Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-13 Thread Tom Davies
having more Areas of Knowledge than they can write-up quickly.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Wed, 11/7/12, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc To: users@global.libreoffice.org

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-10 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Tom, On 7/7/12 5:59 PM, Tom Davies wrote: I think one advantage of wiki's is that they are easy for anyone to update anytime. Hopefully information from that gets fed into blogs and official documentation and maybe even the help files. The question I would pose to you is, is the wiki

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-07 Thread Tom Davies
very complex ideas with no training.  Regards from Tom :)  --- On Thu, 5/7/12, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 5 July, 2012, 14

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-05 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 04.07.2012 17:42, Ken Springer wrote: For the ordinary user, not only does LO need to explain the basics by using =FUNCTION(number ; text ; range ; vector ) and =FUNCTION( function_number(x) ; function_text(x) ; function_range(x) ; function_vector(x) ) with explanations, you need examples

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-05 Thread Ken Springer
On 7/5/12 2:41 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: snip All this had been written hundreds of times for dozends of spreadsheets applications in books, web-pages, mailing lists and forums. People don't read this. I know, but I have a hard time blaming X percent of them. I run into many users who have

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-07-04 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Andreas, Sorry for the late reply, but I just came off 4 workdays, 11 hours each plus commuting time. :-) I didn't have time to do any newsgroup replies. Comments for discussion, not for assistance. :-) On 6/30/12 10:54 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 30.06.2012 14:09, Ken Springer

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Ken, There is no way to help further without a single formula nor data. I have no idea what your problem is. Like in any programming language un-nesting is a good way to debug steps. Threre are a billion of cells on each sheet. Use as many as possible and things will clear up. Have a nice

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 30.06.2012 02:17, Ken Springer wrote: chapters are there before they get put together to form the entire book. Unfortunately, there's nothing there for 3.5.x.x.:-( And the Formula Wizard is different in 3.5.x.x. I compared the wizard in 3.5 with the one in OOo 1.1 of 2004. Apart

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Dan
Ken Springer wrote: On 6/28/12 11:42 PM, Andreas Säger wrote: Hi, Like any other programming language Calc can nest functions as far as the data types of the incoming parameters match the data types of the nested function results. The details are mostly the same as with any other spreadsheet

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 30.06.2012 02:37, Ken Springer wrote: And I've not been able to come up with a competent explanation of what I'm trying to accomplish. :) That's what *you* have got to explain to the application. Any competent resource on spreadsheets tells you how to tell anything to the

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Andreas, On 6/30/12 2:25 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Ken, There is no way to help further without a single formula nor data. I have no idea what your problem is. Like in any programming language un-nesting is a good way to debug steps. Threre are a billion of cells on each sheet. Use as many

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/30/12 5:28 AM, Dan wrote: When it comes to databases, it is always a matter of planning and designing. Doing this correctly may result in a subcompact car rather than a Mack truck for a simple database. Obviously, when you want more a more complex output, it will increase in

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/30/12 5:33 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 30.06.2012 02:37, Ken Springer wrote: And I've not been able to come up with a competent explanation of what I'm trying to accomplish. :) That's what *you* have got to explain to the application. Any competent resource on spreadsheets tells you

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 30.06.2012 14:09, Ken Springer wrote: After reading your other new replies, I'm wondering if the way I wrote my posts led you to some wrong conclusions. Possibly, it came out sounding more complicated than the problem really was, as I did get it solved. It wasn't the logic or the functions

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-30 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 30.06.2012 14:52, Ken Springer wrote: What frustrates me is there seems to be very few simple and easy to grasp and use database programs anymore. Some database such as MySQL is a development tool for well paid professional computer geeks. To some extent you need to get the same way of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  It makes a lot of sense.  Hopefully the proper LO documentation is far better than most!  The Pdfs allow you to click on items in the Table-of-Contents and has other clickable links to help you navigate to where you want quickly.  The built-in help is probably fairly poor right now. 

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 29.06.2012 09:04, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It makes a lot of sense. Hopefully the proper LO documentation is far better than most! The Pdfs allow you to click on items in the Table-of-Contents and has other clickable links to help you navigate to where you want quickly. The built-in help

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P
On 06/29/2012 04:10 AM, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 29.06.2012 09:04, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It makes a lot of sense. Hopefully the proper LO documentation is far better than most! The Pdfs allow you to click on items in the Table-of-Contents and has other clickable links to help you navigate

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 29.06.2012 10:49, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Is there a place where users can drop off a description on how to do something that is not explained in the current documentation? The current docs are guides and not how-to books. For me, how-to books are more example driven where there are

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 28.06.2012 02:43, Jay Lozier wrote: Generally you can nest functions several levels deep in any spreadsheet. Typically the maximum is 7 levels but I would not go beyond about 3 because it becomes to difficult to follow the logic. You could have something like =if( (x or y), if( (a and b),

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Ken Springer
Hi, Tom, On 6/28/12 3:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: This link has the guides but also has links to 3rd party documentation and stuff https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications The official guides are uploaded there before officially released on the website and individual

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/28/12 3:38 AM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 7:57 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-29 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/28/12 11:42 PM, Andreas Säger wrote: Hi, Like any other programming language Calc can nest functions as far as the data types of the incoming parameters match the data types of the nested function results. The details are mostly the same as with any other spreadsheet program of the past 30

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
to form the entire book.  So, smaller targeted downloads :) Regards from Tom :)  --- On Thu, 28/6/12, Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com wrote: From: Ken Springer snowsh...@q.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-28 Thread Dan
Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 7:57 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how to use

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-28 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/28/12 3:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: So, smaller targeted downloads:) Now that I have DSL, I don't mind downloading the entire book. Don't know which chapter to look in anyway. LOL -- Ken Mac OS X 10.6.8 Firefox 13.0.1 Thunderbird 13.0.1 LibreOffice 3.5.2.2 -- For unsubscribe

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-28 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/28/12 3:38 AM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 7:57 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-28 Thread Andreas Säger
Hi, Like any other programming language Calc can nest functions as far as the data types of the incoming parameters match the data types of the nested function results. The details are mostly the same as with any other spreadsheet program of the past 30 years with the only exception that

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-27 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how to use them. I need to nest some of the functions, if that's possible.

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-27 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/27/12 6:43 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: Ken, On 06/27/2012 07:24 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how to use them. I need to nest some of the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-27 Thread Dan
Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how to use them. I need to nest some of the functions, if that's

[libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-27 Thread Ken Springer
On 6/27/12 7:57 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 5:48 PM, Dan wrote: Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how to use them. I need to nest

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Using and Formatting Logical Functions in Calc

2012-06-27 Thread Jay Lozier
On 06/27/2012 09:58 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/27/12 6:43 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: Ken, On 06/27/2012 07:24 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Is there a more detailed set of examples of using the functions anywhere? The Help Files have a general outline of each, but only very generic examples of how