Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-13 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Leokan, thanks for the info. I must admit that I'm in the same boat as Harbs, so mostly web development and apps running on browsers in mobile and desktop. Another thing is that I was impressed by Royale performance in devices and desktop, so wrapping with Electron or Cordova, seems to me valid

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-13 Thread leokan23
Makes sense. I have been focusing on mobile only since 2012 so this is the reason I never jumped to Royale in the early days. Maybe an option would be (at some point) to follow the Dart path and somehow make Royale compile directly to ARM code. that solves all the performance issues in android and

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-13 Thread Harbs
Cool. This is really useful info. Architecturally, Royale was designed to support the same kind of compile-to-native support that Flutter gives you. A big part of the reason we are keeping SWF support alive in Royale is to ensure components can target other platforms. The most obvious platforms

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-13 Thread leokan23
Sadly, after running a simple example with Cordova (I hadn't tested it for a couple of years), it looks like I get huge FPS drops even on my 12gb 8core phone. It dropped in a simple animation from 60fps to 5, which obviously is a no go. The second benchmark I did was going through a for loop to i

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Harbs
We have SVG implementations of the Graphics package. I plan on adding a Canvas implementation as well. > On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:00 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > > Hi Harbs, > > I was using Canvas API on the first link (HTMLCanvasElement), so what do > you refer to? > thanks > > El dom., 9 ago. 202

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Harbs, I was using Canvas API on the first link (HTMLCanvasElement), so what do you refer to? thanks El dom., 9 ago. 2020 a las 18:33, Harbs () escribió: > I’d love to hear your results as well. > > I’d also love to work on native compiling one day too. > > In the short term, I have other pri

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Harbs
I’d love to hear your results as well. I’d also love to work on native compiling one day too. In the short term, I have other priorities. One of them is filling in Canvas APIs which I should be working on in the next month or two. > On Aug 9, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: > > Hi Leok

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Leokan, thanks, I think if you experiment and share with us we can all learn a lot about performance of web html apps on mobile :) I'll want to read about your findings! :) El dom., 9 ago. 2020 a las 16:38, leokan23 () escribió: > I want to clarify I am talking mobile performance not web. I w

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread leokan23
I want to clarify I am talking mobile performance not web. I will give royale another go, to check how much access I have to native libraries like camera, geolocation etc and what the performance is compared to flex and native. -- Sent from: http://apache-flex-users.246.n4.nabble.com/

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Leokan, The performance in Royale is awesome as Harbs mentioned. Check this: https://twitter.com/ApacheFlex/status/1217022282591342592 (hope Harbs could take the time to write a good article with all the points explained, I think will be a very good for all of us and potential future users of

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread leokan23
Thank you for clearing some things up. 1. So I understand it correctly, that there is a need to wrap the html with cordova, electron and others to make it work which makes it not a real app but a web app wrapped. Unfortunately, that doesn't work very well in most cases due to performance. 2. It

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Scott Matheson
Chaps I am sure royal is a good product It is just 2 year late to market and many of use have to plan a future 1 or 2 years ago I understand the community element, but that is one of the issue, does royal relay have a sufficient community to last out, maybe time will tell I remember before I

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Harbs, royale website is waiting for you! ;), so if you want to write for it, let me know and I can help you on publishing it :) I must say I tweeted various points about the amazing performance and low app weight we get in the Royale Twitter account ;-) El dom., 9 ago. 2020 a las 13:10, Harbs

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Scott, thanks for sharing. I think React is a good solution, as Flutter or others like Vue, Angular... nowadays we have enough options out there, and all of them allow us to reach our goals, so it's just a matter of "what you are more comfortable with". As well not all Flex developers, or Roya

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
Hi Leokan, I'll try to answer your questions :) 1.- Mobile. Far beyond Cordova, other option is Electron ( https://royale.apache.org/how-to-create-a-desktop-application-with-royale-and-electron/), But I think AIR is another option too, since AIR allowed native HTML apps to be wrapped too. I must

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Harbs
> On Aug 9, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Scott Matheson wrote: > > IMHO royal is a side road that may run out if tar some time in the future, > then your back to start The success of Royale depends on all of us. I personally have a lot invested in it and I’m not abandoning it anytime soon. > After loo

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Scott Matheson
Carlos I think the work you have done is outstanding, however as a small developer, is there a real long team future, I know we always say yes, but we where let’s down big time by Adobe with these poor management of the flex issue and the abandonment of flex Flex is a great languag

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread leokan23
Hi Carlos, of course Royale was my first try back in version 0.7.2. The reason I tried it was mostly for web but I had many issues starting with it. Piotr helped me a bit to start but at the time my main issues where: 1. Documentation was scarce (there were mostly examples, not documentation).

Re: From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-09 Thread Carlos Rovira
, I migrated an old app from Flex to > Flutter and wrote some thoughts about how close the two frameworks are. I > would be more than glad if you check it out and of course as always, I am > 100% open for any questions. > > From Flex to Flutter > < > https://medium.com/@kanellopoul

From Flex to Flutter

2020-08-08 Thread leokan23
For anyone who might be interested, I migrated an old app from Flex to Flutter and wrote some thoughts about how close the two frameworks are. I would be more than glad if you check it out and of course as always, I am 100% open for any questions. >From Flex to Flutter <https://medi