Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
On 27/11/16 16:29, Stephen Davies wrote: On 27/11/16 15:29, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 12:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 08:48 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Both of these worked fine with F23. The upgrade somehow broke them. Nothing else has changed since yesterday when everything

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
On 27/11/16 15:29, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 12:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 08:48 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Both of these worked fine with F23. The upgrade somehow broke them. Nothing else has changed since yesterday when everything worked as expected. Yes, there was some

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 12:57, Stephen Davies wrote: > On 27/11/16 15:22, Ed Greshko wrote: >> >> >> On 11/27/16 11:58, Stephen Davies wrote: >>> I also seem to have lost some libraries. e.g. the 32-bit version of >>> libncurses.so.5 >> >> FYI >> >> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf whatprovides

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 12:50, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/26/2016 08:48 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: >> Both of these worked fine with F23. The upgrade somehow broke them. >> Nothing else has changed since yesterday when everything worked as >> expected. > > Yes, there was some change from 23 to 24 that

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
On 27/11/16 15:22, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 11:58, Stephen Davies wrote: I also seem to have lost some libraries. e.g. the 32-bit version of libncurses.so.5 FYI [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf whatprovides /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 ncurses-compat-libs-6.0-6.20160709.fc24.i686 : Ncurses

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 11:58, Stephen Davies wrote: > I also seem to have lost some libraries. e.g. the 32-bit version of > libncurses.so.5 FYI [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf whatprovides /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5 ncurses-compat-libs-6.0-6.20160709.fc24.i686 : Ncurses compatibility libraries Repo

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 08:46 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: On 27/11/16 15:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Several daemons failed to start at reboot. These include all those in rc.local (yes. I do still have a few.) and openvpn. Running rc.local manually works and

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 08:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/27/16 12:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Several daemons failed to start at reboot. These include all those in rc.local (yes. I do still have a few.) and openvpn. Running rc.local manually works and

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 08:48 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Both of these worked fine with F23. The upgrade somehow broke them. Nothing else has changed since yesterday when everything worked as expected. Yes, there was some change from 23 to 24 that sometimes caused that problem. Try enabling sddm or

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 12:43, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: >> Several daemons failed to start at reboot. These include all those in >> rc.local (yes. I do still have a few.) and openvpn. >> >> Running rc.local manually works and starting openvpn manually with >>

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
On 27/11/16 15:14, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: I have just completed the upgrade from F23 to F24 and rebooted to the new version. The system now boots to console mode and I have to login and type startx to get to KDE. F23 started X and KDE automagically.

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
On 27/11/16 15:13, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Several daemons failed to start at reboot. These include all those in rc.local (yes. I do still have a few.) and openvpn. Running rc.local manually works and starting openvpn manually with systemctl also works.

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: I have just completed the upgrade from F23 to F24 and rebooted to the new version. The system now boots to console mode and I have to login and type startx to get to KDE. F23 started X and KDE automagically. I think you have to enable the display

Re: No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 07:58 PM, Stephen Davies wrote: Several daemons failed to start at reboot. These include all those in rc.local (yes. I do still have a few.) and openvpn. Running rc.local manually works and starting openvpn manually with systemctl also works. systemctl enable rc-local.service

No X/KDE after upgrade to F24

2016-11-26 Thread Stephen Davies
I have just completed the upgrade from F23 to F24 and rebooted to the new version. The system now boots to console mode and I have to login and type startx to get to KDE. F23 started X and KDE automagically. I also seem to have lost some libraries. e.g. the 32-bit version of libncurses.so.5

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:46:35 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/26/2016 04:04 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:53:55 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 11/26/2016 10:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >>> Could not load editor VPN plugin for > >>>

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 04:04 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:53:55 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/26/2016 10:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Could not load editor VPN plugin for 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openconnect' (missing plugin file

Re: Firewall methods for fedora25

2016-11-26 Thread Richard Shaw
I've only got this working with sshd which was my main concern but I have the following that seems to work: In /etc/fail2ban/jail.d: $ ll total 16 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 270 Oct 3 17:43 00-firewalld.conf -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 272 Oct 3 17:43 00-systemd.conf -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 40 Mar 19

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Samuel, Thanks for the response! On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 11:53:55 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/26/2016 10:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > Could not load editor VPN plugin for > > 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openconnect' (missing plugin file > >

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2016-11-27 at 07:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On checking the Nvidia page I see that the 375.xx series does support > > the GT630, which is my card. It was released by Nvidia on Nov. 18 > > according to http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/111596 though > > RPMfusion doesn't seem to

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/27/16 01:21, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 22:28 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/26/16 22:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Apparently Nvidia has yet to release F25 drivers for the GEforce 6 >>> series among others. Is this correct? >>> >>> I'm currently using

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/26/2016 10:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: As an aside, while very smooth, I think that the upgrade itself can do with a bit more installation before the reboot: perhaps some of the things that are applications can be installed after the other ones have upgraded and after the system has

Re: Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 10:36 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Could not load editor VPN plugin for 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openconnect' (missing plugin file "/usr/lib64/NetworkManager/libnm-vpn-plugin-openconnect-editor.so") What does "rpm -q NetworkManager-openconnect" show? If it says not

Fedora 24 -> 25 upgrade smooth and successful (but for one small vpn openconnect issue)

2016-11-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi, I have upgraded all my machines (3 laptops, 2 desktop warhorses) using fedup and all went smoothly. The only thing that does not work is openconnect with NetworkManager. I got the following when I looked into it. Could not load editor VPN plugin for

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 22:28 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 11/26/16 22:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Apparently Nvidia has yet to release F25 drivers for the GEforce 6 > > series among others. Is this correct? > > > > I'm currently using Nouveau and it's fine so far but I haven't stressed

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:03:16PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > I do not believe that Xfce has been updated to support wayland. I don't have > it > installed, but I believe if you open a terminal and check for the environment > variables it > will tell you if you're running a wayland session. >

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:29:28AM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > > On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11". > Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply > disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird. The Xfce session is currently already

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Fred Smith wrote: > So, there's no need to go hacking amongst system config files! The option you mention is not present in F25/XFCE, but in the "Appearance" menue. Anyway, hacking in the system config is definitely needed, because there are programs that presumably do not obey

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > I haven't noticed any changes in font rendering. Perhaps this is something > specific to your video hardware. No, it's definitely not. I have the same phenomenon on (now) three different machines. One has nvidia graphics, one AMD and one Intel Ironlake.

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 04:27:37PM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 26.11.2016, Tom Horsley wrote: > > > /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf > > Thanks a lot, you saved my day! > > But it was not the 10-autohint.conf. When I looked into the > /etc/fonts/conf.d directory, I noticed a file called >

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Heinz Diehl writes: Hi, updated two machines from F24 to F25, and now the fonts configured in Applications -> Settings -> Appearance are no longer on the same level of sharpness/clarity as they were in previous Fedora releases. I haven't noticed any changes in font rendering. Perhaps this is

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Tom Horsley wrote: > /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf Thanks a lot, you saved my day! But it was not the 10-autohint.conf. When I looked into the /etc/fonts/conf.d directory, I noticed a file called "10-hinting-slight.conf". After changing it to perform "hintfull", all is

Re: F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 15:34:11 +0100 Heinz Diehl wrote: > Does anybody know what's going on and what I can do to get back > pre-F25 behaviour? I don't know if it will help, but I've always found this file to make all fonts look better: /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf true

F25 Wayland on Optimus-enabled laptops

2016-11-26 Thread Link Dupont
Two headline features of Fedora 25 are: - Wayland by default - Initial support for PRIME offload rendering for NVIDIA Optimus laptops My laptop has a dual GPU setup (Skylake + GTX 970), but I can't seem to start a Wayland session at all. GDM even runs using Xorg, and the "GNOME" session logs in

F25 XFCE font rendering

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, updated two machines from F24 to F25, and now the fonts configured in Applications -> Settings -> Appearance are no longer on the same level of sharpness/clarity as they were in previous Fedora releases. It is considerably visible in Thunderbird and Firefox. While there was no problem to get

Re: Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/16 22:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Apparently Nvidia has yet to release F25 drivers for the GEforce 6 > series among others. Is this correct? > > I'm currently using Nouveau and it's fine so far but I haven't stressed > it much and would like to have the option. I believe you're

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Ed Greshko wrote: > I do not believe that Xfce has been updated to support wayland. Thanks, you're right. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Nvidia drivers on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Apparently Nvidia has yet to release F25 drivers for the GEforce 6 series among others. Is this correct? I'm currently using Nouveau and it's fine so far but I haven't stressed it much and would like to have the option. poc ___ users mailing list --

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/16 22:07, Andras Simon wrote: > 2016-11-23 18:06 GMT+01:00, Dario Lesca : >> ... Or finally disable it >> >> Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for >> all bugs are removed >> > Can't one simply dnf erase a few packages? > You could

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Andras Simon
2016-11-23 18:06 GMT+01:00, Dario Lesca : > ... Or finally disable it > > Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for > all bugs are removed > Can't one simply dnf erase a few packages? Andras ___ users

Re: Google chrome gets deadlocked on F25

2016-11-26 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Yes, Ed, I can now confirm that disabling gpu when calling Chrome >> fizes the problem. >> >> My video hardware and drivers are below. > > OK I have no similar HW available to me to test. :-( Thanks anyway, Ed.

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/26/16 18:29, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 23.11.2016, Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11". > Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply > disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird. > I do not believe

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 08:25 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > > It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome > > developer's brain > > And the other mystery is how the devil to get gmail > to not bottom quote (sorry about that - I don't normally > use the gmail web interface :-). Gmail

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
> It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome > developer's brain And the other mystery is how the devil to get gmail to not bottom quote (sorry about that - I don't normally use the gmail web interface :-). ___ users mailing list --

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Thomas Horsley
I figured this would be easy: Just look in the .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions and see what is different about gnome and gnome on xorg. But no. It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome developer's brain: Both gnome desktop files execute gnome-session the exact same way. On

Re: Firewall methods for fedora25

2016-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:31:13 -0500 Alex wrote: > firewalld just doesn't seem to be appropriate for anything more than a > desktop. systemctl list-unit-files | fgrep firewall systemctl disable systemctl mask Now firewalld is an inert lump. systemctl enable iptables.service ip6tables.service

Re: Firewall methods for fedora25

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Alex wrote: > firewalld just doesn't seem to be appropriate for anything more than a > desktop. I'd appreciate any ideas on how you build a firewall for > fedora servers, particularly as it relates to interoperating with > fail2ban and standard Internet services. Just disable it

Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2016, Joe Zeff wrote: > Thank you. I stopped using Gnome when I heard what Gnome 3 was going to be > like, and you just gave me another reason not to go back. Me too ;-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2016, Matthew Miller wrote: > On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11". Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird. ___ users mailing list --

Re: Firefox troubles & KDE Plasma Workspace Crash

2016-11-26 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/26/2016 12:21 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: If I open too many tabs in Firefox, it becomes extremely slow, sometimes too slow to be usable. If I terminate it when it's slow, very frequently KDE's Plasma Workspace (shell) crashes; fortunately Plasma Workspace always restarts quickly. The

Firefox troubles & KDE Plasma Workspace Crash

2016-11-26 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
If I open too many tabs in Firefox, it becomes extremely slow, sometimes too slow to be usable.  If I terminate it when it's slow, very frequently KDE's Plasma Workspace (shell) crashes; fortunately Plasma Workspace always restarts quickly.  The bug can't be reported by gnome-abrt, since the