetings into the background, the browser
will disconnect your conference session.

It even currently turns off your screen if you do nothing for a while.
Which can disconnect your session. Which is a problem on its own to prevent
the tablet/mobile to go into sleep mode:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2365

But sharing screen on mobile: I just see little use of it.

You essentially can't navigate away from the current Tab/Application.
Otherwise the browser will stop your audio/video. And if you navigate away
for 30sec++ it will essentially not be able to recover the session. So you
will have to completely refresh the browser tab that runs OpenMeetings.

So I just don't think Sharing screen from Android/iOS will make much sense
in near future.
And as such, recording neither.

Cheers
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/

On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 15:51, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> According to
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevices/getDisplayMedia#Browser_compatibility
> Screensharing is unavailable on Mobiles 
>
> On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 10:36, Maxim Solodovnik 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Gerald,
>>
>> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Maxim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde
>>>  it works fine.
>>>
>>> OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.
>>>
>>> To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find the
>>> right position with the finger to resize.
>>>
>>> Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.
>>>
>>
>> The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
>> resize icon more visible ...
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.
>>>
>>> If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer
>>> the screen.
>>>
>>> Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?
>>>
>>> If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.
>>>
>>
>> Android tablet is sort of single threaded
>> So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
>> (it sounds useless)
>>
>> I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
>> I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-05-29 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

According to
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaDevices/getDisplayMedia#Browser_compatibility
Screensharing is unavailable on Mobiles 

On Sat, 30 May 2020 at 10:36, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:

> Hello Gerald,
>
> On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald 
> wrote:
>
>> Maxim,
>>
>>
>>
>> OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde  it
>> works fine.
>>
>> OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.
>>
>> To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find the
>> right position with the finger to resize.
>>
>> Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.
>>
>
> The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
> resize icon more visible ...
> Any other ideas?
>
>
>>
>>
>> Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.
>>
>> If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer
>> the screen.
>>
>> Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?
>>
>> If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.
>>
>
> Android tablet is sort of single threaded
> So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
> (it sounds useless)
>
> I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
> I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back
>
>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OM 5 - Android Tablet

2020-05-29 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Hello Gerald,

On Fri, 29 May 2020 at 21:00, Rohrbach, Gerald 
wrote:

> Maxim,
>
>
>
> OM 5 version is working fine. Also with new Chrome based browser Egde  it
> works fine.
>
> OM 5 Snapshot 5 OBE4245
>
>
>
>
>
> We have tested with Android tablets, also works fine in general.
>
> To resize the video windows is a little bit tricky, you need to find the
> right position with the finger to resize.
>
> Maybe you have an idea how to improve this.
>

The only way I see: increase video pod and make bottom-right angle with
resize icon more visible ...
Any other ideas?


>
>
> Screen sharing is not working, NotAllowed: Invaild status.
>
> If I remember right there is a different technology in use to transfer the
> screen.
>
> Do you think there is an easy way to fix it?
>
> If you do not have an tablet, what information I should deliver.
>

Android tablet is sort of single threaded
So while you are in OM room you can share browser tab with OM room only
(it sounds useless)

I would expect browser sharing API shouldn't be available
I'll try to reproduce using my Android phone and will report back


>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Gerald
>


-- 
Best regards,
Maxim

Re: OM 5-M3 Cent OS 8 | Multimedia server is inaccessible

2020-03-18 Thread Alvaro

After read your message i've installed OM 5-0-0-M3 on Centos 8following
the tutorial, and two users can hear and see betweenthem with mic and
cam.
So, please run docker as root, if is not:
#  systemctl start docker.service
...stop kms if is running:
# docker stop kms
...this next step is if your docker have only kms container, noany
other container (we'll clear containers, no uninstall kms):
# docker rm -f $(docker ps -a -q)
...now we'll put kms container in docker (OM 5.0.0-M3:

(Only one line, with space between 1 and 2, and without space between 2
and 3)
# sudo docker run -d --name kms -p : --
mounttype=bind,source=/opt/open503/webapps/openmeetings/data,target=/op
t/open503/webapps/openmeetings/data kurento/kurento-media-server
...now stop docker-service and any server as tomcat and MariaDB:
# systemctl stop docker.service
# /etc/init.d/tomcat3 stop
# systemctl stop mariadb.service
...and reboot the machine:
# reboot
After reboot run the severs in this order:
# systemctl start mariadb.service
# systemctl start docker.service
# docker start kms
# /etc/init.d/tomcat3 start





El mar, 17-03-2020 a las 19:56 +0100, Ludovic MESSINGER escribió:
> Hello,
> I have installed OM 5.0.0-M3 on Cent OS 8 with the tutorial.
> I haves some problems :
> 
>   I can't here and can't see other users. Poll and whiteboard is
> Ok.
> 
>   
>   After a moment I had this message : "Multimedia server is
> inaccessible"
> 
> Do you know what the problem could be?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> PS : since I have GCC 8, I have updated the ffmpeg_centos8.sh
>   script by replacing :
> wget
>   http://www.nasm.us/pub/nasm/releasebuilds/2.13.02/nasm-2.13.02.
> tar.bz2
> 
>   by wget
>   https://www.nasm.us/pub/nasm/releasebuilds/2.14.02/nasm-2.14.02
> .tar.bz2
> Regards,
> 
>   Ludovic
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
>

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-02 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

the fix for 5.0.x should be in build #2798+
Fix for 4.0.9 will be postponed for a while ...

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:26, René Scholz
 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I try (and I hope its successful) to write this in JIRA.
> (After a hint from Maxim I know what JIRA is. Thanks.)
>
> What do you think about the period? Not exactly, days, weeks, month, years...
> When this feature is implemented I want to make a try with a "higher" 
> quantity of persons.
> (higher =~ 50).
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 02.04.2019 um 07:37 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say 5 
> video pods :)))
> But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)
>
> Could you please file JIRA?
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:
>>
>> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
>> best regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Gesendet: Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
>> Von: "R. Scholz" 
>> An: user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> Betreff: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
>> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can see 
>> how many and who is viewing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
>> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>>
>> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the 
>>> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello René,
>>>
>>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently 
>>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are 
>>> located on sidebar
>>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be 
>>> removed
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>>
>>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.
>>>>
>>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>>
>>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>>
>>>> With best rergards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-02 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Will try to do it right after M1 release
seems to be simple enough :)

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 13:26, René Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I try (and I hope its successful) to write this in JIRA.
> (After a hint from Maxim I know what JIRA is. Thanks.)
>
> What do you think about the period? Not exactly, days, weeks, month,
> years...
> When this feature is implemented I want to make a try with a "higher"
> quantity of persons.
> (higher =~ 50).
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
>
> Am 02.04.2019 um 07:37 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say
> 5 video pods :)))
> But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)
>
> Could you please file JIRA?
>
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:
>
>> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
>> best regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
>> *Von:* "R. Scholz" 
>> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
>> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
>> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can
>> see how many and who is viewing.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
>> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>>
>> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <
>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Maxim,
>>>
>>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And
>>> the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>>
>>> Hello René,
>>>
>>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
>>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
>>> located on sidebar
>>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to
>>> be removed
>>>
>>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz <
>>> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>>
>>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>>
>>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>>>> online.
>>>>
>>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>>
>>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>>
>>>> With best rergards,
>>>>
>>>> René
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> WBR
>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

I guess it might be misleading to get list of 1 participant and let's say 5
video pods :)))
But if this feature request is supported by community I can add it :)

Could you please file JIRA?

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 04:55, BBS Technik  wrote:

> this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
> best regards
>
> Ed
>
>
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
> *Von:* "R. Scholz" 
> *An:* user@openmeetings.apache.org
> *Betreff:* Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin
> Hello Maxim,
>
> in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
> When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can
> see how many and who is viewing.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
> not sure it is good idea to display false information
>
> Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <
> rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello Maxim,
>>
>> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
>> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the
>> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>
>> Hello René,
>>
>> It is currently impossible to hide user list
>> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
>> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
>> located on sidebar
>> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
>> removed
>>
>> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>>
>>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>>
>>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>>> online.
>>>
>>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>>
>>> Have anyone an idea?
>>>
>>> With best rergards,
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Aw: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread BBS Technik

this functionality is also available in commercial products such as webex.
best regards

Gesendet: Montag, 01. April 2019 um 20:48 Uhr
Von: "R. Scholz"
An: user@openmeetings.apache.org
Betreff: Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

Hello Maxim,

in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can see how many and who is viewing.

Best regards,

René

Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list"
not sure it is good idea to display false information

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz <rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:

Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.

Best regards,

René

Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list

And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are located on sidebar

In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be removed

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz <rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de> wrote:

Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René

WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread R. Scholz


Hello Maxim,

in my opinion it is not a "fake" or a "false information".
When I make a "webinar" I think it is not necessary that all viewer can 
see how many and who is viewing.


Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:57 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
not sure it is good idea to display false information

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz 
> wrote:


Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list.
And the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.

Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented:
currently buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request
ant rights are located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also
need to be removed

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could
look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz
mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>> wrote:

Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro.
Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about
"Flash or not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator
can see the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other
persons are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the
room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René





-- 
WBR

Maxim aka solomax




--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

So it will be "fake user list", not "hidden user list" 
not sure it is good idea to display false information

Maybe others have some thoughts on topic?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:54, René Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello Maxim,
>
> it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
> It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And the
> moderator (admin?) see the complete list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> René
>
>
> Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>
> Hello René,
>
> It is currently impossible to hide user list
> And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
> buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
> located on sidebar
> In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
> removed
>
> Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>>
>> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
>> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
>> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
>> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
>> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>>
>> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
>> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are
>> online.
>>
>> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
>> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>>
>> Have anyone an idea?
>>
>> With best rergards,
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread René Scholz


Hello Maxim,

it's not necessary to hide the userlist completely.
It will be enough when the the user only see himself in the list. And 
the moderator (admin?) see the complete list.


Best regards,

René


Am 01.04.2019 um 14:17 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently 
buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are 
located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to 
be removed


Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
> wrote:


Hello,

yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.

Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or
not
to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.

Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see
the
userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons
are online.

I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the
room-configuration.
But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.

Have anyone an idea?

With best rergards,

René





--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: OM 5 - Userlist, only visible for moderator/admin

2019-04-01 Thread Maxim Solodovnik

Hello René,

It is currently impossible to hide user list
And, to be fair, I see no way how this can be implemented: currently
buttons to start/stop audio/video stream and to request ant rights are
located on sidebar
In case user list and files area will be hidden - sidebar also need to be
removed

Maybe you can share some picture demonstration how this could look like?

On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 01:45, R. Scholz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> yesterday I had installed the newest Snapshot  of OM5.
>
> Fantastic the "step-by-step-installation-manual" from Alvaro. Easy to
> understand, without problems. Very very Nice!
> And Maxim: I remembered our discussion in the past about "Flash or not
> to be (Flash)": Very good work from you.
> With the WebRTC OM is prepared for the future.
>
> Today I tried to configure a room where only the moderator can see the
> userlist. All other members shoulöd not see which other persons are online.
>
> I have a look into the "hidden room elements" in the room-configuration.
> But the userlist is not one of the elements I can hide.
>
> Have anyone an idea?
>
> With best rergards,
>
> René
>
>
>
>

-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

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