Re: [libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-05 Thread Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides)
Hi Hirono,

You are right, on reopening saved versions it seems to reset the value
back to default. At least now it does.

If I open LO then change, save and reenter Impress Print Setting in LO
the setting is retained.

If I open LO save a file after previously setting the Impress Print
Setting, the value return to default.

If I reset the value and exit the reenter LO and
  -- open new file, the adjusted setting is retained
  -- open an existing file, the adjusted setting is retained

If I save the file
  -- setting is retained while changed file is open
  -- setting is now reset to default on reopening the file and
 continues to reset the value despite me changing the value.

If I create a new file and start again the value update is sticky until
I reopen a saved document.

*My take on what is happening*

The 'Page options' is being saved to file (or at least attempted to be
saved to file. When you open an existing document it overwrites the
saved data into the configuration file for Impress.

The problem appears to be that the value selected for 'Page options' is
not being set, despite being updated when an existing file is reopened,
or is being stored incorrectly.

You will need to post a bug on the system and get one of the developers
to change this behaviour, to me it does appear to be a BUG.

On 05/08/11 15:34, Hirono Moi wrote:
 Hi Simon,
 
 Thank you very much your reproducing and advice.
 
 I take it from my test that the configuration file is not updated in
 this instance until LO is restarted.
 
 Yes, I know you're right, but,
 After I restarted LO,
 and then I opend FileNameA.odp or FileNameB.odp,
 the value was 'default'.
 
 How about in  your case?
 
 Regards,
 
 
 
 (2011/08/05 11:10), Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides) wrote:
 Hi Hirono,

 I use LO on Ubuntu 10.04.

 I also get the described behaviour but only when I have not restarted LO.

 The first time I opened LO and reproduced your steps it worked exactly
 as you stated.

 I closed LO and opened it again and the 'default' was then Fit to Page

 I take it from my test that the configuration file is not updated in
 this instance until LO is restarted.

 Try changing the value of Tools - Options - Impress - Print - Page
 to Fit to Page then restart LO. What is the value when you restart LO
 Default or Fit to Page?
 
 


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice base - cannot make a convenient form to add data

2011-08-05 Thread 3flight
I'm trying to make a small base with a couple of forms to view and add data.
For instance, I have a table Objects and it has two fields location and
assigned to of type INTEGER, because they are linked to ID fields of
tables locations and people respectively. It is inconvenient to enter
digits in table editor, so I wanted to make a form which will show linked
values instead. Normal thing, just like in MS Access.
I created a from, modified columns location and assigned to to be
comboboxes, and that's it.
1. Can't find where to select which column to use from a linked table. Good
to me is that I have only one column in each of these linked tables. But
there should be an option somewhere, maybe I just can't find it?
2. Now I have location combo showing proper content, while assigned to
does not show anyting. The only reason I can think of is that in linked
table locations the needed field is called location, the same as in main
table. And in second linked table the needed field is called person and
not assigned to. I'll try to rename it to have equal names but that is
somewhat inconvenient. Again this leads to Q1 - how do I select a column,
from which I take linked data?
3. Even though location shows linked data correctly in combobox, when I
select anything I just get a 0 in the field. I really want to keep seeing
linked data and not ID or whatever integer there is. And I don't understand
why it puts 0 whatever I choose in the box.

Pls hlp. =) Thank you!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base / Postgresql support

2011-08-05 Thread ponsiarceds

Walt wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 Anyone know how to get native pgsql support on base - it seems missing
 from the connect to an exsitng database options. I've checked under both
 Linux and Windows.
There was a special driver in a zip file available from the old
openoffice.org site. It was an extension  installed through the
(Tools-)Extension Manager
I've uploaded it to multiupload here: http://www.multiupload.com/LLL32191L0
(postgresql-sdbc-0.7.6b.zip)
I'm afraid I have no idea if it will still work though. Let me check  get
back to you.

Walt wrote:
 
 Also is it possble to mix and match datasources on one base database (some
 local tables + some odbc tables etc)
 
AFAIK there's only one connection string (ODBC, SDBC, JDBC) that can be
specified via the (database properties -connection settings:) Datasource
URL field.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Something strange : settings in Tools - Options - Impress - Print

2011-08-05 Thread Hirono Moi
Hi Simon,

Thank you very much your repeated tests and advice.

I entirely agree with your view.

I would like to know a workaround ofsome kind, if you have any idea.

Regards,

(2011/08/05 15:11), Simon Cropper (The foss Workflow Guides) wrote:
 Hi Hirono,
 
 You are right, on reopening saved versions it seems to reset the value
 back to default. At least now it does.
 
 If I open LO then change, save and reenter Impress Print Setting in LO
 the setting is retained.
 
 If I open LO save a file after previously setting the Impress Print
 Setting, the value return to default.
 
 If I reset the value and exit the reenter LO and
-- open new file, the adjusted setting is retained
-- open an existing file, the adjusted setting is retained
 
 If I save the file
-- setting is retained while changed file is open
-- setting is now reset to default on reopening the file and
   continues to reset the value despite me changing the value.
 
 If I create a new file and start again the value update is sticky until
 I reopen a saved document.
 
 *My take on what is happening*
 
 The 'Page options' is being saved to file (or at least attempted to be
 saved to file. When you open an existing document it overwrites the
 saved data into the configuration file for Impress.
 
 The problem appears to be that the value selected for 'Page options' is
 not being set, despite being updated when an existing file is reopened,
 or is being stored incorrectly.
 
 You will need to post a bug on the system and get one of the developers
 to change this behaviour, to me it does appear to be a BUG.


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[libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.2 Calc - charts don't automatically refresh

2011-08-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

(This happened with the previous release of 3.4 as well)
I add data to the sheet but the chart based on that data doesn't 
automatically reflect the additional data - I have to double-click on 
the data lines in order to refresh the chart.
Am I missing something here? (The data ranges in the chart cover the 
whole amount of data to be entered, so it's not a case of the range not 
covering the data...)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.2 Calc - charts don't automatically refresh

2011-08-05 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hello Gordon, 

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:37:32 +0100
Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

 (This happened with the previous release of 3.4 as well)
 I add data to the sheet but the chart based on that data doesn't 
 automatically reflect the additional data - I have to double-click on 
 the data lines in order to refresh the chart.
 Am I missing something here? (The data ranges in the chart cover the 
 whole amount of data to be entered, so it's not a case of the range not 
 covering the data...)

I'm no Calc expert, but have you by any chance disabled the auto calculate 
feature in Calc? If you can update the chart by pressing F9, this would 
indicate that you might have. So try enabling this feature and see how it goes 
then. 

Sigrid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: looking for help on Base

2011-08-05 Thread Roberto Scotti


Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 09.45 -0700, NoOp ha scritto:
 On 08/04/2011 01:19 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
  the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
  ... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
  employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...
  
  When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
  list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
  includes only:
  JDBC
  JDBC Oracle
  Adabas D
  Foglio elettronico
  dBASE
  Testo
  MySQL
  ODBC
  
  How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
  Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
  Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
  
  
 
 Maybe this will help:
 
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/database/libreoffice-base
 quote
 You can extend the functionality of LibreOffice Base by installing these
 packages:
 
  * unixodbc: ODBC database support
  * libmyodbc | odbc-postgresql | libsqliteodbc | tdsodbc | mdbtools: ODBC
drivers for:
- MySQL
- PostgreSQL
- SQLite
- MS SQL / Sybase SQL
- *.mdb (JET / MS Access)
  * libmysql-java | libpg-java | libjtds-java: JDBC Drivers
for:
- MySQL
- PostgreSQL
- MS SQL Server and Sybase
 
 Check to see if you have those installed.
 
Yes, at least I tried to install mdbtools, the stand-alone viewer is
working:
gmdb2 0.6pre1
GNOME MDB Viewer is a grapical interface to MDB Tools. It lets you view
and export data and schema from MDB files produced by MS Access
97/2000/XP/2003.
What is needed next to have it available in LbreOffice-Base?
Many thanks, rs




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.2 Calc - charts don't automatically refresh

2011-08-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 05/08/2011 08:57, Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hello Gordon,

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:37:32 +0100
Gordon Burgess-Parkergbpli...@gmail.com  wrote:


(This happened with the previous release of 3.4 as well)
I add data to the sheet but the chart based on that data doesn't
automatically reflect the additional data - I have to double-click on
the data lines in order to refresh the chart.
Am I missing something here? (The data ranges in the chart cover the
whole amount of data to be entered, so it's not a case of the range not
covering the data...)

I'm no Calc expert, but have you by any chance disabled the auto calculate 
feature in Calc? If you can update the chart by pressing F9, this would indicate that you 
might have. So try enabling this feature and see how it goes then.

Sigrid



Interesting. Autocalculate is ON, and if I enter data AFTER clicking on 
the charts, then the charts automatically update. It only seems to 
happen on first opening...(the charts are in different sheets to the 
data - would that have a bearing?)


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[libreoffice-users] libreoffice 3.4.2.3 without sane?

2011-08-05 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Hello.

I am a Gentoo user and I just subscribed to this list. Today
libreoffice 3.4.2.3 was added to portage and sane-backends appeared as
a new dependency. From my research I guessed that this is controlled
via the --with-system-sane configure flag, but I tried adding
--without-system-sane to the ebuild, and the configure script still
fails telling me that sane.h wasn't found.

checking for sane/sane.h... no
configure: error: sane not found. install sane

So, is it possible to build libreoffice 3.4.2.3 without installing sane?

Thanks beforehand.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice 3.4.2.3 without sane?

2011-08-05 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Jesús,

This is a good question for the dev-list:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

Regards,
Cor

Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote (05-08-11 11:52)

Hello.

I am a Gentoo user and I just subscribed to this list. Today
libreoffice 3.4.2.3 was added to portage and sane-backends appeared as
a new dependency. From my research I guessed that this is controlled
via the --with-system-sane configure flag, but I tried adding
--without-system-sane to the ebuild, and the configure script still
fails telling me that sane.h wasn't found.

checking for sane/sane.h... no
configure: error: sane not found. install sane

So, is it possible to build libreoffice 3.4.2.3 without installing sane?

Thanks beforehand.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice 3.4.2.3 without sane?

2011-08-05 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
Thank you. I just posted this same question to that list.

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[libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White 
House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive 
[and assistant to Bill Gates].


Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the 
company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House 
as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and 
open source ones.


So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start 
using packages like LibreOffice.


Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man 
in the White House to control the government's computer system and other 
technology to MS's favor.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Onyeibo Oku
Is this for real?

This is terrible news

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From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:39:47 
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White 
House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive 
[and assistant to Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the 
company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House 
as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and 
open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start 
using packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man 
in the White House to control the government's computer system and other 
technology to MS's favor.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I have not been following this thread, but the original question is 
something that happened to me once.


What I did was:
uninstall LibreOffice.
delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete 
LibreOffice's Program Files folder [for Windows].

reinstall LibreOffice

That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my 
system.




I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04?  Unity [default], 
KDE, or the optional GNOME?



I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though.  I like having GNOME as 
my GUI with a lot of added KDE system packages installed.  That way I 
have GNOME GUI with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not 
have or are not fitting my needs.


-

I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error.  
1368 by 768 is the largest and default resolution.  It should be able to 
use the 1024 by 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not.  I 
think since the motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset 
supports 1920 by 1080 and 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup 
resolution to one of those unsupported resolutions for my monitor.  Once 
day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 instead of having 10.04 LTS.



On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot or
multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process usually
gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd
standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a bit
technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated
and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could handle
it tho.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need
recovery

Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
problem.

Thanks to all who shared their opinions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There are other countries in the world and not all of them follow the US 
slavishly.  It's not the government, it's just a government.  


Many other countries push OpenSource or at least non-MS, sometimes just because 
they don't see any need to make a foreign company richer, sometimes to support 
local languages and culture better.  


Brasil is not small and has a huge and specifically LibreOffice community.  
Germany and Italy are also strongly supportive of LibreOffice apparently along 
with France.  Most of Europe has 20% of the market using OpenOffice or 
LibreOffice.  Spanish governments (4/5 of them) put resources into developing 
their own variants of Ubuntu/Debain i think the other went with Arch.  The 
Scientific  Technological Research Council of Turkey develop Pardus which was 
one of the first distros to have LibreOffice by default.  Vietnam and many 
other 
countries are supporting a strong push towards OpenSource.  The One Laptop Per 
Child programme has helped children get a better education and is based on 
OpenSource.  


There is a lot of positive OpenSource action going on around the world which 
might leave corporate America lagging behind!  

Regards from
Tom :)





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Subject: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White House 
Chief 
of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive [and assistant to 
Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the company, 
which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House as a good 
reason 
to keep the government using MS products over free and open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start using 
packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man in the 
White House to control the government's computer system and other technology to 
MS's favor.



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[libreoffice-users] width of com.sun.star.awt.grid.GridColumn

2011-08-05 Thread alex bodnaru

hello friends,

com.sun.star.awt.grid.GridColumn has a width field, but setting it doesn't seem
to have a benefic effect.
what unit does this field have?
how can i convert map appfont (ma) units to this unit?

thanks in advance,
alex

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/04/2011 11:34 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 08/04/2011 01:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There is an extension or add-on for FireFox but i doubt there is an ActiveX for
Internet Explorer.  ActiveX is fairly often used to infect or compromise systems
so it's good to avoid it.

...
Do you *ever* test before or after you make comments like this on this list?


The nasties that can come with ActiveX is a big reason that many people 
moved to Firefox as their default browser over IE.  There are ways to 
help use IE and not have those nasties mess with your system, but it is 
just easier to use Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Sahara, or some other non-IE 
browser on Windows.


I have to check if I have installed that Firefox add-on since my drive 
replacement.  Do not remember installing it, but I installed in the 
early days of LO 3.3.0.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Stan Goodman

On 08/05/2011 02:39 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White
House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive
[and assistant to Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the
company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House
as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and
open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start
using packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man
in the White House to control the government's computer system and other
technology to MS's favor.


The problem is not with the Chief Information Officer, buy with the 
Chief Community Organizer that appointed him knowing that the CIO is a 
MS shill, and with those who elected a know-it-all know-nothing to move 
into the White House.



--
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Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as 
the 
user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a 
look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it.  It effectively 
quarantines your old set-up.  


I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has 
automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't 
handle 
my monitor/graphics-card.  I think your particular issue is that you connect 
your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever.  In my 
case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt.  (My 2nd Crt 
is still quite nice).  


Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously', 
(hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape.  The 3rd alpha 
release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, 
maybe 
wait for beta 2.  


The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros 
again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look.  I might 
even try contacting a few distro hoppers.  I'm not keen to move away from 
Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying.  I might try the 
new 
Zorin.  Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, Mageia, 
openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most.  Mint and Mageia are the 
most interesting and worth trying imo.  

http://distrowatch.com/

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need recovery


I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something 
that happened to me once.

What I did was:
uninstall LibreOffice.
delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's 
Program Files folder [for Windows].
reinstall LibreOffice

That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system.



I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04?  Unity [default], KDE, 
or 
the optional GNOME?


I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though.  I like having GNOME as my GUI 
with a lot of added KDE system packages installed.  That way I have GNOME GUI 
with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not 
fitting my needs.

-

I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error.  1368 by 
768 is the largest and default resolution.  It should be able to use the 1024 
by 
768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not.  I think since the 
motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 
and 
1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported 
resolutions for my monitor.  Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 
instead of having 10.04 LTS.


On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot or
 multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process 
usually
 gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd
 standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a 
bit
 technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too 
complicated
 and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could 
handle
 it tho.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need
 recovery
 
 Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
 Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
 problem.
 
 Thanks to all who shared their opinions.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/05/2011 12:22 AM, planas wrote:

Hi

On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:49 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:


So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English
form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use proper American
spelling our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote colour once
instead of color and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound
[weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did
not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal
car or truck.

So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for Queen and
Country?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently
so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.

LibreOffice's ToolsLanguage SettingsLanguagesLocalized ---  has 14
different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I
can find to install or are in the install .deb files.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.
I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe
someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date
than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's
site has].

Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to
spell was not important.

Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions
- 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French
since they are so different.

20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized
to a country which uses it.


On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling any
word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during his
life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer tho!
lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for
spellchecking


So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a new
thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new
localized [or is it localised] way?

I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first time
I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language involves.
Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different
spellings.

So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English
files.
Should people not use that type?

en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows
analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I
cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be
located, but it is not.

ample/PT
amplification/M
anarchy/3Ww1SM
anastigmatic
Andaman/M
aneroid
Anglican/MS


I found the word
  analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
  analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
  but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for
Oxford English.

Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings that
Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a word
list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor spell
checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to
use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled words
are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not spelled
correctly for your localized version of the language.


On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your thoughts.

On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:

Could someone tell me what it the difference between the standard en_GB
and the OED [Oxford English] version?


Maybe I should clarify my problem: I regularly have to edit articles
for publication in a journal that conforms to Oxford Spelling
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling), which differs on some
points from regular BE spelling, e.g.: only forms in -ize are allowed.
In 

Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
But to be fair on them they do need to push US companies into becoming more 
profitable and MS has not grown as fast as they hoped in certain areas such as 
tablets, netbooks (and even notebooks), mobile devices, smart-phones, servers, 
Cloud, search engine and have lost ground in areas such as web-browsers.  Can 
almost imagine them - Oh no! What to do?? Quick get an MS person into the White 
House.  


Oddly they don't seem to realise that they could make other US companies even 
more profitable by promoting OpenSource and forcing MS to compete more fairly 
on 
grounds of functionality rather than sheer might.  


All just my own opinion of course.  If i get thrown off the list then at least 
it was fun!  

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:26:54
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

On 08/05/2011 02:39 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 
 The new chief information officer for the federal government - White
 House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive
 [and assistant to Bill Gates].
 
 Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the
 company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House
 as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and
 open source ones.
 
 So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start
 using packages like LibreOffice.
 
 Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man
 in the White House to control the government's computer system and other
 technology to MS's favor.

The problem is not with the Chief Information Officer, buy with the Chief 
Community Organizer that appointed him knowing that the CIO is a MS shill, and 
with those who elected a know-it-all know-nothing to move into the White House.


-- Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


How real it is and going to become depends on the new Chief of Technology.

Here is the article about the naming of the new Chief.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/04/technology/white-house-picks-new-information-chief.html?_r=3ref=technology 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/04/technology/white-house-picks-new-information-chief.html?_r=3ref=technology


On 08/05/2011 07:50 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

Is this for real?

This is terrible news

-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

-Original Message-
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 07:39:47
To: LibreO - Users Globalusers@global.libreoffice.org
Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White
House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive
[and assistant to Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the
company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House
as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and
open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start
using packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man
in the White House to control the government's computer system and other
technology to MS's favor.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Ok, so i object to having to type out the whole of though and shorten it to 
tho.  Oddly i like the  extra unnecessary u in colour and things tho 
(oops).  


Shakespeare was only about 400 years ago btw.  21st C - 17th C = 400.  My maths 
was wonky yday.
regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:32:38
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for 
spellchecking

On 08/05/2011 12:22 AM, planas wrote:
 Hi

 On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:49 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions wrote:

 So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English
 form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use proper American
 spelling our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote colour once
 instead of color and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound
 [weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did
 not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal
 car or truck.

 So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for Queen and
 Country?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently
 so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.

 LibreOffice's ToolsLanguage SettingsLanguagesLocalized ---  has 14
 different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I
 can find to install or are in the install .deb files.

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
t
 is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.
 I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe
 someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date
 than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's
 site has].

 Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to
 spell was not important.

 Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions
 - 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French
 since they are so different.

 20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized
 to a country which uses it.


 On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of spelling 
any
 word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings during 
his
 life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer tho!
 lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for
 spellchecking


 So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is a 
new
 thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a new
 localized [or is it localised] way?

 I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the first 
time
 I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language 
involves.
 Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but different
 spellings.

 So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
 Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
 I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different English
 files.
 Should people not use that type?

 en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page shows
 analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file I
 cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be
 located, but it is not.
 
 ample/PT
 amplification/M
 anarchy/3Ww1SM
 anastigmatic
 Andaman/M
 aneroid
 Anglican/MS
 

 I found the word
   analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
   analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
   but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
 So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows for
 Oxford English.

 Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings 
that
 Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
 contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have a 
word
 list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor 
spell
 checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want to
 use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled 
words
 are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
 around it, except edit your word list to remove the 

[libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread rogerio dandrea
new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Sorry, but the only monitor connection that I have is the standard VGA 
cable which is attached to the motherboard.  Plus the Acer monitor uses 
VGA cable as well.  Now my 19 inch flat scree TV can use VGA or HDMI 
cables.  I have a VGA cable plugged into it for working with showing 
stuff from a laptop to the TV for a larger display.


As for CRT, I have two massively have 17 inch ones in the bottom shelf 
dead storage cabinet.  I was thinking about installing 11.04 with one 
of those installed instead of the 18 inch flat screen.


The Unity issue:  well all I have read about 11.04 was that Unity was 
the default GUI, but you could choose to use GNOME after the initial 
install.  It would be nice to have to choose Unity instead of it being 
the default.



On 08/05/2011 08:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as the
user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a
look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it.  It effectively
quarantines your old set-up.


I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has
automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't handle
my monitor/graphics-card.  I think your particular issue is that you connect
your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever.  In my
case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt.  (My 2nd Crt
is still quite nice).


Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously',
(hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape.  The 3rd alpha
release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, maybe
wait for beta 2.


The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros
again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look.  I might
even try contacting a few distro hoppers.  I'm not keen to move away from
Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying.  I might try the new
Zorin.  Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, Mageia,
openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most.  Mint and Mageia are the
most interesting and worth trying imo.

http://distrowatch.com/

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly
need recovery


I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something
that happened to me once.

What I did was:
uninstall LibreOffice.
delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's
Program Files folder [for Windows].
reinstall LibreOffice

That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system.



I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04?  Unity [default], KDE, or
the optional GNOME?


I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though.  I like having GNOME as my GUI
with a lot of added KDE system packages installed.  That way I have GNOME GUI
with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not
fitting my needs.

-

I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error.  1368 by
768 is the largest and default resolution.  It should be able to use the 1024 by
768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not.  I think since the
motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 and
1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported
resolutions for my monitor.  Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04
instead of having 10.04 LTS.


On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot or
multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process
usually
gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd
standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a

bit

technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too

complicated

and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could
handle
it tho.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly
need
recovery

Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install
Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the
problem.

Thanks to all who shared their opinions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
On linux systems it might be easier to install 
mozilla-libreoffice
I'm not sure what to do for Windows or Mac but it was interesting to see that 
there is an ActiveX thing for LibreOffice :)  It's probably safer than most 
ActiveX controls as i would guess that it's written with the usual OpenSource 
regard for safety as higher priority than functionality.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:10:23
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Activex control in LibreOffice 3.4.2?

On 08/04/2011 11:34 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 01:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 There is an extension or add-on for FireFox but i doubt there is an ActiveX 
for
 Internet Explorer.  ActiveX is fairly often used to infect or compromise 
systems
 so it's good to avoid it.
 ...
 Do you *ever* test before or after you make comments like this on this list?

The nasties that can come with ActiveX is a big reason that many people moved 
to 
Firefox as their default browser over IE.  There are ways to help use IE and 
not 
have those nasties mess with your system, but it is just easier to use Firefox, 
Chrome, Opera, Sahara, or some other non-IE browser on Windows.

I have to check if I have installed that Firefox add-on since my drive 
replacement.  Do not remember installing it, but I installed in the early days 
of LO 3.3.0.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:

new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil

498 pages worth of Macros Explained could help a lot of people on 
these lists.


Have downloaded it and exported it as a PDF file.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Tada! :)  Vga strikes again.  It was such a fantastic thing for so many decades 
that they had to create a problem for it with the new-fangled flat-screen tech. 
 


I don't remember being given a choice of DE for 11.04 but switching is so easy 
for me that i might not have noticed. 

Regards from
Tom :)





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Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:55:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly 
need recovery


Sorry, but the only monitor connection that I have is the standard VGA 
cable which is attached to the motherboard.  Plus the Acer monitor uses 
VGA cable as well.  Now my 19 inch flat scree TV can use VGA or HDMI 
cables.  I have a VGA cable plugged into it for working with showing 
stuff from a laptop to the TV for a larger display.

As for CRT, I have two massively have 17 inch ones in the bottom shelf 
dead storage cabinet.  I was thinking about installing 11.04 with one 
of those installed instead of the 18 inch flat screen.

The Unity issue:  well all I have read about 11.04 was that Unity was 
the default GUI, but you could choose to use GNOME after the initial 
install.  It would be nice to have to choose Unity instead of it being 
the default.


On 08/05/2011 08:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as 
the
 user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a
 look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it.  It effectively
 quarantines your old set-up.


 I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has
 automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't 
handle
 my monitor/graphics-card.  I think your particular issue is that you connect
 your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever.  In my
 case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt.  (My 2nd Crt
 is still quite nice).


 Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously',
 (hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape.  The 3rd alpha
 release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, 
maybe
 wait for beta 2.


 The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros
 again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look.  I 
might
 even try contacting a few distro hoppers.  I'm not keen to move away from
 Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying.  I might try the 
new
 Zorin.  Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, 
Mageia,
 openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most.  Mint and Mageia are the
 most interesting and worth trying imo.

 http://distrowatch.com/

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
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 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents 
constantly
 need recovery


 I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something
 that happened to me once.

 What I did was:
 uninstall LibreOffice.
 delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's
 Program Files folder [for Windows].
 reinstall LibreOffice

 That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my 
system.

 

 I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04?  Unity [default], KDE, 
or
 the optional GNOME?


 I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though.  I like having GNOME as my 
GUI
 with a lot of added KDE system packages installed.  That way I have GNOME GUI
 with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not
 fitting my needs.

 -

 I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error.  1368 by
 768 is the largest and default resolution.  It should be able to use the 1024 
by
 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not.  I think since the
 motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 
and
 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported
 resolutions for my monitor.  Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04
 instead of having 10.04 LTS.


 On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick.  Going for a dual-boot 
or
 multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds.  The standard install process
 usually
 gives you the option in the Partitioning Section.  Possibly the 2nd or 3rd
 standard option out of about 4 options on that page.  The 4th option gets a
 bit
 technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too
 complicated
 and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options.  I think you could
 handle
 it tho.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


[libreoffice-users] Problem using a name as Source cell range in a combo box control

2011-08-05 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto

Hello,
I tried to define a combo box in Scalc which take its source cell range from 
a table. When I enter the cell reference directly, it works as expected. I 
defined a name for the table, but when I try to used it instead of the 
direct cell reference, I just get a blank combo box. I tried several syntax 
like 'name',  ='name' but that doen't make any difference. I tried that both 
under version 3.3.3 (on Windows XP Pro 32 bit) and version 3.4.2 (on Windows 
7 64 bit). That doesn't make any difference either.

Is there a way to make that works?
(In fact the original file was made with MS Excel XP)
Thanks in advance,
Jean-Louis


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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Don C. Myers

Well said Stan.

On 08/05/2011 08:26 AM, Stan Goodman wrote:

On 08/05/2011 02:39 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White
House Chief of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive
[and assistant to Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the
company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House
as a good reason to keep the government using MS products over free and
open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start
using packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man
in the White House to control the government's computer system and other
technology to MS's favor.


The problem is not with the Chief Information Officer, buy with the 
Chief Community Organizer that appointed him knowing that the CIO is a 
MS shill, and with those who elected a know-it-all know-nothing to 
move into the White House.





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-05 Thread Ian Whitfield

Hi All

As I reported recently I wrote to a contact I have in regard to this thread.

Part of what I said was .


/*PLEASE DO* follow up on this - I think it is _VERY_ important for many
users and some 'Official' Feedback' is VERY necessary. There are lots of
very important points made in this thread!!! /


He has just replied...


/Thanks for your mail!

The question is what the Steering Committee should do about this. What 
I would recommend is that one of the affected users either writes to 
the Developer Mailing List, or files a bug report.


Is this something that could help?

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This is NOT quite the reply I was hoping for. Is it worth passing this 
onto the Devs Mail List - I have a feeling somebody already did this.


Base is working for me at the moment - sort of!! - but I would LOVE to 
see it sorted out!! I want to try the change to an early version of 
Java to see if that helps me or not at some time.


Until then it looks as if we are all stuck with Base as it is!!

Ian Whitfield


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Removal of unwanted dictionaries

2011-08-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-08-04 5:00 PM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
  Original Message  
 From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:04:42 -0400
 On 2011-08-04 2:11 PM, nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva)
 Can't you just set the Dictionaries item to Not available (which
 will set all subitems to Not available) and then cherry-pick the
 dictionaries you want?

 That is exactly what I do (wasn't very specific though)...

 Does this work for you? I have always done this when installing LO on
 Win 7-64 and Win XP-32, but still have to go back and remove the
 unwanted dictionaries from the extensions sub-directory.

Yes, it works for me... :)

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-05 Thread Tony Royston
Ian,

On behalf of all Base users, thanks for trying!  As you infer, it would have 
been encouraging to receive a more pro-active reply, especially from a Founder 
of TDF (and long-time ex-oOo active member).  Perhaps it's difficult for him to 
say much else, if there are very few Base Developers.  I guess they 'stayed' 
with oOo or have moved on to other things.  It will be interesting to see if 
the oOo version fares any better...but that's another story!

Regards,

Tony Royston.

-Original Message-
From: Ian Whitfield [mailto:whitfi...@telkomsa.net] 
Sent: Friday,05 August, 2011 14:46
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Hi All

As I reported recently I wrote to a contact I have in regard to this thread.

Part of what I said was .

 /*PLEASE DO* follow up on this - I think it is _VERY_ important for many
 users and some 'Official' Feedback' is VERY necessary. There are lots of
 very important points made in this thread!!! /

He has just replied...

 /Thanks for your mail!

 The question is what the Steering Committee should do about this. What 
 I would recommend is that one of the affected users either writes to 
 the Developer Mailing List, or files a bug report.

 Is this something that could help?

 Florian
 -- 
 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
 Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation
 Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108
 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff /

This is NOT quite the reply I was hoping for. Is it worth passing this 
onto the Devs Mail List - I have a feeling somebody already did this.

Base is working for me at the moment - sort of!! - but I would LOVE to 
see it sorted out!! I want to try the change to an early version of 
Java to see if that helps me or not at some time.

Until then it looks as if we are all stuck with Base as it is!!

Ian Whitfield


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

2011-08-05 Thread Don C. Myers
Ian, thank you from me also. When I see the number of people asking 
questions about Base on this forum it seems there is a lot of interest 
in having a database. So far the side by side install of the second, 
older version of Java has been working very well for me.


On 08/05/2011 11:01 AM, Tony Royston wrote:

Ian,

On behalf of all Base users, thanks for trying!  As you infer, it would have 
been encouraging to receive a more pro-active reply, especially from a Founder 
of TDF (and long-time ex-oOo active member).  Perhaps it's difficult for him to 
say much else, if there are very few Base Developers.  I guess they 'stayed' 
with oOo or have moved on to other things.  It will be interesting to see if 
the oOo version fares any better...but that's another story!

Regards,

Tony Royston.

-Original Message-
From: Ian Whitfield [mailto:whitfi...@telkomsa.net]
Sent: Friday,05 August, 2011 14:46
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base record access unacceptably slow

Hi All

As I reported recently I wrote to a contact I have in regard to this thread.

Part of what I said was .


/*PLEASE DO* follow up on this - I think it is _VERY_ important for many
users and some 'Official' Feedback' is VERY necessary. There are lots of
very important points made in this thread!!! /

He has just replied...


/Thanks for your mail!

The question is what the Steering Committee should do about this. What
I would recommend is that one of the affected users either writes to
the Developer Mailing List, or files a bug report.

Is this something that could help?

Florian
--
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Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation
Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108
Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff /

This is NOT quite the reply I was hoping for. Is it worth passing this
onto the Devs Mail List - I have a feeling somebody already did this.

Base is working for me at the moment - sort of!! - but I would LOVE to
see it sorted out!! I want to try the change to an early version of
Java to see if that helps me or not at some time.

Until then it looks as if we are all stuck with Base as it is!!

Ian Whitfield




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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread alex bodnaru
thanks andrew for keeping up this great work.

though a lot has been changed since your first book, would you consider
inserting the new grid control in this new edition?

best regards,
alex

On 08/05/2011 03:49 PM, rogerio dandrea wrote:
 new book

 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

 :0) From Brazil



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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread Tom Cloyd

Thanks, Tom, for this hope-inducing update. Fascinating!

Tom C.

On 08/05/2011 06:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
There are other countries in the world and not all of them follow the US
slavishly.  It's not the government, it's just a government.


Many other countries push OpenSource or at least non-MS, sometimes just because
they don't see any need to make a foreign company richer, sometimes to support
local languages and culture better.


Brasil is not small and has a huge and specifically LibreOffice community.
Germany and Italy are also strongly supportive of LibreOffice apparently along
with France.  Most of Europe has 20% of the market using OpenOffice or
LibreOffice.  Spanish governments (4/5 of them) put resources into developing
their own variants of Ubuntu/Debain i think the other went with Arch.  The
Scientific  Technological Research Council of Turkey develop Pardus which was
one of the first distros to have LibreOffice by default.  Vietnam and many other
countries are supporting a strong push towards OpenSource.  The One Laptop Per
Child programme has helped children get a better education and is based on
OpenSource.


There is a lot of positive OpenSource action going on around the world which
might leave corporate America lagging behind!

Regards from
Tom :)





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Subject: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House


The new chief information officer for the federal government - White House Chief
of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive [and assistant to
Bill Gates].

Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the company,
which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House as a good reason
to keep the government using MS products over free and open source ones.

So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start using
packages like LibreOffice.

Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man in the
White House to control the government's computer system and other technology to
MS's favor.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.2

2011-08-05 Thread thomasjk
I see this same issue with US English. There are no Blue check marks and ABC
in any of the settings. Going back to V3.4.0 solves the problem for me. I
did not try V3.4.1.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread upscope
On Friday, August 05, 2011 05:26:54 AM Stan Goodman wrote:
 On 08/05/2011 02:39 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
  The new chief information officer for the federal government -
  White House Chief of Information Technology - is a former
  Microsoft Executive [and assistant to Bill Gates].
  
  Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in
  the company, which he most likely still has, this new guy in the
  White House as a good reason to keep the government using MS
  products over free and open source ones.
  
  So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and
  start using packages like LibreOffice.
  
  Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have
  a man in the White House to control the government's computer
  system and other technology to MS's favor.
 
 The problem is not with the Chief Information Officer, buy with the
 Chief Community Organizer that appointed him knowing that the CIO is
 a MS shill, and with those who elected a know-it-all know-nothing to
 move into the White House.
+1 our government is looking for big budget cuts. One would be replace 
all the MS stuff with open source software. 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.2

2011-08-05 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 19:06, thomasjk wrote:
 I see this same issue with US English. There are no Blue check marks and ABC
 in any of the settings. Going back to V3.4.0 solves the problem for me. I
 did not try V3.4.1.

Maybe, please check up:
Bug 37195 - Dictionary access lost after LibO upgrade
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195

See also:
[Solved+Issue] 3.4.2 RC1 no dics installed Win7
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101t=42613

mjk

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.2

2011-08-05 Thread thomasjk
Thanks but I'll stick with 3.4.0 until this bug is fixed. I'm a fairly
knowledgeable user of LO and this change is just too much to bother with
right now. I agree with the comment that it should have been fixed before
release. How can they expect average users to make a change like this?

tkenne...@carolina.rr.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread planas
Tom and all

On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 13:08 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

 Hi :)
 There are other countries in the world and not all of them follow the US 
 slavishly.  It's not the government, it's just a government.  
 
 
 Many other countries push OpenSource or at least non-MS, sometimes just 
 because 
 they don't see any need to make a foreign company richer, sometimes to 
 support 
 local languages and culture better.  
 
 
 Brasil is not small and has a huge and specifically LibreOffice community.  
 Germany and Italy are also strongly supportive of LibreOffice apparently 
 along 
 with France.  Most of Europe has 20% of the market using OpenOffice or 
 LibreOffice.  Spanish governments (4/5 of them) put resources into developing 
 their own variants of Ubuntu/Debain i think the other went with Arch.  The 
 Scientific  Technological Research Council of Turkey develop Pardus which 
 was 
 one of the first distros to have LibreOffice by default.  Vietnam and many 
 other 
 countries are supporting a strong push towards OpenSource.  The One Laptop 
 Per 
 Child programme has helped children get a better education and is based on 
 OpenSource.  
 
 
 There is a lot of positive OpenSource action going on around the world which 
 might leave corporate America lagging behind!  
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 
 
 
 
 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
 To: LibreO - Users Global users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 12:39:47
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House
 
 
 The new chief information officer for the federal government - White House 
 Chief 
 of Information Technology - is a former Microsoft Executive [and assistant to 
 Bill Gates].
 
 Since all these big wigs in Microsoft get large blocks of stock in the 
 company, 
 which he most likely still has, this new guy in the White House as a good 
 reason 
 to keep the government using MS products over free and open source ones.
 
 So I say; there goes the government's push to go open source and start using 
 packages like LibreOffice.
 
 Well, MS tries to control the world's computers, and now they have a man in 
 the 
 White House to control the government's computer system and other technology 
 to 
 MS's favor.
 
 
 
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I can see another reason for say Turkey or Russia using FOSS is that
they can create a fork for local specialized needs of major FOSS
project. I expect as more people get comfortable with FOSS solutions we
will see more of this. It has started with Linux but could include LO,
OO, Calligra where a specialized version is developed.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary for spellchecking

2011-08-05 Thread planas
Hi

On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 08:32 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote: 

 On 08/05/2011 12:22 AM, planas wrote:
  Hi
 
  On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:49 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
  Productions wrote:
 
  So, would it be better to use the Oxford English or the British English
  form of spelling?  Here in the USA, if we do not use proper American
  spelling our papers are rejected for sloppiness.  I wrote colour once
  instead of color and the professor was upset with me.  My 20 pound
  [weight] dictionary had the English spelling first, so I used it.  I did
  not know better in those days before computer were smaller than a normal
  car or truck.
 
  So do we use en_GB or en_GB-oed as the default one for Queen and
  Country?  I think use Americans sometimes spell our words differently
  so we can be different after we broke away from British rule.
 
  LibreOffice's ToolsLanguage SettingsLanguagesLocalized ---  has 14
  different listing for English.  More languages than there are versions I
  can find to install or are in the install .deb files.
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt
  is the link to one that has the most up-to-date .dic file I could find.
  I found the file and updated the original .oxt file with it.  Maybe
  someone could do that for en_GB-oed to my it better and more up-to-date
  than from a 2005 .dic file [which the one linked to before from OOo's
  site has].
 
  Actually 500 years ago, most people could not read.  So knowing how to
  spell was not important.
 
  Actually look at the number of different France/French language versions
  - 4 of them - plus a few localized ones that no longer are called French
  since they are so different.
 
  20+ Spanish dictionaries are in the list I have at:
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html#dict .  All localized
  to a country which uses it.
 
 
  On 08/04/2011 05:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  I think 500 years ago there wasn't even an agreed standard way of 
  spelling any
  word.  Shakespeare wrote his own name with many different spellings 
  during his
  life.  I did think that ise had been THE English way for a LOT longer 
  tho!
  lol.  Languages have to evolve and adapt to changing requirements.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
 
  
  From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:55:36
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: how to select extension dictionary 
  for
  spellchecking
 
 
  So you are saying that the British English use of -ise instead of -ize is 
  a new
  thing that is just a new way of spelling words that have been around, a 
  new
  localized [or is it localised] way?
 
  I use American English which spells colour as color.  But this is the 
  first time
  I have heard of the -ise/-ize issue.  Well they always say language 
  involves.
  Take English in Britain about 500 years ago.  The same words, but 
  different
  spellings.
 
  So should I dump en_GB in favor en_GB-oed version?
  Should I not include en_CA or en_GB[oed] in my dictionary list in the USA?
  I know that one .oxt dictionary add-on that includes many different 
  English
  files.
  Should people not use that type?
 
  en_GB-oed .dic file has 46,113 words in its word list.  The Wiki page 
  shows
  analyse in en_GB-oed and analyze in en_US.  Well in the oed .dic file 
  I
  cannot find analyse.  Below is the word list where that word should be
  located, but it is not.
  
  ample/PT
  amplification/M
  anarchy/3Ww1SM
  anastigmatic
  Andaman/M
  aneroid
  Anglican/MS
  
 
  I found the word
analyse in the en_GB .dic file dated 2010-02-15
analyze in the en_CA .dic file dated 2010-02-15
but neither spelling in the en_GB-eod version dated 2005-06-13.
  So the eod version has not kept up with what the Wiki page link shows 
  for
  Oxford English.
 
  Of course, you could always edit a word list and keep only the spellings 
  that
  Oxford English excepts.  As I understand, the complete Oxford dictionary
  contains 20 volumes/books to hold all the words and definitions.  I have 
  a word
  list of over 200,000 words, but would you want to have a word processor 
  spell
  checker dictionary with all those words, or only the ones you really want 
  to
  use?  The more words in the list, the more chances that your misspelled 
  words
  are correct spelling for a different unwanted word.  There is not good way
  around it, except edit your word list to remove the words that are not 
  spelled
  correctly for your localized version of the language.
 
 
  On 08/04/2011 10:18 AM, ron.vandenbranden wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Thanks for your thoughts.
 
  On Thursday 4 August 2011 15:12:21, krackedpress [via Document
  Foundation Mail Archive] wrote:
  Could someone tell me what it the 

Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread toki
On 08/05/2011 05:57 PM, upscope wrote:

 our government is looking for big budget cuts. One would be replace  all the 
 MS stuff with open source software. 

If the united states government, or the government of the united kingdom
ruled today that effective 1 January 2012, only FLOSS may be used by the
government, and closed source, proprietary software was banned, the
budget savings would, at the earliest, be visible in 2016, and probably
not until 2020, or even 2025. This is simply due to the unbreakable
contracts various software vendors have with those governments.
Contracts that requires the vendors to be paid, regardless of whether or
not the product meets the contract specifications, assuming it is
delivered in the first place.

Long term, FLOSS saves money. Short term, it doesn't save money, and can
be described as costing money.

jonathon
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: (help macro base)Open form with a button form another form with filter

2011-08-05 Thread rogerio dandrea
the basetools extension (0.0.5) works in libreoffice 3.4.2 ?



2011/8/4 rogerio dandrea rolemo...@gmail.com

 well now

 with 3.4.2
 ubuntu11.04 64bits
 and use hsql

  now I have error mensage in filter Why?


 2011/7/29 rogerio dandrea rolemo...@gmail.com

 Alex ,
  thank you.
 I will return to the problem when version 3.4.2 is launched (in july)




 2011/7/28 Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com

 Le 28/07/11 22:11, rogerio dandrea a écrit :

 Hi Rogerio,

 
  Sorry if this is a silly question but, how do I switch the focus from
 one
  form to another?
 

 I actually looked this up on the OpenOffice.org forum, but I can't find
 the link to the post anymore. There might also be a bug in LibreOffice
 that prevents the form from reloading. I seem to recall having seen
 something similar somewhere, because the filter.appply = true and
 form.reload used to work with OpenOffice.org.


 Alex





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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I am actively adding content to this release of the book. I am currently 
working through the Calc section. When I finish with that, I will move 
on to the next section, which is not yet in the document. The German 
translation is on chapter 7 I believe.



On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:

new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil



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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 08/05/2011 08:59 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 08/05/2011 08:49 AM, rogerio dandrea wrote:

new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil

498 pages worth of Macros Explained could help a lot of people on 
these lists.


Have downloaded it and exported it as a PDF file.

I usually upload the current PDF version when I upload the ODT version.  
(for what it is worth).


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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
It might happen. I expect that to exist in the context of a Base 
document, however. Currently, OOME does not have BASE coverage. If I 
added it, it would likely include content from say AndrewBase.odt, which 
is rather out of date at this point.


On 08/05/2011 11:37 AM, alex bodnaru wrote:

thanks andrew for keeping up this great work.

though a lot has been changed since your first book, would you consider
inserting the new grid control in this new edition?

best regards,
alex

On 08/05/2011 03:49 PM, rogerio dandrea wrote:

new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Slow Calc Macros

2011-08-05 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 04.08.2011 09:03, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

I did a python macro that adds sheets, renames them and fills in some formula 
in select cells. It also has a portion that deletes the sheets.

I find that the sheet creation runs faster although there's more lines of code 
running. Whereas the sheet removal macro is just 2lines and runs 3-5times 
slower. Both routines use 'FOR' loops (the creating routine even has a nested 
loop).

What could be responsible? Does calc recalculate for each removed sheet? Can 
that feature be toggled off via macro just before the removal loops ...and 
toggled back on?

Thanks in advance :)
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)



Removed sheets may have references, a new sheet can not have any 
references nor is it referenced.


bAC = isAutomaticCalculationEnabled()
doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(False)
do_stuff
doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(bAC)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] password problem

2011-08-05 Thread Bob S
On Thursday 04 August 2011 23:54:24 Bill Gradwohl wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 08:44 PM, Bob Stia wrote:
  I have a document that I have had for years. Time to time I must open it,
  edit it and close it again. It is Libreoffice password protected.  A few
  days ago I opened the fdocument and then after editing closed it agaim.
  The other night I tried to open it again and the password failed.

 Bob

Thanks for the repies, to the three of you. I will answer Bill first. The 
other two suggestions will require some work but I will try them and report 
back.

 Look at what happens carefully. Even experiment on another test doc to
 see a slight difference that may be significant.

 I've experienced password failures on password protected documents part
 way through the loading process after it successfully took my password
 and then manufactured a bogus password failure message a certain
 distance into the loading process.

 The password failure messages are different depending on if you really
 keyed in a wrong password or it pops up a bogus message.

 Create a test document, password protect it and then ATTEMPT to open it
 with a bad password. Is that the password message your real doc is
 getting or is it another one? The other one is a bogus message after the
 file's been corrupted.


OK, as you suggested I created a test document and followed your advice.
The failure messages on both my doc and the terst doc were exactly the same 
and failed immediately. No loading. I used bogey passwords several times on 
the test doc and then used the correct one. It opened prroperly so there was 
no corruption from trying that.

Thanks for trying to help. It is appreciated.

Bob S

 I noticed this on a large spreadsheet that takes quite a while to load.
 It would take my password, start to load, and then fail some seconds
 later on some internal error and puts up a bogus message.

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[libreoffice-users] Need Calc help

2011-08-05 Thread Preston Smith

Hi,

Hopefully someone can help me out.

I maintain in Calc the regional section of a National membership file of 
Alumni. There are about 650 members in my regional Calc file.


Each record is keyed to an unique College number and consists of about 
26 fields of data including First/Last names, address, telephone number, 
etc.  On a monthly basis, the national office sends me a 'pull' in Excel 
format from their national database.  Since changes, additions, and 
deletions are not annotated by National, I have to manually compare each 
record in the latest listing with the appropriate record in my files. As 
you can imagine, doing this manually takes a long time when there are 
about 650 records involved.


Assuming that the Column headers are the same in both files (not 
necessarily in the same order), is there a way that I can compare the 
two files to create a listing by College Number of fields that do not 
agree, and records that have been deleted or added?


I am computer savvy but failed programming miserably so I need the input 
of the many smart people on this list.  I do follow instructions well so 
could be led by the nose to create what is required.


Thank you for your patience and help

Preston



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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread jorge
Thank You Mr. Pitonyak for your Book.



El vie, 05-08-2011 a las 09:49 -0300, rogerio dandrea escribió:
 new book
 
 http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt
 
 :0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work
 
 :0) From Brazil
 

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[libreoffice-users] Printing

2011-08-05 Thread Alaric
Can anyone help with a print problem.  I cannot print landscape. The 
page style says landscape, the printer settings menu says landscape, the 
printer properties menu says landscape and the preview screen says 
landscape but the printer says portrait and prints accordingly.  This is 
specific to libre.  Landscape prints everywhere else including OpenOffice.


	I cannot find anything in the setup which differs from Office.  I use 
Mandriva 10.2 (reluctantly) and have a Brother HL 2040 printer.


	I installed Libre in the hope that it might remove some of the more 
infuruating things in Office but it doesn't, it only adds a few more.


Alaric

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Need Calc help

2011-08-05 Thread jorge
Hi

There are two programs that you can use for check the diferences
between both files:

1) Meld
2) Kdiff3

Both programs are in the Ubuntu repository.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

__


El vie, 05-08-2011 a las 19:50 -0300, Preston Smith escribió:
 Hi,
 
 Hopefully someone can help me out.
 
 I maintain in Calc the regional section of a National membership file of 
 Alumni. There are about 650 members in my regional Calc file.
 
 Each record is keyed to an unique College number and consists of about 
 26 fields of data including First/Last names, address, telephone number, 
 etc.  On a monthly basis, the national office sends me a 'pull' in Excel 
 format from their national database.  Since changes, additions, and 
 deletions are not annotated by National, I have to manually compare each 
 record in the latest listing with the appropriate record in my files. As 
 you can imagine, doing this manually takes a long time when there are 
 about 650 records involved.
 
 Assuming that the Column headers are the same in both files (not 
 necessarily in the same order), is there a way that I can compare the 
 two files to create a listing by College Number of fields that do not 
 agree, and records that have been deleted or added?
 
 I am computer savvy but failed programming miserably so I need the input 
 of the many smart people on this list.  I do follow instructions well so 
 could be led by the nose to create what is required.
 
 Thank you for your patience and help
 
 Preston
 
 
 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: looking for help on Base

2011-08-05 Thread NoOp
On 08/05/2011 01:25 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
 
 
 Il giorno gio, 04/08/2011 alle 09.45 -0700, NoOp ha scritto:
 On 08/04/2011 01:19 AM, Roberto Scotti wrote:
  the site  http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/   states
  ... provides native-support drivers for some of the most-widely
  employed multi-user database engines: MySQL, Adabas D, MS Access...
  
  When I open Base if I choose to connect to an existing database the
  list of available drivers doesn't include MS Access (or JET), it
  includes only:
  JDBC
  JDBC Oracle
  Adabas D
  Foglio elettronico
  dBASE
  Testo
  MySQL
  ODBC
  
  How do you activate the MS Access native-support driver?
  Is a SQLite native-support driver available?
  Many thanks, Roberto Scotti
  
  
 
 Maybe this will help:
 
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/database/libreoffice-base
 quote
 You can extend the functionality of LibreOffice Base by installing these
 packages:
 
  * unixodbc: ODBC database support
  * libmyodbc | odbc-postgresql | libsqliteodbc | tdsodbc | mdbtools: ODBC
drivers for:
- MySQL
- PostgreSQL
- SQLite
- MS SQL / Sybase SQL
- *.mdb (JET / MS Access)
  * libmysql-java | libpg-java | libjtds-java: JDBC Drivers
for:
- MySQL
- PostgreSQL
- MS SQL Server and Sybase
 
 Check to see if you have those installed.
 
 Yes, at least I tried to install mdbtools, the stand-alone viewer is
 working:
 gmdb2 0.6pre1
 GNOME MDB Viewer is a grapical interface to MDB Tools. It lets you view
 and export data and schema from MDB files produced by MS Access
 97/2000/XP/2003.
 What is needed next to have it available in LbreOffice-Base?
 Many thanks, rs

It appears to still have issues. I'm getting this error:


[unixODBC][Driver Manager]Driver's SQLAllocHandle on SQL_HANDLE_HENV failed

I'll post back when I get it figured out.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] There goes Open-Source in the White House

2011-08-05 Thread planas
On Fri, 2011-08-05 at 20:53 +, toki wrote: 

 On 08/05/2011 05:57 PM, upscope wrote:
 
  our government is looking for big budget cuts. One would be replace  all 
  the MS stuff with open source software. 
 
 If the united states government, or the government of the united kingdom
 ruled today that effective 1 January 2012, only FLOSS may be used by the
 government, and closed source, proprietary software was banned, the
 budget savings would, at the earliest, be visible in 2016, and probably
 not until 2020, or even 2025. This is simply due to the unbreakable
 contracts various software vendors have with those governments.
 Contracts that requires the vendors to be paid, regardless of whether or
 not the product meets the contract specifications, assuming it is
 delivered in the first place.
 
 Long term, FLOSS saves money. Short term, it doesn't save money, and can
 be described as costing money.
 
 jonathon
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Actually changing to another application/OS, etc will require a learning
curve at the beginning. The advantage that FOSS has is the primary cost
to using is the learning curve in most cases. I think often the actual
costs of switching forget if I switched from LO to KOffice I have a
learning curve, I do not know KOffice so I need to learn its quirks to
become proficient. If a purchase is involved it just adds to the cost.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Need Calc help

2011-08-05 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 06.08.2011 00:50, Preston Smith wrote:

Hi,

Hopefully someone can help me out.

I maintain in Calc the regional section of a National membership file of
Alumni. There are about 650 members in my regional Calc file.

Each record is keyed to an unique College number and consists of about


Calc is a calculator which may be misused as a database to some extend.

Your terminology describes a relational database. Deriving lists from 
other lists referring to unique records with keys and indices has always 
been the most natural thing to do in relational databases.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Slow Calc Macros

2011-08-05 Thread twohot
On 05/08/2011, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
 Am 04.08.2011 09:03, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
 I did a python macro that adds sheets, renames them and fills in some
 formula in select cells. It also has a portion that deletes the sheets.

 I find that the sheet creation runs faster although there's more lines of
 code running. Whereas the sheet removal macro is just 2lines and runs
 3-5times slower. Both routines use 'FOR' loops (the creating routine even
 has a nested loop).

 What could be responsible? Does calc recalculate for each removed sheet?
 Can that feature be toggled off via macro just before the removal loops
 ...and toggled back on?

 Thanks in advance :)
 -
 from twohot@device.mobile :)


 Removed sheets may have references, a new sheet can not have any
 references nor is it referenced.

 bAC = isAutomaticCalculationEnabled()
 doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(False)
 do_stuff
 doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(bAC)


Thanks Andreas,

I've done that but the problem persists.  I also made another
observation. One of the reserved sheets have formulas spanning about
10columns by 1750rows (some of them having up to 4-6levels of nested
'IF's with conditional formats). When I remove that sheet, the macro
executes instantly.

What I don't understand is why Calc still computes that sheet while
deleting other sheets. The macro makes no reference to it and it
doesn't reference the deleted sheets.  The 'culprit' sheet uses named
cell refs but all within itself except one cell that references a
cache sheet which never gets deleted. More baffling is that it happens
with AutomaticCalculation set to False.

I wonder if watching the huge range with a  listener will produce
better performance results.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] new book

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


Your very welcome!

On 08/05/2011 09:22 PM, jorge wrote:

Thank You Mr. Pitonyak for your Book.



El vie, 05-08-2011 a las 09:49 -0300, rogerio dandrea escribió:

new book

http://www.pitonyak.org/OOME_3_0.odt

:0)   thanks Pitonyak  for the excellent work

:0) From Brazil



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[libreoffice-users] how to have output in table from calc data?

2011-08-05 Thread soumalya ray
hi,
i searched for this but since i am totally new to calc i could not even
understand what to search for.
i have calc sheet named students demography with the
name,age,gender,wt,height,BMI,sponsored candidate or not etc.now i need to
make tables for comparing the  data.say the row header contains *BMI 30 
BMI 30* and the column of the table contains *male  female*.
what is the way to have this output from the calc data?
@tomdavies i am attaching a proforma of the calc sheet and the expected
output.
any help will be highly appreciated.thanks in advance


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Slow Calc Macros

2011-08-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

On 08/06/2011 01:14 AM, twohot wrote:

On 05/08/2011, Andreas Sägerville...@t-online.de  wrote:

Am 04.08.2011 09:03, Onyeibo Oku wrote:

I did a python macro that adds sheets, renames them and fills in some
formula in select cells. It also has a portion that deletes the sheets.

I find that the sheet creation runs faster although there's more lines of
code running. Whereas the sheet removal macro is just 2lines and runs
3-5times slower. Both routines use 'FOR' loops (the creating routine even
has a nested loop).

What could be responsible? Does calc recalculate for each removed sheet?
Can that feature be toggled off via macro just before the removal loops
...and toggled back on?

Thanks in advance :)
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)


Removed sheets may have references, a new sheet can not have any
references nor is it referenced.

bAC = isAutomaticCalculationEnabled()
doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(False)
do_stuff
doc.enableAutomaticCalculation(bAC)


Thanks Andreas,

I've done that but the problem persists.  I also made another
observation. One of the reserved sheets have formulas spanning about
10columns by 1750rows (some of them having up to 4-6levels of nested
'IF's with conditional formats). When I remove that sheet, the macro
executes instantly.

What I don't understand is why Calc still computes that sheet while
deleting other sheets. The macro makes no reference to it and it
doesn't reference the deleted sheets.  The 'culprit' sheet uses named
cell refs but all within itself except one cell that references a
cache sheet which never gets deleted. More baffling is that it happens
with AutomaticCalculation set to False.

I wonder if watching the huge range with a  listener will produce
better performance results.


Perhaps you can also add

doc.lockControllers()

do something

doc.unlockControllers()



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