Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread mg 
Groovy Bright Giants(a subclass of Red Giants ;-) )
 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: mg  Datum: 
20.02.18  20:29  (GMT+01:00) An: users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy 
Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ? 
Groovy (Red) Giants
 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Rahul Somasunderam 
 Datum: 20.02.18  18:43  (GMT+01:00) An: 
users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - 
Groovy MVPs ? 

Person with Groove ?




On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon  wrote:



Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance? 



On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
 wrote:


Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? 
There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D




On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge  wrote:



Or even GrooVIP :-D


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau 
 wrote:


I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) 
Anoter option: VIP ;)






2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater
:


Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?





On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:






You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)





On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:



Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis 
 wrote:




My own few cents, too:



Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would 
suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member 
(Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New 
acronym, professional enough, focusing
 on the overall community and not only the language per se.



Kostas






On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:






I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would 
pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has 
announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?

STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR




On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:



For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product





On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG 
 wrote:


Following the sports analogy, what about




"Groovy MVPs" 



?



Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned 
in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.



Cheers,

mg








On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:



I disagree with MG.



A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy 
language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since 
it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes 
perfect sense.
 In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock 
stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not 
make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as 
that's what Paul, Jochen and others
 are .



My few cents worth.



/Søren



On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:








On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:



+1up on Groovy Stars. 





"Get a life" ;-)



But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that 
name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am 
convinced it does not.


Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically 
conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow 
nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to 
call Paul and Jochen
 "Groovy All Stars")



As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might 
become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game














On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
 wrote:


Hi Paul,



     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"

easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song

Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate

as I do...



      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"

as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...



      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.



Cheers,

Daniel.Sun







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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread mg 
Groovy (Red) Giants
 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Rahul Somasunderam 
 Datum: 20.02.18  18:43  (GMT+01:00) An: 
users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - 
Groovy MVPs ? 

Person with Groove ?




On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon  wrote:



Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance? 



On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
 wrote:


Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? 
There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D




On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge  wrote:



Or even GrooVIP :-D


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau 
 wrote:


I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) 
Anoter option: VIP ;)






2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater
:


Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?





On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:






You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)





On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:



Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis 
 wrote:




My own few cents, too:



Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would 
suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member 
(Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New 
acronym, professional enough, focusing
 on the overall community and not only the language per se.



Kostas






On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:






I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would 
pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has 
announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?

STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR




On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:



For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product





On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG 
 wrote:


Following the sports analogy, what about




"Groovy MVPs" 



?



Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned 
in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.



Cheers,

mg








On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:



I disagree with MG.



A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy 
language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since 
it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes 
perfect sense.
 In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock 
stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not 
make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as 
that's what Paul, Jochen and others
 are .



My few cents worth.



/Søren



On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:








On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:



+1up on Groovy Stars. 





"Get a life" ;-)



But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that 
name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am 
convinced it does not.


Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically 
conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow 
nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to 
call Paul and Jochen
 "Groovy All Stars")



As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might 
become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game














On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
 wrote:


Hi Paul,



     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"

easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song

Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate

as I do...



      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"

as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...



      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.



Cheers,

Daniel.Sun







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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread mg 
Syvoorg / SyvoorgsGroosGrooviansGroovers

 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Rahul Somasunderam 
 Datum: 20.02.18  18:43  (GMT+01:00) An: 
users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - 
Groovy MVPs ? 

Person with Groove ?




On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon  wrote:



Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance? 



On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
 wrote:


Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? 
There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D




On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge  wrote:



Or even GrooVIP :-D


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau 
 wrote:


I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) 
Anoter option: VIP ;)






2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater
:


Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?





On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:






You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)





On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:



Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)


On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis 
 wrote:




My own few cents, too:



Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would 
suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member 
(Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New 
acronym, professional enough, focusing
 on the overall community and not only the language per se.



Kostas






On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:






I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would 
pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has 
announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?

STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR




On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:



For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product





On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG 
 wrote:


Following the sports analogy, what about




"Groovy MVPs" 



?



Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned 
in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.



Cheers,

mg








On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:



I disagree with MG.



A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy 
language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since 
it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes 
perfect sense.
 In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock 
stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not 
make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as 
that's what Paul, Jochen and others
 are .



My few cents worth.



/Søren



On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:








On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:



+1up on Groovy Stars. 





"Get a life" ;-)



But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that 
name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am 
convinced it does not.


Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically 
conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow 
nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to 
call Paul and Jochen
 "Groovy All Stars")



As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might 
become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game














On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
 wrote:


Hi Paul,



     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"

easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song

Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate

as I do...



      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"

as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...



      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.



Cheers,

Daniel.Sun







--

Sent from: 
http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html














--




Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius



Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: 
+45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread mg 
GrooVIP I like, it's in the tradition of GString... :-)
"The Apache Groovy project announced its 2018 GrooVIPs" works for me.
mg



 Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: Guillaume Laforge 
 Datum: 20.02.18  11:07  (GMT+01:00) An: 
users@groovy.apache.org Betreff: Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - 
Groovy MVPs ? 
Or even GrooVIP :-D
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau  
wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) 
Anoter option: VIP ;)

2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater :
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?

On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:


  

  
  
You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)




On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:



  Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
  

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas
  Saidis 
  wrote:

  

  My own
few cents, too:



Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their
pros and cons. I would suggest something along the lines
of Groovy Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or
Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New
acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall
community and not only the language per se.



Kostas

  



On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:

  

  
  

   I have never heard "MVP" = 
"Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would pose
a problem. Also do you suggest that people would
actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum
Viable Products of 2018" ?

STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according
to https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR



On
  19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:



  For me, MVP sounds too much like
Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product


  
  

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at
  8:32 PM, MG 
  wrote:

  

  Following the sports analogy, what about 

  

  "Groovy MVPs" 

  

  ?

  

  Any game can have Most Valuable Players
  (even if only one is typically crowned in
  the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
  2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.

  

  Cheers,

  mg

  

  

  

  On
19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius
wrote:

  
  
I disagree with MG.
  

  
  A star is an object that shines,
and in this case shines light on the
Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence
I think the name is both
professional, and since it can be
directly linked to the star in the
Groovy logo I think it makes perfect
sense. In sports you also have star
players and in music (and Java) you
have rock stars. That you can find
examples that relates to games on
Nintendo does not make a valid point
IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Rahul Somasunderam 
Person with Groove ?

On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:30 AM, Kyle Boon 
mailto:kyle.f.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
mailto:soe...@glasius.dk>> wrote:
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to use? 
There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging however :D

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge 
mailto:glafo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Or even GrooVIP :-D

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau 
mailto:cedric.champ...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :) 
Anoter option: VIP ;)

2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater 
mailto:jenn.stra...@gmail.com>>:
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?


On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil 
mailto:pe...@mcneils.net>> wrote:


You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)

On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis 
mailto:sai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My own few cents, too:

Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I would 
suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community Member 
(Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). New 
acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not only 
the language per se.

Kostas


On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this would 
pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read "Groovy has 
announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR

On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG 
mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:
Following the sports analogy, what about

"Groovy MVPs"

?

Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically crowned 
in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.

Cheers,
mg



On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
I disagree with MG.

A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the Groovy 
language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional, and since 
it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes 
perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you 
have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on Nintendo 
does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - 
as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .

My few cents worth.

/Søren

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> 
wrote:


On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
+1up on Groovy Stars.

"Get a life" ;-)

But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider whether that 
name really sends the right professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am 
convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are typically 
conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not normally follow 
nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to 
call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")

As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch might 
become a reality:
http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game




On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Paul,

 “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not associate
as I do...

  Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...

  To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

Cheers,
Daniel.Sun



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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Paolo Di Tommaso 
+1

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
wrote:

> Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
> use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
> however :D
>

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Kyle Boon 
Groovy Person of Interest?
Groovy Notable Human?
Contributor of Significance?

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 4:14 AM, Søren Berg Glasius 
wrote:

> Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
> use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
> however :D
>
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge  wrote:
>
>> Or even GrooVIP :-D
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <
>> cedric.champ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head
>>> :) Anoter option: VIP ;)
>>>
>>> 2018-02-20 <20%2018%2002%2020> 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <
>>> jenn.stra...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name,
 everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?


 On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:

 You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)

 On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:

 Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)

 On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis 
 wrote:

> My own few cents, too:
>
> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons.
> I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and 
> not
> only the language per se.
>
> Kostas
>
>
> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>
> I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>
> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>
> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:
>
>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>
>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
>> typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 
>> MVPs"
>> has a nice ring to it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with MG.
>>
>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both 
>> professional,
>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I 
>> think
>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates 
>> to
>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>
>> My few cents worth.
>>
>> /Søren
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>
>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>
>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with 
>>> regards
>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project
>>> are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do 
>>> not
>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>
>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>>> Switch might become a reality:
>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-
>>> leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi Paul,

  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
 Champions"
 easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
 associate "Song
 Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
 associate
 as I do...

   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
 "Grape"
 as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...

   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

 Cheers,
 Daniel.Sun

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Søren Berg Glasius 
Are we at a point where there should be put out a vote for which name to
use? There are several good ones, and a few not so good... not judging
however :D

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 at 11:07 Guillaume Laforge  wrote:

> Or even GrooVIP :-D
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau <
> cedric.champ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
>> Anoter option: VIP ;)
>>
>> 2018-02-20 <20%2018%2002%2020> 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater <
>> jenn.stra...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name,
>>> everyone seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:
>>>
>>> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>>>
>>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>>>
>>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis  wrote:
>>>
 My own few cents, too:

 Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons.
 I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
 Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
 New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
 only the language per se.

 Kostas


 On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:

 I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
 would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
 "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
 STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
 https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR

 On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:

 For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

 On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:

> Following the sports analogy, what about
>
> "Groovy MVPs"
>
> ?
>
> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a 
> nice
> ring to it.
>
> Cheers,
> mg
>
>
>
> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>
> I disagree with MG.
>
> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both 
> professional,
> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>
> My few cents worth.
>
> /Søren
>
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>
>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>
>>
>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>
>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with 
>> regards
>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>
>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
>> Switch might become a reality:
>>
>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>>  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
>>> Champions"
>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
>>> associate "Song
>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>> associate
>>> as I do...
>>>
>>>   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>> "Grape"
>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>
>>>   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from:
>>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Guillaume Laforge 
Or even GrooVIP :-D

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Cédric Champeau 
wrote:

> I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
> Anoter option: VIP ;)
>
> 2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater :
>
>> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone
>> seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>>
>>
>> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:
>>
>> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>>
>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>>
>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis  wrote:
>>
>>> My own few cents, too:
>>>
>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
>>> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>>> only the language per se.
>>>
>>> Kostas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>>
>>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>>
>>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:
>>>
 Following the sports analogy, what about

 "Groovy MVPs"

 ?

 Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
 crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
 ring to it.

 Cheers,
 mg



 On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:

 I disagree with MG.

 A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
 Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
 and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
 it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
 (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
 games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
 makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .

 My few cents worth.

 /Søren

 On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:

>
>
> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>
> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>
>
> "Get a life" ;-)
>
> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>
> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
> Switch might become a reality:
> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
> eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>>  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>> "Song
>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>> associate
>> as I do...
>>
>>   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>> "Grape"
>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>
>>   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel.Sun
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble
>> .com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>
>
>
> --
 Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
 Søren Berg Glasius

 Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
 Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
 --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.



>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume Laforge
>>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>>
>>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>>> Social: @glaforge  / Google+
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> web: http://nerderg.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/pmcneil

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-20 Thread Cédric Champeau 
I agree with Guillaume: MVP sounds "Minimal Viable Product" in my head :)
Anoter option: VIP ;)

2018-02-20 8:32 GMT+01:00 Jennifer Strater :

> Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone
> seems to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?
>
>
> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:
>
> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
>
> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>
> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis  wrote:
>
>> My own few cents, too:
>>
>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
>> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
>> only the language per se.
>>
>> Kostas
>>
>>
>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>>
>> I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
>> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
>> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
>> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
>> https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>>
>> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:
>>
>>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>>
>>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>>> ring to it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> mg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>>
>>> I disagree with MG.
>>>
>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>>
>>> My few cents worth.
>>>
>>> /Søren
>>>
>>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
>>>


 On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:

 +1up on Groovy Stars.


 "Get a life" ;-)

 But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
 whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
 to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
 Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
 typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
 normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
 Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")

 As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
 Switch might become a reality:
 http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
 eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game




 On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
 wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
>  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
> "Song
> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
> associate
> as I do...
>
>   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
> "Grape"
> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>
>   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel.Sun
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble
> .com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>


 --
>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>>
>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Guillaume Laforge
>> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
>> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
>>
>> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
>> Social: @glaforge  / Google+
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> web: http://nerderg.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/pmcneil
> Google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/110661434396927001866
>
>

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread Jennifer Strater 
Although there seems to be a lot of disagreement about the name, everyone seems 
to be in favor of the idea. What is the next step, Paul?

> On 20. Feb 2018, at 07:56, Peter McNeil  wrote:
> 
> You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)
> 
>> On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:
>> Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)
>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis  wrote:
>>> My own few cents, too:
>>> 
>>> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I 
>>> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community 
>>> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM). 
>>> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not 
>>> only the language per se.
>>> 
>>> Kostas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
 I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this 
 would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read 
 "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
 STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
 https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR
 
> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:
>> Following the sports analogy, what about 
>> 
>> "Groovy MVPs" 
>> 
>> ?
>> 
>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically 
>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a 
>> nice ring to it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>> I disagree with MG.
>>> 
>>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the 
>>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both 
>>> professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the 
>>> Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have 
>>> star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can 
>>> find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid 
>>> point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's 
>>> what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>> 
>>> My few cents worth.
>>> 
>>> /Søren
>>> 
 On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
 
 
> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
> +1up on Groovy Stars. 
 
 "Get a life" ;-)
 
 But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider 
 whether that name really sends the right professional message with 
 regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not. 
 Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are 
 typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not 
 normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the 
 Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
 
 As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo 
 Switch might become a reality:
 http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
 
 
 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>>  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java 
>> Champions"
>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me 
>> associate "Song
>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not 
>> associate
>> as I do...
>> 
>>   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current 
>> "Grape"
>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>> 
>>   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel.Sun
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from: 
>> http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
> 
 
>>> -- 
>>> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
>>> Søren Berg Glasius
>>> 
>>> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
>>> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
>>> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Laforge
> Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
> Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform
> 
> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
> Social: @glaforge / Google+
 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> web: http://nerderg.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/pmcneil
> Google+: https:/

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread Peter McNeil 

You're all missing the obvious "Groovy GR8" :-)


On 20/02/18 11:35, Paul King wrote:

Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis > wrote:


My own few cents, too:

Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and
cons. I would suggest something along the lines of Groovy
Exceptional Community Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished
Community Member (Groovy DCM). New acronym, professional enough,
focusing on the overall community and not only the language per se.

Kostas


On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:

I have never heard "MVP" = "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt
this would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would
actually read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products
of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR


On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:

For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product


On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:

Following the sports analogy, what about

"Groovy MVPs"

?

Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced
its 2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.

Cheers,
mg



On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:

I disagree with MG.

A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines
light on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think
the name is both professional, and since it can be directly
linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think it makes
perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in
music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find
examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a
valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much
better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .

My few cents worth.

/Søren

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:



On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:

+1up on Groovy Stars.


"Get a life" ;-)

But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars"
- consider whether that name really sends the right
professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am
convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in
a project are typically conservative and sensitive to
those things, and they do not normally follow nerd
humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy
All Stars")

As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on
the Nintendo Switch might become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game







On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Paul,

     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it
with "Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting
but let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other
people would not associate
as I do...

      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested
to name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but
not formal...

      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

Cheers,
Daniel.Sun



--
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http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html





-- 
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,

Søren Berg Glasius

Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 ,
Skype: sbglasius
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-- 
Guillaume Laforge

Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform

Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/ 
Social: @glaforge  / Goog

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread Paul King 
Supreme Thanks Award Recognising contributions? :-)

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Kostas Saidis  wrote:

> My own few cents, too:
>
> Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I
> would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community
> Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy DCM).
> New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall community and not
> only the language per se.
>
> Kostas
>
>
> On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
>
> I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this
> would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually read
> "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
> STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to https://acronyms.
> thefreedictionary.com/STAR
>
> On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:
>
> For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:
>
>> Following the sports analogy, what about
>>
>> "Groovy MVPs"
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
>> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
>> ring to it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mg
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with MG.
>>
>> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
>> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
>> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
>> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
>> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
>> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
>> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>>
>> My few cents worth.
>>
>> /Søren
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>>
>>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>>
>>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>>
>>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch
>>> might become a reality:
>>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-l
>>> eaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Paul,

  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
 easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
 "Song
 Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
 associate
 as I do...

   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
 "Grape"
 as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...

   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

 Cheers,
 Daniel.Sun



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>>>
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Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread Kostas Saidis 

My own few cents, too:

Groovy Star, Groovy Champion, Groovy MVP all have their pros and cons. I 
would suggest something along the lines of Groovy Exceptional Community 
Member (Groovy ECM) or Groovy Distinguished Community Member (Groovy 
DCM). New acronym, professional enough, focusing on the overall 
community and not only the language per se.


Kostas

On 19/2/2018 10:26 μμ, MG wrote:
I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this 
would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually 
read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR


On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:

For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG > wrote:


Following the sports analogy, what about

"Groovy MVPs"

?

Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.

Cheers,
mg



On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:

I disagree with MG.

A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light
on the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is
both professional, and since it can be directly linked to the
star in the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In
sports you also have star players and in music (and Java) you
have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All
Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's what Paul,
Jochen and others are .

My few cents worth.

/Søren

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:



On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:

+1up on Groovy Stars.


"Get a life" ;-)

But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" -
consider whether that name really sends the right
professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced
it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a
project are typically conservative and sensitive to those
things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next
suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to
call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")

As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the
Nintendo Switch might become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game







On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi Paul,

     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with
"Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but
let me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people
would not associate
as I do...

      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to
name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not
formal...

      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

Cheers,
Daniel.Sun



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Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
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sbglasius
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Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform

Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
Social: @glaforge  / Google+

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread MG 
I have never heard "MVP" =  "Minimum Viable Product", so I doubt this 
would pose a problem. Also do you suggest that people would actually 
read "Groovy has announced its Minimum Viable Products of 2018" ?
STAR has 129 meanings as an acronym, btw, according to 
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/STAR


On 19.02.2018 20:39, Guillaume Laforge wrote:

For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG > wrote:


Following the sports analogy, what about

"Groovy MVPs"

?

Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is
typically crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its
2018 MVPs" has a nice ring to it.

Cheers,
mg



On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:

I disagree with MG.

A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on
the Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both
professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in
the Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you
also have star players and in music (and Java) you have rock
stars. That you can find examples that relates to games on
Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others
are .

My few cents worth.

/Søren

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG mailto:mg...@arscreat.com>> wrote:



On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:

+1up on Groovy Stars.


"Get a life" ;-)

But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" -
consider whether that name really sends the right
professional message with regards to Groovy ? I am convinced
it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a
project are typically conservative and sensitive to those
things, and they do not normally follow nerd humor... (next
suggestion I see coming along the Stars-crossed-line, is to
call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")

As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the
Nintendo Switch might become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game







On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi Paul,

     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with
"Java Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let
me associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people
would not associate
as I do...

      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to
name current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not
formal...

      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

Cheers,
Daniel.Sun



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Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 , Skype:
sbglasius
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Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform

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Social: @glaforge  / Google+

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread Guillaume Laforge 
For me, MVP sounds too much like Minimum Viable Product :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM, MG  wrote:

> Following the sports analogy, what about
>
> "Groovy MVPs"
>
> ?
>
> Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically
> crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a nice
> ring to it.
>
> Cheers,
> mg
>
>
>
> On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:
>
> I disagree with MG.
>
> A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the
> Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both professional,
> and since it can be directly linked to the star in the Groovy logo I think
> it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have star players and in music
> (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can find examples that relates to
> games on Nintendo does not make a valid point IMO. The "All Stars" just
> makes it so much better - as that's what Paul, Jochen and others are .
>
> My few cents worth.
>
> /Søren
>
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:
>>
>> +1up on Groovy Stars.
>>
>>
>> "Get a life" ;-)
>>
>> But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
>> whether that name really sends the right professional message with regards
>> to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
>> Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project are
>> typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they do not
>> normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming along the
>> Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy All Stars")
>>
>> As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo Switch
>> might become a reality:
>> http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-
>> leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>>  “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java Champions"
>>> easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me associate
>>> "Song
>>> Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would not
>>> associate
>>> as I do...
>>>
>>>   Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name current
>>> "Grape"
>>> as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...
>>>
>>>   To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Daniel.Sun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://groovy.329449.n5.nabble.com/Groovy-Users-f329450.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
> Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
> Søren Berg Glasius
>
> Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
> Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88 <+45%2040%2044%2091%2088>, Skype: sbglasius
> --- Press ESC once to quit - twice to save the changes.
>
>
>


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Apache Groovy committer & PMC Vice-President
Developer Advocate @ Google Cloud Platform

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Social: @glaforge  / Google+

Re: Groovy Champions proposal feedback - Groovy MVPs ?

2018-02-19 Thread MG 

Following the sports analogy, what about

"Groovy MVPs"

?

Any game can have Most Valuable Players (even if only one is typically 
crowned in the US), and I think "Groovy announced its 2018 MVPs" has a 
nice ring to it.


Cheers,
mg



On 19.02.2018 12:03, Søren Berg Glasius wrote:

I disagree with MG.

A star is an object that shines, and in this case shines light on the 
Groovy language and ecosystem. Hence I think the name is both 
professional, and since it can be directly linked to the star in the 
Groovy logo I think it makes perfect sense. In sports you also have 
star players and in music (and Java) you have rock stars. That you can 
find examples that relates to games on Nintendo does not make a valid 
point IMO. The "All Stars" just makes it so much better - as that's 
what Paul, Jochen and others are .


My few cents worth.

/Søren

On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 at 17:02 MG > wrote:




On 18.02.2018 13:38, Eric Kinsella wrote:

+1up on Groovy Stars.


"Get a life" ;-)

But seriously, all the people one-upping "Groovy Stars" - consider
whether that name really sends the right professional message with
regards to Groovy ? I am convinced it does not.
Managers who might decide whether Groovy can be used in a project
are typically conservative and sensitive to those things, and they
do not normally follow nerd humor... (next suggestion I see coming
along the Stars-crossed-line, is to call Paul and Jochen "Groovy
All Stars")

As another example, it looks like "Pokemon Stars" on the Nintendo
Switch might become a reality:

http://www.techradar.com/news/pokemon-stars-all-the-latest-leaks-from-the-rumored-nintendo-switch-game





On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 6:13 AM, Daniel Sun
mailto:realblue...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Paul,

     “Groovy Champions” make people associate it with "Java
Champions"
easily. As for "Groovy Stars", it is interesting but let me
associate "Song
Stars" and "Kungfu Stars" easily... I wish other people would
not associate
as I do...

      Similarly, many years ago some one suggested to name
current "Grape"
as "Groovy Baby", the latter is interesting but not formal...

      To sum up, +1 to “Groovy Champions”.

Cheers,
Daniel.Sun



--
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--
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen,
Søren Berg Glasius

Hedevej 1, Gl. Rye, 8680 Ry, Denmark
Mobile: +45 40 44 91 88, Skype: sbglasius
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