Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
Hi :) The documentation team ODFauthors are working very hard to get the various types of documentation completed. If anyone can spare time to help them it would be very much appreciated. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 4 February, 2011 4:19:47 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Question On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:04 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net wrote: Le 2011-02-03 21:49, MR ZenWiz a écrit : This is the first time I've tried to use help in LO, and YUCK! What is so wrong with having a genuine local help file for the LibreOffice Help button and a separate web help item, even if that's the default? I don't dislike a lot of features that are supposed to provide help, but I absolutely detest a local help button that kicks off a browser to an online site. Civilized words fail me. Cold it be related to Java or the lack thereof? I have LibreOffice (final version) on an XP system here and on a Windows 7 64-bit system at the office, and in both cases, all I get is a *local* help file. I see no options to look for an online help nor any preference that would allow me to switch to online help I also have the latest Java ((r.23) installed on my computers. It gets worse. On my desktop (Ubuntu 10.10), when I try to use the Help function in Writer, it opens a new window which looks like a nice text box for local help, then LO crashes. # # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7fc23634f2e4, pid=5099, tid=140472896546560 # # JRE version: 6.0_20-b20 # Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (19.0-b09 mixed mode linux-amd64 compressed oops) # Derivative: IcedTea6 1.9.4 # Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10, package 6b20-1.9.4-0ubuntu1 # Problematic frame: # C [libucpchelp1.so+0x462e4] # # An error report file with more information is saved as: # /home/mar/hs_err_pid5099.log # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please include # instructions how to reproduce the bug and visit: # https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/ # [error occurred during error reporting , id 0xb] -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE
In data 03 febbraio 2011 alle ore 16:11:18, jesawyers j...@sawyersnet.com ha scritto: I wanted to give more information on this problem (i.e. scroll crashing libreOffice) because I am having the same problem with a document. Here is the error I'm getting when scrolling through the attached document and get to page 5. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2414446/libreOffice_Error.bmp http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2414446/MA77950_MH_Kettle_GS_Addendum-Rev_A_SFK.doc I can reproduce it in both .odf and .doc format with this document. Indeed, I have even found a different expression of this bug: goto the last text line of page 4 and the go down into page 5 by using the keyboard down arrow. LibreOffice *freezes* but doesn't crash on my system. When this happens, I can move the scroll bar up and down with the mouse wheel, but the document content is just freezed. Maybe it's time to open a bug and to attach the offending document to it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi Regards, Gianluca -- Tempesta e Passione sbarcano su Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sturm-Drang-Gianluca-Turconi/dp/B004J06MJK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1296379475sr=8-2 Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza, fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale: http://www.letturefantastiche.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Hi, Robert, Before I get to my responses, some comments. I'm going to write my comments in blue. I don't know if the color will be retained as the message goes through the system, but if it does, it will make it easier to know which of my comments are for this submission. As Strother Martin said in Cool Hand Luke, What we have here is a failure to communicate. After reading some of your responses, if I understand your responses correctly, that is what we have. I wrote text that I intended to be interpreted with meaning A, but you interpreted the text with meaning B. Not an unusual circumstance, it happens all the time. Which reminds me of a bit if history I watched unfold many years ago. I had just gotten my computer online, and this was in the days when my shiny new 1200 baud modem was state of the art. No web, no Internet, Bulletin Board Systems ruled the world! :-) I was following a thread when Tom posted a message. Dick wrote a reply. When I read it, I said to myself, S**T! It's going to it the fan now. Dick wrote a reply that I knew what his meaning was, but I also knew that Tom would likely place a different meaning on it. And Tom did just that. The thread turned into a huge flame war that really wasn't necessary. I'm not here to have a flame war, just an honest discussion. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 01:44:15PM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: Hi , Tom, Likewise, I used to encourage the use of open source software also. And on a personal level, I always try to find an open source program for my use. And my issue is not with the software itself. Even though my impression is the software is sometimes slightly buggier, the problems seem to be when using advanced functions. And a function I don't think the average user is likely to attempt. It's user support where things fall flat on it's face. I only have one person in my family and friends who would even have a clue as to how to utilize a mailing list. It's way too cumbersome and clunky for the people I know. Even I had trouble figuring this one out! LOL That's hard to believe. Mailing lists are dead simple assuming the ability to read with comprehension. You're only correct if your definition of user support is individual personal hand holding. Reading with comprehension is not universal. That's why IQ tests can be structured so some groups do better than others based on history and experience. As such, I no longer believe in them. You may read something and know exactly what is being said, another person may not. Just a little reading test for fun, what does the following phrase mean? Offer the bearing unto the shell. No cheating by using Google, please. LOL It's a reading comprehension test solely for fun, OK? It means nothing. And let me know how long it took you, or anyone else reading this, to figure it out. And another thing I've learned over the years, never proofread your own writing! LMAO There are a lot of users out there, I believe, that could make use of open source software, but these people usually don't even understand directories/folders, partitioning, the very basics of using a computer. When I start to talk to them about disk cleanup and defragging (Windows), you should see the blank faces I encounter. :-) Little of this is necessary to use the GUI (graphical user interface). As I wrote in another post, any particular GUI is not universally intuitive to everyone. But surprisingly, some of them have figured out how to use forums. Even thought a lot of the forums have very nice editors, the fourms seem to be lousy when it comes to instructions on how to use the editor. The Open Office forum editor has the /list commands, but how my average people will know anything about using HTML commands? What HTML commands are needed to use an editor? If you go to the full editor in the Open Office forums, you'll find the following commands listed across the top of the reply window: Code, List, List=, Img, Table=, Aligntable=, etc. When you click the button, the formatting is essentially like using HTML. I've always believed this just to be a customized version/offshoot of HTML, if you will, and modified so it doesn't interfere with regular HTML code. I will admit I could be wrong about that, but I believe the observation still stands, how is the average user supposed to easily understand how to implement those codes? The Survival Guide mentioned at the top of the page mentions nothing about the formatting buttons I listed, nor anything about the meaning of the smilies. I've used text smilies for years, yet I still don't know what all of the various text smilies or graphical smilies mean. And in my personal opinion, Gmail has some of the worst graphical smilies ever created! LOL I will own up to not looking for instructions, but there's also no link to
Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Basic: VBA ActiveSheet errors after saving xls to *.ods
Hi :) Macros in LibreOffice/OpenOffice are written in a very much different format than the Excel ones. Excel macros have been know to spread malware and some offices disable them by default. Regards from Tom :) From: 4logon 4lo...@mailinator.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011 21:36:40 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Calc - Basic: VBA ActiveSheet errors after saving xls to *.ods hi, i have a small Excel sheet with a simple VBA makro inside. If I execute it with Libre-Calc everything works fine... . When I save the Excel file as LibreOffice File *.ods the VBA script failed at the line: .. Set tmpTable = ActiveSheet or workSheetName = ActiveSheet.Name ... I think this is a BUG!!!- ActiveSheet is no longer present after saving Excel file to LibreOfficeCalc file!!! Any idea??? code: Option VBASupport 1 Sub Main Dim workSheetName As String workSheetName = ActiveSheet.Name ' and do on.. End Sub -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-Basic-VBA-ActiveSheet-errors-after-saving-xls-to-ods-tp2418343p2418343.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE
Grazie mille Gianluca ... auguri. Thanks for open the BUG. Warms regards. -- Manel León González */ Logistical Modules (MM-PM-PS) Manager for IS-U companies at IBM Support Center / Mobile phone: +34663736493 / skype ID: manelleon* El 04/02/2011 9:07, Gianluca Turconi escribió: In data 03 febbraio 2011 alle ore 16:11:18, jesawyers j...@sawyersnet.com ha scritto: I wanted to give more information on this problem (i.e. scroll crashing libreOffice) because I am having the same problem with a document. Here is the error I'm getting when scrolling through the attached document and get to page 5. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2414446/libreOffice_Error.bmp http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2414446/MA77950_MH_Kettle_GS_Addendum-Rev_A_SFK.doc I can reproduce it in both .odf and .doc format with this document. Indeed, I have even found a different expression of this bug: goto the last text line of page 4 and the go down into page 5 by using the keyboard down arrow. LibreOffice *freezes* but doesn't crash on my system. When this happens, I can move the scroll bar up and down with the mouse wheel, but the document content is just freezed. Maybe it's time to open a bug and to attach the offending document to it: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi Regards, Gianluca -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: Hi, Robert, way too long to include Do the words Edit your replies to leave out what isn't relevant mean anything in this discussion? You do know that this stuff is all archived and therefore need NOT be included in every single reply, right? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
Hi, Cliff, you hijacked a thread (meaning replying to an email and only changing the subject). Please ask new questions in a new thread (by composing a new message and not replying). Your email appears in a different thread in my mail client. So you might get less responses to your question. Thanks. On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: Greetings everyone, I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? Thanks for any help anyone can give. Which version did you install? Did you also install the corresponding language pack? If I remember correctly, you have to install 1. software package 2. language package 3. help package In this order. I agree, that this is unfortunate. I don't know, if this is well explained on the download page or not. If not, it should be added there, so that the user doesn't get a surprise of a not working local help. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE
In data 04 febbraio 2011 alle ore 10:07:15, Manel León manell...@gmail.com ha scritto: Thanks for open the BUG. Warms regards. Here is the bug: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33894 I've seen other people have similar issues on this list. However I don't know whether it's *exactly* the same problem, so it's better the devs test your document and see what happens. Regards, Gianluca -- Tempesta e Passione sbarcano su Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sturm-Drang-Gianluca-Turconi/dp/B004J06MJK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1296379475sr=8-2 Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza, fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale: http://www.letturefantastiche.com/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? Thanks for any help anyone can give. Which version did you install? Did you also install the corresponding language pack? If I remember correctly, you have to install 1. software package 2. language package 3. help package In this order. I agree, that this is unfortunate. I don't know, if this is well explained on the download page or not. If not, it should be added there, so that the user doesn't get a surprise of a not working local help. Also, be sure that Libreoffice language settings are set accordingly, or it might not try to pull the corresponding local help file. -- Cley Faye http://cleyfaye.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/2011 08:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: I'm going to write my comments in blue. What does blue sound like? I don't know if the colour will be be retained as the message goes through the system, The only safe assumption that can be made, is that most of the content of a message will be delivered. Depending upon the recipient's setup, both presentation markup and content markup can be, and usually is completely obliterated and destroyed. following commands listed across the top of the reply window: Code, List, List=, Img, Table=, Aligntable=, etc. When you click the button, the formatting is essentially like using HTML. I've always believed this just to be a customized version/offshoot of HTML, if you will, and modified so it doesn't interfere with regular HTML code. That is either BBCode, or sanitized HTML. It is used only for presentation markup. It is not required for content creation. I've used text smilies for years, yet I still don't know what all of the various text smilies or graphical smilies mean. Currently, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=text+smiley%27s seems to be broken. :( jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNS9ksAAoJEERA7YuLpVrV1PgIAKovby9ECInFy8zWgx9Qlygg HtmTYZ/Ggsp0r9cTVkHordnDFcANWukkGbLIES4NaC6+IcXV6+0G80IY8H1ELt9y pCQQsWRbEtGKdtjpKB2PfTZDuBOYn/JOMQOIZsi/ZaPsr8XW0ViNdyp7zuJV4pq1 r/blEzLlIJdHej1aJj6X+7cszwFUa4PGbL3gsaoF2XkqAc0uXRuHIU8IqcrZuwb7 dh2hUh+iExxhXrE0iaq0APw49SSkoo90Uii8qrXr9Rsg+DXYmayp1oUmuKh8nA5t kb9fNMYB6kv9a+fJ0Zt3SVPfL2NoOw0+gvKWGiieJgAIGco1on9kLqwekpS/KlE= =ECqL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] spell check, grammar check, dictionary system - my answer/solution given to OOo thread.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/04/2011 03:50 AM, T. R. Valentine wrote: But in a language with homophones, homographs, heteronyms, and heterographs, I can't even begin to imagine how one could code for all the possibilities ( First you check for word order. Then you check for word pair frequency. - From a practical point of view, the biggest hurdle is constructing the database to be used for checking the word order. Constructing the expert system to validate the grammar is fairly straightforward. Time consuming, but doable. - From a legal point of view, the issue is patents. Thousands of them. Most of which are obvious, and nothing more than use a computer to detect if these words are sequential, or not. jonathon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNS9yTAAoJEERA7YuLpVrVOdQH/jZpcuigfSfBq+3Yd8nB6pmw Nbk3aCaTMN2QYy9RcT/HRMZWcwiwgGmpmrhKLc6M2LAWT8sWMIyn3vPOAmku6Cso ZaaS0f2VJ+HIBb5TKQTX9RVY4qsym0Hnf8++xdJErIouDYNnVjuwWaWyaN0x03o7 hdBZrTO3uM8RnzocqSSTqPx8nayU3wykfyaLiiRXebu20e+wCoYN6mp2+nZfIc3+ tjFDIP8/YJ2kktDd27Y58leZBkjyD9OEa0wWGp4a0V1phudLCpjItEHXcHcFLAXG MCwklnrtMFmX1I3zL9KCAQbV2ps8VINx+pWztaBQLmr5u4P7Y+Pc33b+u/CE214= =bwQC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On 04/02/2011 12:01, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Please can we stop posting criticisms of Ken's opinions? But his reasoning as to why he doesn't advocate FOSS is flawed. His given reasons are spurious and don't hold up in real life. That's the point... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:08:48 + (GMT) Ahah, i think you have to download the 2nd file as advised in quite a few places in order to get help-files downloaded onto your machine. Many people would consider the help-files extra bloat and struggle to keep their system bloat-free. At least i think that is how it works with most OpenSource programs. Regards from Tom :) Tom, If you reread my original post you will see that I did that. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Question
** Reply to message from Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:23:24 +0100 Hi, Cliff, you hijacked a thread (meaning replying to an email and only changing the subject). Please ask new questions in a new thread (by composing a new message and not replying). Your email appears in a different thread in my mail client. So you might get less responses to your question. Thanks. On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: Greetings everyone, I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? Thanks for any help anyone can give. Which version did you install? Did you also install the corresponding language pack? If I remember correctly, you have to install 1. software package 2. language package 3. help package In this order. I agree, that this is unfortunate. I don't know, if this is well explained on the download page or not. If not, it should be added there, so that the user doesn't get a surprise of a not working local help. Thanks for our response Sigrid. I did indeed hijack a thread not knowing it would make any difference at all. I'll take your suggestion regarding starting a new thread in the future. I downloaded and installed the LibreOffice 3.3 US English Multi version, i.e. not the universal one will all the other languages. I started LO then realized that the help went online and remembered that I had to install the help package. I closed LO installed the help package and tried again, but it still goes directly to the online help. I even restarted the computer. Finally I ran the setup from the help directory and told it to check everything which it did, but still no help. I wonder if the problem was running LO before installing help. Maybe I should uninstall everything and reinstall and see if it helps. Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
I have been using OOO 3.2, and now have installed libre office 3.3, yesterday. In both I have noticed the following : - whenever I tried making a table (mainly for tender specification-cum-compliance) wherein I create a table with say 3 to 4 coloums, and tried cutting pasting in each cell, the table starts in a new page. - this is happening always with both the OOO LO3.3 - I will usually have 3 or 4 lines - which contains the headings and after than I create a table. Every time in this page - only the headings will be there. The table gets to the next page, leaving the first page fully blank - only with the headings. What should I do for making the table which was created - just after the headings - to stay there only. please help. s.sivakumar mumbai india -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/the-table-starts-everytime-in-a-new-page-after-I-type-the-heading-for-the-table-tp2423088p2423088.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: WinXP LibO offline help
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ... I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? ... Hi, WinXP SP2 jre_1.6.0-23 LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4 LibO_3.3.0_win_x86_helppack_en-US.exe No problems using offline help (F1)... Try this: Tools Options LibreOffice Java Check Java options: [x]Use a Java runtime environment If installed, your 'jre' must check radio-button under Java runtime environments (JRE) already installed:. Regards, Lyudmil On 2/4/11, users+h...@libreoffice.org users+h...@libreoffice.org wrote: Topics (messages 1882 through 1911): [libreoffice-users] Question 1882 - Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net [libreoffice-users] Question 1883 - Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1884 - Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net [libreoffice-users] Question 1885 - T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1886 - Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1887 - Chris Carpenter mordo...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1888 - MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1889 - NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net [libreoffice-users] spell check, grammar check, dictionary system - my answer/solution given to OOo thread. 1890 - webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1891 - Michel Gagnon mic...@mgagnon.net [libreoffice-users] spell check, grammar check, dictionary system - my answer/solution given to OOo thread. 1892 - T. R. Valentine trvalent...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Calc - Basic: VBA ActiveSheet errors after saving xls to *.ods 1893 - 4logon 4lo...@mailinator.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1894 - MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1895 - MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1896 - Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net [libreoffice-users] suggested feature Writer Autocorrect Word completion 1897 - John Notminsk jo0...@yahoo.com [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1898 - Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1899 - Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net [libreoffice-users] Question 1900 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE 1901 - Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1902 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1903 - Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net [libreoffice-users] Calc - Basic: VBA ActiveSheet errors after saving xls to *.ods 1904 - Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE 1905 - ??? manell...@gmail.com [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1906 - MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1907 - Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Scroll (Up Down) crash LIBREOFFICE 1908 - Gianluca Turconi m...@letturefantastiche.com [libreoffice-users] Question 1909 - Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice 1910 - toki toki.kant...@gmail.com [libreoffice-users] spell check, grammar check, dictionary system - my answer/solution given to OOo thread. 1911 - toki toki.kant...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Good morning, Jonathon, On 02/04/2011 08:17 AM, Ken Springer wrote: I'm going to write my comments in blue. What does blue sound like? Just to be a smarta** this morning, I'm going to say it sounds like New Orleans Jazz, where people often sing the blues. LOL I don't know if the colour will be be retained as the message goes through the system, The only safe assumption that can be made, is that most of the content of a message will be delivered. Depending upon the recipient's setup, both presentation markup and content markup can be, and usually is completely obliterated and destroyed. I wasn't making any assumptions, but I did want to know what would happen to the color formatting. In my case, when the mailing list returned my message to me, the color was retained. That would lead me to believer the options would be good that if I used other formatting commands available to me, that would also be retained. As no one has mentioned it, I do not know if any other reader saw blue text. So, I have absolutely know idea if anyone other than myself sees blue text. following commands listed across the top of the reply window: Code, List, List=, Img, Table=, Aligntable=, etc. When you click the button, the formatting is essentially like using HTML. I've always believed this just to be a customized version/offshoot of HTML, if you will, and modified so it doesn't interfere with regular HTML code. That is either BBCode, or sanitized HTML. It is used only for presentation markup. It is not required for content creation. Agreed, it is not required for content creation, but the use of formatting tools leads to better comprehension and understanding of what a writer is trying to convey. That is why we need to use correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation. And no, I am *not* taking any issue of the posters on this list for whom English is a second or third language. I've used text smilies for years, yet I still don't know what all of the various text smilies or graphical smilies mean. Currently, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=text+smiley%27s seems to be broken. :( A few years ago, I did a Google search on smilies, and learned that not all lists of smilies had the same definition for a particular smiley. So I stick to just the basic ones. -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: just because something CAN be done does not mean it SHOULD be done. This applies to so many places in our world today. -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Good morning, Tom, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:01 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) Please can we stop posting criticisms of Ken's opinions? We don't all agree with each other, at least hopefully not! Hearing a different point of view is important and if people feel intimidated into being unable to express an unpopular opinion then we are going to miss developing better answers to suit more users. We have already heard that there are a few people that have good reason to find computer usage difficult. Thanks for the support, it's appreciated. I actually consider the discussions that are now two threads to be brainstorming, and I don't really consider it to be criticism. Just another point of view. And ultimately, if this discussion has a positive outcome, the end product will be better for it. And only Bob Holtzman's reply tweaked my sensibilities, as the saying goes. But I didn't want to fall into the Tom and Dick story line I posted, so I sat back for a couple hours before writing my reply. I always try to create a post without causing any undue hard feelings. But as we are all human beings, and we are unfortunately dealing with the written word, we can never be 100% successful in that. And a good reason for the use of text smilies to impart the emotions we are trying to convey. :-) Except possibly for me. I'm actually Commander Data's evil twin Lor! (That's for the Star Trek, Next Generation fans. LOL) Ken's concern might simply be a case of helping the documentation team develop systems and documentation but there might be other things we could do to help. Exactly. I've had to write instructions, company plans, etc. over the years. And it is so-o-o-o-o-o-o time consuming and hard to choose sentence structure, vocabulary, etc. to try to make your documents understandable to as many people as possible. So I do feel for the individuals who are involved in just the documentation process. Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Good morning again, Gordon, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote: His given reasons are spurious and don't hold up in real life. That's the point... Doesn't this mean that your real life experiences are different than mine? -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
Hi :) OpenOffice and LibreOffice often create problems for each other when both are installed. Try uninstalling one of them and then reinstall the one you are keeping. Since they are both free uninstalling and reinstalling is relatively trivial. Apparently there is some weird setting in OpenOffice that stops them both being easy to use together. Regards from Tom :) From: Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 4 February, 2011 13:12:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table Hello, On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 02:23:48 -0800 (PST) sivakumar calms...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using OOO 3.2, and now have installed libre office 3.3, yesterday. In both I have noticed the following : - whenever I tried making a table (mainly for tender specification-cum-compliance) wherein I create a table with say 3 to 4 coloums, and tried cutting pasting in each cell, the table starts in a new page. When you copy paste, try to insert as text only. I think, this can be achieved by using CTRL+Shift+V instead of STRL+V. You could also check the properties of the table. To do this, move your cursor into the table and the table toolbar appears. There's an icon called Table properties (a table with a small hammer, the 3rd icon from the right in the second row in my installation). Go to the register Text flow and check, if there is a checkmark for Break. It's the very first entry on this tab. If there is, just remove it and your table should appear again on the previous page when you close the dialog. - this is happening always with both the OOO LO3.3 - I will usually have 3 or 4 lines - which contains the headings and after than I create a table. Every time in this page - only the headings will be there. The table gets to the next page, leaving the first page fully blank - only with the headings. What should I do for making the table which was created - just after the headings - to stay there only. please help. I hope, that the above description will help you sort your problem out. If it doesn't work, then please come back and describe what you did. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Hi, Tom, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Do we have to criticise people or their ideas? This applies to venues other than Libre Office. :-( The world seems to be evolving to a point where different groups simply believe their way is the only way, and are unwilling to listen and learn from people with a different point of view. And then, learn how to accept the other point of view and live peacefully with each other. :-( And perhaps my observation is a bit off topic. :-) Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: WinXP LibO offline help
Hi Cliff, On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:19:54 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ** Reply to message from lnvas _at_data.bg ln...@data.bg on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:25:12 +0200 On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: [...] Hi, WinXP SP2 jre_1.6.0-23 LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:6) tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4 LibO_3.3.0_win_x86_helppack_en-US.exe No problems using offline help (F1)... Try this: Tools Options LibreOffice Java Check Java options: [x]Use a Java runtime environment If installed, your 'jre' must check radio-button under Java runtime environments (JRE) already installed:. Regards, Lyudmil Thanks for the suggestion. All is setup properly. The only difference is release 17 of Java rather than 23. If I don't have Internet access working then F1 just yells that it can't launch the Internet Help. Somehow it doesn't know the offline help files were installed. I did ask on the germanophone user list about installing the windows help files (I don't have a Windows installation). What I heard back is to ask you to check which locale is set for the UI and if you did indeed install the help file for the exact locale as well. So, please have a look at Tools Options language settings Which locale is set for the user interface under the language point? It has to be the same throughout. so en-US for the UI and en-US for the help file. If it doesn't match, then you'll have to change this. If this doesn't help, then I have no idea and you might want to file a bug report. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: WinXP LibO offline help
** Reply to message from lnvas _at_data.bg ln...@data.bg on Fri, 4 Feb 2011 16:25:12 +0200 On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:52:15 -0600 Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ... I've used OOo for a number of years. Today I installed LibreOffice to see how it did. So far so good, but one glitch that maybe someone can help me with. After the install on WinXP I ran the Help files installer supposedly successfully. My problem is that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get the offline help to work. F1 or the Help menu always brings up the online help. I am not always connected to the Internet so getting the offline help working is important to me. I've spent quite a bit of time searching for answers online, but with no joy. Have I just overlooked something simple? ... Hi Everyone, Thank you to all who made suggestions on how to solve my problem. I solved the problem by uninstalling both the help and program files, rebooting and then reinstalling everything. I think the issue may have be complicated by the fact that the first time I installed the help files I installed them to their own directory and not to the root of the LibreOffice installed directory as is normal. Even though it was allowed, apparently the link was not setup to the new directory so the program didn't see the files. Bug??? Cliff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Base form editing/creation impossible, missing dialog boxes and Menu bars
It is a known bug with the packages from Ubuntu PPA, I have removed it all, tried it again and still had the issue. I cleaned it once again and installed it from the deb packages on libreoffice site and all is working fine... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/709778 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/709778 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-form-editing-creation-impossible-missing-dialog-boxes-and-Menu-bars-tp2369127p2425194.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Hi, Sigrid, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] As part of this discussion, knowledge and education, more accurately a lack of knowledge and education, I have no idea what that represents! :-) If I were to hazard a guess, I would say it's another text representation for a smile. Am I close? LOL As no one has mentioned it, I do not know if any other reader saw blue text. So, I have absolutely know idea if anyone other than myself sees blue text. To give you some feedback: I don't see any colour formatting. But this is, because my mailer doesn't support any HTML. Honestly, I like it this way. And I prefer HTML. It makes it easier when people send you an email that has inline photos of the grandkid or something else they find interesting. I've used email clients in the past that didn't support HTML. To me, we each have our preferences, which is fine as long as we recognize those preferences, and that neither one is right or wrong. To see, who wrote what, you use the citation marks ('') and leave the names mentioned above (On date xyz wrote) the email. So you can see clearly, who said what. Of this I do know. LOL!! I actually prefer the citation mark (or carat or greater than sign LOL) over the straight line you possibly see in my replies. This email address from Dishmail.net is actually Gmail in disguise, and the user does not have the option of choosing a particular quotation style. The only way I could use the carat would be to manually manually edit the reply, or set up POP3/automatic forwarding to my desktop email client. But as of yet, I've not found a desktop client I'm happy with, so setting something up like that is currently way down towards the bottom of my priority list. In addition to citation marks, I actually find color to be quicker for me to determine who wrote what, and in which message. That is either BBCode, or sanitized HTML. It is used only for presentation markup. It is not required for content creation. This is very likely BBCode. This is used to make the use of forums safer. (You can insert malicious code into HTML, with BBCode this isn't possible.) So, that's what BBCode is for and does. Thanks for the information. This simply seems to reinforce my comments about education and knowledge. I'm all for anything that keeps those folks at bay. And also another reason I prefer my Mac to my Windows computers for my personal use. I do run antivirus, et. al., on the Mac though. Not because there is a huge amount of viruses and such out there for the Mac, but because I don't want a virus to manage to slip through my system and then I inadvertently forward the virus or whatever on to someone else. In the almost two years I've used the Mac, I've only had one virus successfully make it to my Mac, and that was from data I copied from another computer via thumb drive. I only have a free version of the software, and it doesn't check the data from sources like newly inserted thumb drives. I use only a very small set of smileys, where I know for sure what they mean. So I personally restrict myself to :) and ;) I think, those are more than sufficient. (At least, they are for me) ;) Same here. :-) Interestingly enough, I've used some email software that when you use this smiley, :), it doesn't know how to display it as HTML, but if you use :-), you're OK. I've also found the reverse, as well as the software understanding both. But, that doesn't do you a bit of good when someone types the smiley backwards, as in (-: for a smile. LOL Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: WinXP LibO offline help
Hi, On 2/4/11, Sigrid wrote: ... So, please have a look at Tools Options language settings Which locale is set for the user interface under the language point? It has to be the same throughout. so en-US for the UI and en-US for the help file. If it doesn't match, then you'll have to change this. ... Just to complete: my User Interface and HelpFile are EN_US my Locale Setting is BG have no problems with offline help, thou. Regards, Lyudmil -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) OpenOffice and LibreOffice often create problems for each other when both are installed. Try uninstalling one of them and then reinstall the one you are keeping. Since they are both free uninstalling and reinstalling is relatively trivial. Apparently there is some weird setting in OpenOffice that stops them both being easy to use together. On every platform? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
This discussion is so off-topic it doesn't even belong on this email list any more. Can you/we at least put it in a different topic thread with a big [OT] in front so we can skip it from the summary list? Ken, could you possibly stop using so much vertical space and shorten your 14-line signature? Thank you all. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Luuk luu...@gmail.com wrote: On 04-02-11 17:29, Ken Springer wrote: [...] :o :o :o !8-) This thread should be about LibreOffice, and not about how to use an emailclient... Thank you, Luuk. It should also be noted that this thread is not for making a dissertation out of every single email. I guess some people just have too much time on their hands -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:24 AM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: This discussion is so off-topic it doesn't even belong on this email list any more. Can you/we at least put it in a different topic thread with a big [OT] in front so we can skip it from the summary list? Ken, could you possibly stop using so much vertical space and shorten your 14-line signature? Thank you all. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.orgusers%2bh...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Ken Springer All progress depends upon the unreasonable person. George Bernard Shaw Cheap prices make for cheap goods; cheap goods make for cheap men; and cheap men make for a cheap country! President William McKinley http://www.greeleynet.com/~wordwork/airpage.htm -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
On Fri Feb 04 2011 07:52:57 GMT-0800 (PST) Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) OpenOffice and LibreOffice often create problems for each other when both are installed. Try uninstalling one of them and then reinstall the one you are keeping. Since they are both free uninstalling and reinstalling is relatively trivial. Apparently there is some weird setting in OpenOffice that stops them both being easy to use together. Regards from Tom :) This is strange as I have both installed here on Win7 Ubuntu 9.10 and have seen no problems. I have had both open at the same time setting up the Tools- Options settings. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Feature Requests, general procedure and an Idea
Hello First off, I'm relatively confident that this is the wrong mailing list for this, but I'm not sure which would be a better place. I have a feature request, and I'm not sure what to do with it. I don't believe it is a mature enough idea to submit as a feature request yet, and I think its complexity far outweighs my programming skills. I'd like to gauge others' interest, the ideal implementation, and the level of complexity and effort required to implement (can it be done as a plugin, etc?). Thoughts or a better venue for this type of discussion are much appreciatedI'd just like to get the ball rolling on this as an eventual feature. --- My idea is that the office should have an integrated command-window at the application level... something like Gnome-Do or the Spotlight/Quicksilver apps on mac (the best implementation, IMHO is the everything plugin for e17). basically, a small window is shown on hitting a convenient keyboard shortcut (or gui button of some type), into which arbitrary text is entered. Entering text searches a number of frequently used documents or commands along with (frequently-used) options for interacting with them. Let's say my command is CTRL + Spacebar. I hit CTRL + spacebar, type in foo, and it offers to search the current document(s) for foo, but might also bring up a list of documents entitled foo to open (or switch between, or perform other actions on), etc. The point to offer very convenient keyboard (and mouse) access to features by searching for their objects or the functions themselves, rather than switching between keyboard/mouse or memorizing infrequently used keyboard combinations. The best way of getting a feel for this is to use Quicksilver or Everything plugins for a bit and imagine the possibilities for in-app implementation. Office suites are the perfect place to add this into, as they're already pretty heavily keyboard-centric. Thoughts or directions on where I should take this? Thanks, -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
Hi Tom, Tom Davies wrote (04-02-11 16:52) OpenOffice and LibreOffice often create problems for each other when both are installed. Try uninstalling one of them and then reinstall the one you are keeping. Since they are both free uninstalling and reinstalling is relatively trivial. Apparently there is some weird setting in OpenOffice that stops them both being easy to use together. Very friendly that you take trouble to write this mail. Alas it is not that useful. If you would re-read the reply from Sigrid - still at the bottom - you see that there is an answer, which targets the relevant technical details. Better that you let the OP try that first, and not create a misty situation. Even the more so, since your suggestion is based on a strange perception. Problems with OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice installed on one system are seldom. And if there is a problem, there is no evidence at all that it would be caused by OpenOffice.org. Tom, lets say that it is your very helpful inside that makes you send so many mails. But really, it is not necessary to reply to each mail. People will enjoy your assistance so much more if you reply a bit accurate. Thanks, Cor And pls try to learn to reply inline and below te quoted text, snipping irrelevant parts. From: Sigrid Carrerasigrid.carr...@googlemail.com You could also check the properties of the table. To do this, move your cursor into the table and the table toolbar appears. There's an icon called Table properties (a table with a small hammer, the 3rd icon from the right in the second row in my installation). Go to the register Text flow and check, if there is a checkmark for Break. It's the very first entry on this tab. If there is, just remove it and your table should appear again on the previous page when you close the dialog. -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On 4 February 2011 09:36, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: Good morning, Gordon, On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote: But that applies to ALL applications, whether FOSS or proprietary. In my personal experience in large corporations, 75% of MS Office users only use 25% (or less) of the functionality... I absolutely agree with your comment about MS Office users. But in my experience, I would say your observation of 75% of MS Office users only use 25% (or less) of the functionality... might be a bit high. :-) Which part is high -- the percentage of users or the percentage of the available functions? In my experience, I'd say at least 90% of the users use maybe 10% of the functions. When teaching an introductory course to Windoze, I encourage beginners to use WordPad. The vast majority of people don't need anything more. Of course, users are frequently unaware of available functions. That, of course, is what led M$ to eliminate the menu structure and introduce that @*@#$* ribbon. (Personally, I think it was the 'personalised menus' that were more at fault -- what users didn't use didn't appear -- so how were users supposed to find existing functions?) -- T. R. Valentine Your friends will argue with you. Your enemies don't care. 'When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left I buy food and clothes.' -- Erasmus -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
Good afternoon, Mr ZenWiz On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. That was so helpful I just can't describe it. When I read your reply, I was perplexed, and took your comment as a bit less than civil, and did not understand why. But thanks to the post by T. R. Valentine, I know why. I absolutely did *NOT* send a blank post to the mailing list. :-( Somewhere the Dishmail/Gmail system, obviously web based, managed to screw up and I have no way of opening my sent box that will display the email I believed I was sending. Between the two rows of asterisks is a rewritten reply of what I attempted to send. ** I will be happy to end the thread at this point. If you were to split the conversation into two different threads, you run the risk of destroying the continuity of the conversation. I don't mind shortening the signature. Dishmail/Gmail is set to automatically append the signature, so I'll need to remember to manually edit it. And if I forget, please give me a bad time. ** After sending this email, and then giving T. R. Valentine the courtesy of a reply, I have no plans to post anything further in this thread. Ken -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 08:49:30AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: .snip And only Bob Holtzman's reply tweaked my sensibilities, as the saying goes. But I didn't want to fall into the Tom and Dick story line I posted, so I sat back for a couple hours before writing my reply. .snip Glad to see I haven't lost my touch. Actually, several of the things you wrote lit my fuse too, so I guess we're about even. Truce? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:29:47AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: And I prefer HTML. It makes it easier when people send you an email that has inline photos of the grandkid or something else they find interesting. I've used email clients in the past that didn't support HTML. To me, we each have our preferences, which is fine as long as we recognize those preferences, and that neither one is right or wrong. Not quite. http://www.woodgate.org/FAQs/netiquette.html. Including files in any format other than straight ASCII is to be avoided. The use of uuencoded files, zipped files or even HTML files are likely to mean that nobody will read your message. In some groups it will result in the message being rejected. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: way too much material to quote Having a bad day? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Ken Springer snows...@dishmail.net wrote: On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:02 PM, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. That was so helpful I just can't describe it. When I read your reply, I was perplexed, and took your comment as a bit less than civil, and did not understand why. But thanks to the post by T. R. Valentine, I know why. I absolutely did *NOT* send a blank post to the mailing list. :-( Somewhere the Dishmail/Gmail system, obviously web based, managed to screw up and I have no way of opening my sent box that will display the email I believed I was sending. Between the two rows of asterisks is a rewritten reply of what I attempted to send. Okay, I'll buy that. I will be happy to end the thread at this point. If you were to split the conversation into two different threads, you run the risk of destroying the continuity of the conversation. I don't mind shortening the signature. Dishmail/Gmail is set to automatically append the signature, so I'll need to remember to manually edit it. And if I forget, please give me a bad time. It appears that you did - thank you. No further bad time needed. Ciao. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Scott Jones srjone...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. You people are so off topic. Grow up and move on! raspberry -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: [BUG] LO crashes when .doc with Visio drawing is displayed
On 01/31/2011 11:15 AM, NoOp wrote: On 01/31/2011 05:21 AM, Petki wrote: Hi all, I have following document (see attachment) with MS Visio drawing. When I try to open it via LO 3.3, crash occurs. Any advices how to fix it (document was not created by me...)? (FYI, Google Docs also cannot display that drawing, but at leasts it displays blank page instead of crash...) http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n2389386/LO_crash.doc LO_crash.doc Interesting. I can open in LO 3.3 in linux... but the rendering is very odd. It looks as if the cursor strokes were recorded. In OOo 3.3.0 (linux) it opens properly. Screenshots of both: In LibreOffice 3.3.0 linux: http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7118/screenshotlocrashdoclib.png Note: LO 3.3.0 on WinXP the doc doesn't exactly crash LO, instead LO just seems to freeze when attempting to render the doc on the screen. WinXP SP3 1Gb memory allocated in a VMWare virtual machine. Here's a screenshot of LO on WinXP: http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/107/screenshotwinxpvmwarepl.png In OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 linux: http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9499/screenshotlocrashdocope.png Note: I get the same when using - OOo 3.2.1 - Ubuntu/go-oo version - OOo 3.3.0 on WinXP - MS Word 2003 So it looks to be a bug even when it can be opened. Peter, have you opened a bug report on this yet? Do you need help/advise on doing so? Gary -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: the table starts everytime in a new page - after I type the heading for the table
Dear All, thanks for replying to my problem. never expected to have so many thanks for the community, once again. (Every one needs a pat to keep them going, particularly when it is non-commercial). I have even before posting the problem : - have first uninstalled OOO 3.2 (which came along with Ubuntu 10.04) - then installed through synaptic (added the necessary PPA) - no problem in installing LO 3.3 - it is (I feel) loading much faster than OOO 3.2. - also did the unchecking (break) - even before posting. still it persists. I will do them in this weekend - and will post them by monday. Thanks once again. s. sivakumar mumbai india. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/the-table-starts-everytime-in-a-new-page-after-I-type-the-heading-for-the-table-tp2423088p2429551.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***