Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 08/08/12 00:11, Steve Morris wrote: Just my 2 cents worth. Businesses with a heavy investment in office can't migrate to LO, as LO is not a functional replacement for office 2002, IMHO that's not true let alone 2010. A lot of business functionality that is used from day to day and is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have forwarded this to the marketing team for them to discuss because there are a lot of the BoD on that list.  However i am far more unpopular there than i am on this list so they will probably just ignore it as trolling or some-such.  If, like me, you want to see LO succeed and

Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a paragraph using styles)

2012-08-08 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
Felmon, I find your attitude towards discussion worth a respect. I wish everyone would do as you do. I think we agree in most of points. I would only like to comment this part: On 07/08/2012 at 18:58, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote: I find this an absurd criterion of proof. there are

Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a paragraph using styles)

2012-08-08 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 07/08/2012 at 21:39, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: however the argument falls a bit short when he states using translation software isn't allowed (my interpretation of his comment without using translation software). It's just I wouldn't believe translation provided by software

Re: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with Excel 2002

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
has the file possibly been made read-only or locked? On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Steve Morris samor...@netspace.net.auwrote: Hi, I am trying to reproduce spreadsheets created at work in Excel 2002 in Libreoffice 3.6 under Linux and can't do it because pivottables and charts

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: register true origins

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Brian, the definitions you've pulled are from the legal industry ;-) On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.comwrote: At 12:39 07/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: Yet, it fails to answer my original question which is where do the words register true

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: super and subscript not proportional (too slim and ugly)

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Are you sure you want to use that particular font? ... a different one might give you the look you desire, or you could change the size of the super-/sub-scripts ... I've found that's the only way to get fonts to behave the way I want them to so do ... for the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/08/2012 03:57 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 08/08/12 00:11, Steve Morris wrote: Just my 2 cents worth. Businesses with a heavy investment in office can't migrate to LO, as LO is not a functional replacement for office 2002, IMHO that's not true let alone 2010. A lot of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: super and subscript not proportional (too slim and ugly)

2012-08-08 Thread Liang Wang
Thank you for reply. I did try different fonts but havent found one that really works. The subscripts do not even proportion consistently -they do look normal in one of my slide. On Aug 8, 2012 9:16 AM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure you want to use that particular

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Gordon, you're correct, but trying to convince many - especially businesses - of this logic, can be next to impossible ;-) For some reason, the training is done on MSFT machines with MSFT programs and the idea of change is scary even if this change will protect their machines from

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Tom, well done. Maybe those at LO will listen, but I don't know what more they could do; the problem probably originates from the States due to the massive use of MSFT products ... hackers attack these ... MSFT responds with their endless stream of fixes ... hackers

[libreoffice-users] Report Builder: output as a spreadsheet

2012-08-08 Thread Dan
The Report Builder extension permits two types of output: a text document, and a spreadsheet. Using LO 3.5.5.3, I can create a report selecting the layout as a spreadsheet. When I execute the report, I only get a layout in a spreadsheet; I do not get any data. Is there a problem here? Has

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: super and subscript not proportional (too slim and ugly)

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Liang, you're correct; this is a problem about which too few of us care, I guess. Maybe they will understand what we're saying ... and find a solution for us ;-) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Liang Wang frank0...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for reply. I did try different fonts

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/08/2012 10:10 AM, anne-ology wrote: Tom, well done. Maybe those at LO will listen, but I don't know what more they could do; the problem probably originates from the States due to the massive use of MSFT products ... hackers attack these ... MSFT responds with

[libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-08 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
I am working on a Windows desktop that has 3.4.x [.5 or .6] on it. I am using Control Panel to remove it before I install 3.5.5. Well it has taken over 1/2 hour to remove it, and still has time to go. This is on a Sempron 3500+ CPU, 512 MB ram, running XP. This very slow removal is also

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Jay, you're speaking logically; too few people today seem to think logically - or to even think ;-) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/08/2012 10:10 AM, anne-ology wrote: Tom, well done. Maybe those at LO will listen, but I

Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a paragraph using styles)

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Brager
While I've traditionally used google translate, somehow I ended up at Bing translate. Bing says: It is a remarkable admiration So it pays to shop around. On 8/8/2012 5:32 AM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 07/08/2012 at 21:39, Andrew Brager apb3...@bak.rr.com wrote: however the argument falls

[libreoffice-users] Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread teknow
I have a list of measured times in [H]:MM:SS format and I would like to sum them. If I put in a formula: = B2+B3+B4+B5 it works, but if I try: =Sum(B2:B5) I get 00:00:00 as a result. What am I missing? I have tried both LibO 3.5.5.3 and 3.6.0.4 Thanks. -- View this message in context:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: register true origins

2012-08-08 Thread Andrew Brager
On 8/7/2012 7:11 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 12:39 07/08/2012 -0700, Andrew Brager wrote: Yet, it fails to answer my original question which is where do the words register true come from, and to extend and clarify the question - how did register true come to mean aligning baselines? I think

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread Dan
teknow wrote: I have a list of measured times in [H]:MM:SS format and I would like to sum them. If I put in a formula: = B2+B3+B4+B5 it works, but if I try: =Sum(B2:B5) I get 00:00:00 as a result. What am I missing? I have tried both LibO 3.5.5.3 and 3.6.0.4 Thanks. Did you format

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/8 teknow teknowledg...@gmail.com: I have a list of measured times in [H]:MM:SS format and I would like to sum them. If I put in a formula: = B2+B3+B4+B5 it works, but if I try: =Sum(B2:B5) I get 00:00:00 as a result. What am I missing? Exactly how did you enter those time

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/8 Dan elderdanle...@gmail.com: teknow wrote: I have a list of measured times in [H]:MM:SS format and I would like to sum them. If I put in a formula: = B2+B3+B4+B5 it works, but if I try: =Sum(B2:B5) I get 00:00:00 as a result. What am I missing? I have tried both LibO

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 08/08/12 15:01, anne-ology wrote: Gordon, you're correct, but trying to convince many - especially businesses - of this logic, can be next to impossible ;-) The problem doesn't seem to be so much with management not wanting to change - it seems to be with fear of the IT dept. Many

[libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread Jeff Hahn
I have two questions on LibreOffice 3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro in Calc (Tools – Macros) the record macro function is no longer there. I can run existing macros, I just cannot find where to create new ones. Where do I go to create new one? Second, in writer I used to be able to

[libreoffice-users] printing problem PDF Postscript

2012-08-08 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
on my dell latitude 6510, opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 Build ID: 350m1(Build:403), font liberation serif, printer samsung CLP-320N using writer, when I print, sometimes and often, the first letter of a chapter or of the table is wrong, wrong means that is an unreadable

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/8 Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com: I have two questions on LibreOffice 3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro in Calc (Tools – Macros) the record macro function is no longer there. I have LibreOffice 3.5.5.3 and there is no record macro option there either. Seems that they gave up that

RE: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread Jeff Hahn
Record new macros. Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 21:22:35 +0200 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6 From: gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org 2012/8/8 Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com: I have two questions on LibreOffice 3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread drew jensen
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 21:22 +0200, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/8/8 Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com: I have two questions on LibreOffice 3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro in Calc (Tools – Macros) the record macro function is no longer there. I have LibreOffice 3.5.5.3 and there is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Jeff, On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com wrote: I have two questions on LibreOffice 3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro in Calc (Tools – Macros) the record macro function is no longer there. I can run existing macros, I just cannot find where to create new ones.

Re: [libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-08 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-08-08 11:04 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I am using Control Panel to remove it before I install 3.5.5. Well it has taken over 1/2 hour to remove it, and still has time to go. This is on a Sempron 3500+ CPU, 512 MB ram, running XP. This very slow removal

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Jay Lozier
On 08/08/2012 01:39 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 08/08/12 15:01, anne-ology wrote: Gordon, you're correct, but trying to convince many - especially businesses - of this logic, can be next to impossible ;-) The problem doesn't seem to be so much with management not wanting to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: super and subscript not proportional (too slim and ugly)

2012-08-08 Thread Liang Wang
Hi anne-ology, * * *I just realized that the strange behavior of sub-/superscripts is caused by the automatic adjustment of text box when you choose fit to frame. Remove that tick and manually set the appropriate font will get everything look good!!!* * * *well, after so many diggs...* * * *Liang*

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread James Knott
Jay Lozier wrote: When MS introduced Win95 they were well positioned to implement a good GUI for MSOffice, they had already do it once on the Mac. Check out Novell vs Microsoft for info on how Microsoft used hidden API on Windows to ensure their apps worked better than the competition.

[libreoffice-users] Re: Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread teknow
Thanks for the responses. I'm being given an already filled-out .xlsx, but I'm not seeing a difference if I save it to .ods. The cells are identified as in H:MM format, but the actual measurements are in minutes and seconds (with a few H:MM:SS sprinkled in). It's a bit confusing because what I

Re: [libreoffice-users] why does Windows version take so long to remove?

2012-08-08 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 08/08/2012 03:49 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-08-08 11:04 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I am using Control Panel to remove it before I install 3.5.5. Well it has taken over 1/2 hour to remove it, and still has time to go. This is on a Sempron 3500+ CPU, 512 MB

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't Sum() time measurements

2012-08-08 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/8/8 teknow teknowledg...@gmail.com: Thanks for the responses. I'm being given an already filled-out .xlsx, but I'm not seeing a difference if I save it to .ods. The cells are identified as in H:MM format, but the actual measurements are in minutes and seconds (with a few H:MM:SS

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Jay Lozier
95On 08/08/2012 03:59 PM, James Knott wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: When MS introduced Win95 they were well positioned to implement a good GUI for MSOffice, they had already do it once on the Mac. Check out Novell vs Microsoft for info on how Microsoft used hidden API on Windows to ensure their

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Steve Edmonds
Sounds a lot like the battered wife syndrome. steve On 2012-08-09 02:10, anne-ology wrote: Tom, well done. Maybe those at LO will listen, but I don't know what more they could do; the problem probably originates from the States due to the massive use of MSFT

Re: register true origins (was Re: [libreoffice-users] inserting (exactly) a line before a paragraph using styles)

2012-08-08 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 8 Aug 2012, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Felmon, I find your attitude towards discussion worth a respect. I wish everyone would do as you do. thank you! danke! Dziękuję! I think we agree in most of points. I would only like to comment this part: On 07/08/2012 at 18:58, Felmon Davis

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Steve Morris
On 09/08/12 00:56, Jay Lozier wrote: On 08/08/2012 10:10 AM, anne-ology wrote: Tom, well done. Maybe those at LO will listen, but I don't know what more they could do; the problem probably originates from the States due to the massive use of MSFT products ...

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: register true origins

2012-08-08 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
Back in 1973, I had was working in the US on a camera-ready book composition, and I was given the Pocket Pal, a graphic artsproduction handbook, from International Paper Company (10th edition (1970), 3rd printing, rev. January 1973. (the original edition is 1934) as a reference book for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Pivottable/Chart Compatibility in Calc 3.6 with Excel 2002

2012-08-08 Thread Steve Morris
On 08/08/12 22:52, anne-ology wrote: has the file possibly been made read-only or locked? No, I have these problems irrespective of whether I try to work in an existing excel spreadsheet or have Calc create a new odf spreadsheet and work in that. The excel spreadsheets are normally

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread T Hopkins
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: The problem doesn't seem to be so much with management not wanting to change - it seems to be with fear of the IT dept. There are very sound reasons that businesses are conservative. Businesses don't like change because change costs

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread Anthony Easthope
When at home it is a case of using LO but when at work and school it is a matter of using Mo as that is what everybody else uses. I prefer to use LO for the simplicity that it has attached with it. I remember being taught as a 5 year old to use MO 2003 and becoming quite proficient in its use.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Impress: super and subscript not proportional (too slim and ugly)

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
yes, I've determined all needs to be done manually ;-) On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Liang Wang frank0...@gmail.com wrote: Hi anne-ology, * * *I just realized that the strange behavior of sub-/superscripts is caused by the automatic adjustment of text box when you choose fit to

Re: [libreoffice-users] Do You Share ODF Documents With MS Office Users?

2012-08-08 Thread anne-ology
Tod, you're correct; although the businesses fail to consider the cost of safeguarding their machines; a cost which would be considerably reduced by not using the MSFT products. On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:26 PM, T Hopkins hopl...@hillmanncarr.com wrote: On Aug 8,

[libreoffice-users] Re: printing problem PDF Postscript

2012-08-08 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Pier, Le 2012-08-08 14:41, yahoo-pier_andreit a écrit : on my dell latitude 6510, opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 Build ID: 350m1(Build:403), font liberation serif, printer samsung CLP-320N using writer, when I print, sometimes and often, the first letter of a chapter or

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: printing problem PDF Postscript

2012-08-08 Thread Steve Edmonds
On 2012-08-09 13:00, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Pier, Le 2012-08-08 14:41, yahoo-pier_andreit a écrit : on my dell latitude 6510, opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 Build ID: 350m1(Build:403), font liberation serif, printer samsung CLP-320N using writer, when I print, sometimes and

[libreoffice-users] Re: printing problem PDF Postscript

2012-08-08 Thread Marc Paré
Hi Steve et al, Le 2012-08-08 21:12, Steve Edmonds a écrit : On 2012-08-09 13:00, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Pier, Le 2012-08-08 14:41, yahoo-pier_andreit a écrit : on my dell latitude 6510, opensuse 12.1, kde 4.9, LibreOffice 3.5:build-403 Build ID: 350m1(Build:403), font liberation serif,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

2012-08-08 Thread Walther Koehler
Hi, thanks for the hints where to find the macro recorder in 3.5.5. to me, its a very useful to tool and helped a lot, to learn how macros work. In some cases its the only chance to get something work by use of the dispatcher. Please keep it in the future. Walther Am Mittwoch, 8. August