Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread luca paganotti
Hi, I switched from fedora to debian few years ago after about ten years of fedora distros usage and now happy with my linux boxes. The main reason was the pain I had at each new fedora release, the upgrade process to new versions often failed and I had to "rebuild" the offended machine(s). This

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 9:07 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/05/2018 09:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: pi = 4 arctan (1) if you need Excellent!  That was exactly what I was going to suggest.  Decades ago, the late Dan Alderson (The man who wrote JPL's main space probe navigation package.) told me that you should

Re: Why this activity on mounted but unused fs?

2018-11-05 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky
On 4/11/18 4:19 pm, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: [trimmed] However it seems that there is no way to see how far the lazy init progressed or how much data needs to be written. To close this thread, the lazy init is now finished and the disk activity ceased. Still, it would have taken many days

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-05 Thread Paul Allen Newell
ToddAndMargo: I am struggling with this one as well. To the best of my googling, it seems that the "sync" command needs to be done before clicking "safely remove" (or whatever). Documentation also says that "sudo umount " should do it, but I have experienced at least one instance where it

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-05 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, when the writing on my sticks is done I try to unmount, F28 says then there is still activity don't remove, when the activity is done now the system says, You can remove. But there might be someone with more knowledge then I, who can give You some code to check the activity task.

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 09:44 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: pi = 4 arctan (1) if you need Excellent! That was exactly what I was going to suggest. Decades ago, the late Dan Alderson (The man who wrote JPL's main space probe navigation package.) told me that you should always use that because it gave you

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/5/18 10:59 AM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: Fedora ships "bleeding edge" versions Mostly, but not always. 28 did not support the latest Libre Office or Krusader. But they will almost always have the next version back. Xfce either, but that may have been a good thing. Fedora does use

Sticks with not lights

2018-11-05 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to make sure it is done writing?

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > On 11/05/2018 07:49 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > I am sorry for the confusion. > > I use gnuplot > > I don't, so I presume that pi is predefined. Yes, pi = 4 arctan (1) if you need > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 8:18 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 22:53:46 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: Try running "sudo setenforce off" and then try "systemctl hibernate". See if that works. I suspect that you meant sudo sentenforce 0 Oops, I should have checked the man page before posting.

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-05 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 22:53:46 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/4/18 7:09 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 18:46:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 11/4/18 5:21 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >>> Nov 04 19:12:41 machine.name kernel: audit: type=1400 > >>> audit(1541380361.892:226):

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 07:49 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: I am sorry for the confusion. I use gnuplot I don't, so I presume that pi is predefined. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Dupre
> On 11/05/2018 06:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > >> > >> On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > >>> sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi) > >>> > >>> z (x, y) = x + I * y > >>> w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized > >>> plot real (w (z (x, 1)) > >>> > >>> > >>> Good luck. > >> > >> How do you

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 06:31 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi) z (x, y) = x + I * y w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized plot real (w (z (x, 1)) Good luck. How do you initialize pi? ___ I do

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Dupre
> > On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi) > > > > z (x, y) = x + I * y > > w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized > > plot real (w (z (x, 1)) > > > > > > Good luck. > > How do you initialize pi? > ___ I do not

Re: interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Woods
Thank you! That worked. I thought I had a vague memory of having seen something like this go by on the list, but couldn't call it back up. --Greg On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 5:37 PM Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 17.13 -0700, Greg Woods ha scritto: > > Traceback (most recent

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 11:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/5/18 12:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: What is the message from Firefox for that one?  It doesn't redirect to https, so there shouldn't be any ssl messages. it went very quickly to https. just now, i opened a new FF window, typed in the

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 05:32 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi) z (x, y) = x + I * y w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized plot real (w (z (x, 1)) Good luck. How do you initialize pi? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

2018-11-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 17.13 -0700, Greg Woods ha scritto: > Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 58, in > main.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File > "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/dnf/cli/main.py", line 179, in > user_mainerrcode = main(args)

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello Ronaldo Part of my code I={0,1} sqrt_pi = sqrt (pi) z (x, y) = x + I * y w (z) = faddeeva (z) / sqrt_pi # Normalized plot real (w (z (x, 1)) Good luck. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email:

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 06/11/2018 alle 00.40 +0100, Andrej Podzimek via users ha scritto: > Bash has a built-in array called PIPESTATUS Good also "set -o pipefail" , but for me this array is better because it gives me more control over which command fails Many Tanks to all -- Dario Lesca (inviato

Re: issues with F27

2018-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/6/18 8:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/5/18 4:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: >>> 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error >>> results in the >>> system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few 

interrupted upgrade F28 -> F29 hosed dnf

2018-11-05 Thread Greg Woods
I was upgrading a system from F28 ro F29 and the power failed during the upgrade. I don't know what point the upgrade was at when it failed. The basic problem is that most (but not all) dnf commands just die with a traceback: [root@elric greg]# dnf clean all Failed to set locale, defaulting to C

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread alan
> On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 10:59 -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote: >> Fedora also ships or gives you access to a number of packages that are >> not >> "ideologically pure". (NVIDIA drivers and the like.) It depends on >> whether >> you need those packages. > > AFAIK this is not the case. Fedora's

Re: issues with F27

2018-11-05 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/5/18 4:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: >> 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error >> results in the >> system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months. > > The cause of your crashes probably

Re: issues with F27

2018-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/6/18 7:53 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error > results in the > system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months. The cause of your crashes probably isn't related to "System not configured for

issues with F27

2018-11-05 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I have F27 running on a couple of systems.  On one of them I have encountered the following 2 issues. 1) System crashes with "System not configured for semaphores". This error results in the system halting.  It has occurred several times over the last few months. 2) I have a Linksys AE1200

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread Andrej Podzimek via users
When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only the status of last one. For example: "*some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?*" If "*some-cmd*" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in this case 0 In my case if the first command fail, I must

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread John Mellor
On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 15:00 +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: > When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only > the status of last one. > > For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?" > > If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, >

Re: Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 17:03, Ronaldo Mercado wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to test an update to gnuplot from bugzilla #1476616. > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476616 > > I am using fedora 28 and I managed to install the package okay from copr > I don't know my way around gnuplot.

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 10:59 -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I > > choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? > > Debian tends to distribute older versions of packages, where Fedora ships >

Testing gnuplot with libcerf

2018-11-05 Thread Ronaldo Mercado
Hi, I would like to test an update to gnuplot from bugzilla #1476616. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1476616 I am using fedora 28 and I managed to install the package okay from copr I don't know my way around gnuplot. I tried the simple plot from

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 12:13 PM, stan wrote: If you're happy, I wouldn't switch. Linux is linux, though every distribution has a little different character because of the users it attracts. Gentoo is different than Arch is different than Ubuntu is different than Suse is different than Debian ... is

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/5/18 12:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: the google test works fine. Did it redirect to https successfully? yes it did. http:/ietf.org does not What is the message from Firefox for that one?  It doesn't redirect to https, so there

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread stan
On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 18:18:10 + vipul kumar via users wrote: > I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should > I choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? If you're happy, I wouldn't switch. Linux is linux, though every distribution has a little different

Claws Mail 3.17.1 with experimental TLS SNI support

2018-11-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
For Fedora 29 and Rawhide: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mschwendt/claws-mail-testing/ If upgrading to these packages, be sure to upgrade also "libetpan" and not only the "claws-mail*" packages. As a side-note, the Dillo based HTML rendering plugin package "claws-mail-plugins-dillo" is

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread alan
> Greetings, > > I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I > choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? Debian tends to distribute older versions of packages, where Fedora ships "bleeding edge" versions. It depends what your needs are. Do you need a known

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread vipul kumar via users
Use Bitmask VPN ( https://bitmask.net/en/install ). And connect it through their firewall. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 5, 2018 7:24 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > greetings > > i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being

Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread vipul kumar via users
Greetings, I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? Cheers, finn ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 10:23 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 11/5/18 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: the google test works fine. http:/ietf.org does not shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one? i typed it wrong in the email.  not in

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 9:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: the google test works fine. Did it redirect to https successfully? http:/ietf.org does not What is the message from Firefox for that one? It doesn't redirect to https, so there shouldn't be any ssl messages.

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/5/18 12:11 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: the google test works fine. http:/ietf.org does not shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one? i typed it wrong in the email.  not in the browser url.  :)

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/05/2018 10:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: the google test works fine. http:/ietf.org does not shouldn't that be http://ietf.org with two slashes, not one? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno lun, 05/11/2018 alle 15.15 +0100, francis.montag...@inria.fr ha scritto: > Use the PIPESTATUS array: > false | true; echo ${PIPESTATUS[0]}1 > --francis Thank Francis!I did not know this kind of useful parameter -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 28 Workstation)

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/5/18 11:34 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 5:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be

Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 8:03 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:36:26 +0100, Samuel Sieb wrote: What does lsusb say about it? Also, run "sudo journalctl -fa" in a terminal and plug it in.  See what messages are shown. Lsusb says nothing. Journalctl has no messager al all. Then the device

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/5/18 5:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.     The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.     Please contact the website

Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-05 Thread Ger van Dijck
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 00:36:26 +0100, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/3/18 10:12 AM, Ger van Dijck wrote: I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory cards . Under Fedora29 the cardreader is not reconized

Re: PC Card Reader USB 2.0 PCMCIA PC Card ATA ATA Flash Storage.

2018-11-05 Thread Ger van Dijck
On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 18:42:06 +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno sab, 03/11/2018 alle 18.12 +0100, Ger van Dijck ha scritto: Hi Red Hat World, I bought a card reader for PCMCIA , Flashdisk ,PC Card ATA , ATA Flash Storage because I want to read and write to 10 Mb and 32 Mb Memory cards .

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
my samsung galaxy s3 can access ietf.org over hospital wifi. thus this is a f28/FF issue On 11/5/18 9:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/5/18 10:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: never used a free vpn.  Can you give me some instructions? I don't have any recommendations for a free one.  I use one

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/5/18 10:26 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > never used a free vpn.  Can you give me some instructions? I don't have any recommendations for a free one.  I use one that I pay to use. Does the proxy allow you to do google searches? Or, if you can use another browser, Opera includes a free VPN

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/5/18 9:09 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/5/18 9:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car, instead of in bankok for ietf meeting. this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to ietf.org Secure Connection 

Re: OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread Francis . Montagnac
Hi. On Mon, 05 Nov 2018 15:00:04 +0100 Dario Lesca wrote: > For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?" > If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in > this case 0 > In my case if the first command fail, I must send a warning message > A more

Re: F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/5/18 9:54 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car, > instead of in bankok for ietf meeting. > > this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to > ietf.org > > > Secure Connection Failed > > The connection to 

OT: how to get shell status of first pipe shell command (when fail), not that of the last one

2018-11-05 Thread Dario Lesca
When I concatenate 2 or more shell command with pipe (|), I get only the status of last one. For example: "some-cmd | logger -t "some-cmd messages:"; echo $?" If "some-cmd" fail with status !=0 I get always status of last one, in this case 0 In my case if the first command fail, I must send a

F28 help with firfox-tls-proxy

2018-11-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
greetings i am in a hospital bed pecking left handed from being hit by a car, instead of in bankok for ietf meeting. this hospital's firewall/proxy is giving firefox problems connecting to ietf.org Secure Connection Failed The connection to the server was reset while the page was

Re: gnome-control-center coredumps

2018-11-05 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 17:14 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/4/18 10:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I always assumed that the only reason for g-c-c to exist was so that > > users of other DEs could access Gnome settings. If it can only run > > under Gnome that rather defeats the purpose I

DNF Doesn't Complete

2018-11-05 Thread Richard Ibbotson
Hi Yes. The upgrade from f28 to f29 went well. Many thanks to everyone out there. However, after running 'dnf update' I can now see this error message... terminate called after throwing an instance of 'libdnf::File::CloseException' what(): Cannot close file:

Re: Clean Install of F29 problems

2018-11-05 Thread ja
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 18:24 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/4/18 7:18 AM, stan wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 14:29:08 + > > ja wrote: > > > warning: %post(tex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-28.fc29.noarch) scriptlet failed, > > > exit status 255 Error in POSTIN scriptlet in rpm package > > >

Re: OT: bash parameter substitutions

2018-11-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:51 AM Mike Wright wrote: > > There is such a thing as too terse. Can somebody explain what this > cryptic snippet means? I get the "substitute part; it's the > "error,exit" part that has me confounded. > >

Re: hibernate stops working after upgrade to F29 from F28

2018-11-05 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/5/18 2:53 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > The numbers don't match, but I just realized why.  The inode numbers on a > tmpfs are > temporary.  I would need to see the log line and the inode numbers from the > same boot.  > I'm now wondering if it's an selinux issue.  Try running "sudo setenforce