Re: [libreoffice-users] java error

2013-01-23 Thread Paolo Debortoli

Il 23/01/2013 07:55, Gabriel Risterucci ha scritto:

This is a dump file, made when the JVM crash.

If you have regular crash, it can be helpful to find the cause. If you 
found only one, it mean only one crash, so it's probably not a big 
problem.


To answer your question, it's complicated to tell who is at fault for 
this one: it seem that a call to getenv() caused a segfault, which 
seems odd. Only cause I can see for this is calling getenv() with a 
NULL value, which would be quite hard from a Java program since the 
call should be wrapped by the JVM, but it's not impossible either.




thanks.  yes, I found it only once till now.  soffice.bin sometimes 
shows some strange behaviour...  I will see if i find other similar errors.



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hi.  i have found (ubuntu with libreoffice 4.0) a file named
'hs_err_pid11845.log'  saying:


A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x7f5a779caf5c, pid=11845,
tid=140025396197120
#
# JRE version: 7.0_09-b30
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (23.2-b09 mixed mode
linux-amd64 compressed oops)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x3af5c]  getenv+0x9c
#
# Failed to write core dump. Core dumps have been disabled. To
enable core dumping, try ulimit -c unlimited before starting
Java again

.

Dynamic libraries:
0040-00401000 r-xp  08:05 41859
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice.bin
0060-00601000 rw-p  08:05 41859
/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice.bin

etc...
etc...

is it a problem with java or with LO ?

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[libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure

2013-01-23 Thread e-letter
Readers,

Despite the opinion of the original poster
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38113), the loss in
information is not the fault of LO, but m$, who claim not to support
such compatibility
(http://office.microsoft.com/en-za/excel-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-spreadsheet-ods-format-and-the-excel-xlsx-format-HA010355787.aspx).

In the differences web page published by m$, it is also claimed that
formulas are supported.

When a spreadsheet was created in LO (of course to the native ods
format, because we are not using LO as a free m$ clone and saving
documents to m$ formats, but instead using ods to promote odf, aren't
we??? ;) ), after opening in m$ excel 2010 (yes, m$ can open ods
spreadsheets, so use that format please!!!) , the formulas were lost,
leaving only the result values in the spreadsheet cells.

Instead of reporting another erroneous LO bug, does someone know how
to forward this error with m4 excel 2010 to m$ bug reporting service?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure

2013-01-23 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi e-letter,

e-letter schrieb:

Readers,

Despite the opinion of the original poster
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38113), the loss in
information is not the fault of LO, but m$, who claim not to support
such compatibility
(http://office.microsoft.com/en-za/excel-help/differences-between-the-opendocument-spreadsheet-ods-format-and-the-excel-xlsx-format-HA010355787.aspx).

In the differences web page published by m$, it is also claimed that
formulas are supported.

When a spreadsheet was created in LO (of course to the native ods
format, because we are not using LO as a free m$ clone and saving
documents to m$ formats, but instead using ods to promote odf, aren't
we??? ;) ), after opening in m$ excel 2010 (yes, m$ can open ods
spreadsheets, so use that format please!!!) , the formulas were lost,
leaving only the result values in the spreadsheet cells.


LO saves to ODF1.2, but Excel 2010 does not claim to support that 
version, but only supports ODF1.1.
Excel 2010 does not claim to support OpenFormula, but supports only its 
own formula namespace. So it is not a bug in Excel 2010 but a missing 
feature. Showing the result is better than LO does. LO shows an error 
message when getting an unknown function.


So there is no need to tell Microsoft a bug.



Instead of reporting another erroneous LO bug, does someone know how
to forward this error with m4 excel 2010 to m$ bug reporting service?


Register for the trial of Excel 2013. It has an icon to report bugs. But 
be aware, that Excel 2013 supports ODF1.2. If you find, that a document, 
that has been generated by LO and which has no foreign elements 
(elements which are not defined in ODF1.2 but are in the OpenOffice.org 
or LibreOffice namespace) is not treated correctly in Excel 2013, than 
sent a bug report via this icon.


Kind regards
Regina



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[libreoffice-users] [Solved] Re: Keyboard Shortcuts for Buttons in Base

2013-01-23 Thread Marion Noel Lodge
Hi Tom  Drew,

Thanks for your replies.  I've been on holiday for a week, but prior to
that I came up with a work around that sort of worked, but was pretty
clunky!

Thanks Drew for letting me know about using the tilde - it was exactly what
I was looking for. (Although for a start I thought it wasn't working - the
underlined letter shows up at run time but not in design mode!)

Thanks again,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] First occurrence of a negative number in a column

2013-01-23 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 23.01.2013 14:32, skreiv Brian Barker:

At 13:44 23/01/2013 +0100, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:

Den 23.01.2013 07:29, skreiv Brian Barker:

At 22:57 22/01/2013 +0100, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
Is there any way to find the first occurrence of a number less (or 
greater) than a given number in an unsorted array or a column?
Example: A1:A31 contains a list of temperatures a given month. I 
would like to find the first day the temperature is below 0 degrees 
(metric).


What happens if there is no day in the month when the temperature 
was negative?  Let's say you want the value zero for the resulting 
day number in this case.


This is a little messy, but it works:

o In B1, enter =A10 and fill it down the column to B31. This 
generates TRUE for your negative values and FALSE otherwise.


o In your result cell, enter =N(MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0)) .  The MATCH() 
function searches for the first TRUE value in the column B values 
and returns the relative position in the array of the first match.  
(Note that this is not necessarily the row number, though will be in 
your example.)  This would return the #N/A error if there is no 
negative temperature; the N() function makes no change to real dates 
but converts this error to zero.


Alas the N() function does not works as supposed. It returns #N/A 
if there are no numbers below zero. I have to figure out a solution.


Oh dear: sorry.  It indeed appears that the behaviour of N() was 
changed (between versions 3.5. and 3.6) and it no longer works as I'd 
imagined.  So you'll need something (even messier) such as

 =IF(ISERROR(MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0));0;MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0))
instead.
Thanks. I think this will help me out. Although I would have preferred a 
simpler version :-)


I am new to LibreOffice.
I do have a working program calculating meteorological statistics 
written in a Pascal variant many years ago. But rewriting it in Calc 4.0 
just to learn a bit about this program too.

Kolbjoern


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker



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[libreoffice-users] Reconnaissance vocale

2013-01-23 Thread Henry SCHOORENS
Bonjour,

Je suis surpris de ne pas pouvoir utiliser la reconnaissance vocale de
Windows 7 avec Writer alors que cela fonctione avec Wordpad.

J'ai essayé de choisir les enregistrements .odt, .doc (2003), et .rtf
rien n'y fait.

Merci pour votre aide
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RE: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure

2013-01-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ODF 1.0/1.1 did not specify a standard for spreadsheet formulas.  Formulas were 
left implementation-specific.  Microsoft did not support the 
OpenOffice.org-specific formulas.  Instead, they used Excel-specific formulas 
in ODF 1.1. On input of a not-supported formula expression, Excel in Office 
2007 and 2010 drops the formula and preserves the last-calculated value.  
Whether a wise choice or not, that is what's done.

As Regina says, Office 2013 supports ODF 1.2, including its OpenFormula 
specification.  OpenFormula is also used by current implementations of 
LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice when their documents are saved as ODF 1.2, so 
there is interoperability of formulas shared between ODF 1.2 implementing 
software.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 05:20
To: LibreOffice
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour 
failure

e-letter wrote:
 after opening in m$ excel 2010 (yes, m$ can open ods
 spreadsheets, so use that format please!!!) , the formulas were lost,
 leaving only the result values in the spreadsheet cells.

 Instead of reporting another erroneous LO bug, does someone know how
 to forward this error with m4 excel 2010 to m$ bug reporting service?

That is a well known feature of MS Office.  Excel would replace 
formulas with calculated values.  For some reason, MS thought that was 
appropriate, even though no other spreadsheet app does that. This was 
back in the days when MS was ramming their OOXML standard through ISO.

I believe, though don't know, that this has been corrected in later 
versions of MS Office.  This is one bug that can be laid squarely at the 
feet of MS and one might even suspect it was deliberate.

Bottom line, there's nothing for LO to fix.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reconnaissance vocale

2013-01-23 Thread Sophie Gautier
Bonjour Henry, all,

I'm redirecting Henry on the FR user list.
On 23/01/2013 16:43, Henry SCHOORENS wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
 Je suis surpris de ne pas pouvoir utiliser la reconnaissance vocale de
 Windows 7 avec Writer alors que cela fonctione avec Wordpad.
 
 J'ai essayé de choisir les enregistrements .odt, .doc (2003), et .rtf
 rien n'y fait.

Vous avez posté sur une liste dont la langue est l'anglais. Pour obtenir
de l'aide de la communauté des utilisateurs francophones, vous pouvez
vous inscrire sur la liste ou utiliser Nabble.
Toutes les instructions sont données ici :
http://fr.libreoffice.org/forums/
Merci également d'indiquer la version de LibreOffice que vous utilisez.

Bien cordialement
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Re: [libreoffice-users] First occurrence of a negative number in a column

2013-01-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  
Working out the first day temperatures plummeted below zero here was the only 
day this year that i got a chance to sleep outdoors.  I completely missed all 
of the long hot summer due to moving.  I got a bit of a surprise when i poked 
my head out of ny bivvie and saw the landscape covered in frost!
Regards from 
Tom :)






 From: Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 15:16
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] First occurrence of a negative number in a 
column
 
Den 23.01.2013 14:32, skreiv Brian Barker:
 At 13:44 23/01/2013 +0100, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
 Den 23.01.2013 07:29, skreiv Brian Barker:
 At 22:57 22/01/2013 +0100, Kolbjørn Stuestøl wrote:
 Is there any way to find the first occurrence of a number less (or 
 greater) than a given number in an unsorted array or a column?
 Example: A1:A31 contains a list of temperatures a given month. I would 
 like to find the first day the temperature is below 0 degrees (metric).
 
 What happens if there is no day in the month when the temperature was 
 negative?  Let's say you want the value zero for the resulting day number 
 in this case.
 
 This is a little messy, but it works:
 
 o In B1, enter =A10 and fill it down the column to B31. This generates 
 TRUE for your negative values and FALSE otherwise.
 
 o In your result cell, enter =N(MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0)) .  The MATCH() 
 function searches for the first TRUE value in the column B values and 
 returns the relative position in the array of the first match.  (Note that 
 this is not necessarily the row number, though will be in your example.)  
 This would return the #N/A error if there is no negative temperature; the 
 N() function makes no change to real dates but converts this error to zero.
 
 Alas the N() function does not works as supposed. It returns #N/A if 
 there are no numbers below zero. I have to figure out a solution.
 
 Oh dear: sorry.  It indeed appears that the behaviour of N() was changed 
 (between versions 3.5. and 3.6) and it no longer works as I'd imagined.  So 
 you'll need something (even messier) such as
  =IF(ISERROR(MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0));0;MATCH(TRUE;B1:B31;0))
 instead.
Thanks. I think this will help me out. Although I would have preferred a 
simpler version :-)

I am new to LibreOffice.
I do have a working program calculating meteorological statistics written in a 
Pascal variant many years ago. But rewriting it in Calc 4.0 just to learn a 
bit about this program too.
Kolbjoern
 
 I trust this helps.
 
 Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.6.4 Romanian installer translation is HORRIBLY broken

2013-01-23 Thread zugu
Hi,

I have recently tried to install LibreOffice 3.6.4 on my Windows 7 PC, and
since my system locale is set to Romanian, the LibreOffice .msi installer
also defaulted to Romanian as the installation language.

As a native Romanian speaker, I can vouch that the translation job is so
extremely poor that I couldn't go forward with the installation, since I
wasn't sure what features I was installing. I do not remember this happening
before 3.6.

I am reporting this for the LibreOffice installer only, since I have no idea
if and how broken the LibreOffice translation is. I changed my system locale
to English so that I could install the LibreOffice package.

I have never, ever seen an English to Romanian translation so utterly
broken. I know this is a volunteer-run project, but such oversights are
absolutely inexcusable in a project so big as this. Please fix this as soon
as possible, because it's embarrassing and reeks of lack of professionalism.
At least revert to some older version, or have some competent Romanian
people take a look at the translation before releasing it.

Thank you.



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[libreoffice-users] Base Query Sort and Reports

2013-01-23 Thread capemayal
LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 
Build ID: 350m1(Build:2)

I have created a query from one table.  In the query design grid I sort,
ascending, on a 'name' field.

The query works as expected with results sorted on the 'name' field.

When creating a report, using the wizard, with the query as the source, no
matter what I do the query sort does not carry over to the report.

It appears that no matter what field the query is sorted on, the report
always sorts via the ID field, which is also the primary key.

I have tried using the query sort, then using the same field in the report's
sort option;  I've tried using the report control to change SQL Command as
source to the query, and order by 'name' in the report control.

All of this makes no change.  The report does not sort the way the query is
made.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.



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[libreoffice-users] Now using LibreOffice: Need help with files created in OpenOffice...

2013-01-23 Thread John Bentham

Hello,

I recently upgraded my OS from Kubuntu 8.04 with OpenOffice 2.4 to 
Kubuntu 12.04 with LibreOffice.


Unfortunately, when I open a file in LibreOffice that was created in 
OpenOffice, the text on one page now flows over to a second page.


My laptop has LibreOffice, and I compared all line spacing, margin 
settings. etc. to the same document on another desktop that still has 
OpenOffice 2.4 installed.All settings look identical.  In fact, I am 
comparing the same document using a flash drive to go between systems.


Has anyone had a similar problem?How do I resolve this without 
reformatting the entire document?


I'll be happy to send screen shots, if that will help.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Query Sort and Reports

2013-01-23 Thread frofa
There was a bug in LO 3.5.x versions discussed at the end of  this post
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Base-and-new-Report-Builder-in-3-5-td3817159i20.html#a3961330
  
which might be relevant to you. I seem to recall any query you use in a
report is not automatically updated when you edit/amend the corresponding
query via the LO query list, so you have to manually 'paste' any changed
query code into the mentioned COMMAND control of the report. Maybe that's
the reason for your problem.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Now using LibreOffice: Need help with files created in OpenOffice...

2013-01-23 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 01/23/2013 06:26 PM, John Bentham wrote:

Hello,

I recently upgraded my OS from Kubuntu 8.04 with OpenOffice 2.4 to 
Kubuntu 12.04 with LibreOffice.


Unfortunately, when I open a file in LibreOffice that was created in 
OpenOffice, the text on one page now flows over to a second page.


My laptop has LibreOffice, and I compared all line spacing, margin 
settings. etc. to the same document on another desktop that still has 
OpenOffice 2.4 installed.All settings look identical.  In fact, I am 
comparing the same document using a flash drive to go between systems.


Has anyone had a similar problem?How do I resolve this without 
reformatting the entire document?


I'll be happy to send screen shots, if that will help.





I had this problem with the OOo 3.0 with LO 3.3.  The problem then was 
the default fonts.  LO installs some fonts and uses them for the defaults.


Are the fonts you are using in the .fonts hidden folder?  I have heard 
than some systems had OOo and LO fonts installed in other folders than 
the .fonts folder, including the .libreoffice/3/user/fonts folder.  
I keep that folder empty and only use the font files in the.fonts 
folder.  OOo may have a similar package defined folder where it places 
some of the fonts, like LO does. There seems to be some differences in 
some fonts that seem to have the same name.


I use Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10 with the MATE desktop environment instead 
of the KDE desktop environment, but I have that option installed if I 
want to open Ubuntu using the KDE d.e..


KDE's System Settings - Font Management utility will group your fonts 
into System and Personal fonts. My used document fonts tend to alway be 
listed on the Personal font list and not the System font list.  There 
are a lot of fonts in the System font list I never used and many were 
installed by Ubuntu 12.04 that were not installed with 10.04.  Then 
things change again with 12.10.


ALSO, even if the font that is displayed on the font drop down menu 
for the document, does not mean you actually have that font installed in 
the laptop.  If you create a document with Al Heavenly for the text, 
then place it on a flash drive and open it with a different laptop, the 
font name of Al Heavenly willshow in the document even though the 
second laptop does not have that font installed.  It shows the font that 
is tagged with the text and does not have than font grayed-out or 
other indicator that you do not have it installed.  So have you checked 
your font folder[s] to make sure the font is installed in bothsystems?


I tend toinstall a set of fonts on all my systems so I do not have this 
problem.  When you have over 100,000 [14 GB] of font files on your 
system, with a few hundred installed at any one time, it can be a 
problem to make sure you have the needed fonts installed for a document, 
if you keep changing which fonts are installed on your system.





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