Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 02:30 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > But perhaps it is a good idea to put all user-relevant information in > that very first welcome message from this list after subscribing to it: Naturally that info should be there, but don't count on people actually reading it. I modera

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 01:45 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 00:05:05 + > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 > > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 201

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/06/18 12:10, Tim wrote: > On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >> do you consider the footer >> >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> >> equally "unnecessary as bad weather"? > An unsubs

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 2018-03-06 at 08:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > do you consider the footer > > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > equally "unnecessary as bad weather"? An unsubscribe address, if a robot responds it

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:09 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/06/18 04:39, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > I don't have a problem if you put the link to the archives a second time > > prominently into some auto-generated list footer. Unnecessary as bad > > weather, I believe, because are there really

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/06/18 09:30, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:09 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 03/06/18 04:39, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >>> I don't have a problem if you put the link to the archives a second >>> time prominently into some auto-generated list footer. Unnecessary >>> as

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 08:55:09 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/06/18 04:39, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > I don't have a problem if you put the link to the archives a second > > time prominently into some auto-generated list footer. Unnecessary > > as bad weather, I believe, because are there really

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/06/18 04:39, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > I don't have a problem if you put the link to the archives a second time > prominently into some auto-generated list footer. Unnecessary as bad > weather, I believe, because are there really MUA's out there > nowadays, without the capability to display

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 00:05:05 + Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > talking about a

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/06/18 08:05, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >> On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 >> Matthew Miller wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: talking about a link to the individual message,

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Mon, 2018-03-05 at 21:39 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never > > > had in the old version

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 08:57:03 -0500 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never > > had in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the > > Archives page or more useful

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 18:58 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 05:23:44PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > If you can influence that, thanks. > > > > > > I'll see what I can do. I can't see anything in the mailing list config > > > interface off hand. > > > > If it's

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 05:23:44PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > If you can influence that, thanks. > > I'll see what I can do. I can't see anything in the mailing list config > > interface off hand. > If it's Mailman the change is quite simple. It is in mailman 2, but I'm not seeing an

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 12:06 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 02:46:12PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Putting that in the standard list message footer seems reasonable. > > > > If you can influence that, thanks. > > I'll see what I can do. I can't see anything in t

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 02:46:12PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Putting that in the standard list message footer seems reasonable. > If you can influence that, thanks. I'll see what I can do. I can't see anything in the mailing list config interface off hand. -- Matthew Miller Fedora P

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/04/18 22:46, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 08:57 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had >>> in the old version either. I mean a static

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 08:57 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had > > in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archives page > > or more usefull

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:21:43PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had > in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archives page > or more usefully to the general list information page, which is what > one would

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 11:08 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > So a hidden link which is not clickable. However I wasn't in fact > > talking about a link to the individual message, which IIRC we never had > > in the old version either. I mean a static pointer to the Archives page > > or more usefully to

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 11:08 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > They are all in the headers: > > List-Id: Community support for Fedora users > Archived-At: > > List-Archive: >

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/02/2018 08:21 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:00:14PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>> Is there any other justification for it? And why do messages to this >>> list no longer include a URL pointing at

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 10:49 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:00:14PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Is there any other justification for it? And why do messages to this > > list no longer include a URL pointing at the archives (probably not > > specifically a HK prob

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 12:00:14PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Is there any other justification for it? And why do messages to this > list no longer include a URL pointing at the archives (probably not > specifically a HK problem but still). They do -- it's just in the header. For example

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 03/02/18 07:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail > > providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by > > the OP's provider. And for the record, the message

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 16:09 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/01/2018 03:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail > > providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by > > the OP's provider. And for the record, the me

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 15:31 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the > mailing list. I saw the original message come through the list. For what it's worth, I don't let my mail host do any spam filtering. I just have it auto-delete ev

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 02/03/18 00:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/01/2018 04:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, that then seems to be inconsistently applied. Maybe not.  If any of it's sent through the expected server, you'll see it. I have the original post, listing HyperKitty as user agent. The rpmfusion list has a t

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/01/2018 04:16 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, that then seems to be inconsistently applied. Maybe not. If any of it's sent through the expected server, you'll see it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/02/18 08:09, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/01/2018 03:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail >> providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by >> the OP's provider. And for the record, the message in question i

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/02/18 07:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail > providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by > the OP's provider. And for the record, the message in question is not > in my spam folder. I also have no reco

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/01/2018 03:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'm not sure what your point is. Why would our respective mail providers matter? List traffic is sent out by the list software, not by the OP's provider. And for the record, the message in question is not in my spam folder. Sorry, I thought you

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 11:38 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 03/01/2018 07:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the > > mailing list. > > The original sender is using yahoo and you are using gmail. > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On 03/01/2018 07:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the mailing list. The original sender is using yahoo and you are using gmail. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/EP7DQ36TJB5G3KGV4

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 13:22 +0100, Michal Schorm wrote: > Your wishes has been granted. First of all, this message violates https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mail ing_list_guidelines#If_You_Are_Replying_to_a_Message Secondly, it appears to be a reply to a message which is not on the mailing list. T

Re: The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

Your wishes has been granted. -- "all the links in the section "No HTML Mail, Please" are DEAD!!" If you meant the 1 link from 2 in that section ... yes. :) I used the webarchive for now. -- Michal Schorm Associate Software Engineer Core Services - Databases Team Red Hat On Thu, Mar 1, 2018

The Fedora Wiki page, "Mailing list guidelines" needs to update!

The page "Mailing list guidelines" https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines is not updated nearly 2 years, I saw few errors within it but I have not an account to fix them: * please mention "https://paste.fedoraproject.org"; specially in the sections "No attachments" and "Keep it