[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-website] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!

2015-01-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Robinson Tryon wrote on 2015-01-24 at 21:50:

The migration was a great success. All of our bugs are now happily living at

   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/


thanks a lot to everyone involved, especially Robinson, Cloph and Alex - 
great work, and happy to finally have BugZilla in our own 
infrastructure! Thanks for the extra work during the weekend, you rock! ;-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2014-09-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Ram 'Gurumukhi' wrote on 2014-09-21 at 06:29:

I am finding no time to contribute to Libreoffice Community, can you
please remove me from this moderator's list?


of course, I have removed you as moderator of the users list. Thanks for 
your work!


Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Re: query ...

2014-05-18 Thread Florian Effenberger

I think this is related to the problems I mentioned on the moderators list
Services should be back to normal now

anne-ology wrote on 2014-05-18 05:24:

... curiously wondering why this (see below) wasn't delivered to
the list ???



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?

2014-02-03 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi James,

James E Lang wrote on 2014-01-31 21:12:


I also think most mailing lists encourage replies to the list by inserting a 
"Reply-To" header designating the list as the preferred reply address. This 
lets all on the list to learn from most responses. It also guides people on the list 
regarding which queries still need a response.


we had quite a large discussion on that topic a while ago, with 
advantages and disadvantages for both settings (so called "reply-to 
mangling"). We have in the end agreed to use the setting as it is now.


Sorry if that causes inconveniences for you, but there's close to little 
we can do to make everyone happy.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)

2013-10-23 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Stefano,

S o H o N Y C wrote on 2013-10-22 12:47:

   my copy of  LibreOffice 4.1.2 keeps crashing as soon as I start editing a 
text document. It keeps asking for Java Runtime SE 6.0 even though it is 
installed already.

   Any ideas of a fix? maybe 4.1.3 RC1 can help? Thanks in advance for your 
response


I am not subscribed to this list, so please Cc me for replies.

I cannot confirm this behaviour. I run 4.1.2 on 10.9. The first start 
provoked a crash when editing a document, asking for Java - having 
confirmed the Java download in OS X, it works like a charm for me.


Do you have only the Apple-provided Java installed, or also a 
third-party one?


Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ask.LibreOffice.org and Bugzilla Twitter accounts

2013-05-17 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Zeki,

Zeki Bildirici wrote on 2013-05-17 13:27:

We had used this method in Pardus GNU/Linux and it worked. After
asking to Florian for his advice that if is this possible to use this
channels for LibreOffice, i've creaed two twitter accounts.


I'd like to take a chance to say a big thank you for your great work! 
It's fantastic how fast you have come up with this solution, and I 
really love the idea.


Thank you so much, and keep up the good work - you rock! :-)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-08 11:07:


Just checking my first impressions are right.  So, most of the blocked
messages are from people that are not subscribed?  Those fall into 3
main categories
1.  Spam
2.  Junk
3.  Legitimate post (i hesitate to use the term "serious" given the
nature of many legitimate posts to this list)

For 1 & 2 we do nothing and just let the message get dealt with
automatically.  It's only the 3rd case that we unblock them.

This looks a lot more trivial than i was expecting.


exactly - it's fairly easy. ;-)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Joel Madero wrote on 2013-05-08 01:47:

If QA is included in the call for moderators, fantastic, if not, I'd
open it up as well :) I will maintain admin rights and get familiar with
them but moderation will be needed.


the QA list is outside my scope - I don't even have administrative 
access here, so it was not included in the call for moderators. Of 
course, if you can configure the list, feel free to start such a call. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

anne-ology wrote on 2013-05-07 21:24:

sounds like something I could do for this list.


thank you very much for volunteering! I have just added you as 
moderator. :-)


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Tom,

Thomas Taylor wrote on 2013-05-06 00:46:


I would be interested in assisting with this lists' moderation.  I'm
bound to a wheelchair and have several health problems.  I need
hemo-dialysis three days per week for at least four hours per session
and wifi access is provided so I would be able to use that time and
most mornings and evenings.  Afternoons are very iffy as I have lots of
doctor appointments which I try to limit to those times.


I am really touched by your e-mail and your generosity, and would like 
to thank you personally for your support and encouraging example - I am 
really, really touched by the fact that, despite your own issues, you 
would like to support us in this way.


I have added you as a moderator of this mailing list, but I really would 
like to let you know that you should not feel any obligation at all. 
Your own health is the most important good, so please don't feel pushed 
in any way.


Again, thank you very much, and all the best for you personally!
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Tom Davies wrote on 2013-05-05 23:01:


That all sounds wise.  A trial run after exams.  Well, after celebrating
after exams.


good luck with these!


I would quite like to be 1 of the moderators here but ideally
1.  if there are plenty of other people to cover it too.  Most of the
posts seem to be when i am afk or even off-line completely
2.  just for a trial period in case people aren't happy with the way i
do it or in case i become unhappy with it.

So, please make me a moderator of the Users List and lets see how it goes.


Thanks for volunteering - I have just made you a moderator! :)

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-06 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

RD Vaishnav wrote on 2013-05-04 13:49:

i m interested in becoming moderator for mailing list. and is it fine if
i check mails just twice or thrice a day?? and thanks for the opportunity.


thanks a lot! I've just made you moderator of the users list. ;-)
Of course, it's totally fine to check mails even just once a day. 
There's no obligation to read everything in time - sorry if my mail 
sounded that way. I just want to make sure that people moderating the 
list are also actually reading it, that's it. :)


So, welcome on board!
Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Seeking for list moderators

2013-05-04 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

at the moment, we are looking for volunteers who could help moderate 
this mailing list.


If you are interested, the only requirement is that you are subscribed 
to the list yourself and read its mails in a somehow timely manner, but 
that's about it.


Moderation means dealing with e-mails that do not automatically make it 
to the list, which you then manually forward, or reject. This happens 
either when an e-mail comes from an unknown sender, e.g. when a project 
member uses a different address for posting. It also occurs when someone 
unexperienced writes to the list, thinking it's a private account, but 
in fact it's a public list.


You'll receive the message to be moderated via e-mail, which you then 
can either "moderate through", or reject.


Is someone interested in joining our efforts? It'd be much appreciated - 
just drop me an email (please also copy me directly, and not only the 
list), then I'm happy to add you to the list of moderators.


Thanks!
Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fw: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Funding Wishlist

2012-11-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

the wiki was only partially reachable for a few days due to high load on 
the server, but we fixed that now. If there are other bugs, please le me 
- or better: webs...@global.libreoffice.org - know.


Florian


Tom Davies wrote on 2012-11-09 20:24:

Hi :)
I thought a few of you might like to know the wiki is back up and
running.  I think the main docs page was not affected anyway.  I'm not
sure if this was part of the planned maintenance.  Florian's answer
suggests it wasn't, in which case we face a few more days disruption in
a week or few.  I suspect it's just a language issue and that it was the
planned maintenance.

Anyway i am sure i have either missed the announcement or that there
will be one in a few days.  This message was just to let you know the
wiki really does work already.
Regards from
Tom :)


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Conference - registration deadline ends tomorrow

2012-10-07 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello everyone,

just about one more week, and this years' LibreOffice Conference takes 
place in Berlin. I would like to remind you that the *deadline* for the 
registration ends tomorrow,


Monday, October 8th, 2012, at 21:59 UTC

If you want to attend the conference, and didn't register so far, we 
urge you to do so within the deadline at


http://conference.libreoffice.org/registration

The LibreOffice Conference 2012 takes places in a public building of 
German ministries, and without proper registration, you can *not* enter 
the event. So, in your own interest, please ensure you meet the deadline.


In case you do not want to attend the conference yet, I'd like to 
advertise a bit more. :) Our program committee has invested lots of time 
to make this conference an unforgettable, noteworthy event, and we are 
proud to have a program with a vivid mixture of development, community, 
marketing, infrastructure and many other working areas of the 
LibreOffice project:


http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LiboCon2012.pdf

Last but not least, this is your chance to meet the faces behind the 
LibreOffice community: developers, marketeers, admins, localizers, 
documentation writers, designers and many, many more. We'll all have a 
great time in Berlin, and want you to be a part of it!


Taking place at the conference center of the Federal Ministry of 
Economics and Technology (BMWi), and sponsored by leading players 
Canonical, Google and SerNet, it is not only the annual gathering of the 
worldwide community, but also meeting point for governmental and 
corporate adopters and innovators.


Looking forward to meeting you in Berlin!
Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribe

2012-08-16 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

in order to improve the wording of the unsubscribe instructions, could 
you please tell us where you had the problems and what step did not work 
out?


When you write to the users+h...@global.libreoffice.org you'll receive a 
mail for instructions on how to subscribe and unsubscribe, and the 
unsubscribe addresses differ depending on whether you have a normal 
subscription (you receive each mail individually and without delay), or 
digest mode (you receive a collection of mails). Is that where the 
misunderstanding started?


You will then receive another mail, asking for confirmation of the 
unsubscribe, in order to prevent other people from unsubscribing you 
without your consent - just as the request for confirmation when 
subscribing prevents that other people add you to the list. Were you 
able to figure out that you had to send another mail to the appropriate 
unsubscribe address, after receiving the automatic reply?


We also link to a handy page with all information about unsubscribing, 
including a human contact you can reach in case things do not work for 
you. This page is linked in the footer of every message. Did you read 
this page? You can find it at 
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/


You were now manually removed from the list, but nevertheless we'd be 
glad if you could tell us where the problem was, so that we can improve 
the process and make it easier for other users in the same situation as 
you were.


Thanks,
Florian

Jerry White wrote on 2012-08-16 15:21:

unsubscribe



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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2012-08-16 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Michael Smith wrote on 2012-08-16 00:33:

unsubscribe


I tried to unsubscribe you manually, but the @yahoo.com address you used 
to write this message is not subscribed to the list. Do you maybe use an 
alias?


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-13 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to thank everyone for your feedback, and assure you that I 
read every bit, even if I don't manage to reply to every message in detail.


My offer stands valid, let's wait for some more feedback and some more 
days, and then make a final decision.


Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Reply settings on this list have changed

2012-08-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

this is to inform you that the reply settings on this list have changed 
(so-called "Reply to mangling" has been disabled).


So far, e-mails had set a reply-to the mailing list address. In other 
words, with any e-mail client, replies to e-mails on the list were 
automatically sent directly to the list.


In the past, this lead to two major problems:

1. Several times, people have sent direct replies to the public list, 
where deleting them is nearly impossible. I remember at least one case 
where confidential information has been sent out that caused lots of 
worries for the sender and his employer. This happened because people 
hit "reply" and thought it would reply to the sender only.


2. I have heard complaints in the past from people, stating that working 
with the non-developer lists of LibreOffice is a pain for them, because 
of reply-to mangling, resulting in a lack of communication. This also 
led to the fact that numerous tasks were done by the same people, who 
needed to spend more and more time, instead of sharing the work burden 
with others. While I do not fully believe this argument, there's just 
one way to find out...


Therefore, I have applied a change:

Replies to e-mails from the list now only go to the original sender. You 
either need to use the "reply to all" feature of your e-mail program, or 
- preferably - the "reply to list"/"reply to group" feature, which will 
direct replies directly to the list.


This is common practice on most mailing lists, and even the default 
setting for our mailing list software, so we did not re-invent the wheel 
here. Those seeking for details should have a look at 
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


I know we had numerous discussions on this topic in the past, but the 
outcome was that roughly 50% were for this change, and 50% refused it, 
so I am really sitting between two chairs here, for which I beg for your 
understanding. On the one hand, those complaining the lists are unusable 
with reply-to mangling, on the other hand, those complaining the lists 
are unusable without reply-to mangling. Unfortunately, combining those 
two, even on a per-recipient basis, is not possible, so they are 
mutually exclusive to each other.


In order to find out the real impact, I simply changed the setting, and 
again, I beg for your understanding.


Do not worry: The mailing lists are for the community, so it's the 
community deciding how they should work. What I'd like to ask all of you 
is to try out for a few days if that change is good for each list or 
not. Should we find out it is more harmful than it helps, I will 
immediately switch back to the old behaviour.


Sorry for this short notice, and I beg for your understanding that I'm 
somehow sitting between two chairs here.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

I am not subscribed to this list, just saw new postings in the archives, 
so if I miss replying to an important message regarding unsubscription, 
please excuse me. ;-)


Well, basically, subscription and unsubscription work *exactly* the same 
way, except that of course, subscribe is replaced by unsubscribe in the 
message footer.


We currently have one limitation, that is due to our mailing list 
software, but a new release here has been pending for many months, and 
it finally looks like we can see it at the horizon. :) Depending on the 
type of subscription (regular, digest or nomail for those using GMANE), 
you need to unsubscribe.


We already had a +unsubscribe link in the footer, which immediately 
brought many complaints from digest subscribers, telling that 
unsubscription does not work. In future versions of our mailing list 
manager, this will work, but right now, digest subscribers have to use a 
different address.


I also had disabled digest subscriptions at all in the beginning, which 
brought complaints as well, so I finally enabled them.


You see, whatever we do, it's wrong for some people, depending on their 
situation. That's why we created that dedicated web site with detailed 
information. I bet that anyone who reads thoroughly, and managed to 
subscribe, should be able to manage unsubscribing. In case they do not, 
they can contact the address at the bottom of that web site, normally 
leading to manual unsubscription in less than a few hours.


We ask everyone who has issues to let us know in detail about the 
problem, and for at least 95% it's simply "they did not read". Only very 
few issues were technically related.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Cor Nouws wrote on 2012-01-20 13:57:


Sadly, yes.
Sorry that this is causing you extra trouble.


no problem, I hope this information can help a bit those who cannot 
unsubscribe.



I always wonder how it can be possible that someone can send a mail to
XX+subscribe@YY and reply to the confirmation mail, but then is not able
to do the same with XX+unsubscribe@YY.
To me, it's just wasting peoples time and fouling our lists. Ah well :-)


Indeed. What's most annoying are those people badly complaining and 
ranting at us, but most people simply do not take the time to read. 
That's what annoys me most. I accept to be blamed when there's a 
malfunction on our side, but when people simply do not want to read, it 
sucks. :)


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[libreoffice-users] Unsubscribing from this list

2012-01-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

in the last few days, we have been receiving numerous requests for 
unsubscription from this mailing list.


Since we are a volunteer project, and each of us spends up to several 
hours per day to work on his tasks, pro bono, I would like to ask all of 
you to *READ* this message *IN ITS ENTIRETY*.


Every mailing lists contains information on how to unsubscribe in the 
footer. In case you have problems with unsubscribing, there is also a 
website giving detailed information on what to do to unsubscribe. Its 
address is


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At the bottom of this page, there is also a *HUMAN CONTACT* you can 
write to in case of troubles. Do *NOT* reply to *THIS* e-mail in order 
to be unsubscribed, and do *NOT* drop me a private mail. It will *NOT* 
work. Rather *READ* the above page thoroughly, and in case it does not 
solve your problem, you can drop an e-mail to the contact mentioned there.


Way over 95% of all unsubscription problems are not related to any 
malfunction of our mail system or of spam filters triggering in error. 
We can confirm - we've researched each and every case - that nearly all 
unsubscription problems simply occur because people do not *READ* the 
instructions we give.


Thank you very much for your cooperation, and sorry for any inconveniences,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

2012-01-19 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Randy,


You should try the same advice...

I knew I was subscribing ... all I wanted to know was how to get Java and this 
to work ... I asked nicely the first 6 times ... I'm getting a little tired and 
cranky from over 50 eMails about  book bindings ... formatting a picture ...etc

Now all I want to do is quit getting these eMails

Libre won't be getting any recommendations from me...


I wanted to unsubscribe you manually, but did not find your address on 
file anymore, so I guess you managed already.


In case you still have problems, please *directly* write to

postmas...@documentfoundation.org

If you simply reply to this mailing lists, chances are I will *not* see 
your mail in first place, so please *only* use the postmaster address.


Thanks, and sorry for any inconveniences,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Interviewer, anyone?

2011-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

thanks for your interest!

jorge wrote on 2011-10-05 02:29:


1) How good have to be my english ?


it should be a good English, since we want to publish the interview in 
printed form and you need some understanding of the responses. It is 
about the progress and achievements at the Hackfest that took place at 
the beginning of September.



2) Who is the person that I will interview ?


One of our developers volunteered to be interviewed.


3) How is going to be the interview: chat, write, videoconference ?


Best would be via e-mail.

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[libreoffice-users] how to unsubscribe

2011-07-20 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

since we received several reports about problems with unsubscribing, we 
have compiled a comprehensive help text at


http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/

If you want to unsubscribe from this list and experience problems, 
please read the instructions on that page *thoroughly*. At the bottom, 
there is a human contact named who will help in case of problems, 
*after* you read that page.


Please do *not* reply to this message, as I am *not* following this 
mailing list. If you reply with unsubscribe requests to this e-mail, 
they will *not* reach me - use the above page for information instead.


Thanks, and sorry for any inconveniences,
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[libreoffice-users] address change working

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

I managed the first change of the addresses.

1. The archives from listarchives.libreoffice.org/www are now available 
at listarchives.libreoffice.org/global, with an automatic redirection in 
place


2. The lists previously available @libreoffice.org are available now at 
@global.libreoffice.org, with the old addresses working for a few more 
days (but will vanish soon)


3. The headers have been modified, so chances are you have to adjust 
your e-mail program filters.


4. The e-mail footers have been modified as well.

I will take care of the mail archives and GMANE tomorrow. If you run 
into any issues, please let me know.


Things should work, but I'm not finished yet, so the rest will follow 
tomorrow.


Thanks,
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[libreoffice-users] another mail to create a new archive, please ignore

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

another mail to create a new archive, please ignore

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[libreoffice-users] address change working

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

I managed the first change of the addresses.

1. The archives from listarchives.libreoffice.org/www are now available 
at listarchives.libreoffice.org/global, with an automatic redirection in 
place


2. The lists previously available @libreoffice.org are available now at 
@global.libreoffice.org, with the old addresses working for a few more 
days (but will vanish soon)


3. The headers have been modified, so chances are you have to adjust 
your e-mail program filters.


4. The e-mail footers have been modified as well.

I will take care of the mail archives and GMANE tomorrow. If you run 
into any issues, please let me know.


Things should work, but I'm not finished yet, so the rest will follow 
tomorrow.


Thanks,
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[libreoffice-users] address changes DELAYED

2011-06-09 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

sadly, a project caught me longer today than I thought, and I will have 
to work probably one or two more hours on it, which means that I cannot 
manage the address change for the lists today. So,


the address change for the lists will be DELAYED

I am sorry, the project came in quite unexpectedly, but sometimes "real 
life" needs time, too. :-)


I will try to do the address change as soon as possible, and follow-up 
on this lists soon. In the meantime, simply use the current addresses.


Sorry for the inconveniences,
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[libreoffice-users] Reminder: New list address tomorrow

2011-06-08 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

this is just a short reminder that tomorrow, Thursday, these lists will 
get new addresses. For details, see


http://www.mail-archive.com/marketing@libreoffice.org/msg03174.html

As soon as the change is in effect (I plan for the evening, based on 
German=UTC+2 time), I will ping this list again.


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[libreoffice-users] Unsubscription issues?

2011-06-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

one more note to unsubscribing, as this seems to occur often:

The address you use for unsubscribing has to be the *SAME* as the one 
you used for subscribing. If you subscribe with y...@yourcompany.com and 
unsubscribe with y...@yourprivateaccount.org, it can *NOT* work, as our 
mailing list system for sure cannot know who you are.


So, if you try unsubscribing and it doesn't work, please double-check 
it's the right address. You can also have a look at the message headers 
to find out which account the mail was delivered to.


If in doubt: Do not rant on the list, but rather write to the humans who 
can help you, i.e. our team of admins, at


postmas...@documentfoundation.org

We usually reply within a few hours. And again, please do *NOT* open 
tickets on spam reporting sites. It is *NOT* our fault if you use the 
wrong address. We can help you, but you need to let us know.


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[libreoffice-users] How to unsubscribe

2011-06-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

it seems that during the last days, people had issues with unsubscribing 
from this mailing list. This led to the TDF mail server being listed in 
a spam blacklist.


I researched the message IDs, and they clearly referred to postings on 
this mailing list, that have not been spam. As we use double opt-in 
mechanism and give information on how to unsubscribe at the footer of 
each mail, I managed to get us unlisted again, but this costs lots of time.


So, if anyone on this list has issues with unsubscribing and cannot 
manage them on their own, feel free to contact


postmas...@documentfoundation.org

directly, where one of our administrators will unsubscribe you manually, 
if needed.


Before filing spam complaints that are not justified, and cost hours of 
our volunteer (!) work, please get in touch with us first. I am sure any 
issues can be solved without involving third parties.


NB: I am *not* subscribed to this mailing list (users@), so if you want 
to follow-up with me, write to me directly or to the postmaster alias.


Thanks,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello Dennis,

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on 2011-05-26 18.20:

And who is this capital-C "Community" of which you speak?  (I was teasing about 
 founders.libreoffice.org, but not members.libreoffice.org.)  What was done to engage all 
effected parties?


the Community is all of us, the people engaging on the lists, 
contributing. We received many requests like "can I have a 
@libreoffic.org address like it was at OpenOffice.org", and during one 
of the public calls, the steering committee agreed in doing so, help 
people identify with the project. The limitation to members -- anyone 
active can apply as a member -- is solely because of bad experiences we 
had at OpenOffice.org, where people simply could register an 
@openoffice.org address and pretend they speak on behalf of the project. 
We ran into problems indeed with that.


We discussed on the public lists and in the public calls -- it cannot be 
more public and transparent, anyone had a chance to join. In fact, the 
discussion has been running since February or even earlier, so there was 
plenty of time.



But why is the change not made a slight change, if any, for those who are the 
beneficiaries of the change, rather than those who are not?


Because it is technically not possible. We want to issue 
@libreoffice.org addresses, and by doing so, we cannot have mailing 
lists on the same addresses. I also proposed to instead use 
@libreoffice.net for the mail forwarders, but nobody agreed to that. 
This, again, on the public list where anyone could discuss.


And, honestly, it's no bigger change than if one contact of yours has a 
new e-mail address. You change it in the address book, and that's it.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: [libreoffice-documentation] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-26 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Tom Davies wrote on 2011-05-25 20.25:

This has been discussed 'ad nauseum' on the website list and probably
other places although i think it was some time ago and 'shelved' as
being too low-priority at the time.  I haven't checked in with the
website list for many months but i would hazard a guess that they have
been discussing this quite a lot recently too.


there has been a public discussion about that mail addresses on the 
steering discuss list, as well as during the calls. After we received 
lots of inquiries from the Community -- so it is *not* about addresses 
for the founders or the steering committee -- we agreed on handing out 
these forwarders for members of TDF.


It is a slight change for those writing to the lists, but we're trying 
to make the process as easy as possible.


lists.libreoffice.org is not possible for technical reasons, as some 
internal lists and archives are hosted at this address.


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[libreoffice-users] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello everyone,

as part of our membership process, we also would like to give 
@libreoffice.org e-mail forwarders to our approved members. Thanks to 
the folks from Heinlein Support in Berlin, who offered to take care of 
the mail forwarding and to program a web tool to enable users to 
configure the forwarding!


In order to be able to use two different mail servers -- one for mailing 
lists, and one for the mail forwarders -- we have to change the 
addresses of a few mailing lists.


In a nutshell: All lists currently known as @libreoffice.org will in the 
future be known as @global.libreoffice.org


In detail:

accessibil...@libreoffice.org => accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org

des...@libreoffice.org => des...@global.libreoffice.org

documentat...@libreoffice.org => documentat...@global.libreoffice.org

l...@libreoffice.org => l...@global.libreoffice.org

market...@libreoffice.org => market...@global.libreoffice.org

proje...@libreoffice.org => proje...@global.libreoffice.org

users@libreoffice.org => us...@global.libreoffice.org

webs...@libreoffice.org => webs...@global.libreoffice.org

You do *not* have to un- or resubscribe from any lists, as the list of 
all recipients will be automatically transferred to the new addresses. 
The subject prefix, like [libreoffice-website], will also stay the 
*same*. What *will* change is the address you have to send e-mails to, 
and the headers like List-Post and List-ID. So, in case you filter your 
e-mails based on the headers, you *do* need to act. This is most likely 
the case if you use a local mail client like Thunderbird. Webmail 
services like Google Mail usually do *not* make use of these headers.


The change will be effective during the day of

Thursday, June 9th

I will send a follow-up e-mail when the addresses have changed. 
Immediately after that, assume the old addresses will stop working. I 
will try to set them as aliases for a few days, but I cannot guarantee 
it will work out.


However, *no* e-mail will be lost -- in case there is no alias in place, 
you will receive a bounce message and can re-send the mail again.


Sorry for these inconveniences, but they will help us in providing 
e-mail forwarders for our members.


In case of questions, feel free to ask me directly, or on the website@ 
mailing list.


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[libreoffice-users] Six Months of Freedom and Community

2011-03-28 Thread Florian Effenberger
On September 28th, 2010, The Document Foundation was announced. The last 
six months, it feels, have just passed within a short glimpse of time. 
Not only did we release three LibreOffice versions within three months, 
have created the LibreOffice-Box DVD image, and brought LibreOffice 
Portable on its way. We also have announced the LibreOffice Conference 
for October 2011 and have taken part in lots of events worldwide, with 
FOSDEM and CeBIT being the most prominent ones.


People follow us at Twitter, Identi.ca, XING, LinkedIn and a Facebook 
group and fan page, they discuss on our mailing lists with more than 
6.000 subscriptions, collaborate in our wiki, get insight on our daily 
work in our blog, and post and blog themselves. From the very first day, 
openness, transparency and meritocracy have been shaping the framework 
we want to work in. Our discussions and decisions take place on a public 
mailing list, and regularly, we hold phone conferences for the Steering 
Committee and for the marketing teams, where everyone is invited to 
join. Our ideas and visions have made their way into our Next Decade 
Manifesto.


We have joined the Open Invention Network as well as the OpenDoc 
Society, and just last week have become an SPI-associated project, and 
we see a wide range of support from all over the world. Not only do 
Novell and Red Hat support our efforts with developers, but just 
recently, Canonical, creators of Ubuntu, joined as well. All major Linux 
distributions deliver LibreOffice with their operating systems, and more 
follow every day.


One of the most stunning contributions, that still leaves us speechless, 
is the support that we receive from the community. When we asked for 
50,000 € capital stock for a German-based foundation, the community 
showed their support, appreciation and their power, and not only donated 
it in just eight days, but up to now has supported us with close to 
100,000 €! Another one is that driven by our open, vendor neutral 
approach, combined with our easy hacks, we have included code 
contributions from over 150 entirely new developers to the project, 
alongside localisations from over 50 localizers. The community has 
developed itself better than we could ever dream of, and first meetings 
like the project’s weekend or the QA meeting of the Germanophone group 
are already being organized.


What we have seen now is just the beginning of something very big. The 
Document Foundation has a vision, and the creation of the foundation in 
Germany is about to happen soon. LibreOffice has been downloaded over 
350,000 times within the first week, and we just counted more than 1,3 
million downloads just from our download system — not counting packages 
directly delivered by Linux distributors, other download sites or DVDs 
included in magazines and newspapers — supported by 65 mirrors from all 
over the world, and millions already use and contribute to it worldwide. 
With our participation in the Google Summer of Code, we will engage more 
students and young developers to be part of our community. Our improved 
release schedule will ensure that new features and improvements will 
make their way to end-users soon, and for testers, we even provide daily 
builds.


We are so excited by what has been achieved over the last six months, 
and we are immensely grateful to all those who have supported the 
project in whatever ways they can. It is an honour to be working with 
you, to be part of one united community! The future as we are shaping it 
has just begun, and it will be bright and excellent.


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Conference to be held in Paris this October

2011-03-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

LibreOffice Conference to be held in Paris this October
First annual project meeting from October 12th to 15th

The Document Foundation today announced the first annual LibreOffice 
Conference, which will be held in Paris from October 12th to 15th. 
Carrying on the tradition of previous OOoCon conferences, the 
LibreOffice Conference will be the event for those interested in the 
development of free office productivity software, open standards, and 
the OpenDocument format generally.


"We're proud of what we have achieved so far with LibreOffice and The 
Document Foundation. We are seeing a rapidly-growing ecosystem built on 
free software, and the LibreOffice Conference will be an exciting 
opportunity to meet our Community members, developers and hackers," says 
Charles Schulz, Steering Committee member of The Document Foundation and 
one of the organizers of this year's conference. "Paris has long been a 
strong supporter of free software and, following a fantastic release 
party in 2008, plans for another event in Paris were already being made 
during the last OOoCon. So, we're happy to announce our first conference 
taking place in the heart of France."


The LibreOffice Conference will host several tracks on various aspects 
of LibreOffice, including adoption, migration, development and 
interoperability. More information about the venue and a call for papers 
will be available soon.


The location for the LibreOffice Conference in 2012 will be decided by 
the Community in an open Call for Locations process, details about which 
will be announced soon.


The website for the LibreOffice Conference is at 
http://conference.libreoffice.org


Information on LibreOffice can be found at http://www.libreoffice.org

The home of The Document Foundation is at http://www.documentfoundation.org

About The Document Foundation

The Document Foundation has the mission of facilitating the evolution of 
the LibreOffice Community into a new, open, independent, and 
meritocratic organization over the next few months. An independent 
foundation is a better reflection of the values of our contributors, 
users and supporters, and will enable a more effective, efficient and 
transparent community. TDF will protect past investments by building on 
the achievements of the first decade, will encourage wide participation 
within the community, and will co-ordinate activity across the community.


Media Contacts

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[libreoffice-users] Thousands of donors contribute €50,000 in just eight days to The Document Foundation

2011-02-25 Thread Florian Effenberger
Thousands of donors contribute €50,000 in just eight days to The 
Document Foundation


LibreOffice Community accomplishes next major milestone
Ongoing donations to support marketing, infrastructure and development


The Community around LibreOffice, the free personal productivity suite, 
has accomplished the next major milestone in establishing The Document 
Foundation as a legal entity. In just eight days, some 2,000 donors from 
all over the world contributed €50,000 for the capital stock necessary 
to set-up the legal entity in Germany.


"We still can't believe it," says Florian Effenberger, Steering 
Committee member. "It happened in such a short period of time and was 
beyond our wildest expectations. You all really rock! On behalf of the 
Community, the Steering Committee would like to thank all the donors for 
their generous support."


The €50,000 collected will form the Foundation's paid-up capital, 
ensuring a permanent future for the organization after the legal 
paperwork is complete, based in Germany. The capital will be frozen 
assets for the Foundation: the funds cannot be spent, and we will be 
able to avail just the annual interest. All money donated from now on 
will actually bankroll our ongoing running costs for things such as 
marketing, hardware, infrastructure, attending trade shows, initial 
financing of merchandising material and, of course, developing new and 
exciting ideas.


"So we still need your support: Every donation helps to pay for our 
future operational running," Effenberger adds.


Details on how to donate to The Document Foundation and how the money 
will be spent are available at http://challenge.documentfoundation.org


Information about LibreOffice can be found at http://www.libreoffice.org
The home of The Document Foundation is at http://www.documentfoundation.org


About The Document Foundation

The Document Foundation has the mission of facilitating the evolution of 
the LibreOffice community into a new, open, independent, and 
meritocratic organization over the next few months. An independent 
Foundation is a better reflection of the values of our contributors, 
users and supporters, and will enable a more effective, efficient and 
transparent community. TDF will protect past investments by building on 
the achievements of the first decade, will encourage wide participation 
within the community, and will co-ordinate activity across the community.


Media Contacts

Florian Effenberger (Germany)
Mobile: +49 151 14424108 - E-mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org
Olivier Hallot (Brazil)
Mobile: +55 21 88228812 - E-mail: olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org
Charles H. Schulz (France)
Mobile: +33 6 98655424 - E-mail: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
Italo Vignoli (Italy)
Mobile: +39 348 5653829 - E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice Community starts 50,000 Euro challenge for setting-up its foundation

2011-02-16 Thread Florian Effenberger
LibreOffice Community starts 50,000 Euro challenge for setting-up its 
foundation


German-based model provides best stability and safety for users, 
adopters, developers and enterprises

Race for funds open until March 21st

The Internet, February 16th, 2011 - The community around LibreOffice, 
the free office productivity suite, today announced its fifty-thousand 
Euro challenge for setting-up The Document Foundation as a legal entity. 
The race for funds is open until March 21st 2011, which marks the 
beginning of Spring in the northern hemisphere. All users - especially 
enterprises - are invited to donate to the capital stock of the future 
foundation.


"After thorough investigation, the Steering Committee came to the 
conclusion that a foundation based in Germany would provide the best 
stability, not only for our users, but also for adopters, developers and 
enterprises. For achieving this stability, a capital stock of at least 
50,000 Euros is considered best practice in Germany," says Florian 
Effenberger, Steering Committee member of The Document Foundation. "Now 
that we have our first release of LibreOffice, which has been downloaded 
and installed all around the world, the time has come to legally 
establish the future home for our community".


All donations will be used for setting-up The Document Foundation, and 
after the fifty thousand Euros has been collected for the capital stock, 
donations over the top of that sum will be fed directly into the future 
foundation's budget to cover operating costs. Should the race for funds 
not succeed, The Document Foundation will use the donations to 
incorporate itself in a different country that requires less capital 
stock, such as the United Kingdom.


To achieve their ambitious goal of a Foundation in Germany in just five 
weeks, the community has set-up a dedicated website with detailed 
information at http://challenge.documentfoundation.org The site will 
also give adopters, community members and corporate sponsors a voice, 
and will have special features rolled out at the accomplishment of each 
donation milestone.


"We have seen wide support from many organizations, and the amount of 
volunteer work that has been put into The Document Foundation is just 
amazing. Without people donating their free time, knowledge and 
creativity to what will be the future home of LibreOffice, we wouldn't 
be where we are today. However, volunteer work alone can't fund the 
necessary capital stock, which is why we have started a public race for 
donations, especially targeting contributions from enterprises and 
public administrations adopting LibreOffice, and those interested in an 
independent, vital and growing ecosystem around free office productivity 
software", Florian Effenberger adds.


Information about LibreOffice can be found at http://www.libreoffice.org
The home of The Document Foundation is at http://www.documentfoundation.org

About The Document Foundation
The Document Foundation has the mission of facilitating the evolution of 
the OOo Community into a new, open, independent, and meritocratic 
organization within the next few months. An independent Foundation is a 
better reflection of the values of our contributors, users and 
supporters, and will enable a more effective, efficient and transparent 
community. TDF will protect past investments by building on the 
achievements of the first decade, will encourage wide participation 
within the community, and will co-ordinate activity across the community.


Media Contacts for TDF
Florian Effenberger (Germany)
Mobile: +49 151 14424108 - E-mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org
Olivier Hallot (Brazil)
Mobile: +55 21 88228812 - E-mail: olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org
Charles H. Schulz (France)
Mobile: +33 6 98655424 - E-mail: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
Italo Vignoli (Italy)
Mobile: +39 348 5653829 - E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [de-discuss] Re: Portable Version von LibreOffice veröffentlicht

2011-01-28 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-01-28 04.02:

If some of these German posts are of use for the user list, could you
post these in English as well? Maybe we could also take advantage of
news about the appearance of a portable version of LibreOffice on USB
stick.


the English PR is available in the list archives ;) It's just the PR 
translated into German you're refering to.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-15 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Ed,

Ed Naratil wrote on 2010-10-16 02.06:


It would sure be nice to be able to unsubscribe.Following info


if you have the digest, write to

users+unsubscribe-dig...@libreoffice.org

Otherwise, write to

users+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org

You will receive an e-mail you need to confirm, then you're unsubscribed.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-15 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-15 20.15:


Definitely an improvement, thanks! I sure appreciate your responsiveness.


thanks. ;)


Yes, it could be like the one on the openoffice.org website but with
unsubscribe mailto's as well. Are you referring here to putting a link
to that page in the message footer? Sounds like a plan! And it could
index into the FAQ, too.


Exactly. When that page is ready, removing the +help address, but rather 
pointing to that page could be helpful. Something like:


"Information on unsubscribing and accessing the archives are available 
at: ..."



I seem to remember somebody else mentioning this on the OOo users list,
but in any case we seem to be OK now.


Ok, let me know if it occurs again.


If you send a message to users-h...@openoffice.org, you'll see some
other commands that don't seem to be supported yet for the LibO list
management (at least from its own help). Some of them might be useful.


Oh, no, not right now, unfortunately. But we're working closely with the 
mlmmj developers to implement new features. In fact, one script written 
by my colleague Alex, which stripts HTML and attachments out of mails, 
already made it into their contrib tree.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-15 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Barbara,

Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-15 17.30:


In that case, to avoid awkward breaks, how about "E-mail to
users+h...@libreoffice.com for help with list usage, including how to
subscribe or unsubscribe." Or leave out the "including" phrase in my
original suggestion. Saying that's how to get help is accurate, and much
less confusing than implying that it will unsubscribe you.


I just did a small change - see the footer of this mail. Hope this is 
better understandable.



But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with
a dedicated mailing list page is good.


Could you expand on that, please?


I guess that having a page with all mailing lists available, including 
their URLs and archives is a good idea. But let's wait with that until 
our CMS is running -- the current listing on the website is just a 
temporary solution.



When I first tried, at the same time I subscribed here, I got an
"undelivered" message:


Strange... should work, and never heard about this error before.


... and the other command addresses (index, thread, etc.)?


Sorry?

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-15 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Barbara,

Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-15 00.20:


Since the community seems to have control over these messages, I'd like
to see the trailer say:

For help with list usage, including how to subscribe or unsubscribe,
please e-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org.


the problem is, that this is too long, as we had reports from Google 
Mail users complaining there is a line break after the +

So, we had to keep it rather short.

But let's see and improve the footer step by step. Maybe the idea with a 
dedicated mailing list page is good.



Since you seem to know what's going on here, is the discuss list
subscription working yet? Also, does the message number used in the +get


Err, sure, it always worked? discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org


track directly with the archive, or does it need to come from the
Return-Path header as for openoffice.org? Are analogs to the other ezmlm
command addresses planned?


At the moment, the Return Path header is the one containing the right 
ID, I guess.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Barbara Duprey wrote on 2010-10-14 22.32:

Clearly the message trailer is wrong; the correct link for unsubscribing
should be the actual "unsubscribe" one shown above. But the "help"
should also yield a message with details of the supported command
addresses, including how to unsubscribe. I haven't tried that yet --
does it not yet work?


the +help address is mentioned in the footer, as the unsubscription for 
digest and non-digest readers is different. The +help message explains it.


Florian

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[libreoffice-users] German mailing lists have been launched

2010-10-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

as a first test for providing infrastructure to local groups, the German 
mailing lists have been launched:


# annou...@de.libreoffice.org: German announcement mailing list
Subscription: announce+subscr...@de.libreoffice.org
Digest subscription: announce+subscribe-dig...@de.libreoffice.org
Archives: http://de.libreoffice.org/lists/announce/
Mail-Archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/annou...@de.libreoffice.org/

# disc...@de.libreoffice.org: German discussion mailing list
Subscription: discuss+subscr...@de.libreoffice.org
Digest subscription: discuss+subscribe-dig...@de.libreoffice.org
Archives: http://de.libreoffice.org/lists/discuss/
Mail-Archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@de.libreoffice.org/

# us...@de.libreoffice.org: German user support mailing list
Subscription: users+subscr...@de.libreoffice.org
Digest subscription: users+subscribe-dig...@de.libreoffice.org
Archives: http://de.libreoffice.org/lists/users/
Mail-Archive.com: http://www.mail-archive.com/us...@de.libreoffice.org/

More local lists will follow in the next days, so stay tuned. In 
addition, localized website content will be available in the near future.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

What do you mean by unsuccessful?
Did you receive the automatic reply that you have to confirm, before you 
get unsubscribed?


Are you receiving the normal mails or the digest?

Steve Martin wrote on 2010-10-14 19.00:

  Multiple attempts to unsubscribe by emailing to
users+h...@libreoffice.org have been unsuccessful.  But it's no big
deal.  I'll just keep unsubscribing daily until it works.  Have a good
day.  Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2010-10-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

To unsubscribe, e-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org

Al de Lge wrote on 2010-10-14 18.35:

To unsubscribe, e-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Digest of users@libreoffice.org issue 4 (36-37)

2010-10-12 Thread Florian Effenberger

Now you know the reason why I objected to digests... ;)

Mark wrote on 2010-10-12 01.41:

Please, please, please change the subject line to something more
relevant than "Re: Digest of"


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How many people out there?

2010-10-06 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Gianluca,

Am 06.10.2010 um 16:00 schrieb Gianluca Turconi:

> can we count ourselves in order to know how large is the subscriber
user base of this list?
>
> It's strangely quiet for being a "users support list". :)

we have approx. 160 subscribers at the moment. ;)

Florian

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[libreoffice-users] Hello, world!

2010-10-05 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, world!

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