I Know that the DEVs do not have much time to read these posts, but I hoped that some poeple on this list might know enough about the Macros to know if it was possible.
Since I am not on the DEVs list, maybe someone can forward the original posting to their list???? I did not know a feature request was to go onto the BUGS tracking system. I thought it was just for posting bugs that crop up in a version. On 10/10/2013 07:20 PM, Joel Madero wrote: > Just a friendly reminder that devs rarely track this mailing list. If > you have a feature request it belongs on our bug tracker > (bugs.freedesktop.org) else it will never get implemented. > > > Best, > Joel > > On 10/10/2013 03:50 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: >> I am not a Macro person, but I wonder how much of this can be done with >> Macros. >> >> I know one book writer that does a great deal of his work through macros >> he created over the years. He could not find any word processor package >> that did what he wanted so he learned to write macros. First with Star >> Office, then OOo, and now using LO on his Linux system. I do not >> remember all of the things he wrote about in his "author's notes" before >> he got into his e-newsletter, but one time he did talk about all of the >> things he needed to be done and went out to find a package that could do >> it through the macros. The last "author's notes" was about getting OOo >> running on a new Linux system. That was when it was in the late 1.x >> stage or early 2.x one. Just about 2 years ago, I found out he switched >> to LO. He no longer writes/co-writes 4 to 6 books a year, but he still >> does a few, now that he is in his late 70's. >> >> So >> Those who are really good at writing Macros, how much of the info below >> can be taken care of through some type of macros? >> >> >> >> On 10/10/2013 06:09 PM, CougarB wrote: >>> When I was a full-time journalist in the 1980s, I became very >>> successful >>> using a dedicated outliner called PCOutline. When all the major Word >>> Processers came along--MS Word, Word Perfect, etc, the lack of outliner >>> functionality kept me with my archaic outliner until MS Word beat the >>> functionality of PCOutline. >>> >>> I used outlining as my main method of work when a full-time >>> technical writer >>> in the 90s (e.g., Fujitsu Software in San Jose). While working for a >>> java >>> house, I was so influenced by the negative developer reactions to >>> MS, that >>> I've been wishing to move to OpenOffice or LibraOffice ever since >>> they came >>> along. But you don't have the functionality that I need, and >>> furthermore, >>> the discussions of outlining on this forum seem to miss the whole >>> point, >>> from my point of view. >>> >>> I'm a very motivated wannabe LibraOffice user who currently can't >>> make the >>> switch, because although I'm retired and writing fiction, the power >>> of an >>> outliner for writing in all genres is something I can't live without. >>> >>> So my reasons are complex--sorry about that--but tl:dr will not >>> allow you to >>> understand them. Please take the time. I really want to quit Microsoft >>> Office forever and ever and ever. Thanx. >>> >>> The first functionality I need might seem mickey mouse, but it's the >>> foundation for everything else. This is that in Word's outliner view, >>> there's a button in front of every paragraph that I can drag and >>> drop up and >>> down. It's like cut and paste, but a lot faster. Combined with other >>> features, it's extremely powerful. >>> >>> The second functionality I need is to be able to collapse things. In an >>> article of 25 paragraphs, I can hide every line except the first >>> line of the >>> paragraph, thus allowing me to see the entire article of 25 >>> paragraphs on >>> the screen at the same time. This allows me to completely rearrange the >>> entire article by drop and drag. >>> >>> For editing a single sentence or paragraph, I insert a return between >>> sentences, phrases, and even words, drop and drag these elements >>> into a new >>> order, and delete the returns. Voila! A much better constructed >>> paragraph or >>> sentence in a snap. >>> >>> The third functionality is to collapse things within headers. For >>> instance, >>> if I've interviewed a dozen people for an article or if I've >>> brainstormed 5 >>> pages of random ideas for a blog or a chapter in a novel, I create >>> headers >>> for different topics and then drag and drop paragraphs, quotes, >>> ideas, etc >>> into the headers or buckets I've created. When one header becomes >>> too full >>> and fills too much of the screen, I collapse it, so that it hides >>> all the >>> paragraphs already there, which cleans up the screen. When I'm done >>> with >>> this step, I have half a dozen headers, under which are many different >>> ideas, all of which are completely hidden. >>> >>> So I drag and drop my half a dozen headers into the correct order. >>> Then I >>> open the first main header and create a bunch of subheaders. Once >>> this is >>> done, I reorganize all of the points in this first section into >>> subsections >>> or sub-buckets, collapsing them all as needed until everything is >>> organized >>> into a number of different subheaders. At this point, I can >>> rearrange all of >>> these subheaders into the best order that they belong in. I can even >>> drag a >>> subheader into a different main heading if I choose, where it will >>> remain as >>> a separate section. >>> >>> I can repeat this process as many levels as I wish. This feature in >>> MS Word >>> is fractal to nine levels. From a chaotic mixture of confusion emerges >>> order, insight, and wisdom--in one single step. >>> >>> As a technical writer, I used to sit in a brainstorming meetings, >>> write down >>> every developer idea as fast as I could (including those I didn't >>> understand >>> at all), type it all sequentially, and then very quickly organize >>> all of the >>> ideas into a coherent whole. The developers thought I actually knew >>> how to >>> program. (Mwah-hah-hah!) >>> >>> I could never have done that with LibreOffice as it's now configured or >>> OpenOffice, either. Without my Word outliner, I would have been a >>> shitty >>> technical writer, and I would never have been able to write the >>> developer >>> guides I wrote. >>> >>> As a creative writer today, I currently have a dozen projects that are >>> percolating, as well as one major project that I'm focusing on. I just >>> brainstorm for anything that comes up, drag the ideas into the proper >>> buckets, and I never lose anything of value. (Yes, the word "never" is >>> absolutely accurate.) >>> >>> It's like having a Super Power that's available to everyone, but no one >>> knows how to get it. Currently, this Super Power is only available >>> in MS >>> Word. Please make it possible for me to migrate to LibreOffice without >>> losing my Super Powers. And please make these Super Powers available >>> to the >>> world. Doing so could cause the entire planet to evolve into better >>> writers. >>> You can help eliminate crappy writing! >>> >>> Until you do this, LibreOffice is like Kryptonite to me. I can't >>> come near >>> it, even though I truly want to. >>> >>> I beg of you: Please help poor little Cougar quit his addiction to >>> Micro$oft! (Yeah, I know. Outliners do not eliminate the scourge of >>> mixed >>> metaphors.) >>> >>> For those of you who made it this far, thanx for listening. >>> Cougar >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Feature-Request-Lack-of-Outliner-Functionality-a-Deal-Breaker-for-Me-tp4077564.html >>> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
