Re: 2 installations on the same PC - Add partition in Ftab

2024-05-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 May 2024 19:43:25 -0300 soles.g wrote: > the first > I did two installations of Fedora40 > on the same hard drive. I have absolute no idea if this works for efi installations, but on my MBR based system, I have a stand alone grub partition in /mainboot, and it has a simple grub.cfg

Re: postfix fails to start on boot

2024-05-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 17 May 2024 11:13:15 -0400 Alex wrote: > That's what I was looking for, and thought it would fix it, but alas, it > didn't. I have done complete kludgery to solve problems like this by disabling the service that won't start at boot, then adding rc.local entries to use "at" to start the

What have I used too big a hammer on?

2024-05-17 Thread Tom Horsley
Yesterday there were a couple of hours long xfinity cable outages and I decided to try to connect over 5G via my phone's hotspot and the built in wireless on my computer's motherboard. It could connect, but I couldn't see anything on the internet, I suspect because I beat NetworkManager into

Re: Fedora 39/40 hangs on boot after system update

2024-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 May 2024 19:05:45 +0200 Meikel wrote: > I do not want to manually choose the kernel each time when I boot the > computer. What can I do? You can check out the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion.org and see if they work better. See https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA --

Re: plocate?

2024-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 15 May 2024 05:18:11 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > New install of Fedora 40. It is unclear what program should be run to > create plocate.db. If you run rpm -q --list plocate among the files it lists is /usr/lib/systemd/system/plocate-updatedb.service If you look in there you'll find

My fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-12 Thread Tom Horsley
Things I noticed after installing fedora 40. Nothing too bad, got everything working OK after a few fixes. No sound at all, not even any sound devices listed. Poking around in google I eventually found the advice to do this: rm -rf ~/.local/state/wireplumber reboot That worked. I can watch

Fedora 40 Disappearing sound

2024-05-11 Thread Tom Horsley
Just got completely switched over to Fedora 40 and was dismayed to discover gnome-control-center reporting no sound devices at all. Not the onboard built in sound, and not the HDMI sound I wanted. After much googling, I found this web page:

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 9 May 2024 19:15:20 +0100 Barry Scott wrote: >All options are configured in the [Journal] section: Yep, but it is concatenating all the different bits and pieces it picks up from the journald.conf.d directory, so is the [Journal] in the default file enough to imply [Journal] for

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 9 May 2024 14:22:19 +0100 Barry Scott wrote: > Yes. See man journald.conf I did see the man page, it wasn't clear (not to me, anyway). -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 7 May 2024 14:19:46 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > > Where are journal settings configured these days? > > /etc/systemd/journald.conf.d/ for overrides & customizations. So if I put a .conf file in that directory, does it also need to have the [Journal] line at the beginning? Like so:

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 07 May 2024 21:38:47 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > # rpm -qf /etc/systemd/journald.conf > systemd-255.4-1.fc40.x86_64 > > Try running 'rpm -V systemd'. Everything seems normal, I think they just did some kind of voodoo to the rpm so it owns the file if it exists, but it doesn't

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 7 May 2024 14:19:46 -0400 Felix Miata wrote: > /etc/systemd/journald.conf.d/ for overrides & customizations. A directory which also doesn't exist :-). -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 7 May 2024 14:09:57 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I have a bunch of journal setting I normally change in > /etc/systemd/journald.conf. > > In fedora40 there doesn't appear to be such a file. It gets more confusing. If I do (in fedora 40) a rpm -q --list systemd /etc/systemd/j

Who moved my journald.conf?

2024-05-07 Thread Tom Horsley
I have a bunch of journal setting I normally change in /etc/systemd/journald.conf. In fedora40 there doesn't appear to be such a file. Where are journal settings configured these days? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: libvirt / kvm bridged network question

2024-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 6 May 2024 16:15:00 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm curious what the configuration for that looks like. Does the host > use the bridge interface as well? Yep. I make the physical ethernet port on the host be a part of the bridge (and force the bridge to use the same MAC address as the

Re: libvirt / kvm bridged network question

2024-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 6 May 2024 16:28:18 -0600 Sbob wrote: > Is this true? Is there some way to easily replicate the way VMWare does > it so I can just tell a VM to use an IP that is accessible from another > server? I know nothing about VMWare, but I use a bridge for all of my KVM virtual machines, and as

Any clue what I did to nouveau?

2024-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
This is just curiosity since I fixed it by installing nvidia drivers from rpmfusion, but here's what happened: When I installed fedora 40 workstation, I saw that the nouveau drivers (for the first time in years) had correctly decided to run at the native 3840x2160 resolution of the TV I use as a

Re: How to increase size of /boot partition

2024-05-03 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 3 May 2024 13:55:49 -0700 richard emberson wrote: > So, how can I increase the size of the /boot partition? Many partitions, > like /tmp, are bigger than they need to be. Might be worth a reinstall from scratch. I always make just a single / partition and let all those other things be

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:36:45 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Wayland is still pretty immature when compared to X11. It would be nice if > Wayland was more mature before we are forced to switch to it. That seems to be the standard linux "improvement" path. Get rid of something everyone uses,

Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40

2024-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:56:44 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > And so will I along with everybody using Xfce as I don't know if there > are even any plans yet to make it Wayland compatible. Has Wayland (or the compositor, or whatever they imagine is responsible) got the ability yet to remap keyboard

Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

2024-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 17:52:10 -0600 home user wrote: > kmod_build_6.8.4-100.fc38.x86_64 Possibly relevant, but I don't know what it means for sure: My system gets regular updates. I've never had a yadda-yadda-100 kernel, all mine are -200. Currently I'm running 6.8.4-200.fc39.x86_64, all the

Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

2024-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 15:12:08 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > When something does not (can not?) build correctly, can you just boot > to an earlier kernel until the problems with the current kernel > modules are fixed? Or does rebuilding akmod break past kernels? I've certainly just booted old

Re: crippling nvidia display issue.

2024-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:09:26 -0700 Doug Herr wrote: > I don't have Nvidia currently and can't remember where you find those logs. /var/log/akmod/akmod.log If it doesn't say something about "Success" near the end, then it didn't build correctly. I usually do a tail -f on that file when running

Re: How to turn grub2-install from sad to happy.

2024-03-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 19:05:51 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > [root@jack ~]# grub2-install /dev/sda That is the way you install grub for old MSDOS partitions. To install grub with GPT and use EFI, it needs different arguments. Something like: grub2-install --target x86_64-efi --removable

Re: Which scanner/copier do you use with Fedora?

2024-03-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:49:32 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Which scanner/copier does everyone use, that works out of the box with Xsane? > Printing would be nice but I already have an HP that does the job for me. I've got a CanoScan LiDE 300 which surprised me by working with xsane out of the

Re: Email Balkanization (was Re: Fora vs. mailing lists)

2024-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 22:23:04 + Barry wrote: > You log in once only, the login is remembered in a cookie. > Just only and close the tab as needed. On some forums, not on others. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Fora vs. mailing lists

2024-03-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:19:27 +0100 wwp wrote: > Tried fora a a while when I was forced to and finally gave up with 80% > of them So who's working on a web forum/email interface that is totally independent of the web forum so the forum couldn't stop you from using email even if they wanted to?

Re: google-chrome-stable update fails today on gpg keys

2024-02-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 09:06:44 -0500 Neal Becker wrote: > running /etc/cron.daily/google-chrome gives: I just ignore any gibberish it prints and do the update again, always seems to work for me. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: google-chrome-stable update fails today on gpg keys

2024-02-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 07:46:15 -0500 Neal Becker wrote: > The GPG keys listed for the "google-chrome" repository are already > installed but they are not correct for this package. After getting this many times, I finally figured out I need to manually run /etc/cron.daily/google-chrome to get new

Re: now kernel boots now no sound

2024-02-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 17:47:26 + olivares33561 via users wrote: > Any ideas You probably checked this, but sometimes when I install a new kernel it seems to forget what I had the sound output set to and switches to an output which no speaker is connected to. I have to run the control panel and

Re: wsdd failed Result: resources

2024-02-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:23:41 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > It has nothing on the classic IBM message: > > Wrong Error I always liked IEF020I: DCB erropt=ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified (which I eventually learned meant the damn operator mounted the wrong tape). --

wsdd failed Result: resources

2024-02-11 Thread Tom Horsley
What on earth does that mean? Is there a contest to see who can generate the least useful error message? :-). My best guess is that it is trying to use ipv6 and I have ipv6 turned off? Or is it trying to use a bridge I have that isn't normally connected to anything? --

ipp-usb not necessary

2024-01-31 Thread Tom Horsley
I previously noted that ipp-usb was constantly running using (not too much) cpu time, but constantly cluttering up the running process list. I finally decided to experiment and just did "dnf erase ipp-usb" which only removed that one rpm, then I rebooted (just to make sure). I no longer have

Re: stdio.h

2024-01-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:11:26 -0500 Bill Cunningham wrote: >  I installed from scratch fedora 39. Now I looked in /usr/include and > the usual development headers aren't there. glibc-headers and > glibc-devel are both installed. No standard C headers are present. Does > anyone have any idea

Re: libdvdcss

2024-01-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:38:57 -0500 Bill Cunningham wrote: > I tried looking for "css"  "libdvdcss" and "dvd" and got some responses > but nothing that I recognize. I used "dnf search" btw. I have the > rpmfusion repo installed. What is the rpm? I an looking for source if I > can find it. One

Re: F38 - ssh now having a password popup

2023-12-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 22:51:39 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > did not help They keep changing what kinds of algorithms and keys are allowed to work because of security reasons. You said you just did an upgrade, so perhaps your ssh is now incompatible with the ssh server on the remote system. Try

Re: ipp-usb constantly running?

2023-12-25 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 10:47:43 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > A thought springs to mind: Any jobs stuck in a queue? Nope. I do have a usb scanner plugged in as well, don't know if ipp-usb talks to it as well, but I use it even less frequently than the printer. --

ipp-usb constantly running?

2023-12-25 Thread Tom Horsley
I might print something once a week (if that), I've got a USB connected Brother laser printer. I now see ipp-usb running all the time at about 3% cpu and using about 2.6 meg of memory. Why is it using cpu all the time when I'm almost never printing? If I remove it, will I be able to print the old

Re: Location for python plugin to allow letsencrypt(certbot) automated access to GoDaddy DNS

2023-12-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 11:04:27 -0600 John W. Himpel wrote: > What I don't know is where in the filesystem I should put the .py files > so that certbot will find them and I don't have to reinstall everytime > there's a python version upgrade. Don't know. I always find the latest

Re: libvirt / qemu / kvm bridged network

2023-12-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 19:03:01 -0700 Sbob wrote: > Hi; > > > I'm running Fedora 39, I have installed qemu / libvirt / kvm > > > I have found many guides on setting up bridged networking but none have > worked. Can someone point me to a proper guide? > For what it is worth (possibly not much)

Re: I think Firefox crashed my system

2023-12-10 Thread Tom Horsley
I have definitely had video driver bugs crash my system, usually while running a web browser which seems to push every button in the video drivers :-). In fact every time I try using the nouveau drivers, that usually happens somewhere between 2 hours and two days later, then I install the nvidia

Re: conflict with ffmpeg

2023-11-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 19:40:05 -0600 (CST) Michael Hennebry wrote: > Suggestions? This is fedora putting their own lame bits of ffmpeg in fedora. This works for me: dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing that swaps out the lame fedora stuff and gets everything from rpmfusion. --

Re: OT: X11: how to make cut-and-paste with mouse also work on every window

2023-11-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:03:14 -0600 Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > Is there a way to set this up so that it can work reliably on every window? I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" unfortunately. How windows operate on keystrokes and mouse buttons is up to the individual apps. Some apps can be

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:46:33 -0500 Todd Zullinger wrote: > if ($hostname != $myhostname) then { I tried this just running it through the rsyslogd syntax check (-N1 opt) and it complained about using "myhostname" and asked if I didn't actually mean "$myhostname" :-). The documentation on

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:46:33 -0500 Todd Zullinger wrote: > I'd probably do this in the newer "advanced" format (AKA > RainerScript) instead of the "obsolete legacy" format. I > believe this would do what you want: I'm just adding a bit to the .conf file that ships with the rpm, and it is using

Re: Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 20:09:26 -0500 Go Canes wrote: > Any chance there is a rule for logging SMART messages that is taking > precedence? A good thing to check. I'll see if I can decrypt the .conf file and figure that out. Thanks. -- ___ users mailing

Obscure rsyslog question on remote logging

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Horsley
I've got an old PC running Truenas as a local server for backups, videos, etc. I've got another PC I consider my "main" system running rsyslog. On this PC I have tried (mostly successfully) to direct remote syslog messages from the Truenas system to logfiles in a subdirectory on my main system.

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-14 Thread Tom Horsley
Incidentally, I've updated my bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249379 The problem appears to be wayland, I thought I had tested under x11 and wayland, but gnome was sneaking a wayland session into existence behind my back. When I really managed to start in x11 for sure,

Re: emacs is hopeless

2023-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:46:21 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/12/2023 11:33 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote: > > On that mailing list, yes. > > Don't you think that opening a Bugzilla would be a Good Idea? I started this thread with a mention of this bugzilla:

emacs is hopeless

2023-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
I reported strange things with emacs earlier, but I thought it might be something wrong with my partially configured system. Nope, it is just plain busted. I've added this bug report: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2249379 I guess I'll have to try building from the fedora 38 source

Re: Dnf install ffmpeg.

2023-11-12 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:03:07 +0100 Ger van Dijck wrote: > Question : How to solve this problem ? After running dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing on my system, I installed with no problems. Here are the rpms with ffmpeg in the name I have: ffmpeg-libs-6.0-16.fc39.x86_64

f39 emacs strange behavior?

2023-11-11 Thread Tom Horsley
I have by no means finished tweaking my fedora 39 boot partition, but the last time I was booted there, emacs was a complete mess. It seemed to take forever to respond to keystrokes. Scrolling the screen would leave random characters in various places which would disappear if I moved the cursor

Re: Upgrade Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 . Install problem with FFmeg.

2023-11-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:42:59 + ja wrote: > From someone on this list? > > dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing > > Replaces the incompatible stuff in the fedora repos with the "normal" stuff > from rpmfusion. I've got that in my notes as one of the first things I do now (after

f38 live workstation and network manager wait online

2023-11-08 Thread Tom Horsley
Just noticed this while testing my multi-boot USB stick with scads of ISO images: In Fedora 39, the boot spends an annoying amount of time imagining that it can wait for a network to be up, but the physical ethernet port is connected (via crossover cable) to a device which will definitely not be

Re: Cups shared print now showing in Windows

2023-10-28 Thread Tom Horsley
> But, why can('t) Windows 10's "Add Printer" dialog find it? In the cups web page http://localhost:631/admin there is a checkbox for "share printers connected to this system", perhaps it isn't checked, or your windows system is on a different subnet?

Re: Source code (SRPM?) for COPR package?

2023-10-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:30:02 -0500 Ian Pilcher wrote: > Is the source code for COPR packages available anywhere? rpm -q -i Will print info about that package, with one of the lines it prints starting with "Source RPM" Incidentally, the source rpm name is the name you need to use in bugzilla

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:21:16 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I just booted into kernel 6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64 and it doesn't seem > to display the annoying banner any longer, so I'm guessing it is > something "helpful" linux has done (I was previously using kernel > 6.5.7

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:18:17 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way? Yea, I asked the same question on a samsung forum to find out if some samsung update is responsible, but since I just tried booting the previous kernel, the banner

Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:59:31 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned > it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately. > Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen > telling me it

Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately. Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen telling me it is connected to HDMI 4 and saying what resolution it is displaying (and the

Scanner works!

2023-10-15 Thread Tom Horsley
In the past I have had near infinite trouble getting scanners compatible with linux, but I just replaced a dead Epson multi-function device that I only ever used as a scanner with a Canoscan LIDE 300 and was shocked and amazed when it just worked out of the box. P.S. The epson isn't quite as bad

Re: Google Chrome Update Question

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Horsley
Don't know if it is relevant, but a few weeks ago google chrome utterly refused to update due to some mysterious error it printed meaningless gibberish about. I uninstalled it completely, and downloaded new rpm from scratch from the google download site. I installed it again, and it has been fine

Re: USB device detected but can't access

2023-09-29 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 18:47:19 -0400 Alex wrote: > It's not that old, and certainly doesn't have many hours on it. Are there > any other ways I can try to access it before determining it's defective? Trying usb devices in other ports and other systems is always a good idea, don't know if it will

Re: OT but F38: Cisco SecureClient VPN suddenly stops connecting since this morning

2023-09-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 16:10:55 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > "The certificate on the secure gateway is invalid. A VPN connection will > > not be established." That usually means the server at the other end has an expired certificate. That seems to happen quite frequently because the previous

Re: Creating a bridge

2023-08-14 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 21:54:34 -0400 Alex wrote: > Hi, > I've just installed fedora38 over my previous fedora install but didn't > save my network config that included a bridge to allow for local IPs for my > virtual machines. Is there a network tool that I can use to create a bridge > so I can

Re: Is this another rpmfusion versus fedora thing?

2023-08-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 17:02:18 - Andre Robatino wrote: > Rpmfusion's vlc needs updating to be compatible with live555. Yep, after checking where things were installed from on my system, I saw that vlc was already installed from rpmfusion, so I set the priority of all rpmfusion repos to 1 and

Is this another rpmfusion versus fedora thing?

2023-08-10 Thread Tom Horsley
I've been getting this dnf error for several days now: Problem: package vlc-core-1:3.0.19-0.3.fc38.1.x86_64 from @System requires live555(x86-64) = 2023.03.30, but none of the providers can be installed - cannot install both live555-2023.06.20-2.fc38.x86_64 from updates and

Re: Help needed: disabling system wide the Caps lock key in GNOME/Xwayland

2023-08-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 02 Aug 2023 13:11:07 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > Aren't there options for that in the keyboard preferences any more? Is > gnome tweaks still around, does that offer anything? As near as I can tell (the last time I looked, anyway), wayland has completely eviscerated all the ability to

Re: ~/rpmbuild directory can't be a symlink?

2023-07-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 05:59:05 +0200 Franta Hanzlík via users wrote: > The problem seems to be somehow caused by ~/rpmbuild being a symlink ( If a symlink is the problem, you could always set up a ~/.rpmmacros file with the line: %_topdir /path/to/real/rpmbuild

Re: Asking for thoughts/comments on a laptop/specs

2023-06-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 07:45:32 -0400 bruce wrote: > Looking at/over a couple of laptops and thought I'd ask the list for input. I just watched a video about the "framework" laptop, pretty much infinitely upgradeable and repairable and supports fedora. If I had any use for laptops, that's the one

Re: Wake On LAN

2023-06-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:18:32 +0200 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > - WOL listening only after a shutdown; if the power goes away and comes back > WOL doesn't work anymore (the BIOS was just "playing dead" waiting, but > needing power to keep this state) That's the main reason I started using home

Re: Wake On LAN

2023-06-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 12:52:04 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Suggestions welcome. Not necessarily a useful suggestion, but I always found wake on lan support to be very spotty and unreliable. I've got all the systems I want to turn on remotely set to boot at power up and use home automation

Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 08:45:38 -0500 Richard Shaw wrote: > Yeah the akmods MOSTLY worked fine. I never had any problems as long as I waited for the module build to finish after installing new kernel before I rebooted. tail -f /var/log/akmods/akmods.log

Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:25:23 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > systemctl --user --list-unit-files Wups, list-unit-files (no -- in front of it). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users

Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:02:55 +0200 ogio.spam wrote: > Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a > good way to start. systemctl --user --list-unit-files There are indeed per-user services :-). ___ users mailing list --

Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

2023-06-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:55:10 -0400 Neal Becker wrote: > https://www.phoronix.com/news/Avoid-Nouveau-Linux-6.3 I give nouveau a chance every time I install a new fedora, eventually (2 hours, 2 weeks, it varies) I get a video crash and frozen desktop, then I install the rpmfusion nvidia drivers.

Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

2023-06-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 19:41:34 +0200 Ralf Corsépius wrote: > You mean, after a 15 years period of deprecation Yes, I always examine ever single shell script I have and google for any potential deprecations for every command I use every time there is an update.

Re: Broken packages DNF Update.

2023-06-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:08:16 +0200 Ger van Dijck wrote: > How do I proceed ? I asked that a while back, and got this advice which worked for me: dnf sawp ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing Replaces the incompatible stuff in the fedora repos with the "normal" stuff from rpmfusion.

Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

2023-06-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 10:53:58 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote: > fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F It means OCD linux geeks have decided they ought to remove an option used for decades in uncounted thousands of shell scripts because they don't like it. They've done the same with

Re: F37: any suggestions on this WebEx error on F37?

2023-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 26 May 2023 12:39:18 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Any suggestions? May or may not help, but I'd tend to use ps to get a list of all processes running after reboot, then start webex and do another ps of all processes to see how much junk webex starts. Then after exiting webex, see if any

Re: ide editor??

2023-05-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 23 May 2023 19:02:05 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > There's only one true editor for developers: > > emacs > > Everything else is a pale imitation of emacs' awesomeness. Truth! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: /boot problem. [SOLVED]

2023-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 22 May 2023 12:02:19 -0600 home user wrote: > If the problem happens again, I'll open a new thread. I don't know if it already appeared somewhere in this thread, but I think there is a DNF option you can set in the dnf.conf file to limit the number of old kernels it will keep around.

Re: Fedora 38 and Forticlient VPN

2023-05-22 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 22 May 2023 19:37:41 +0200 Ambrogio De Lorenzo wrote: > Can someone help me solving this problem? Not really help exactly, but I seem to recall we had to use that for work for a while. I think I gave up getting it to operate on fedora directly and used a Windows virtual machine so I

Re: kf5-akonadi errors for the last week?

2023-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 15 May 2023 18:33:17 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > It's hard to see how that update fits within a stable > release Especially if they can automate "fails to install" notices, you'd think they could also automate preventing the update from being pushed to stable :-).

kf5-akonadi errors for the last week?

2023-05-15 Thread Tom Horsley
Usually this sort of stuff clears up in a couple of days, but I've been getting these errors for around a week now and wonder if they will ever go away? [root@zooty ~]# dnf -y update Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:22 ago on Mon May 15 17:08:58 2023. Dependencies resolved. Problem 1:

Re: Keeping ssh sessions alive

2023-05-10 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 10 May 2023 17:38:43 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Anyone have any tips for defeating this rudeness, short of a brute force > approach. I don't know if this counts as brute force, but you could run an ssh-keyscan command on cron. That sends real data back and forth to server without

Re: Amazon Kindle books?

2023-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 6 May 2023 14:24:53 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Is there a way to get Amazon Kindle books off > an android tablet and onto Fedora? You can download them directly from amazon, one of the options in your media library advanced options is download for installation via usb. That

Re: dnf update finishes and I'm logged out?

2023-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 05 May 2023 21:14:40 - Andre Robatino wrote: > It might be the systemd OOM killer. Good thought, but no messages that look like OOM. In fact, nothing in the log looks like anything other than a normal shutdown. No I idea why I got logged out. I guess there are some things man was not

dnf update finishes and I'm logged out?

2023-05-05 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm in my FVWM session, I run dnf update to get new kernel and other updates installed, I watch akmod update the nvidia driver, and I'm about to type reboot to get new kernel when suddenly *poof*, I'm logged out and the sddm login screen is displayed. Is this some "helpful" change that's been

Re: More space needed on the / filesystem to upgrade from F37 to F38

2023-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 2 May 2023 10:13:04 +0200 Roberto Ragusa wrote: > I will never understand why people are so inclined to restart from scratch > with a new install every time. I treat it as an opportunity to get rid of stuff I no longer use. I also keep the previous release around on a different

Re: Systemd Unit Fails at Boot, but Succeeds when Started from the Console

2023-05-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 1 May 2023 18:23:08 -0500 Roger Heflin wrote: > I have something like this in my rc.local for similar reasons. > ( sleep 30 ; cd /someplace ; ) & I'm surprised that works. I used to have that sort of thing directly in rc.local, then they converted the code that runs rc.local to a

Re: Systemd Unit Fails at Boot, but Succeeds when Started from the Console

2023-05-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 01 May 2023 13:39:29 -0700 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > And the problem remains. Further advice would be welcome. Without ever managing to determine what the problem was, I have sometimes resorted to disabling the service, then making an rc.local script that uses the "at" command to start

Re: More space needed on the / filesystem to upgrade from F37 to F38

2023-04-30 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 01 May 2023 03:38:22 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > I gave up doing upgrades, many years ago, there was so many problems > with it I think it has gotten better. When I upgraded my main system, I kept the old one as an emergency backup and tried to keep it identical to the main system so I

saving backward compatibility :-)

2023-04-29 Thread Tom Horsley
I'd wager there are shell scripts using fgrep that were written on the first pdp-11 unix and are still in use today, but appeasing someone's OCD is more important than backward compatibility for tens of thousands of systems all over the world. OK fine, I know I'll lose any argument here, so I've

Re: cursor theme?

2023-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 14:31:03 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote: > Is there a supported cursor theme I could > switch to more like bluecurve? Answering my own question: DNF search showed there weren't too many cursor themes to search through one by one. I've settled on Oxygen_White after installing

cursor theme?

2023-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
I see fedora has finally dropped bluecurve, but the default adwaita cursors are still incredibly ugly. Is there a supported cursor theme I could switch to more like bluecurve? Is there a page anywhere previewing the themes that are available? ___ users

Re: Updating grub after dnf-system-upgrade

2023-04-27 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 01:47:58 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > (I have open questions about systems that claim both BIOS and UEFI, > but I have not been able to find answers. If I need to back up a bit, > then please say so). This may or may not be helpful, but when I make a "universal" boot USB

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:49:46 -0600 Joe Zeff wrote: > And if you're not going to be using a GUI, why install one in the first > place? Wouldn't it be easier to do a server install that doesn't have one? On systems I use like that, I kind of like the GUI installed so I can run GUI tools via ssh

Re: Power Suspend Automatically On in F38?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 17:32:25 -0400 Tim Evans wrote: > And, for those like me using F38 for a firewall or who otherwise need > their systems to not suspend EVER, down a ways in this document: > > # systemctl mask sleep.target suspend.target hibernate.target > hybrid-sleep.target If I'm just

Why is updatedb running now?

2023-04-26 Thread Tom Horsley
I copied /usr/lib/systemd/system/plocate-updatedb.timer to /etc/systemd/system/plocate-updatedb.timer and changed RandomizedDelaySec from 12h to 2h which is supposed to mean it runs sometime between midnight and 2am. It did work that way of fedora 37, yet with the same changes in fedora 38 it is

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