[libreoffice-users] Re: Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me

2013-10-11 Thread Nino Novak
Am 11.10.2013 00:09, schrieb CougarB:

 It's like having a Super Power that's available to everyone, but no one
 knows how to get it.

Without being a writer myself, I somehow understand your needs.

What I do presently is using a mind mapping software (I use freemind[1]
for that) for arranging and rearranging stuff. This works quite to my
satisfaction but when finished, the whole composition has to be
transferred to LibreOffice: this also works quite well but then it
remains static from this point on. So if I want to re-arrange it, I have
to do it again in freemind.

It's a workaround.

Nino
[1] http://freemind.sourceforge.net

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request: Lack of Outliner Functionality a Deal Breaker for Me

2013-10-11 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

I Know that the DEVs do not have much time to read these posts, but I
hoped that some poeple on this list might know enough about the Macros
to know if it was possible.

Since I am not on the DEVs list, maybe someone can forward the original
posting to their list

I did not know a feature request was to go onto the BUGS tracking
system.  I thought it was just for posting bugs that crop up in a version.

On 10/10/2013 07:20 PM, Joel Madero wrote:
 Just a friendly reminder that devs rarely track this mailing list. If
 you have a feature request it belongs on our bug tracker
 (bugs.freedesktop.org) else it will never get implemented.


 Best,
 Joel

 On 10/10/2013 03:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
 I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with
 Macros.

 I know one book writer that does a great deal of his work through macros
 he created over the years.  He could not find any word processor package
 that did what he wanted so he learned to write macros.  First with Star
 Office, then OOo, and now using LO on his Linux system.  I do not
 remember all of the things he wrote about in his author's notes before
 he got into his e-newsletter, but one time he did talk about all of the
 things he needed to be done and went out to find a package that could do
 it through the macros.  The last author's notes was about getting OOo
 running on a new Linux system.  That was when it was in the late 1.x
 stage or early 2.x one.  Just about 2 years ago, I found out he switched
 to LO.  He no longer writes/co-writes 4 to 6 books a year, but he still
 does a few, now that he is in his late 70's.

 So
 Those who are really good at writing Macros, how much of the info below
 can be taken care of through some type of macros?



 On 10/10/2013 06:09 PM, CougarB wrote:
 When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very
 successful
 using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word
 Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner
 functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the
 functionality of PCOutline.

 I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time
 technical writer
 in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a
 java
 house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to
 MS, that
 I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since
 they came
 along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and
 furthermore,
 the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole
 point,
 from my point of view.

 I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't
 make the
 switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power
 of an
 outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without.

 So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not
 allow you to
 understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft
 Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx.

 The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the
 foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view,
 there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and
 drop up and
 down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other
 features, it's extremely  powerful.

 The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an
 article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first
 line of the
 paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25
 paragraphs on
 the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the
 entire article by drop and drag.

 For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between
 sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements
 into a new
 order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed
 paragraph or
 sentence in a snap.

 The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For
 instance,
 if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've
 brainstormed 5
 pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel, I create
 headers
 for different topics and then drag and drop paragraphs, quotes,
 ideas, etc
 into the headers or buckets I've created. When one header becomes
 too full
 and fills too much of the screen, I collapse it, so that it hides
 all the
 paragraphs already there, which cleans up the screen. When I'm done
 with
 this step, I have half a dozen headers, under which are many different
 ideas, all of which are completely hidden.

 So I drag and drop my half a dozen headers into the correct order.
 Then I
 open the first main header and create a bunch of subheaders. Once
 this is
 done, I reorganize all of the points in this first section into
 subsections
 or sub-buckets, collapsing them all as needed until everything is
 organized
 into a number of different subheaders. At this point, I can
 rearrange all of
 these 

[libreoffice-users] Re: inserting pdf into writer document

2013-10-11 Thread william drescher

On 10/10/2013 2:22 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.
Sometimes I do this by opening the PDF in LO draw and then copying relavent 
parts to writer documnet.
Not all PDFs open perfectly in draw.


Opening in Draw workes a treat !  As I only need about 20 of the 
233 pages this is

quick and easy and formatting is preserved just fine.
Many thanks

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[libreoffice-users] missing menu launcher link in 4.1.2.3

2013-10-11 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

I noticed that 4.1.2.3 for Debian 64-bit [Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE] is
missing the generic menu launcher listing for LO. The one that does
not go directly to any of the modules, like Writer or Calc.

Was that menu listing removed or was there some install problem.

For 4.0.5, I keep the desktop launcher icons for:

   LibreOffice 4.0
   LibreOffice 4.0 Writer
   LibreOffice 4.0 Calc

on my desktop screen, plus the generic and Writer icons on the top
launch panel.

The menu links are listed in ApplicationsOffice

So, was that generic launcher link removed from the list that is
placed in the ApplicationsOffice menu?  Or did something happen to my
install process?

As I stated, I run Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the latest MATE desktop
environment.
[looks something like GNOME 2.6?]

Linux Mint has a MATE desktop version as well.

As I stated, I like to have that generic launcher on my desktop screen
and the top panel.  If it is no longer available, then I will have to
live without it.

I am in no hurry to go back to 4.1.2, due to a font menu issue that is a
show stopper for me and my 660+ installed fonts.  So I will be waiting
for 4.1.4 or so before I switch my main desktop to that line.  4.0.5
does not have the issue.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] missing menu launcher link in 4.1.2.3

2013-10-11 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook

On 11/10/13 13:51, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:


I noticed that 4.1.2.3 for Debian 64-bit [Ubuntu 12.04LTS/MATE] is
missing the generic menu launcher listing for LO. The one that
does not go directly to any of the modules, like Writer or Calc.


[cut]


So, was that generic launcher link removed from the list that is
placed in the ApplicationsOffice menu?  Or did something happen to
my install process?


[cut]
It's been accidentally omitted I would guess, as I've noticed the same
thing.


As I stated, I like to have that generic launcher on my desktop
screen and the top panel.  If it is no longer available, then I will
have to live without it.


[cut]

Why not just create it - as I did - rather than live without it?

Peter HB

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[libreoffice-users] overlooked ?????

2013-10-11 Thread erwin

LS,

About to quite using any form of LibreOffice or anything related to it. 
How can it be that page numbering is so much overlooked that one needs 
to use footers or headers to try to implement it manually ???
I suggest to make this priority 1, if not DIVINE as it is the utmost 
commonly used function in Writer.


A very dissatisfied almost-no-longer-user,

H.W. Roos

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Re: [libreoffice-users] overlooked ?????

2013-10-11 Thread Sigrid Carrera
HI,


On 11 October 2013 17:34, erwin er...@herow-int.com wrote:

 LS,

 About to quite using any form of LibreOffice or anything related to it.
 How can it be that page numbering is so much overlooked that one needs to
 use footers or headers to try to implement it manually ???
 I suggest to make this priority 1, if not DIVINE as it is the utmost
 commonly used function in Writer.

 I'm not sure what you mean here?
The only thing you have to do manually, is setting the formfield to the
place where you want to have it and Writer does the page numbering for you.
So what specifically are you complaining about?



 A very dissatisfied almost-no-longer-user,


A more than happy and satisfied user,

Sigrid

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[libreoffice-users] stopping superscript text in Calc

2013-10-11 Thread John R. Sowden
Been having the problem for a long time.  Using Calc, I write a date, 
Oct 23rd, (I add the rd which shows as a superscript. Problem is 
whenever I add new text to the cell, it is in the superscript size, not 
regular text.


John



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Re: [libreoffice-users] stopping superscript text in Calc

2013-10-11 Thread Mark Bourne

John R. Sowden wrote:

Been having the problem for a long time.  Using Calc, I write a date,
Oct 23rd, (I add the rd which shows as a superscript. Problem is
whenever I add new text to the cell, it is in the superscript size, not
regular text.

John


As you've noticed, with the rd superscript, any text added takes on 
that format. If you want to keep the rd in superscript, but change the 
following text back to normal, select the text to change and go to:

  Format  Character  Font Position
  Set it to Normal position.

To stop it superscripting the rd in the first place:
  Tools  AutoCorrect Options  Localised Options
  Un-tick Format ordinal numbers suffixes (1st - 1^st)

Hope that helps.
Mark.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] stopping superscript text in Calc

2013-10-11 Thread John R. Sowden

On 10/11/2013 12:51 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:

John R. Sowden wrote:

Been having the problem for a long time. Using Calc, I write a date,
Oct 23rd, (I add the rd which shows as a superscript. Problem is
whenever I add new text to the cell, it is in the superscript size, not
regular text.

John


As you've noticed, with the rd superscript, any text added takes on 
that format. If you want to keep the rd in superscript, but change 
the following text back to normal, select the text to change and go to:

  Format  Character  Font Position
  Set it to Normal position.

To stop it superscripting the rd in the first place:
  Tools  AutoCorrect Options  Localised Options
  Un-tick Format ordinal numbers suffixes (1st - 1^st)

Hope that helps.
Mark.

Thanks for the help.  This sounds like a feature request, similiar to 
copying of the superscript in a Calc column, and entering a space to 
cancel it.  I'll turn it off for now.


Thanks,
John


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[libreoffice-users] Re: North America Pub Chat

2013-10-11 Thread Joel Madero
Because it's a waste of time until we get enough people saying they are 
at least interested. I've done doodles before and it's only worth it 
when there is pre-commitment to the idea of having a meeting.



Best,
Joel

On 10/11/2013 03:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
Why not do a doodle it will make things easy for you to determine day 
and time.



On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 
mailto:jmadero@gmail.com wrote:


hip. Really 1 hour a month is enough time to give back a bit.

Hi,

I dont know if I can make it this Friday, but could you also
point out the time
in UTC too? For a continental european guest a time like
12:00pm EST is
ultimately confusing -- is that EST or 2400EST?


Sure, apologies for that :)

So for North America (or at least United States) we have:
PST (GMT - 7)
MDT (GMT -6)
CST (GMT - 5)
EST (GMT - 4)

Once I get a head count of who theoretically would be interested
if the time was right, we can start discussing what specific time
will work and I'll make sure to do the conversion to GMT :) As of
now it looks like 1200 (1900 GMT) on Friday isn't going to work as
there just doesn't seem to be availability/interest.

All the best,
Joel
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[libreoffice-users] Re: North America Pub Chat

2013-10-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Why not do a doodle it will make things easy for you to determine day and
time.


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 hip. Really 1 hour a month is enough time to give back a bit.

 Hi,

 I dont know if I can make it this Friday, but could you also point out
 the time
 in UTC too? For a continental european guest a time like 12:00pm EST is
 ultimately confusing -- is that EST or 2400EST?


 Sure, apologies for that :)

 So for North America (or at least United States) we have:
 PST (GMT - 7)
 MDT (GMT -6)
 CST (GMT - 5)
 EST (GMT - 4)

 Once I get a head count of who theoretically would be interested if the
 time was right, we can start discussing what specific time will work and
 I'll make sure to do the conversion to GMT :) As of now it looks like 1200
 (1900 GMT) on Friday isn't going to work as there just doesn't seem to be
 availability/interest.

 All the best,
 Joel
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