system update, or by downloading one
of the ready-to-use system images available for PCs, the MNT Reform
laptop, and the PinePhone.
https://depot.genode.org/genodelabs/image/
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For the start, I'd probably pick route (1). Once the new version of
Sculpt is ready, you could give route (2) a try. Route (3) would make
sense if you aspire to foster the interoperability between your system
and Sculpt OS.
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ot ideally suited for highly dynamic Genode systems anyway, the
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The complete story is given by the release documentation:
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ard) to Genode's concepts.
Succeeding in any of those steps would be a valuable contribution.
[1] https://sequoia-pgp.org/
[2] https://genodians.org/atopia/2023-10-26-a-first-complex-rust-package
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he window-management components
(wm, layouter, decorator).
[1]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/gems/recipes/raw/motif_wm/wm.config
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the-fly-to-ram-instead
virtual FS concept that I've grown addicted to since the mid-2000s).
I love how you draw so many connections between our low-level ideas and
your use cases when wearing the Haiku-hat (guessing you are a hat
person?). :)
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- present developments.
Thank you again for your participation in the road-map discussion.
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manager touch-aware, interplay of multi-monitor
support and touch).
The vision of self-hosted Goa on Genode is mutual. However, I agree that
adverting it on the road map for this year would be over-ambitious.
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this machine for Atari hobby
activities that are most fun when loud.
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)
"Genode on the PinePhone on track to real-world usability" [1]
presented by Norman Feske
Saturday 18:40 at the microkernel devroom (UD2.208)
"Streamlining application development for Genode with Goa" [2]
presented by Johannes Schlatow
[1]
https://fosdem.org/2024/s
for both the concrete work
items (the updates of Qt and QtWebEngine), and also for the steady
continuation of the dev-tooling-on-Genode topic. In particular, I think
that the ability to run Goa directly on Genode would be quite a pinnacle.
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it be received favorable, maybe we can jointly
aspire converting the existing audio drivers and applications (i.e.,
vfs_oss) until version 24.05?
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https://github.com/zorodc/genode-world/blob/d59879cdd33c5e035e80fb53cd36d92733ab1dfc/src/app/xpra_client/DOCUMENTATION.org
Thanks for sharing this teasing preview, which definitely wets the appetite!
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t; in 2024 with a straight face
without having a solid implementation of this feature.
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(explained at [2]) and his further plans
down the road. I'm hopeful that you might benefit from his line of work.
[2] https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/issues/5021
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veloper team?
What is your perspective on Genode's past year's accomplishments?
Can you share your ambitions or even concrete plans?
How and where would you like to see Genode at the end of 2024?
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of attendees of your organization to a maximum of two.
For any further questions, don't hesitate to reach out via the
Hack'n'Hike issue [1] or by writing to: hacknh...@genode-labs.com
[1] https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/issues/4989
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documentation for the new version:
https://genode.org/documentation/release-notes/23.11
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components needed for a simple desktop: a window manager, backdrop, and
a system shell. That's a suitable starting point for adding further
applications like the Falkon web browser (installable from cproc's depot).
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release greatly benefited
from your feedback!
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- Internal core and base-framework modernization
The official release documentation covers all the details:
https://genode.org/documentation/release-notes/23.08
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ing the dynamic-init approach. Should you
encounter its limitations, switch to the sandbox library. Better don't
touch the low-level C++ APIs like 'base/child.h'. Please ignore the
loader session.
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nvestigate it.
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by the depot_download_manager, which orchestrates the
downloading, verification, extraction, and installation of software in
Sculpt OS.
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. Internally, such a
pkg/runtime can have as many NIC routers with special rules as one
wants. But from the outside, it would still be a subsystem requiring
NICs. Instead of adding features to Goa, let us better leverage the
recursive nature of Genode.
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shell using vim. I usually press 'G' to go to the very end and the arrow
keys to go up (key repeat would be nice but doesn't exist yet), or I use
'/' search for a specific string - like "wifi" - and repeatedly press 'n'.
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ime' file. It should contain an entry like this:
...
...
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On 2023-04-06 18:28, dogma via users wrote:
Before I try it: Is there an APN changer yet? Mobile data is my only
data currently, so wifi won’t help me.
Unfortunately not.
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ven in the first announcement:
https://genodians.org/nfeske/2023-02-01-mobile-sculpt
Have fun with trying out the new image!
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ee/master/repos/gems/sculpt/depot
[2]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/gems/sculpt/default-pc.sculpt
This avoids the need for manually adding the 'download' and 'pubkey' files.
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uested from
within the runtime subsystem.
[1]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/gems/run/sculpt.run#L377
[2]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/gems/run/sculpt.run#L153
[3]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/gems/run/sculpt.run#L631
Regar
existing PinePhone driver components cannot be reused.
That said, Michael's work on the RK3588 [2] would be a good starting
point for pursuing such an ambition.
[2] https://github.com/mickenx/genode-rockchip
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nux.sculpt' variant [6], which is picked when
specifying BOARD=linux SCULPT=phone to the sculpt.run script.
[6]
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and the platform-
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'nic_drv_dtb' functions to rewrite the labels for the ROM sessions for
the binary and dtb to the corresponding platform-specific names of the
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ecipes/api/a64_linux/content.mk
To cross-check, does the creation of the binary archive
bin/arm_v8a/a64_usb_host_drv using the genode-allwinner repository work
as it should?
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'-o pinefail' from
Genode's build.mk file.
[2]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/tool/builddir/build.mk#L95
[3]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode-allwinner/blob/master/src/u-boot/pine/target.mk#L29
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[2]
https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone#Datasheets_for_components_and_peripherals
[3]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode-allwinner/tree/master/src/drivers/modem
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e included in the garbage collection.
The feature would be a very welcome addition.
Do you think that the rough plan above is sensible?
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The full details are covered by the official release documentation:
https://genode.org/documentation/release-notes/23.02
Have fun with exploring the new version!
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the
packaging issue as suspected above.
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but it is arguably not
natural.
On the other hand, it is laudable that to got this to work.
BTW, the topic reminds me on Cedric's work on FUSE-based file systems
discussed at [1].
[1] https://github.com/genodelabs/genode-world/issues/193
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limitations of the graph UI were easy to ignore. ;-)
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, not the
difference. E.g., think of a rectangle of only one pixel where p1 == p2.
Here we want to flush the cache line around this pixel. The difference
between the start and end offsets would be zero. But the number of
covered pixels is one.
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earned a lot!
Thank you for sharing your many interests and ideas! I take your email
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Thanks , again. USB is currently a mess. I started from older imx8
driver which depends on u-boot to start. I use u-boot "usb start"
before boot.
But it works :-)
Congratulations, it's a miracle! :)
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. The mentioned update of lxIP may be related to the IPv6
interest expressed by Christian. That said, the maintenance nature of
those topics makes them probably too technical to advertise them on the
official road map.
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the practical benefits of the mentioned
NVMe features for Genode users at large, for advertising them on the
road map?
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that Vulkan should
get a mention at the road map? If so, how should we frame it best?
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and follow the progress!
It's great knowing that you are on board for the upcoming "field test".
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rs, and my best wishes regarding the anticipated time restrictions.
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be great.
thanks for joining the discussion. Good to know that Christian's
interests align with your's.
I have difficulties understanding the last statement. May you try
rephrasing it?
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elies on
the 'Signal_receiver'). So a modernization would be very much appreciated.
Good that you are raising the tool-chain update. How do you feel of
taking this opportunity to enable C++20 by default?
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ns go far beyond the PinePhone.
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project road map.
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et it right.
Since such an application would merely consume a GPS ROM, it can be
developed without any physical GPS device or phone. The GPS position
could come from a component that reports fake GPS positions. Compass
sensory data could be handled similarly.
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are possible and useful. The modular nature of Sculpt
gives us the freedom to decide case by case.
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ubsection.4.3.5
I try to pay you guys back by filing detailed and helpful tickets and such.
It's a joy!
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Norman said is ringing a bell...
you are right. This topic was raised on the mailing list before [1].
[1] https://lists.genode.org/pipermail/users/2020-April/007113.html
Admittedly, this rather rough solution still applies today.
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you for conserving your experience in such
a palatable way. It is so nice to read your reflections on our work.
Your articles will hopefully encourage others to follow your footsteps. :-)
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libc API, etc. - for the use with Goa? Not a suggestion, merely
sharing my vague thoughts about it.
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ion.
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u perceive the Genode year 2022?
What directions are you most excited about?
Which topics do you deem as interesting to explore yourself?
Do you already happen to have rough plans about 2023?
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or_special-purpose_Sculpt-based_operating_systems
Happy hacking!
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de. Once you feel
comfortable with that, you can explore native Genode components (like
moving your browsing habits to Genode's Falkon browser) step by step.
I hope you'll enjoy the ride!
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e eth0_drv policy. The new driver uses
this physical information to correlate device-tree nodes with the
physical resources obtained from the platform driver.
[1]
https://github.com/genodelabs/genode/blob/master/repos/os/src/drivers/platform/README
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great to see that our
work on the new DDE-Linux pays off.
We really have to tame this pesky PS/2 driver in the next Sculpt
version. ;-)
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