Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it depends on how you educate new users. If we continue to be rude demand that new new users obey 1 certain way of doing things before we even consider helping them then i think that is unlikely to enamour people. Perhaps when people ask questions we could just start with the

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 09:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it depends on how you educate new users. If we continue to be rude demand that new new users obey 1 certain way of doing things before we even consider helping them then i think that is unlikely to enamour people. Perhaps when

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Windows just seems to do things like this occasionally. It might have been triggered by OOo (or LO) but usually this sort of thing 'just happens' or is done by antivirus software. People don't seem to realise how flaky Windows is until they use linux or have had to maintain a lot of

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing downloaded LO and removing downloaded OO

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Yes, they do usually co-exist quite well but IF you start running into strange small problems THEN un-install one of them. Mostly it is only when OOo has it's QuickLauncher active as this sometimes prevents LO from opening properly. There might be other issues but they are rare

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Tom Davies wrote (16-02-11 09:38) I think it depends on how you educate new users. Indeed. Showing them how handy correct quoting and replying is. Nearly all people can understand that. Cor -- - giving openoffice.org its foundation :: The Document Foundation - -- Unsubscribe

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sadly we have to deal with the world as it is rather than the way we would like it to be. Far more people use the wonderful MicroSoft products such as Outlook than use all the alternatives added together. Please can we try to be less unfriendly to people that are new in here? Top

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-16 Thread plino
Yes, that does work. But I was looking for a solution that didn't involve manually downloading, unpackaging, etc... In theory, adding the PPA options would not only install the current version but also allow updates when available. What puzzles me is that unless Hit means something different,

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Two possibilities spring to mind but i'm not sure how valid they are. 1. I think the layer of the images can be 'moved' forwards and back so. If the larger image gets selected then find the Graphics/frames toolbar. At the end is an anchor but just before that are 2 icons for

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 14:51, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at the

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk
W dniu 11-02-16 14:51, TVCSF Chair pisze: Some people obviously prefer to have comments at the bottom, good on them, it would be a very boring world if we all liked the same things. But everyone read texts from top to bottom. From primary school to last days. Specjally with latin letters,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Luuk
On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15 +0100 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote: I just ran into a scary situation. I already had LO 3.3 installed on a Win2K system and working great. That system also had OOo

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?

2011-02-16 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Jacob, Jacob Valdez wrote (16-02-11 14:31) what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I am doing this in Writer. If the larger image is selected, hit Tab (or Shft-Tab) to select 'the next' (previous) image, which might well be the smaller

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info and background so that you can choose to try 1 sometime. SliTaz would be the fastest to try but Ubuntu is more useful for general use. Trinity is only useful as a rescue, recovery or fix-it Cd and is rarely

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Jean-Francois Nifenecker
Hello Dave, Le 16/02/2011 12:44, Tom Davies a écrit : Sadly we have to deal with the world as it is rather than the way we would like it to be. Sure. Does this mean we won't try to educate them? Far more people use the wonderful MicroSoft products such as Outlook than use all the

Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on the stable version and the update was automatic. All the extensions have been preserved and an icon LibreOffice was installed

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-14 11:33 AM, plino wrote: There is indeed a bug (or at least a different behaviour from MS Office and OOo) with .pps files If a user double clicks or opens with a pps file with MS Powerpoint or LO Impress it is supposed to autostart the presentation. However if you open

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-15 12:38 PM, Tom Davies wrote: The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office users? Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users? You don't have to alienate them... just some gentle prodding in the beginning is enough for most people,

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-16 8:51 AM, TVCSF Chair wrote: I could not agree more. I have been using OOo and Thunderbird for several years now and try to get the people I work around to use free rather than MS software. It is a really hard uphill struggle. But I would say that I always have my comments at

[libreoffice-users] Re: activated quickstarter on ubuntu

2011-02-16 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 11:43 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 8:50 AM, jcg jc...@free.fr wrote: Hi, When the quickstarter of libreOffice is activated it prevents the shutdown of ubuntu. this is also true for ooo and it's a well known reported bug

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image placed on a large image?

2011-02-16 Thread Jacob Valdez
On 16/2/2011 22:13, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Jacob, Jacob Valdez wrote (16-02-11 14:31) what is the trick to select a small image which has been placed on top of a larger image? I am doing this in Writer. If the larger image is selected, hit Tab (or Shft-Tab) to select 'the next' (previous)

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-16 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 11:46 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:07 PM, plino pedl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm an advanced Windows user but absolute Linux newbie. Not uncommmon. : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):

2011-02-16 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-02-16 3:05 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on the stable version and the update was automatic. All the extensions have been

Re: [libreoffice-users] First impressions of LibreOffice 3.3.1 RC1 (Debian amd64 squeeze):

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2011-02-16 3:05 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-02-12 10:11 PM, Alan Shore wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Luiz Oliveira wrote: Icons are beautiful even as said Florian on twitter. I installed it on

[libreoffice-users] Re: Open pps as ppt

2011-02-16 Thread plino
I did try and the result is the same (starts Slideshow). In any case even if that did work it would be a workaround, not the expected action ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Open-pps-as-ppt-tp2457168p2513898.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive

[libreoffice-users] Re: top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread NoOp
On 02/15/2011 07:13 AM, Luuk wrote: Hi, When replying to a message on this list, What is the best method when talking abot quoting? Bottom quoting is what i like because it preserves the reading order of the story. ... Bottom posting (with appropriate snipping/intersperse etc) would be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT) Tom, I didn't mean I would try them all, just consider what would be the best for me. Thanks. Cliff Hi :) Lol, i didn't mean you have to try them all. That's why i gave summary info and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc print dialogue in Greek has fewer options

2011-02-16 Thread Boletis Giorgos
I can confirm this problem. It is very annoying. Please fix it ASAP. Thanks in advance, George -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Cliff Scott ke6...@qsl.net wrote: ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:03 + (GMT) Really? You had to repost the entire conversation, which is already preserved indelibly in the archive? A little context is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
I tired a PPA several times with Ubuntu 9.x and 10.04. It failed have the time I tried to install anything via PPA. So I do not use it. I think we need to make sure that the people who are Linux users have clear options fir installing via PPA and through the standard web site download and

[libreoffice-users] FEATURE REQUEST: CALC -- Repeating a Table Header on a New Page

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Cropper
Hi, Writer has the ability so define a number of rows at the top of a table that will repeat if the table extends over the page. http://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Repeating_a_Table_Header_on_a_New_Page This sort of functionality would be great in Calc. At present it is necessary to

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:29:17PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, i wasn't saying that anyone was deliberately unfriendly but i think we need to have better ways of dealing with top-posters because we often give an appearance of rudeness. Check this site:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Missing MSVCR90.dll

2011-02-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:12:07 +0100 On 16-02-11 14:43, Cliff Scott wrote: ** Reply to message from Luuk luu...@gmail.com on Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:32:15 +0100 On 16-02-11 04:23, Cliff Scott wrote: I just ran into a scary situation. I

Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: Check this site: http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html especially the part about curt answers. I have often practiced exactly that sort of discussion - but usually on the technical users' lists. If we want

[libreoffice-users] Hardly any movement on the OOo version of this list

2011-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
Well I have been seeing less and less emails on the OOo users email list since LibreOffice 3.3 came out. I use to see 30, 40, and even 50 emails per day coming from that list to my email account. Now it is very much less. Today there were less than 10 for the last 24 hour period. I hope that

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing LibreOffice under Ubuntu 9.10 aka Karmic

2011-02-16 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
On 02/16/2011 08:49 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: I tired a PPA several times with Ubuntu 9.x and 10.04. It failed have the time I tried to install anything via PPA. So I do not use it. Gary

[libreoffice-users] default setup

2011-02-16 Thread Dwayne Barber
how can I set Libre as the default program to open power point email messages? dwa...@sasktel.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***

[libreoffice-users] Re: Hardly any movement on the OOo version of this list

2011-02-16 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011/02/16 8:02 PM webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Well I have been seeing less and less emails on the OOo users email list since LibreOffice 3.3 came out. I use to see 30, 40, and even 50 emails per day coming from that list to my email account. That is a gross

Re: [libreoffice-users] default setup

2011-02-16 Thread MR ZenWiz
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Dwayne Barber dwa...@sasktel.net wrote: how can I set Libre as the default program to open power point email messages? That would depend a lot on what you did not tell us: which OS? What window manager? What email client? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to

[libreoffice-users] QUESTION: Base and recognised 'xbase' file formats

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Cropper
Hi, I am trying to find a list of file formats recognised by 'Base'. I have opened Dbase III files with Calc and it allows me to delete fields and edit data OK, without corrupting the file (although it did not retain the code page flag). If I try and open a Visual Foxpro table Calc baulks

[libreoffice-users] QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Cropper
Hi, I am regularly getting a dialog box stating that one of the LibreOffice Documents I am working on needs to be recovered. This happens despite... 1. The document actually saving and libreoffice closing without any errors. 2. Quite regularly -- 5-10 times a day. I have searched around and

[libreoffice-users] Re: How to select a small image placed on a large image?

2011-02-16 Thread Jacob Valdez
On 16/2/2011 22:52, Tom Davies wrote: Brilliant! That is much more elegant :) Regards from Tom :) From: Cor Nouwsoo...@nouenoff.nl To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 16 February, 2011 15:13:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] How to select a small image

[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery

2011-02-16 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/02/11 05:38, Simon Cropper a écrit : Hi Simon, I am regularly getting a dialog box stating that one of the LibreOffice Documents I am working on needs to be recovered. I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves