[libreoffice-users] remote display

[Walther Koehler]

Dear LO-community,

I would like to run LO on my server and access this LO from a client via

b@client: ssh -X  a@server libreoffice file.odt

File.odt sits at the server.
This runs indeed libreoffice writer on the server, however the display shows up 
at the server screen.
So I tried
b@client: ssh -X  a@server libreoffice --display 1:0 file.odt
or even
b@client: ssh -X  a@server libreoffice --display b@client:1:0 file.odt
without success.
I could not find helpful information in the documentation. In contrast to other 
progs, LO does not allow the X-server output to tunnel back to the client via 
ssh.

linux, debian, X-server

I appreciate any comments

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Update a mailmerge file

[Walther Koehler]

Wkipedia english does not mention libre/openoffice in "Mail merge" at all, the 
german Version at least openoffice for "Serienbrief". Could someone more apt 
than I make an addendum?

Have a good tiem with LO

Walther

Am Sonntag, 15. August 2021 schrieb Michael H:
> (unrelated to your last comment.)
> 
> I looked in the latest Writer manual, and there is no "updating the source"
> instruction for mail merge chapter.  Considering "open Base first" is not
> exactly intuitive for making changes in Calc and seeing them in Writer...
> it possibly might be very helpful to somehow capture this in the next
> version of the Writer manual.
> 
> (Related to your last comments)
> 
> When changes in Calc directly didn't show up in the data table view in
> Writer, I had tried 'refreshing' in Base many times before this email, and
> expected the table view to show my new #1 item either at the top or bottom
> of the base table. Following the steps I listed,  "Rebuild" shows the new
> column and the new data in Base, and that data also now shows in the Writer
> data preview table.
> 
> I was noticing that when  I edited the calc file, it seemed to break the
> link in Writer and suddenly preview didn't work.  It took
> exiting LibreOffice completely then restarting writer before the data table
> links again, but it always matched the table view in Base, not my new data
> in Calc. I associated this (unproven) with Linux swap management or
> something similar, but I've really got no understanding why my system
> (ubuntu based) has a latency between updates in calc and views in Writer
> merge data preview, only that saving and quitting the program completely
> seems to eliminate the lack of cross-updates.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 12:44 PM Robert Großkopf 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Michael,
> > >
> > > But for anyone else following, here's the slightly amended suggestion:
> > > 1. Open the Base file used by the Writer merge file
> > > 2. (With Base still open, but not as an action from within Base, just
> > using
> > > a file manager) Open the source Calc file, Make your edits and save.
> >
> > You don't need to save them at this moment.
> > Rows, which appear in the table of Base, will be changed by "Refresh" in
> > the table (Data → Refresh).
> > New Rows won't appear directly in the table. Close the table and go to
> > View → Refresh Tables. Now new Rows will be shown.
> >
> > > 3. With Base still open, open the table related to the merge, and on the
> > > toolbar select "rebuild".
> > > 4. Save the Base file.
> >
> > Also you don't need to save the Base file. Nothing has been changed.
> > Base file will only connect from Calc to Writer. Or did there appear the
> > littel star in the Save symbol?
> >
> > > 4A. Close all LibreOffice files. (**)
> > > 5. Open the Writer merge file, and your changes should be present.
> > >
> > > (**) --- I use a Linux OS ... I've found that this close all office files
> > > step is required in Linux, but not always in Windows. Or more
> > specifically,
> > > I find that when I follow youtube videos about LibreOffice made from
> > > Windows, including 'close all Libreoffice' as a step after making updates
> > > elsewhere seems to make stuff work that just doesn't work for me like it
> > > does in the video.
> >
> > I'm using Linux (OpenSUSE 15.2) also. I haven't closed any file for
> > this. You only have t press "Refresh" for the table of the database in
> > the database browser of Writer.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Robert
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Re: [libreoffice-users] For macro: how to get current display (keyboard) language?

[Walther Koehler]

Try shell command

I use it with many usefull scripts

Walther

Am Dienstag, 4. Oktober 2016 schrieb Cor Nouws:
> Hi Kamil,
>
> Kamil Landa wrote on 03-10-16 12:40:
> > How to get the current language using on keyboard (actual display
> > language) in Libreoffice Basic? I want to create macro for Writer
> > which will do -> if current language is English do thing1, if current
> > language is Czech do thing2.
>
> No experience with that.
> I do know how to get the active locale in LibreOffice, but that prolly
> won't help?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Compatibility of LO Base with Access databases

[Walther Koehler]

My doctors office uses a dBase based system for administration, keeping 
patient records and so on. It has integrated LO for many purposes, i.e. 
medical letters. As I was told, reading those dbf files using scripts is easy 
(dbf_dump), modifying dbf files from outside the program however tedious, 
they use LO base for that purpose. Unfortunately, the SQL commands for dBase 
are limited.

Walther

 etc.Am Donnerstag, 4. August 2016 schrieb Girvin Herr:
> On 08/04/2016 09:16 AM, toki wrote:
> > On 02/08/2016 16:39, Ken Springer wrote:
> >>> Now that you mentioned dBase, you may, or may not, be aware that LO has
> >>> a dBase option.  But a limitation to it that I found is that older
> >>
> >> I didn't know this, but must admit dBase is probably not the best
> >> answer.
> >
> > For most individuals, dBase3 is adequate. Perhaps a little slow, but
> > with current hardware, not spectacularly so. However, the major
> > stumbling block is that there is even less LibO documentation for it,
> > than there is for Base.
> >
> > jonathon
>
> I used dBase in the 80s and I must assume that since it still seems to
> have a demand, that users are still out there and happy with it.  It did
> have some nice features, such as the programming capability, which is
> why I tried to import my files into LO rather than reinvent the wheel.
> I suspect most of the users are "on the other side of the pond", since I
> rarely hear of dBase users here in the US.  Then again, Fortran is still
> active too.  It takes a long time for that flywheel to coast to a stop.
>
> Girvin



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

look at your *.txt file: the previously hidden formated text appears as plain 
string.

enjoy LO

Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016 schrieb Luuk:
> On 03-05-16 19:13, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >>> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >>> in
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >>> simple way?
> >>
> >> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >> files.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
> > contain the hidden formated text.
> >
> > To make it very clear:
> > I do not care about the format information in the file.
> > I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> > before shipping.
>
> Are you saying that there are still 'hidden formated text' things in the
> textfile that is created when one does do 'File/SaveAs/.txt' ??
>
> ?



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Piet,

your makro is ingenious, short and effective, it does the job, than you very 
much, I am happy.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden
> Then oParSection.setString("")
>   End If
>   Loop
>
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
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> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Piet,

superb, a makro! I will try it later on.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements()
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden
> Then oParSection.setString("")
>   End If
>   Loop
>
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
> Piet van Oostrum <p...@vanoostrum.org>
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Walther Koehler]

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieben Sie:
> Does this sound like a workable approach if you were familiar with
> Emacs? If you were able to identify exactly what needs to be removed
> from content.xml, and sent me a fragment of a file to illustrate it, I
> might be able to specify a sequence of commands that you could use.

I posted the tag, which I think is the relevant, before:
> >>> blabla
I assume "P2" refers to printable, suppressing output on paper.
if you have a simple command line
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hi Robert
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
> >> Walther -
> >>
> >> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
> >> find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
> >> simple.)
> >
> > Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very
> > powerful editor.
> >
> > Walther
> >
> >> - Robert
> >>
> >> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> >>> Hallo,
> >>>
> >>> Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >>>>> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >>>>> text in
> >>>>
> >>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>>> simple way?
> >>>>
> >>>> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >>>> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >>>> files.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file
> >>> will contain the hidden formated text.
> >>>
> >>> To make it very clear:
> >>> I do not care about the format information in the file.
> >>> I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> >>> before shipping.
> >>>
> >>> Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
> >>> capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
> >>>
> >>> blabla
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>>
> >>> Walther
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>>>>> From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> >>>>>> Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> >>>>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear LO users,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> >>>>>> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >>>>>> text
> >>>>>
> >>>>> in a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> simple way?
> >>>>>> Is it possible by a macro?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
> >>>>>> file without
> >>>>>> hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you in advance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Walther



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Fwd: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Piet,

because your makro left over empty paragraph marks I added a few lines.

Walther

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Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated 
text in odt
Date: Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016
From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
To: Piet van Oostrum <pie...@pietvanoostrum.com>

Hi Piet,

superb, a makro! I will try it later on.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
> Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > Am Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2016 schrieb Piet van Oostrum:
>  > > Walther Koehler wrote:
>  > >  > Thank you.
>  > >  > Your procedure is principally what I need.
>  > >  > However, quite complicated for routine work.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Walther
>  > >
>  > > The first part (replacing hidden text with colored text) could be done
>  > > with a script.
>  >
>  > yes, and the whole procedure could be packed in a basic makro.
>  > The script can be called by a shell command within a makro, the replace
>  > functions realized with dispatcher commands.
>  >
>  > Let us try it.
>  >
>  > Walther
>
> Even simpler:
>
> Here is a Basic macro that just walks through the document, and deletes all
> hidden text. No unzipping, editing, etc. It just works inside the ODT
> document in LO.
>
> It only considers normal plain text, i.e. not inside tables, sections,
> frames, footnotes, etc. If you want that, these have to be specially coded.
>
> REM  *  BASIC  *
>
> Sub Main
>
> Dim oEnum   'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oPar
> Dim oSecEnum'com.sun.star.container.XEnumerationAccess
> Dim oParSection
>
> oEnum = ThisComponent.Text.createEnumeration()
> oTxt=ThisComponent.Text
> Do While oEnum.hasMoreElements() 
>   oPar = oEnum.nextElement()
>   If oPar.supportsService("com.sun.star.text.Paragraph") Then
>   oSecEnum = oPar.createEnumeration()
>   flag=0
>   Do While oSecEnum.hasMoreElements() 
>   oParSection = 
> oSecEnum.nextElement()
>   If oParSection.TextPortionType 
> = "Text" AND oParSection.CharHidden  
Then
>   oParSection.setString("")
>   else
>flag=1
>   End If 
>   Loop
>   if flag=0 then oTxt.removeTextContent(oPar)
>   End If
> Loop
>
> End Sub
> --
> Piet van Oostrum <p...@vanoostrum.org>
> WWW: http://pietvanoostrum.com/
> PGP key: [8DAE142BE17999C4]



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,
thanks for your reply.
But I dont want to use another editor.

Walther

Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Barry Smith:
> Notepad was still in Windows distributions the last time I was aware.
> Windows 7 included it, and i think Windows 10 still includes Notepad.
> If not, there is a free program named Notepad++ .
>
> Another fairly independent way to distribute documents is by outputting to
> PDF. Every platform that I know of supports PDF.
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com
>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lagin...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
> >Thanks for this information;
> >   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
> >
> >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> > list;
> >   I am not interested in changing.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> > formated text in odt)
> > To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for
> > several years now as my text editor.  After using the free version
> > (NoteTab Light) for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still
> > don't use any features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the
> > authors deserved something for their excellent work.
> >
> > You can find the free version here:
> > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
> >
> > I think you'll really enjoy it.
> >
> > -- Tim Deaton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> >
> > > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> > >
> > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed
> > > on all MsFt machines, but now not;
> > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> >
> > glad
> >
> > > to upload to you if you so wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear LO users,
> > >
> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >
> > in a
> >
> > > simple way?
> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> > >
> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > > without
> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Walther
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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Robert

Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Robert Funnell:
> Walther -
>
> Could you open your content.xml with Emacs and record a macro to
> find and remove the hidden text? (I'm not sure that qualifies as
> simple.)
Unfortunately, I am not used to emacs, although I know it is a very powerful 
editor.

Walther
>
> - Robert
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2016, Walther Koehler wrote:
> > Hallo,
> >
> > Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> >> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >> > in
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >> > simple way?
> >>
> >> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding
> >> (.txt) Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text
> >> files.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will
> > contain the hidden formated text.
> >
> > To make it very clear:
> > I do not care about the format information in the file.
> > I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file
> > before shipping.
> >
> > Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is
> > capable of removing certain xml tags in a file like
> >
> > blabla
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Walther
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> > > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> >> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> >> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> >> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear LO users,
> >> > >
> >> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> >> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted
> >> > > text
> >> >
> >> > in a
> >> >
> >> > > simple way?
> >> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> >> > >
> >> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the
> >> > > file without
> >> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> >> > >
> >> > > Thank you in advance
> >> > >
> >> > > Walther



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Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt)

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2016 schrieb Bruce Hohl:
> > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in
>
> a
>
> > simple way?
>
> File > Save :: Save as type = Text (.txt) OR Text - Choose Encoding (.txt)
> Thus, LO can be used to read, create and edit unformatted text files.

Yes, you are right, but it does not solve my problem. The text file will 
contain the hidden formated text.

To make it very clear:
I do not care about the format information in the file.
I do not want the content (the hidden formated characters) in the file before 
shipping.

Using linux, the command line program xpath might do the job. It is capable of 
removing certain xml tags in a file like

blabla

Regards

Walther

>
> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:37 PM, anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thanks for this information;
> >   some on this list might enjoying knowing about it.
> >
> >Since I think you sent this to me by mistake, am sending on to the
> > list;
> >   I am not interested in changing.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tim Deaton <t...@timdeaton.org>
> > Date: Mon, May 2, 2016 at 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: free text editor (was: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden
> > formated text in odt)
> > To: anne-ology <lagin...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> > I've been using NoteTab (from Fookes Software, in Switzerland) for
> > several years now as my text editor.  After using the free version
> > (NoteTab Light) for a few years, I upgraded to the paid version.  I still
> > don't use any features that aren't in the free version, but I figured the
> > authors deserved something for their excellent work.
> >
> > You can find the free version here:
> > http://www.notetab.com/notetab-light
> >
> > I think you'll really enjoy it.
> >
> > -- Tim Deaton
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/2016 2:39 PM, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> > If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> >
> > > you'll have a non-formatted document;
> > >if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
> > >
> > > The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed
> > > on all MsFt machines, but now not;
> > >I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be
> >
> > glad
> >
> > > to upload to you if you so wish.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> > > Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> > > Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> > > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear LO users,
> > >
> > > I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> > > Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text
> >
> > in a
> >
> > > simple way?
> > > Is it possible by a macro?
> > >
> > > (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> > > without
> > > hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance
> > >
> > > Walther
> >
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[libreoffice-users] no option to replace hidden formated text

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

replacing text with respect to a lot of properties is easy in LO.

However the replace function does not offer to find and replace hidden 
formated strings.

Has anybody an idea, why this is impossible?

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

[Walther Koehler]

Thank you for your quick response, but I do not want to remove the format 
information rather the the string itself.

Walther

the Am Freitag, 29. April 2016 schrieb anne-ology:
>If you're referring to eliminating the formatting, then I think
> you'll have a non-formatted document;
>   if so, then using a simple text document should do this.
>
>The only one I know that still exists is Notepad - once placed on
> all MsFt machines, but now not;
>   I still have it - saved from my older machine - & would be glad
> to upload to you if you so wish.
>
>
>
> From: Walther Koehler <walther.koeh...@posteo.de>
> Date: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 5:54 AM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> Dear LO users,
>
> I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
> Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in a
> simple way?
> Is it possible by a macro?
>
> (I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file
> without
> hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Walther



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[libreoffice-users] delete hidden formated text in odt

[Walther Koehler]

Dear LO users,

I would like to give away *.odt files without hidden formated text.
Do you have some advice how to remove the hidden (hard-)formatted text in a 
simple way?
Is it possible by a macro?

(I am aware that you can make hidden text invisible and print the file without 
hidden text on paper. I also know how to remove properties)

Thank you in advance

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO-Base - Autoreconnect

[Walther Koehler]

Hello list,

me too would like to have a reconnect:

When LO-Base the first connection to a dBase 
database (directory) has made, all the existing *.dbf files in that directory 
are recognized and shown as tables in *.odb.

However, if you add manually or by a third party program another *.dbf, it is 
not recognized until one terminates the running LO (usually with many open 
writer, calc files).

Is there a way other than by a makro (getTables()) to update the tables 
(=*.dbf file list) while in LO Base?

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] How to close *.dbf files in a Base (makro)

[Walther Koehler]

Hello list, high Andrew Pitonyak,

After an SQL UPDATE in a makro, the updated *.dbf is still marked as open
(in LINUX see fuser *.dbf), until the last instance of LO is closed. This is 
nasty, because I have usually many files open and want ot access the *.dbf by 
other progs. How do I close that file?

[Even
oDoc=dataSource.DataSourceDocument
oDoc.close
doesnt help (the *.odb wasnt open anyway)]

Walther

Andrew, thank you for your makro guide!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: mimetype=text/csv opened in writer

[Walther Koehler]

in Linux call
file 
to see what the system assumes for mimetype.

Have a good day.

Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015 schrieb Cley Faye:
> 2015-09-16 10:50 GMT+02:00 Kamil Jońca :
> > Are there any rules which decide "this csv is to open with writer, and
> > that by calc?"
>
> ​On what OS ?​
> At least on Windows and most Linux, it' the OS that decide what application
> is used to open a file. On Linux it's mostly driven by mime types, while on
> Windows the filename extension play a major role.
> As far as I know, after installation, LibreOffice will not register itself
> to handle different file types.
> ​For example, on one of my installation (Debian Linux with KDE), the
> text/csv file type is associated with, in that order, LOCalc​, some basic
> text editors, LOWriter, some file viewers. LibreOffice have no saying in
> this.
>
> ​To help, it would be useful to know more about your system, and if you did
> install/uninstall software recently that might have caused this behavior.
> In any case, the fix most likely lies in the system configuration.​



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spreadsheets

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Richard,

its in german and made for physicians, but it might give you an idea,
how to set up such a spreadsheet:

http://resmedicinae.sourceforge.net/manuals/EUR/eur.html
GNU Free Documentation License

Yours

Walther

Am Montag, 15. Juni 2015 schrieb Mike Scott:
 On 15/06/15 08:45, Richard Brown wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am trying to create a spreasheet that will track my budget. I want to
  have a form that will insert a payment every four weeks or monthly by
  date. Is this possible to do please?
 
  Thanks

 Probably.

 But might you not be better off with something like gnucash that's
 designed specifically for such jobs? (And as free as LO.)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sphinx - voice translation - Linux

[Walther Koehler]

High Eric,

thank you for that information. I was trying to get a speech recognition 
system running for some time.
I have been using the IBM-line of speech recognition ViaVoice/Nuance under 
Win98 with some success. Now, I planned to use it in VirtualBox.

-Do you have experience with ViaVoice, are there reasons to prefer 
NaturalSpeaking?

-Why did you choose KVM over VirtualBox?

Have a good day

Walther

Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014 schrieb Eric:
 On 12/2/2014 3:08 PM, charles meyer wrote:
  Hi Tom,
 
  I spoke with someone who uses Linux and they shared that Sphinx -
  voice translation is new so many may not have tried it yet.
 
  Sorry for jumping the gun, so to speak.

 It's speech recognition, not voice translation. If I throw you off the
 top of the building, I'm going to hear your voice. If I push you near
 the edge of the roof, I would hear your speech..

 Sphinx has been around for at least 15 years in different forms. It has
 been, and probably always will be a system designed for IVR (interactive
 voice response, speak or press one to get ignored by a customer service
 representative). It is not and never will be a system for
 general-purpose speech recognition.

 The only useful speech recognition packages are NaturallySpeaking with a
 not very close runner-up of Windows speech recognition. Google speech
 recognition would be in the running if it wasn't bound to a very limited
 number of apps with no user accessible grammars. I'm currently
 experimenting with running Windows in a KVM virtual machine, running
 NaturallySpeaking there and find a way to see the output of
 NaturallySpeaking back to the Linux host OS.  If I can get the audio
 stream clean enough, it looks like a promising technique for adding
 speech recognition to Linux

 Now all I need some help to figure out what I don't know about injecting
 keystrokes into linux and may be help with fixing up KVM so it passes
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: rtf files

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

I am using intensively shell scripts for example to look up printing dates in 
a large number of files. With a few lines of code (and with sed an unzip) one 
can quickly extract the information from .odt files due to the well defined 
format.

Yours
W. K.

 orAm Donnerstag, 20. November 2014 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Interesting lack of links to any documentation there.

 Also i still think that most people are going to find full words and widely
 used abbreviations MUCH easier to read than clever 1-4 letter abbreviations
 that are pretty much unique to the context.  We are obviously going to
 carry on disagreeing on that.

 With the Rtf file it was almost impossible to spot wherewhat the actual
 contents was.  With Xml the coding tags are clearly defined and limited.
 It's much easier to extract the actual words-on-the-page - even for a human
 without the benefit of so much as a simple text-editor's colour-coding.


 Also ODF 1.0/1.1 has been an established ISO format since 2006.  Tons of
 programs are able to implement it as per that ISO specification and set
 that as a default.

 Rtf never quite got that far.  Almost all of it's implementations are quite
 different from each other.  It's never been much of a standard.  You can
 grumble that it's everyone else's fault as much as you like but that
 doesn't improve the implementation in anything.  You never quite know what
 to expect when opening an Rtf in any program other than whatever it was
 written with.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 20 November 2014 09:57, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote:
  Cley Faye:
 
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-
 
  v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1415854_253892949
 
  So, somehow arbitrary BASE64-encoded data are fine in ODF yet an obstacle
  in RTF?
 
   http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-
 
  v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1417966_253892949
 
  It is not documented there: it says it can be an arbitrary string with no
  effect defined.
 
  
  \cf0\kerning1\dbch\af6\langfe2052\dbch\af7\afs24\alang1081\loch\f4\fs24\
 
  lang1036
 
  \cfNForeground color (default is 0). N specifies the color as an
  index of the color table.
  \kerningNPoint size (in half-points) above which to kern character
  pairs. \kerning0 turns off kerning.
  \dbchThe text consists of double-byte characters.
  etc.
 
   RTF was changed on numerous occasion in non-retrocompatible ways,
 
 
  examples?
 
   accross several MS tools (namely MS Word and Wordpad) you get
 
  completely different results for the same file
 
  Different features supported give different results. Yet Arial 10pt red
  will stay Arial 10pt red everywhere, so the format definitely works.
 
   A RTF file is less human-readable than the content.xml file in an ODT
 
 
  XML isn't more readable than RTF.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing Reports from BASE

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Peter

just another proposal:

sub printreport()

Dim oDoc as Object
Dim arg(0) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue

oDoc=ThisComponent
arg(0).name = Name
arg(0).value =   myprinter   
oDoc.printPages(arg())
end sub

Yours
Walther

Am Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 schrieb Peter Goggin:
 On 28/10/14 15:01, Marion  Noel Lodge wrote:
  Hi Peter,
 
  A macro similar to this should do what you want -
 
  Sub PrintReport()
   ThisDatabaseDocument.ReportDocuments.getbyname(name of your
  report).open()
  End Sub
 
  Then edit your Menu form, double click on the Print button and under
  Events
 
  | 'Mouse button pressed', link the button to the PrintReport() sub.  Then
 
  when you run your application, clicking on the button should fire your
  report.
 
  Noel
  --
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  lodg...@gmail.com
 
  On 28 October 2014 13:24, Peter Goggin petergog...@bigpond.com wrote:
  I have a report run from a push button on a menu form. I can print it
  from the screen, but in Access I was able to program a push button to
  print id directly.  Is this possible in BASE? I cannot find any
  reference to this.
 
  Regards
 
 
  Peter Goggin
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Need help with Base

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo Wolfgang, hallo LO-users

may I ask a question in line with that thread:

a few month ago, I failed installing LO-base with PostgreSQL-DB when I 
stumbled over the input request
URL of data source ?
Help will not help.
I suppose something like
sdbc:postgresql:dbfile
is wanted, however
missing = after test in connection string

What format should that URL have?
Some examples of formally correct URL would help.
What is a possible correct driver name?

Thank you for your help

Walther

Debian wheezy/PostgreSQL paket installed. LO 4.1.3.2


Am Montag, 5. Mai 2014 schrieb Wolfgang Keller:
  I'm new user of LO Base, we are transitioning from MS Access, and I
  need to redesign our db from it.

 One word of advice based on experience:

 Avoid use of the built in database.

 Use a proper client-server RDBMS. Preferrably PostgreSQL, as it's
 reliable and the driver comes with LO.

 Otherwise you *will* regret it the day your data has gone to Nirvana.

 Sincerely,

 Wolfgang



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[libreoffice-users] spadmin GUI will be removed

[Walther Koehler]

High folks,

just read that the spadmin printer administration tool is to be removed in 
future releases of LO. I rely on that tool, especially because GNU/Debian 
cups has only this awful slow and unpractical browser interface and since KDE 
removed the kcmshcell printers facility.

In a small office network one has to have a handy GUI tool for the users.

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using LibreOffice on the command line to batch convert .htm files to .html files

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

a little warning (GNU/Linux):
Dont use headless soffice while soffice is running in a visible window. It 
might screw up your window dimensions, when opening the next window i.e. in 
writer. I had soffice headless run by a script in the background for faxes 
and it drove me crazy. Now I am using an older version of LO in parallel for 
headless fax spooling.

Yours
Walther

Am Donnerstag, 10. April 2014 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Ahh, just spotted the give-away .exe so it sounds like you are using
 Windows.  It is still worth trying the --help tag to see if you do get a
 quick-help cheat-sheet.

 Let us know either way! :)
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 10 April 2014 14:26, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi :)
  We call it headless mode.  Errr, which OS are you using?  Is it a
  Windows or a GnuLinux or Mac?
 
  Headless mode can be scripted and there might even be a thread in the
  archives that shows a decent script worth copying.  I think the better
  way is to try using LibreOffice on the command-line and get it doing more
  and more until you've figured it out.  For example does
  soffice
  or
  lowriter
  work from the command-line?  On my GnuLinux both work but some OSes
  might be limited to using just 1 of those.  Then try, for example
  lowriter --help
  to get a quick cheat-sheet of options.
 
  Hopefully people on this list can help but there might also be
  documentation at
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and
 _Resources#Programmers or scroll up a bit to see what is in the Corporate
  Users section of the page.
 
 
  Attachments don't get to the mailing-list anyway!  You can use Nabble to
  upload them to a central place so that people can choose to look if they
  want.
 
 
  I would try to keep the original documents in MS format so that if there
  is any problem with some tiny subset of all the ones being converted then
  you can focus on those and do them with a bit more finesse.  However from
  Doc, Xls etc to Odt, Ods etc should work reasonably well.
 
  It's the DocX, XlsX etc that is a bit more unpredictable thanks to MS's
  constant changing of that format (currently on at least 3 different
  transistional versions and at least 1 strict none of which seem to
  fully comply with their ISO promise).  Even with those i think a
  batch-process using a scripted headless mode is the best plan and then
  deal with individual oddities later.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
  On 10 April 2014 13:30, Joe B paperba...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  This is my first post.
 
  I am working on migrating a website.  I am trying to convert many files
  written in an old version of MS Word, which were then saved as old
  Microsoft 2002/2003 XML files.  The files were saved using an .htm
  extension.  The files are filled with Microsoft xml crud. (I will just
  refer to them as .htm files for the rest of this e-mail)
 
  I found a simple solution, in simply opening the file in LibreOffice
  Writer, and re-saving the file in HTML Document (Writer) (.html) format.
  Now the files work great.
 
  I don't want to do this one file at a time obviously, as there are
  hundreds
  of these .htm files.  I am trying to figure out a way to do this for
  multiple files in a folder...I think the term is batch processing.
 
  In other words, have a script that will:
  1. iterate through each .htm file in a folder
  2. open the file in LibreOffice Writer
  3. save the .htm file in HTML Document (Writer)(.html) format
  4. close the file
  5. iterate over all the remaining files in the folder until all files
  have had their formats changed
 
  Is there a way to do this via a command line script.  Or by creating a
  batch file?
 
  I'm sorry, I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the command line or
  batch
  files.  I know how to open LibreOffice Writer.exe from the command line
  with one argument, which will open that document, but that's about it.
 
  I have some experience in other scripting languages, like Python, Perl,
  etc, but not windows scripting.  I am having a very difficult time
  getting this to work in Python, so I thought I would come here and try
  to ask for guidance.
 
  I could attach a copy of one of the .htm files that I am converting if
  that
  would help, but don't want to attach a file in my very first e-mail.
 
  thank you,
  Joe
  paperba...@gmail.com
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] comment-807

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

my comment would be:

Shouldnt we speak a common language?

when talking to your government, would you like to be forced to speak a 
certain dialect and even pay for that? And the dialect is changing once and 
again without notice by the people, who are charging you.

As our English is a free and open standard independent of company interests so 
it should be on the technical level of communication.

Walther


Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2014 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Brilliant!  Thanks :))  I did eventual post a fairly long response but
 your shorter suggestion would be a better one to add and it's more
 likely that people would read it.

 The main one that is freaking me out is the extremely lengthy MS post
 which i probably wont even reach.  Most of the pro-MS posts are trying
 to create delays.  Actually i've gone though 10 out of 15 pages of
 comments and only found maybe half dozen pro-MS posts.  So it's very
 positive reading and some of the posts have interesting links
 Thanks and regards from
 Tom :)

 On 27 February 2014 22:56, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Tom
 
  The author does not acknowledge there are many applications that can
  properly interpret ODF formats. Several of these applications are free. I
  would point out with links if possible the main download pages for LO,
  AOO, and Calligra. The cost of using obtaining any these is $0 (US
  keyboard). The only costs to the organization are for deployment,
  training, and rewriting macros.
 
  Note Office XP is scheduled to be unsupported in the near future. I think
  about same time that Windows XP becomes an orphan. That only leaves MSO
  2007 and 2010 as versions that poorly support ODF formats. AFAIK, MS can
  issue a patch/upgrade to allow these versions to properly parse the
  current ODF standard. This is an internal problem for MS not the UK
  government. If MS does not want to abide by UK rules and requirements the
  UK government should say good riddance.
 
  Most of the professional arguments I have seen are about macros. Macros
  are a well-known attack vector and should be avoided in normal office
  documents including spreadsheets if at all possible. Often for
  Writer/Word documents and well designed template well handle what many
  macros are used for.
 
  On 02/27/2014 03:58 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
  Hi :)
  Aaarrrgh.  I've been busily trying to deal with the FUD or
  ill-informed comments on the UK Govs proposal to set ODF, and only ODF
  as standard format for editable word-processed documents.  But this
  one is such a long comment that i find it difficult to summarise or
  deal with at all!
  http://standards.data.gov.uk/comment/807#comment-807
  Suggestions would be welcomed a long as they manage to stay polite and
  cool and maybe a bit posh.  Here goes ...
 
 
  The proposal premise is flawed.
 
 
  Personal Opinion
 
 
  The users are being compromised by this overtly technical discussion
  over proprietary versus open formats that seems to have been sparked
  by this Cabinet Office challenge.
 
 
  For the average user, there is no distinction around document formats.
 
 
  The Government department user wants to be able to create, collaborate
  and distribute the most effective and well formed information
  internally and externally to citizens and business users.
 
  The citizen wants to be able to respond and interact with the
  Government in the simplest and most effective way.
 
  The choice of appropriate software for both user groups is governed
  directly by these fundamentals, not by the type of document format
  that is produced. Until now! By positively discriminating against the
  Open Office XML format, The Cabinet Office is proposing to force tens
  of thousands of users (internal  citizens) who have older versions of
  MSFT office to upgrade or to find alternative Office type software. As
  a citizen I do not just interact with the Government, I have work to
  do and social activities which require interaction and collaboration
  too. Am I supposed to also start creating documents for sharing with
  my local club and request that all participants also upgrade or
  otherwise change their software to access these open documents. The
  answer is yes if this proposal in current form gains any further
  traction. Please stop and think hard about the short to medium term
  consequences of this proposal.
 
  Professional Opinion.
 
  The proposal contains a statement that Users must not have costs
  imposed upon them due to the format in which editable government
  information is shared or requested There have consequently been
  numerous comments on this forum regarding the perceived cost burden to
  run MSFT Office. I would seriously question the premise of no cost.
  How or why is this realistic and why therefore is it included in the
  original challenge? This, I believe is another deliberate attempt at
  positive discrimination. The Government is freely able to impose cost
  burden 

Re: [libreoffice-users] comment-807

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Jim

sure you and anybody can use it - with no license fees :-)

Walther

Am Freitag, 28. Februar 2014 schrieb Jim Seymour:
 On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:12:13 +0100
 Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote:

 [snip]

  As our English is a free and open standard independent of company
  interests so it should be on the technical level of communication.

 [snip]

 Brilliantly-put, Walther!

 May I have your permission to use that in a .sig line?  With
 attribution, of course.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: “No default printer found. Please choose a printer and try again”

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom and list,

recreating the user profile might work, but sometimes one would like to know 
what is wrong. So, is there a manual explaining the format of 

registrymodifications.xcu

Which part of LO is modifying the file?
(I have the problem that calling LO by a command line headless while another 
instance of LO is running, the windaow parameters are changed for the next 
window to be opened)

Sincerely

Walther

for the Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2014 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 This guide helps you find where the User Profile is on any Operating
 System, even Vista (so with Win7 it should be really easy)
  *  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

 Renaming the User Profile rather than deleting it means you can still
 copy back any useful stuff that might have been in templates,
 galleries, backups or anything else.  When LO can't find the User
 Profile it just creates a fresh new one.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


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  On 01/14/2014 08:42 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:
  Le 14/01/2014 12:55, Yanis Zavakos a écrit :
 
  Hi Yanis,
 
  Were you able to print using a previous version of LO with the same
  printer connected via USB on the same operating system ?
 
 
  Alex
 
  I fixed this, once on a Windows system and several time on Linux systems,
  by renaming the user profile that LO creates for you. There is printer
  information listed in there.
 
  Sometimes the information in the profile gets mess up.  I have had that
  happen to me several times in the past.  Once I have a working profile, I
  back it up to save the data there.  There is some useful information in
  those files/folders, if you have a need to look at it.
 
  I do not remember where that set of folders/files is kept on Win7.  It
  may be a hidden folder, like it is in Linux.  But once you find that,
  RENAME it by adding -old to it or something like that.  DO NOT delete
  it.  Then when you restart LO, a new profile should be created.
 
 
 
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] I love LO 4.1.3.2

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

Setting up a new wheezy system and copying the LO-user-dir in my home 
directory, downloading the actual version of LO from the ocfficial place, I 
could start LO and run it as I was used to it. No key changes, no bugs, no 
nasty change  in design etc. Even macros, dictionaries, all was working 
right as expected. Thats the way I love it.

(In contrast to wheezy, where fundamental packages simply disappeared 
(capisuite), weird pop ups, new designs (from right to left, .. I still have 
a lot of work to do, until its my system again.

Walther 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Scaling with respect to display resolution

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Matthias + all users,

I had a problem possibly related to your problem with the display size of a 
writer document working with kde/gnu-Linux.

It seems, as when any .odt file stores the size of the window in the file.
However, if you start (while libreoffice is running)

soffice --writer --headless -pt printer
 
any file newly opened file will be displayed in a reduced window.


I noticed, that 
registrymodifications.xcu
is changed. However, manipulating this file does not help, because
this file will be updated every 5 minutes. Which process is responsbel for 
thet? And wher do I get further information on that nasty behaviour.

Yours

Walther



Am Sonntag, 4. August 2013 schrieb Matthias Nagel:
 Hello,

 if I select 100% scaling in LibreOffice Writer the sheet appears much
 bigger on the display than in reality. I use Linux X.org 11.0 with a KDE
 environment and xdpyinfo reports

 screen #0:
 dimensions:1680x1050 pixels (331x207 millimeters)
 resolution:129x129 dots per inch

 which is correct. Any other program (Gimp, PDF viewer, Inkscape) that deals
 with real sizes behaves correctly. That means, if I create an object with
 a length of 1cm and I put a ruler in front of my display, the object really
 appears as 1cm.

 It seems that LibreOffice always assumes a display resolution of 75dpi. Is
 there any option to change this behaviour?

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[libreoffice-users] usable area in writer window

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

using the print layout only part of the screen area limited by the scales is 
used for the printable (white) area for text input. In my case with 
magnification set to 100% there is horizontally a 269 mm shaded stripe on the 
right, the available writable area has 261 mm width and on the left a 5 mm 
shaded stripe.

Why is the usable area limited that much? (reserved space for possible 
comments?)

KDE gnu/Linux LO 4.0

best regards

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] writer macro record function missing

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,
look up

extra/options/libreoffice/extended

W.K.

Am Samstag, 3. August 2013 schrieb MissKeating:
 Using LO-writer Version 3.6.1.2 (Build ID: e29a214), the unhelpful
 help says that in order to record a macro, one should: Choose *Tools -
 Macros - Record Macro*.

 Under *Tools - Macros -- *there are just 3 live options: *Run Macro --
 Organize Macros -- Organize Dialogs. *A fourth, Digital Signature, is
 grayed out.

 There is no *Record *facility, either at the expected menu level, or
 under *Run*or *Organize*.

 It is hard to see the relevance, but for completeness:this is all
 happening on an Acer laptop running Curtains 7; 2 GHz P6100; 3 mB L3
 cache; 4 gB.

 If one ever managed to generate a macro, then there would be this
 problem: *To save the macro, first select the object where you want the
 macro to be saved in the Save macro in list box.* What is an object
 in this context? Is it what we would know as a subdirectory, or is there
 yet another new level of understanding to be mastered here?

 trj



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Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Amit,

I am very much appreciate your opinion and it is absolutely true. As a user a 
rather want to have these little nasty bugs eliminated, still in LO. (i.e. 
spelling correction, ..). You dont need to reinvent the wheel every month.

Atlhough I work in totally different business, I made the same experience as 
you mentioned for programmers. The pharma industry wants to put new products 
in the market with exorbitant prices, dicouraging the old drugs with known 
side effects and repeat the cycle before the side effects of the new ones 
become apparent.

Walther

Am Samstag, 27. Juli 2013 schrieb Amit Choudhary:
 Hi Tom,

 I have been programming since 1987. I have all my degrees in computer
 science/networking. I have worked for companies like Cisco systems, Juniper
 networks and have turned down offers from companies like Google and
 Microsoft for one reason or other.

 This whole software industry is going in the wrong direction. Actually, by
 now we should have been done by all the software (all the necessary
 software developed and installed and used, no bugs, etc.

 We need to beat Microsoft because we do not want to pay for Office suite.

 The best way of doing this is to release stable versions only and this can
 be done by increasing the QA cycle period.

 I do not release buggy software unless it has been approved by management.
 And I have not released any software that's gonna hurt the customer even if
 I have to get into discussions with managers, directors, etc.

 This whole idea of releasing software frequently is a scam, because work
 doesn't get done properly in a small time window. No one gets any time for
 innovation and everyone is just interested in the release. And in the end,
 the software dies down because the frequent release does not fix things
 properly and introduces new bugs and over time all these quickfixes kill
 the product.

 THERE IS NO DEMAND FROM CUSTOMERS FOR FREQUENT RELEASES. THE DEMAND IS FROM
 PEOPLE WHO ARE SOFTWARE ANALYSTS AND THEY WANT SOMETHING TO DO AND HENCE
 THEY WANT FREQUENT RELEASES. IT IS A BIG SCAM.

 I use around 5-6 external softwares and if everyone is releasing something
 every month then it becomes a headache to me.

 RELEASING ONLY TWICE A YEAR IS VERY FOOD.

 THE BIGGEST RISK OF RELEASING FREQUENTLY IS THAT ORIGINAL PROBLEMS ARE NOT
 SOLVED PROPERLY AND QUICKFIXES MAKE MANAGING THE SOFTWARE COMPLICATED AND
 IN THE END THE DEVELOPERS GIVE UP AND THE PRODUCT IS SHELVED.

 AND ALL THIS HAPPENS WITH PAID SOFTWARE TOO.

 Amit

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  Hi :)
  I think with Base it's better to stay with older branches.  The 3.6.7
  might be better.  if the 4.0.3 works for you then stick with that.
 
  Sadly there are still not many devs working on Base.  It's not flashy
  enough!
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
  
   From: la10...@iperbole.bologna.it la10...@iperbole.bologna.it
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 10:31
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3
  
  
  Unfortunately, the 3rd digit rule doesn't work as goog as expected...
  I use report builder in base, 4.0.3.3 version. Download 4.0.4 and
  report builder no more works (crash in opening).
  
  thanks anyway for developers work, I remember this is a free sw, at
 
  the
 
  end
  
  Federico Quadri
  
  Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk ha scritto:
   Hi :)
 That 3rd digit is roughly the equivalent of Service pack.  So
   usually the higher it is the more stable it is.  Of course even just
   bug-patches and fixes can sometimes introduce unexpected problems
   that might not get caught by QA.
  
 The best answer, imo, is to keep a very stable version that you
   are happy enough with on all the machines you look after especially
   ones that have limited access or that you can't reach easily.  Then
   on 1 machine find some way of being able to test-drive an occasional
   beta-test versions before it gets released.  Preferably do about 1
   per branch.  The problem is that things you might care about deeply
   might not even be getting used by other people at all.  So it's only
   you that might notice.  So if you didn't test-drive then the problem
   might never be found.  Also it's better to do your testing on a beta
   release rather than a full release because it's during the early
   beta stage that the most devs are the most focussed on the 1 single
   version and trying to solve the most problems quickly.  Also it's
   when the fewest other people are making bug-reports.
  
 There are various ways you could make sure you have access to 1
   version for use for work that has a dead-line and another version
   that you can just use to try things out and make sure it all works.
  
 Regards from
 Tom :)
  
   
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  To: 

[libreoffice-users] LO crash switching from page view

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

please confirm my observation:

Create a writer document with first page consisting of paragraph marks, half 
of them hard formatted hidden, on 2nd page single letter i.e. A.

Switching to page view shows the A  in the middle of a single page, when 
switching back to normal edit mode LO crashes.

LO  4.0.4.2 (also observed in LO 3.5.5.2)
Debian Linux

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Automatic sizing of documents in single window

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

I have a question in that context:

How does LO (writer) determines the window size while opening a file?
I know, that one can set the page size and found, that LO stores in some way 
the window size of a file for display.
However, this is overridden when I run LO in command line mode (for printing, 
translation etc in a bash script). Thereafter all files newly openend in a 
distorted (small) window. I tried to manipulate the
registrymodifications.xcu
However, in regular intervals its overridden by someone else (LO?).
Thus, every time I open a file, I have to change the window size manually.

(Debian Linux, KDE 3.5, LO 3.5.5.2, 4.0.4.2)

Walther

Am Montag, 22. Juli 2013 schrieb jumper46:
 Is there a function to automatically size several documents (as they are
 brought into focus) into a single display window?  In Windows, one is
 adding panes to the window.  I wish  to eliminate having to resize every
 document each time I add or remove another in the display.

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[libreoffice-users] LO crash switching from page view

[Walther Koehler]

Here a more precise formulation of my former posting:

Hallo,

please confirm my observation:

Create a writer document with first page consisting of simply one paragraph 
mark per line, the lower half of them hard formatted hidden, on 2nd page 
single letter i.e. A.

Switching to page view shows the A  in the middle of a single page, when 
switching back to normal edit mode LO crashes.

LO  4.0.4.2 (also observed in LO 3.5.5.2)
Debian Linux

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

if you are with cups on Debian or similar configuration use

lpoptions your_printer -o media=A4

in a shell script

Walther

Am Dienstag, 23. Juli 2013 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 I find that tricky too actually.  Everyone in this country seems to have
 their printers configured to print on US letter despite actually using A4. 
 Then if someone sends them an A4 page to print onto the A4 it comes out as
 2 pages with just a tiny bit of the page printed at the top of the next
 sheet. 

 On my own machines, well the company's machines, i go around and set them
 to print on A4 but then if a new machine arrives i have no idea whether
 it's trying to print to A4 or what.  Also what about new users logging in
 at a machine they haven't used before?  Are they now on US Letter again or
 not? 


 It seems that with LibreOffice it always seems to know that A4 should be
 being used.  None of this messing around.  Regards from
 Tom :) 

 
  From: Jean Milot milot.j...@gmail.com
 To: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013, 15:32
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing problems
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I haven't problem with the drivers.
 
 I have about 20 printers configured.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Jean
 
 
 
 2013/7/23 Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com
 
  On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 08:55:07 -0400, Jean Milot milot.j...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hello,
 
  I search how  to :
 
  - configure all the printers with A4 by defaulr
  - configure all the printers with postcript level and not PDF
 
  And somebody know why with CUPS, i need to reload the printers
 
  Fichier  - Paramètrage de l'imprimante
  ( FIle - Printer setting )
 
  Thanks for your help.
 
  I work on debian with CUPS on an other server.
 
  LO : last version
 
  Sincerely,
 
  Jean
 
 
   Jean,
 
  To manage your printers if the OS is having problems use localhost:631
  get to the CUPS admin. Findig the correct driver can be tricking. For
  example some Konica-Minolta printers have the correct driver listed
  under Minolta.
 
  I do not know why you have to reload the printers unless the wrong
  driver is installed.
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling correction

[Walther Koehler]

Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013 schrieb Steve Edmonds:
 On 2013-07-12 05:21, Fred James wrote:
  Walther Koehler wrote:
  Salute, LO-fans,
 
  I have a problem with spell check:
  given:
 
  This is a rong sntence with man mistokes.
 
  spell check f7
  marks with a red underline what should be changed.
  So far so well.
 
  but
  1) When adding manually w before rong and pressing change, spell
  check
  will jump back to the start of the paragraph and start checking it again
  while deleting all hard-formats (like bold) in that very paragraph.
 
  2) When adding manually y at the end of man, the next red mark ist
  not mistokes but a black m and red istokes. Now you can
  replace istokes with mistakes, however the text will read as
  mmistakes.
  This shift of the red mark ist continued with the following words. This
  misbehaviour occurs only, when two incorrect words follow each other.
 
  Debian Linux, LO 4.0.4 (download 11.07.13), checked with german.
 
  Can someone confirm this? In that case, I would submit a bug (I
  screened the
  bug list already without finding a reference).
 
  Walther
 
  Walther Koehler
  Perhaps I am not doing this the way you are?  But I copied/pasted
  This is a rong sntence with man mistokes
  into a new LO text document and ran spell check on it with the end
  result of
  This is a wrong sentence with man mistakes 
  without encountering any difficulties.
 
  I don't see a way to manually add a w within the spell check dialog
  box ... perhaps I am just not looking in the right place?
  Regards
  Fred James

 Hi Walther, are you pressing f7 to make the corrections. On 3.6 I lose
 any bold formatting, but I do not encounter the other problems Fred has.
 Steve

Hi Steve,

sorry, I have given not the best example (I had not switched dictionary so on 
my PC man was considered correct). Please use something like

This is a rong sntence with munn mistokes.

with two consekutive wrong words and correct it by typing an additionally 
letter at the end of munn. The next red mark will be m (black) istokes 
(red).

The 1st error (loss of bold and other hard formats in the paragraph) also 
happens, when one tries to correct outside the red mark in the upper window 
of spell check.

Thank you for your response.

Walther

 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling correction

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

thanks a lot

A laugh a day
keeps the doctor away.

be careful when correcting laugh

Walther


Am Freitag, 12. Juli 2013 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Top left box of the spell-check dialogue-box shows the context of the
 spelling mistook.  It lets me edit in there and then i click the Change
 button.  I might be doing something rong there tho.  Who needs the w in
 rong anyway?  It's quite a quiet w and possibly over-rated. 

 Regard from

 Tom :) 

 
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 To: Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net
 Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
 
 snip /
 
  Perhaps I am not doing this the way you are?  But I copied/pasted
      This is a rong sntence with man mistokes
  into a new LO text document and ran spell check on it with the end
  result of
      This is a wrong sentence with man mistakes 
  without encountering any difficulties.
 
  I don't see a way to manually add a w within the spell check dialog
  box ... perhaps I am just not looking in the right place?
  Regards
  Fred James
 
 Hi Walther, are you pressing f7 to make the corrections. On 3.6 I lose
 any bold formatting, but I do not encounter the other problems Fred has.
 Steve
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spelling correction

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tink,

I dont understand? Could you not reproduce my obervation?
I used LO 4.0.4.2 and hard formats will be erased.


Walther


Am Freitag, 12. Juli 2013 schrieb Tinkerer:
 Walther

 In LO 4.04.2 there is no alteration of Bold type.
 Your other error involving the added m is still there though.

 Tink.



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[libreoffice-users] spelling correction

[Walther Koehler]

Salute, LO-fans,

I have a problem with spell check:
given:

This is a rong sntence with man mistokes.

spell check f7
marks with a red underline what should be changed.
So far so well.

but
1) When adding manually w before rong and pressing change, spell check 
will jump back to the start of the paragraph and start checking it again 
while deleting all hard-formats (like bold) in that very paragraph.

2) When adding manually y at the end of man, the next red mark ist 
not mistokes but a black m and red istokes. Now you can 
replace istokes with mistakes, however the text will read as mmistakes. 
This shift of the red mark ist continued with the following words. This 
misbehaviour occurs only, when two incorrect words follow each other.

Debian Linux, LO 4.0.4 (download 11.07.13), checked with german.

Can someone confirm this? In that case, I would submit a bug (I screened the  
bug list already without finding a reference).

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling correction

[Walther Koehler]

Am Donnerstag, 11. Juli 2013 schrieb Fred James:
 Walther Koehler wrote:
  Salute, LO-fans,
 
  I have a problem with spell check:
  given:
 
  This is a rong sntence with man mistokes.
 
  spell check f7
  marks with a red underline what should be changed.
  So far so well.
 
  but
  1) When adding manually w before rong and pressing change, spell
  check will jump back to the start of the paragraph and start checking it
  again while deleting all hard-formats (like bold) in that very paragraph.
 
  2) When adding manually y at the end of man, the next red mark ist
  not mistokes but a black m and red istokes. Now you can
  replace istokes with mistakes, however the text will read as
  mmistakes. This shift of the red mark ist continued with the following
  words. This misbehaviour occurs only, when two incorrect words follow
  each other.
 
  Debian Linux, LO 4.0.4 (download 11.07.13), checked with german.
 
  Can someone confirm this? In that case, I would submit a bug (I screened
  the bug list already without finding a reference).
 
  Walther

 Walther Koehler
 Perhaps I am not doing this the way you are?  But I copied/pasted
  This is a rong sntence with man mistokes
 into a new LO text document and ran spell check on it with the end result
 of This is a wrong sentence with man mistakes 
 without encountering any difficulties.

 I don't see a way to manually add a w within the spell check dialog
 box ... perhaps I am just not looking in the right place?
 Regards
 Fred James

 PS:  Mageia3, KDE4, LO Version 4.0.3.3 (Build ID: 4.0.3.3-2.mga3)
 (uname -a)
 Linux localhost.localdomain 3.8.13.4-desktop-1.mga3 #1 SMP Thu Jul 4
 13:56:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Hi Fred,
thank you for your response. Maybe, rong was not the best example, because a 
correct replacement is offfered in the lower window. Only I you correct 
manually by typing w in the upper window the nasty error occurs.

Regards

Walther


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Re: [libreoffice-users] msgbox with timeout

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

while using linux/kde you could use
makro command shell() to call a shell script (bash) to run kdialog.

Walther

Am Montag, 17. Juni 2013 schrieb Vieri:
 Hi,

 I'd like to know how to write a macro that displays a message box for x
 seconds and closes without user interaction.

 msgbox or print don't seem to support timeouts.

 Thanks,

 Vieri




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[libreoffice-users] command line printing changes registry

[Walther Koehler]

Dear LO-friends,

soffice -p test.odt

prints fine, but changes in

 registrymodifications.xcu
  .. SetupFactory
.. TextDocument
 the horizontal window size (in my case from 1016 to 697)

Thereafter, all other odt-files will open in a running instnce with a reduced 
sized window. Nasty, when opening a lot of files on a busy desk and printing 
in parallel by use of soffice.

tested versions LO 3.4.51., 3.5.5.3, different printers, different configs
on Debian/KDE

Why does command line printing change window size in registrymodifications.xcu

I couldnt find a hint in this forum and in older lo/oo threats/bug reports.

Can anybody comment?

Yours, Walther


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Re: [libreoffice-users] spelling + grammar checker in writer

[Walther Koehler]

Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2013 schrieb webmaster-Kracked_P_P:
 On 02/02/2013 07:30 AM, Walther Koehler wrote:
Hello web-m, hello list,

Thank you for your reply.

I am using / have been using different Linux Debian Versions and OO from 2.* 
on up to LO 3.5.3 and I have seen no different behaviour in the grammar and 
spelling checker.

If I insert/delete a letter outside the red marking, the next word to be 
corrected ist only partially marked red. i.e.
cONFUXION (capitals = red marked)
LO might offer as a better replacement confusion, clicking on change gives
cconfusion

A paragraph might be formatted as standard. Some words are in addition hard 
formatted as bold. As soon as I do some manual correction outside the 
red-marked words, the checker starts over checking that paragraph an killing 
all hard formats.


Walther


   Hi folks,
 
  I am using the spelling and grammar checker quite often. However, there
  are some nasty drawbacks (in all versions of OO and LO I know):
 
  - any manual correction outside the (red marked) word will result in
  either reevaluation of the whole paragraph, loss of hard formats in that
  paragraph and/or a shift in the red mark of the follwing words to be
  corrected. This means, the red formatted text might cover only part of
  the word to be corrected. Thus, correction will fail.
 
  Yours
 
  Walther

 I have not i\encountered this partial covering of the word with the
 red markings.

 Please tell up which version of LibreOffice you are using and what is
 you Operating System.

 The correction that fails - do you mean the failure of the spell
 checking system to correctly pick up the word, or are you talking about
 failure to pick up the grammar issues?

 Loss of hard formatting in the paragraph?  could you give an example
 please.



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[libreoffice-users] spelling + grammar checker in writer

[Walther Koehler]

Hi folks,

I am using the spelling and grammar checker quite often. However, there are 
some nasty drawbacks (in all versions of OO and LO I know):

- any manual correction outside the (red marked) word will result in either 
reevaluation of the whole paragraph, loss of hard formats in that paragraph 
and/or a shift in the red mark of the follwing words to be corrected. This 
means, the red formatted text might cover only part of the word to be 
corrected. Thus, correction will fail.

Yours

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] writer table bug?

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo and a happy New Year to all,

especially for the developers of LO, and good health to them, so that they can 
keep up with their marvellous work.

Debian Lenny, KDE, LO 3.5.5.3 (and earlier versions)

I encountered a reproducible error using LO-writer table:

Take a simple 4x4 writer table immediately followed by text hard formatted as 
hidden. Then try to delete the contents of the rightmost cell of the last row 
using strg-shift-rightarrow. This will delete the paragraph mark in that 
cell and causes finally a LO crash with SIGSEGV.

Walther


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Collate print option not working

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

Debian 5, CUPS, Brother HL6050D

I solved printing problems by

1) add a cups-filter to the ppd, that manipulates the final postscript file 
(in my case I added a PJL reset command)

2) use a basic makro (see oo bug 88333)

arg(1).name=Collate
arg(1).value=true
arg(0).name=CopyCount
arg(0).value=1
oDoc.print (arg())

Have a wonderful day

W.

Am Samstag, 24. November 2012 schrieb Alexander Thurgood:
 Le 24/11/12 00:36, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit :

 Hi all,

  with packages other than LO.  It is up to the developers to get the
  print commands in LO and the commands from the OS commands for the
  printers to match up.  The problem is that the developers do not have
  all of the 1,000 or more printers to test on.

 I second those remarks. The origins of most of the print problems that
 people are experiencing today (the bug list is already quite long) lies
 in the decision to switch to CUPS as the printing engine rather than
 Postscript. This decision was made sometime during OpenOffice.org 3.3
 development by the then project warden Sun/Oracle. The problem is that
 CUPS is not homogeneously implemented across all OSes and all
 distributions, some distribs patch their version of CUPS quite heavily,
 some use a combination of CUPS and Gutenprint and some just do their own
 thing. The upshot of this is that many of the printer driver features
 that could previously be hand-tailored by editing a PPD file are no
 longer supported for certain printer models. So now, users are dependent
 on the CUPS printer driver being capable of supporting all those options
 and that those options are interpreted correctly by the CUPS engine used
 in LO (which has its own bugs/deficiencies) - sigh.

 There has been some discussion on the developer list as to what to do
 about the problems, but unfortunately, I didn't seem to be able to draw
 any conclusions from what had been decided.

 Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ending a document

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

no rule without exception:

I never was able to find out which special sequence gives rise to this error:

Deleting the content of the last cell in a writer table, the paragraph mark of 
that cell is deleted, such that no content can be added in that cell. 
Usually, shortly afterwards writer crashes.
(Debian lenny, LO 3.5.5)

Walther.

Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 schrieb Dan Lewis:
 On 11/21/2012 06:07 AM, Barry Say wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Is it the case that a document **must* *end with a paragraph mark. I
  am editing a publication which is a master document and I would like
  to specify that for a given sub-document I wish to have nothing below
  it on the page but when I insert a page break I am given another page
  with a blank paragraph which I do not want. I am aware of the
  possibility of specifying that a document must start a fresh page, but
  I have tried that in the past and introduced a non-deletable feature
  in the master document.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  Barry

   Yes, all documents **must** end with a paragraph mark. Writer
 documents are written using XML. The markers used to format the text
 are used in pairs. If there is a beginning of a paragraph, there must be
 an ending of it. The paragraph markers only visually show you where the
 paragraphs begin and end.
   I just created a master document from 4 chapters that I have.
 (Total pages: 212) In the master document, nothing is below the end of a
 given chapter; the next chapter begins with on a new page. And if the
 subdocument ended as an odd page in the master document, a blank page
 was added so that the new chapter begins as an odd page.
   How did you create the master document? If we had your steps,
 someone might be able to discover what has to be done differently.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ending a document

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Dan,

thanks for your response, I will investigate the problem further. As soon I 
can define it clearly I will give a message.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 schrieb Dan Lewis:
 Very likely the exception is the reason for the error. It is a
 bug that you should probably report to Debian. I can not duplicate your
 error, but I download all my LIbreOffice from its website. Various
 distributions of Linux modify LibreOffice somewhat before putting them
 in the repositories. This leads to unintended bugs. This was true for
 OOo going back to 1.1.x, and it seems to be the case for LO as well.
   In your case, deleting content in **any** cell should not delete
 the paragraph within the cell. It sounds like deleting the contents
 deletes all reference to the cell in the XML. It may seem that it is
 there, but it is not.

 --Dan

 On 11/21/2012 09:15 AM, Walther Koehler wrote:
  Hi,
 
  no rule without exception:
 
  I never was able to find out which special sequence gives rise to this
  error:
 
  Deleting the content of the last cell in a writer table, the paragraph
  mark of that cell is deleted, such that no content can be added in that
  cell. Usually, shortly afterwards writer crashes.
  (Debian lenny, LO 3.5.5)
 
  Walther.
 
  Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 schrieb Dan Lewis:
  On 11/21/2012 06:07 AM, Barry Say wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Is it the case that a document **must* *end with a paragraph mark. I
  am editing a publication which is a master document and I would like
  to specify that for a given sub-document I wish to have nothing below
  it on the page but when I insert a page break I am given another page
  with a blank paragraph which I do not want. I am aware of the
  possibility of specifying that a document must start a fresh page, but
  I have tried that in the past and introduced a non-deletable feature
  in the master document.
 
  Any thoughts?
 
  Barry
 
 Yes, all documents **must** end with a paragraph mark. Writer
  documents are written using XML. The markers used to format the text
  are used in pairs. If there is a beginning of a paragraph, there must be
  an ending of it. The paragraph markers only visually show you where the
  paragraphs begin and end.
 I just created a master document from 4 chapters that I have.
  (Total pages: 212) In the master document, nothing is below the end of a
  given chapter; the next chapter begins with on a new page. And if the
  subdocument ended as an odd page in the master document, a blank page
  was added so that the new chapter begins as an odd page.
 How did you create the master document? If we had your steps,
  someone might be able to discover what has to be done differently.
 
  --Dan



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: OpenOffice to be dumped in Freiburg ?

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

in my office as a medical pracitioner, I probably had the same situation but 
sized down as Freiburg is having while switching to OO/LO.

Yes, I had a lot of work invested into forms, autotexts, dictionary and many 
makros (Fachanwendungen) to be used with Word2000 and Access2.0+Works.

Yes, it took some time to transcribe the macros into LO Basic slang. But when 
I exchanged Word  for OO/LO on my assistants desk, I doubt they even noticed 
it (beside some bugs in the makros in the first few weeks). However, I am 
admin and CEO and hotline in a single person. Today, I just quickly added a 
basic sub callable by a keystroke to ease their life.

And no, we have no problems with formats. Old .doc files are easily readable 
(except embedded makros), medical reports are sent by Fax. I dont know what 
will happen, when we will be forced to put digital reports into the cloud.

And no, I never want to switch back to MSO

W.K.

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[libreoffice-users] crash

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

I am using 
Libreoffice 3.5.5.3 as provided by the Document Foundation.
on Debian lenny.

Old documents generated by Word2000 (*.doc) are well converted to odf 1.2.
However when viewing those *.odt in page view an switching back to 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: BASIC script how to read/write system files, like /dev/null in Linux

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

if you drop Basic as a makro language in writer, you will drop me as a makro 
user, and maybe even as a LO user.

It gives me the freedom to automatize much of my daily tasks without learning 
another high level language.

And when I want to use GNU/Linux system functions I use extensiveley the shell 
comand, i.e. dir() is quite slow, but calling a shell script with an 
elaborate find command does the task very quick.
or: use sed to run through the odt's looking up the print date or ...

Maybe it might helt with /dev/.. too.

Walther

Although sometimes 

 Am Montag, 15. Oktober 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 What are 'the best' languages to choose?  Python and/or C++? or something
 else?

 I know 'the best' is a bit subject to personal feelings and knowledge and
 experience but it would be interesting to hear people's opinions.  From
 what i can gather Python and C++ are teh best although mainstream seems to
 rate Java more highly and it appears in job ads more often.  On the other
 hand when jobs ask for C++ the pay-grade is far higher.  I got as far as
 Speccy Basic, a little pascal and some machine code but i think that's all
 s far behind me that i doubt i could write much even in those languages
 now (machine code was a tfn and only ever worked on the specific machine i
 wrote for (at best)).  Regards from
 Tom :) 


 --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: BASIC script how to read/write system
 files, like /dev/null in Linux To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 7:17

 Am 14.10.2012 21:08, chaonis wrote:
  I am trying to write scripts accessing the system files, such as
  /dev/ttyS0. If I use Open I got the error Device I/O error message.
  Are there any special function call needed to be done for the system
  files? User permission is good as I can access to the file using any
  other Linux commands.

 You have so many programming languages availlable. Why StarBasic?
 StarBasic is the most primitive API-caller. It is almost useless for
 anything outside the UNO scope. (Apart from that, it is the worst
 implementation of an extinct language).


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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: BASIC script how to read/write system files, like /dev/null in Linux

[Walther Koehler]

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: BASIC script how to read/write system 
files, like /dev/null in Linux
Date: Montag, 15. Oktober 2012
From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
To: users@global.libreoffice.org

Hi,

if you drop Basic as a makro language in writer, you will drop me as a makro 
user, and maybe even as a LO user.

It gives me the freedom to automatize much of my daily tasks without learning 
another high level language.

And when I want to use GNU/Linux system functions I use extensiveley the shell 
comand, i.e. dir() is quite slow, but calling a shell script with an 
elaborate find command does the task very quick.
or: use sed to run through the odt's looking up the print date or ...

Maybe it might helt with /dev/.. too.

Walther

Although sometimes 

 Am Montag, 15. Oktober 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 What are 'the best' languages to choose?  Python and/or C++? or something
 else?

 I know 'the best' is a bit subject to personal feelings and knowledge and
 experience but it would be interesting to hear people's opinions.  From
 what i can gather Python and C++ are teh best although mainstream seems to
 rate Java more highly and it appears in job ads more often.  On the other
 hand when jobs ask for C++ the pay-grade is far higher.  I got as far as
 Speccy Basic, a little pascal and some machine code but i think that's all
 s far behind me that i doubt i could write much even in those languages
 now (machine code was a tfn and only ever worked on the specific machine i
 wrote for (at best)).  Regards from
 Tom :) 


 --- On Mon, 15/10/12, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:

 From: Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: BASIC script how to read/write system
 files, like /dev/null in Linux To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Monday, 15 October, 2012, 7:17

 Am 14.10.2012 21:08, chaonis wrote:
  I am trying to write scripts accessing the system files, such as
  /dev/ttyS0. If I use Open I got the error Device I/O error message.
  Are there any special function call needed to be done for the system
  files? User permission is good as I can access to the file using any
  other Linux commands.

 You have so many programming languages availlable. Why StarBasic?
 StarBasic is the most primitive API-caller. It is almost useless for
 anything outside the UNO scope. (Apart from that, it is the worst
 implementation of an extinct language).


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[libreoffice-users] loadComponentfromUrl

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

When I open a document in writer (by menu/open or recently used or new), it 
opens a frame with full window size. bingo.

When I open the same document via a basic makro using
loadComponentfromUrl(sURL, _blank, 0, args())
it opens in a frame maximised vertically but not horizontally.

All further open commands (menu/open AND basic) give the same reduced window 
frame. I assume that somehow an internal variable has been changed by the 
loadComponentfromUrl command.

of course I fiddled around with the parameters/args() of loadComponentfromURL 
and the KDE windows configuration, does _blank start a new (wrong) parent 
frame?, never Problem up to 3.4.

Any idea?

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] How to determine FilterName of loaded document?

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

how to find out the FilterName of a loaded document?
(other than try to save under and look what is marked)
I would like to find it by a Basic Makro, but didnt find a hint even in Andrew 
Pitonyaks marvellous guide.

a sequelae: Does anybody know, how a document is stored in memory? Is it 
different i.e. for a Word.doc and an vnd.oasis Dokument?

Thanks for your help

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] Open in maximized window

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

file/new/textdocument (strg-n)
- opens a maximized (empty) window.

file/open/
- opens the file in a vertically but not horizontally maximized window.
even when it has been stored as maximized before.

LO =3.5 writer GNU/Debian KDE
(never such thing in OO)

What is wrong? Where is the switch?

Thanks

W.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Open in maximized window

[Walther Koehler]

High Andreas,

Am Freitag, 10. August 2012 schrieb Andreas Säger:

 Am 10.08.2012 08:53, Walther Koehler wrote:
file/new/textdocument (strg-n)
- opens a maximized (empty) window.

file/open/
- opens the file in a vertically but not horizontally maximized window.
even when it has been stored as maximized before.

LO =3.5 writer GNU/Debian KDE
(never such thing in OO)

  What is wrong? Where is the switch?

 Install an additional Base package from your repositories or install the
 real thing from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
Do you mean, I have the wong version? I cannot see any relation to base.

 Since OOo 2 I pin the PPD versions as uninstallable and install the
 latest downloadable version.
Are you refering to the postscript printer descriptions, my problem is not 
related to print its just with opening a file and having an unwanted window.

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 3.6

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

thanks for the hints where to find the macro recorder in 3.5.5.

to me, its a very useful to tool and helped a lot, to learn how macros work.
In some cases its the only chance to get something work by use of the 
dispatcher.

Please keep it in the future.

Walther


Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2012 schrieb Johnny Rosenberg:
 2012/8/8 Jeff Hahn kr...@hotmail.com:
  I have two questions on LibreOffice
  3.6.0. First, when I go to the Macro in Calc
  (Tools – Macros) the record macro function is no longer there.

 I have LibreOffice 3.5.5.3 and there is no record macro option there
 either. Seems that they gave up that crap a while ago. Good. It was
 embarrassingly useless anyway.
 There is a better macro recorder extension somewhere, but it is pretty
 useless anyway.

   I
  can run existing macros, I just cannot find where to create new ones.
   Where do I go to create new one?

 Do you mean how to record them, or how to write them?



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



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Re: [libreoffice-users] auto-text menu

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo List,

using autotext extensively, I found that replacing an item is rather slow. One 
has to search the item to be replaced by mouse or repeated key strokes.
It would be easier, to type the name or shortcut and have the item to be 
replaced marked in the list of exiting items.

Find always the correct keystrokes today

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] different X-Displays

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,
our scenario:
several clients use via ssh the same user-account and run a common prog
client1$ ssh -X user@server prog
client2$ ssh -X user@server prog
...
Every client starts its own instance of prog and get the output on the clients 
screen.

However

client1$ ssh [-X] user@server libreoffice3.4 --display client1:0 --writer

will output on the server screen only.
What should I do?

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

[Walther Koehler]

Hi,

sometimes filling out a form I would like to

1) scan the form
2) open a document
3) put the form in the background (as a water mark?)
4) type the answers at the appropriate positions
5) print the whole thing.

I could a imagnie writing a makro for that, or is there faster procedure?

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Google apps are on our side, if there are sides, in this co-operative
 competition between ourselves.  Each fills a niche and it's just finding
 the right tool for the job instead of one great big bloated tool that is
 never quite right anywhere.  Google are one of LO's supporters and i think
 they are one of the companies on the Advisory Board that helps guide the
 BoD.  Regards from
 Tom :) 


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 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 18:14

 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote:
  We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their
  computer and email back to us when complete.
 
  One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective

 survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so
 it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet
 and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very
 free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements.

 (But I still love and use LibreOffice!)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

[Walther Koehler]

High Tom

do you really recommend a proprietary format like pdf in an open source 
environment?

You know, PDF is licensed by Adobe and even a simple end user has to subscribe 
a contract with this company. Have you ever read this license agreement? So 
PDF ist NOT free.

Walther

Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem version
 of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are  so widespread. 
 There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or OpenSource ones. 
 LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so it's best to keep an
 original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt.  Foxit is very fast
 compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding you upgrade it but
 like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader installed. 

 Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a
 web-site. 

 Perhaps you are looking for an html answer?
 http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp
 I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of the
 input.  It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so far but
 i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our web-hosts
 already have everything we need just waiting to be used. 

 Regards from
 Tom :)



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 From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10

 Hello,

 We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their
 computer and email back to us when complete.

 How can we create a document with the following properties:

 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and
 the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right
 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the
 headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every
 blank.
 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially
 completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on
 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on
 6.The document is universal:
    a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the
 form
    b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form


 Thank you very much.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

[Walther Koehler]

High Tom,

yes PDF is free meaning you have not to pay in advance, a least as you use 
only basic functions and its not a commercial use. But what when you receive 
a document with special features?

Its the same situation I had at the university long time ago: At this time 
MSWord was free in the sense that nobody cared where you get your license 
from, and all students used it and requesetd its use in their offces later 
on.

Walther


is free in the Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Yes, sadly i do realise that Pdf is a fairly ethically bad format BUT i do
 have to live in the real world too.  Pdf is difficult to avoid and there
 doesn't seem to be much alternative yet.  One of the key requirements of
 the op was that no special program would have to be installed.  Pdf readers
 are likely to already be installed on most peoples systems.  The docs team
 have offered one of the guides as e-pub but pdf remains dominant. 

 I would recommend moving away from Adobe Reader because there are a lot of
 alternatives and i think they are almost all better.  Adobe seems to have
 frequent 'security' updates but many would claim that it needs them because
 it is so widely used that it is a target.  The theory is that if other
 programs were so widespread then they would have similar level of trouble. 
 It's a poor argument but appears popular with people that refuse to try
 alternatives. 

 Pdf is free (small f) just not Free in a Libre sense. 
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote:

 From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 9:58

 High Tom

 do you really recommend a proprietary format like pdf in an open source
 environment?

 You know, PDF is licensed by Adobe and even a simple end user has to
 subscribe a contract with this company. Have you ever read this license
 agreement? So PDF ist NOT free.

 Walther

 Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
  Hi :)
  Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem
  version of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are  so
  widespread. There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or
  OpenSource ones. LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so
  it's best to keep an original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt. 
  Foxit is very fast compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding
  you upgrade it but like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader
  installed.
 
  Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a
  web-site. 
 
  Perhaps you are looking for an html answer?
  http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp
  I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of
  the input.  It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so
  far but i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our
  web-hosts already have everything we need just waiting to be used.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  --- On Wed, 20/6/12, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote:
 
  From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net
  Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10
 
  Hello,
 
  We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their
  computer and email back to us when complete.
 
  How can we create a document with the following properties:
 
  1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and
  the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right
  2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the
  headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every
  blank.
  3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially
  completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on
  5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on
  6.The document is universal:
     a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the
  form
     b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form
 
 
  Thank you very much.
 
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[libreoffice-users] basic makro DBase connection

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

Is it possible, to connect to an DBase file like test.dbf without prior 
registration using makros?

I tried:
...
oDataSource=oDataBaseContext.getByName(file:///test.dbf)
...

giving the error message:
... no approriate SDBC driver found.

What is my mistake/misconception?

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] Re: database

[Walther Koehler]

to Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de

Hallo Andreas,

thank you for your short practical guide how to use a .dbf for serial letters. 
I spent a lot of time fiddling around reading books etc. and couldnt come up 
with a result. With your advice LO did what I want within some minutes. I 
never understood what .odb is for: Its a simple container for a table etc.

so long

Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs

[Walther Koehler]

Hallo,

I didnt follow the thread up to now.
Do you use GNULinux CUPS?

no: drop the rest
yes: In that case its probably a problem of the .ppd and could  be solved by 
modifying this filet or getting a better one from turboprint.com or a 
gutenprint driver will do it. Have you switched off CUPS?
in my case I could (troubles with a Brother) I could solve the probelm 
perfectly.

Walther


Am Donnerstag, 19. April 2012 schrieb Malcolm Moore:
 Incidentally ( or not ) LO gets it right in Windows


 M
   _

 From: mal [mailto:malc...@interele.demon.co.uk]
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:51:38 +0100
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer Dialogs

 On 15/04/12 19:42, Cor Nouws wrote:
mal wrote (12-04-12 20:05)
   
On 11/04/12 22:10, Cor Nouws wrote:
Where in LibreOffice do you get this?
   
I just go to print a document.
File / Print
General /Properties
The paper tray drop down does not include the bypass tray
Also if you go to Device to select the paper in the options
there are only 13 paper types listed. This printer has 21 types
( which show up in other applications )
   
Is that what you meant ?
   
Yes, thanks. (it could have been that you referred to information on
the page style, although that is not so logic.)
   
I guess LibreOffice gets its information via the printer driver. And
for me that's a terra incognita.
Could it be that the bypass is automatically selected once you open
it, or fill it?
I think that the paper types are not relevant here. That are sort of
definitions, referring in the end simply to the existing trays.
   
Regards,

   Since we lease the printers I have spoken to both the engineers and the
   training department as I was
   hoping they could be set that way but these printers needs to be told to
   use the bypass - it doesn't
   select it automatically ( like small HP printers which  if you put
   something in the bypass it will take it
   from there preferentially. )

   The paper types don't just refer to the tray to take the paper from.
   They also tell the printer how fast
   to feed the paper through the machine. For example thick3 is used for
   t-shirt printing paper and that
   has to go through really slowly otherwise the toner doesn't stick.

   We have a really nasty work around for the t-shirt paper. That is, we
   put it in tray 3 and set that tray to
   thick1 ( which LO does show ) which slows the paper a bit. Then we also
   select 1200 dpi instead of
   the normal 600 which slows it even more and it works. However this does
   use up a tray and you can
   also only get away which doing 2 or 3 pages then you have to put a blank
   sheet through from a normal
   tray to clean the rollers.

   best wishes

   M


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your reply.

I had:

x always create backup copy
x save auto-recover-info  every 1 Min.

One can see, that LO is regularly saving by the moving bar. However this saved 
information apparently is not used for the recover process.

When after a system crash, unexpected shutdown or similar LO starts with a 
window asking whether the user wants to recover the files, I answer yes, 
recovery runs and LO claims to be successful. However the recovered file 
contains old information. The last information is contained in
/tmp//0.odt
and can manually be used to restore to the latest condition.


With respect to the developers of LO.

Walther

Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 I think the default setting avoids taking back-ups as it can be
 time-consuming and irritating to people on slower machines.  One advantage
 of LibreOffice/OpenOffice is that it tends to work well on machines that
 are so slow that  MS Office would keep falling over. 

 To switch it on the back-ups option try

 Tools - Options - +Load/Save - Always create a back-up copy

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Mon, 5/3/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote:

 From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Monday, 5 March, 2012, 8:44

 Hello,

 after a crash LO3.4 writer recovers documents, however it seems not to use
 the  regularly saved corrections.

 However, looking up /tmp/.../0.odt I can find the very last corrections
 stored  and can manually recover from there.

 Is this a flaw or a bad configuration at my system?

 Walther

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document

[Walther Koehler]

Hi Tom,

to my understanding there are two different mechanisms:

1) backup files, created when reopening a file (i.e.
/home/w/.libreoffice/3/user/backup/file.bak)

2) the auto-recover-info saved while editing any x Minutes.

The second one is not used in the recover process! So I end up with an 
outdated file version. However it still exists in the /tmp/.../0.odt file.
The recover function should use that information.

Have you an advice?

Walther


Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
 Hi :)
 Ahh the back-ups are usually stored in
 UserProfile/backups
 (the folder called backups in your user-profile).  this guide hopefully
 shows where the UserProfile is in your Operating System although 3.5.0 has
 added a folder just in front of .libreoffice to make it
 .config/.libreoffice or something like that. 

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Thu, 8/3/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote:

 From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Thursday, 8 March, 2012, 18:16

 Hi Tom,

 Thanks for your reply.

 I had:

 x always create backup copy
 x save auto-recover-info  every 1 Min.

 One can see, that LO is regularly saving by the moving bar. However this
 saved information apparently is not used for the recover process.

 When after a system crash, unexpected shutdown or similar LO starts with a
 window asking whether the user wants to recover the files, I answer yes,
 recovery runs and LO claims to be successful. However the recovered file
 contains old information. The last information is contained in
 /tmp//0.odt
 and can manually be used to restore to the latest condition.


 With respect to the developers of LO.

 Walther

 Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2012 schrieb Tom Davies:
  Hi :)
  I think the default setting avoids taking back-ups as it can be
  time-consuming and irritating to people on slower machines.  One
  advantage of LibreOffice/OpenOffice is that it tends to work well on
  machines that are so slow that  MS Office would keep falling over.
 
  To switch it on the back-ups option try
 
  Tools - Options - +Load/Save - Always create a back-up copy
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
  --- On Mon, 5/3/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote:
 
  From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Monday, 5 March, 2012, 8:44
 
  Hello,
 
  after a crash LO3.4 writer recovers documents, however it seems not to
  use the  regularly saved corrections.
 
  However, looking up /tmp/.../0.odt I can find the very last corrections
  stored  and can manually recover from there.
 
  Is this a flaw or a bad configuration at my system?
 
  Walther



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer recover document

[Walther Koehler]

Hello,

after a crash LO3.4 writer recovers documents, however it seems not to use the  
regularly saved corrections.

However, looking up /tmp/.../0.odt I can find the very last corrections stored  
and can manually recover from there.

Is this a flaw or a bad configuration at my system?

Walther

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[libreoffice-users] Writer printer selection

[Walther Koehler]

Hello over there,

I have a problem with this scenario:

PC1: OOwriter 3.0.0.
PC2: LOwriter3.4
PC1+2 on LAN: standard printer Brother, DIN A4,...

At PC1 I write a file.odt using OOwriter 3.0.0, printer configuration
says Brother1, DIN A4, and save and print it.

At PC2 another user in the LAN using LOwriter 3.4 opens this file.odt and make 
text corrections. Printer configuration still DIN A4.

At PC1 I reopen the file with OO and find printer configured JIS B5. 
Printing would now result in a disaster (B5 tray will be selected).

The same file reopened at PC2 shows DIN A4 and prints well.

Apparently OO and LO interpret printer information differently. No matter 
which is right, an open format should be interpretable in a definite way.

(BTW: I cannot and will not change to LO at all stations at the moment, 
especially if there are inconsistencies (old files not correctly readable)

With respect for your work

Walther


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