Re: Excel formula tool tip suggestion to match Microsoft's feature

2024-03-11 Thread David
Steve Greaves wrote: Hi, team. When building a formula in Excel, the tool tip does not go *BOLD,* as you type, unlike Microsoft's Excel. May I suggest that this could be developed in a newer version? Examples below: Microsoft's has the BOLD type to help... Developers don't visit here

Excel formula tool tip suggestion to match Microsoft's feature

2024-03-10 Thread Steve Greaves
Hi, team. When building a formula in Excel, the tool tip does not go BOLD, as you type, unlike Microsoft's Excel. May I suggest that this could be developed in a newer version? Examples below: Microsoft's has the BOLD type to help...

Re: Program suggestion

2023-09-10 Thread David Robley
On 10/09/2023 15:06, Surfy wrote: Thank you for the great service you have been providing the public for o many years. I have a suggestion for OpenOffice Writer to add to the "Find/Search" function - could you please show the total number of times a search word or Reporting bugs or s

Program suggestion

2023-09-10 Thread Surfy
Thank you for the great service you have been providing the public for o many years. I have a suggestion for OpenOffice Writer to add to the "Find/Search" function - could you please show the total number of times a search word or phrase appears in a document. Also it would be handy i

Re: re finding words in articles in open office suggestion

2023-02-14 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
15:05 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: re finding words in articles in open office suggestion [You don't often get email from tears4a...@gmail.com. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] One of the things you can do that is extremely helpful

re finding words in articles in open office suggestion

2023-02-14 Thread Priscilla Van Sutphin
One of the things you can do that is extremely helpful for finding things in writings is to put a word in search in microsoft word  in your calling up you list of articles, So you can find something you've written but can't find which article it is in. So I can click on documents in Word,

Dictionaries, Suggestion List, and Real Apostrophes

2022-11-05 Thread Rod Lockwood
Is there a way to get AOO to accept real apostrophes (’) by default instead of the straight single quote (') in words? Sometimes the spellchecking just doesn’t work well. Sometimes I wind up with nonsense words in the Suggestions list, usually with the most likely candidates at the bottom.

Suggestion relating to installing and updating Apache Open Office - was - Re: Winding OpenOffice down

2022-06-23 Thread Bret Busby
tes and component applications, like me, are users with limited skills ("a bear with little brain" :) ), would be considered, it could, perhaps, justify implementing my suggestion, to make the use of Apache Open Office, more accessible. Out of interest, I was using Star Office 5.0 (I t

Suggestion for improvement

2021-08-11 Thread DieterHeyn
Hello, Open Office opens each window with the size of the previous window. It would be very helpful if the window size depended on the file. So: Each file has its own window size and position -- Dieter Heyn Klausstr. 3 65366 Geisenheim dieterh...@web.de

Fwd: Re: Suggestion

2020-06-21 Thread Martin Groenescheij
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: Suggestion Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 06:47:40 +0200 From: Piet Fox To: Martin Groenescheij Thanks Martin, that is a great solution! Regards/Groete, *Piet Fox *(Dip.Electr.Eng.; Mem.SAIEE) Cell.: +264 81 169 6340 foxp

Re: Suggestion

2020-06-19 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 18/06/2020 07:27, Piet Fox wrote: Firstly, I want to say that I love OpenOffice and it is the only program I use for all my Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. As I am Afrikaans speaking, I'm often using Special Characters such as "ê" and "ë". It is really an effort for me to go to the

Re: Suggestion

2020-06-18 Thread toki
On 2020/06/18 05:27, Piet Fox wrote: > In MS Word there is a shortcut to insert these Characters while typing. The > shortcut is "ctrl" and "shift" and "Special Character" together and after > releasing the keys you can type the "e" and it would insert the Special > Character automatically. > Can

Suggestion

2020-06-17 Thread Piet Fox
Firstly, I want to say that I love OpenOffice and it is the only program I use for all my Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. As I am Afrikaans speaking, I'm often using Special Characters such as "ê" and "ë". It is really an effort for me to go to the Special Characters tab every time and

Suggestion for search function

2019-10-16 Thread Andhi Saputra
i just want to suggest search function adding total hit and search location like in HxD.i more like using Open Office because more simple and not confusing but i also need search function like HxD to confirm how much i can find the same text and the location by simple click. Example

suggestion

2017-04-21 Thread glgracik
I was thinking , because I read an interactive book, that it would be good if you would design a writer program that has imbedded video and audio feature and make it one file …possibly… for pdf export. Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Suggestion - Internet-Data-Processing-Centered Browser. The Next Browser.

2015-03-27 Thread Bruno Morgado
Hello to you all at OpenOffice, My name is Bruno Morgado, i'm writing you from Portugal and i do have a Suggestion to present you if you don't have already that kind of Solutions within the OpenOffice one. Have you ever thought about making possible an Internet Focused Product where we

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread DaveMainwaring
NINITE gets excellent reviews and is the source I use and trust About Ninite Ninite was founded by Patrick Swieskowski and Sascha Kuzins. Investors include Y Combinator http://ycombinator.com and a small collection of helpful angels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor. We believe in

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 29/11/2014 Tom Panfil wrote: perhaps some site could be developed to provide the official download links for Apache OO For Apache OpenOffice, that site is our official site: http://www.openoffice.org ; it almost always comes first in Internet searches (but yes, sponsored links are the

Re: Suggestion of Ways to Combat Fake AOO Download Sites

2014-11-29 Thread jonathon
On November 29, 2014 8:03:14 AM PST, Tom Panfil wrote: All the projects could watch that site's links to catch any corruption introduced maliciously to the download links . People redirected to the SourceForge from Openoffice.org have ended up downoading the program from a malicious third

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-28 Thread NoOp
On 11/27/2014 08:54 AM, dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie writes: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: f.carbon...@libero.it f.carbon...@libero.it writes: New command in File 'Save page'. The possibility to save

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-27 Thread J. David Boyd
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie writes: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: f.carbon...@libero.it f.carbon...@libero.it writes: New command in File 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page from .odt document in another .odt file. For example:

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-26 Thread J. David Boyd
f.carbon...@libero.it f.carbon...@libero.it writes: New command in File 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt with 35 pages. I want save page 14 of this document only. With 'Save page', I can do. With avanzate

Re: Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:09:07 -0500 dbo...@mmm.com (J. David Boyd) wrote: f.carbon...@libero.it f.carbon...@libero.it writes: New command in File 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt with 35 pages. I want save

Suggestion for Writer

2014-11-25 Thread f.carbon...@libero.it
New command in File 'Save page'. The possibility to save single page from .odt document in another .odt file. For example: document.odt with 35 pages. I want save page 14 of this document only. With 'Save page', I can do. With avanzate service, insert the command for save pages from page x to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-24 Thread Alan B
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: /snip/ There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-24 Thread Richard Detwiler
Doug wrote: One use of Reveal Codes will tell you whether a tab or a set of spaces is used in a text. Also, to spot double spaces, if you don't just do a find/replace to get rid of them. I think this kind of use could be done in OO or LO just as well. Just to clarify, and as I think most

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/22/2014 04:15 PM, japples wrote: Urmas wrote: japples: A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread japples
Dan, like you, I am very tired of people talking about things such as the content.xml file in the zipped ODT file which doesn't seem to be a function in the standard tool bar such as Edit, Copy, Paste etc. I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the codes OO has that are

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2014-05-23, 9:07 AM japples wrote: I do apologize for not being more clear about where I found the codes OO has that are similar to the WP codes. Open OO Writer, find the icon that looks similar to the manual (before computer) editing symbol for new paragraph. Click on it to expose the

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread japples
Larry, I understand your words. For now, this is the closest OO has to WP reveal codes. Look closely and you will see some of the codes shown with OO are also shown in WP reveal codes window. Point being, you don't have to have a separate window to view / edit codes. One other point, WP

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Doug
On 05/23/2014 08:43 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2014-05-23, 3:43 PM japples wrote: /snip/ There is a huge difference between showing non-printing characters and showing formatting codes. Saying AOO shows non-printing characters is similar to WP reveal codes is ridiculous. Now tell me

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-23 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
yes, voting is how you officially indicate your interest On 05/23/2014 03:39 AM, Helen wrote: I'd love the reveal codes feature -- didn't know there was a vote until I ran across this. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 05/19/2014 06:11

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's reveal codes - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appear as I was accustomed to viewing (periods look like dust specks on my

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread Doug
On 05/22/2014 04:22 AM, japples wrote: How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's reveal codes - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appear as I was accustomed to viewing

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread Urmas
japples: A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run begins and ends?

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
Doug wrote: See below your note On 05/22/2014 04:22 AM, japples wrote: How red faced am I . . . I finally put aside a portion of my mindset and can now can see OO's reveal codes - amazing how easy it is not to see the forest for the trees. Could not see OO codes because they did not appear

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-22 Thread japples
Urmas wrote: japples: A more efficient way would be to have the codes seen where they are in document and make corrections on the spot. I've never used WP, but basing on Wiki images, it shows mostly useless stuff like linebreaks and spaces. Do you want to see where each formatting run

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread mt
On 20/5/14 at 3:02 PM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: Sorry -- you're waa behind the times. The vast majority of books published these days use a layout program -- sometimes, even, LibreOffice -- and the publishers set it using tools like styles. ... This is true,

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
At least two (probably more) of the books I have in my shelf are produced entirely by a system widely used in the sciences, LaTeX, in combination with other software like RStudio, R, and a package for R called knitr. As far as I understand, page layout, headers, footers, references, everything.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread James Knott
On 05/20/2014 10:22 PM, Urmas wrote: Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, because it means doing more work than necessary If anyone knows perverse, it would be Urmas. ;-) --- List Conduct Guidelines:

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-21 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 05:14:33 PM mt wrote: On 20/5/14 at 3:02 PM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: Sorry -- you're waa behind the times. The vast majority of books published these days use a layout program -- sometimes, even, LibreOffice -- and the publishers set it

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread mt
On 19/5/14 at 12:05 PM, j...@jt-mj.net (Julian Thomas) wrote: Is there a better manual than the online help that I'm missing? cheers - jt The best style manual I have come across was the ancient Hakon Wium Lie's CSS book - and in fact, it's been easier for me to master styles in

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Johnson
And your not even involving columns and tables, etc., yet! A page can get very complex. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Martin Groenescheij mar...@groenescheij.com wrote: For me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find this the best way to control my documents.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread japples
Martin, to put it more simply, you prefer to post the styles / definitions of a document as a cheat sheet rather than see the code in real time and where located in your document (reveal codes). Very inefficient to take eyes off of the document to search for style definitions then go back to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Martin Groenescheij
On 21-5-2014 10:28, japples wrote: Martin, to put it more simply, you prefer to post the styles / definitions of a document as a cheat sheet rather than see the code in real time and where located in your document (reveal codes). Very inefficient to take eyes off of the document to search

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Urmas
Bruce Byfield: Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, because it means doing more work than necessary Take any book from your shelf. The number of lines on each page was adjusted manually. The hyphenation and letter spacing were adjusted manually. Paragraph

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-20 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 21 May 2014 09:22:08 AM Urmas wrote: Bruce Byfield: Yes, manual formatting is available. But using it is kind of perverse, because it means doing more work than necessary Take any book from your shelf. The number of lines on each page was adjusted manually. The hyphenation

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread mt
Sorry if there is some confusion here, as I for one never meant to criticise styles - which I use extensively, and generally find useful. There are however situations where styles might not help. For example, when troubleshooting document formatting problems such as page or section options,

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread japples
So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide a reveal code feature which is cleaner

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Steve's G-Mail
Allow me to add my 'two-pence worth’ to this important discussion. Seems to me that it has been well-explained earlier that a ‘reveal codes’-like solution (apparently as in WordPerfect) is not readily achievable within OO, as the formatting controls of OO don’t lend themselves to such a

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual users to travel the steep learning curve to enable their use and possibility of creating conflicts with other style rules or show consideration to the casual user and provide

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread 許哲崇
If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? 2014-05-19 20:17 GMT+08:00 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org: On 05/19/2014 06:11 AM, japples wrote: So far, this conversation boils down to: use only styles which requires casual

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Doug
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? The problem is that most versions of WordPerfect don't run on Linux. (WordPerfect 12 word processor only will run, but can't read the latest Microsoft formats.

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
/2014 8:06 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: users@openoffice.apache.org /divdivCc: mar...@groenescheij.com /divdivSubject: Re: Suggestion. /divdiv /divFor me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find this the best way to control my documents. Nevertheless we should not be blind

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
/18/2014 8:07 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: users@openoffice.apache.org /divdivSubject: Re: Suggestion. /divdiv /divNot to argue, but just to mention my experiences -- I do on the spot formatting on many occasions and I've never felt hampered by not having the reveal codes capability. Also, I've

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
/2014 10:42 PM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: users@openoffice.apache.org /divdivSubject: Re: Suggestion. /divdiv /div On 15 May 2014, at 07:15, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: We are preparing new documentation under the Apache License here: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread randyf
/2014 7:02 AM (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: users@openoffice.apache.org /divdivSubject: Re: Suggestion. /divdiv /divOn 05/14/2014 10:17 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Jim McLaughlin
All the more reason why the open source community operating under the Apache umbrella should add a Reveal Codes analog to OO. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 05/19/2014 09:38 AM, 許哲崇 wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? No problem at all... :-) The potential issue is that loading in a different editor will cause slightly different things to be displayed (at least that is my

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 16 May 2014, at 03:12, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: Sorry I can't help Julian, I have found no tutorials at all. I'm used to learning by reading the manual and then lots of trial and error, and after investing many hours doing just that, I have found that using styles can save some

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 19 May 2014, at 03:34, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: Anyhow, a (very basic) example of how this could be obtained is in the Write/Edit Post interface in WordPress, with its two tabs (Visual | Text). I have no idea whether this is possible in OO - but it is my understanding that

Re: Reveal Codes Query - or Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-19 Thread Julian Thomas
On 19 May 2014, at 09:38, 許哲崇 fide...@gmail.com wrote: If we use OpenOffice to edit the file and use WordPerfect to reveal code, what is the problem? lack of a current wordperfect and why should we pay for it if we are committed to OO? jt --- List

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-18 Thread Richard Detwiler
Not to argue, but just to mention my experiences -- I do on the spot formatting on many occasions and I've never felt hampered by not having the reveal codes capability. Also, I've used styles on many other occasions, and likewise have never felt hampered by not having reveal codes. I DO

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-18 Thread Martin Groenescheij
For me personally I worked with Styles for about three decades and find this the best way to control my documents. Nevertheless we should not be blind for the needs of others, managing Styles has a long learning curve and someone can make many mistakes before he master Styles. Where someone

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Doug
WordPerfect, and imagine Reveal codes to be something other than it was. But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? Again, I

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Friday 16 May 2014 11:35:46 PM James Knott wrote: On 05/16/2014 09:29 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If people don't want to learn how to use Writer the way it was designed, they might be better off with some simpler tool. Notepad? ;-) :-) But I didn't say that to put anyone down. It's

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Catherine RIOBÉ
please dont send me emails any more. I am a particular person. Le 17 mai 2014 à 05:24, Bruce Byfield a écrit : On Friday 16 May 2014 10:28:44 PM Julian Thomas wrote: But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
. Surely you aren't suggesting that it isn't for people like me just as much? If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? Yes and no. On the one hand, everyone wants the program

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Saturday 17 May 2014 12:32:43 AM Doug wrote: My beef is that when you find something weird happening, it's likely to be because of some style that you weren't aware of, and _you can't fix it, because__ __it's built into the style. _ Are your experiences with styles with someone else's

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 17 May 2014 00:18:32 -0700 Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net wrote: On Saturday 17 May 2014 12:32:43 AM Doug wrote: My beef is that when you find something weird happening, it's likely to be because of some style that you weren't aware of, and _you can't fix it, because__ __it's

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Richard Detwiler
What I don't understand, and I'm sure I must be missing something so please explain, is how come this discussion seems to suggest that it's either/or -- meaning, use styles for all formatting or we HAVE to have reveal codes to not use styles. I've used styles a lot with Open Office and I

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-17 Thread Doug Johnson
I agree with the On the spot need. Quite simply, Reveal Codes allows me to see what's going with a glance. With so many features, the interaction between them can make formatting unexpectedly difficult. Like salt and pepper, use when needed! On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Richard Detwiler

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
to be something other than it was. But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? Again, I would like to say thank you

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Julian Thomas wrote: As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to see some helpful information on how to get started with styles (better than 'my pets' and 'my cats'; [I tried those tutorials and they didn't work very well for me]) and a reference. We are

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread mt
On 14/5/14 at 4:12 AM, bbyfi...@axion.net (Bruce Byfield) wrote: On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 06:03:34 PM mt wrote: I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply asking that user perspective is taken into consideration at least as much as the programmer's own. So far as I'm concerned, anything that saves me time and effort is taking my perspective as a user into

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Jim McLaughlin jjim.mclaugh...@gmail.com wrote: What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO orthodoxy regarding styles ve. alternative methods, like a WP reveal codes approach, the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Dan Lewis
On 05/14/2014 10:17 PM, Julian Thomas wrote: On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to being styled. As a longtime Star office and now OO

Re: Suggestion

2014-05-16 Thread Brian Barker
document. You perhaps inherit a document from elsewhere and need to know how to modify it as you need. For that, you need to be able to see its structure. I have to say that I cannot disagree with such a suggestion! In case anyone doesn't know what I mean, let me give a simple example. Suppose you

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread circulars
: Brian Barker Sent: 05/14/14 05:29 PM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Suggestion. At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think (program) and behave like

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Felmon Davis
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Brian Barker wrote: [...] Have you ever been asked to double-space a document? Probably. Has anyone ever asked you instead to set double spacing at the beginning of the document and then turn it off at the end? Of course not: that's not how people think and speak!

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Jim McLaughlin
This has been a very interesting thread. It has also been the single most posted to thread I've seen in the six or so months I've been a subscrber to this group. What fascinates me is that other than the three defender's of OO orthodoxy regarding styles ve. alternative methods, like a WP reveal

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 15 May 2014 09:03:13 PM Jim McLaughlin wrote: the overwhelming majority of posters appear to desire the WP/Corel Reveal Codes option Really? I don't mean to be contentious, but I didn't see an overwhelming majority on either side. If the programmers behind OO want to provide a

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Johansson
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:12 AM, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: To those who chimed in to justify styles: it is quite obvious to me that you are missing the point. For starters, it sounds like you don't really know WordPerfect, and imagine Reveal codes to be something other than it was. I

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread Julian Thomas
But more basically, OpenOffice is for people like Julian and me. If people like me and Julian put forward a suggestion, it should be the programmer's job to consider it from the user's perspective... or shouldn't it?? On 16 May 2014, at 03:12, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: Sorry I can't

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-16 Thread James Knott
On 05/16/2014 09:29 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: If people don't want to learn how to use Writer the way it was designed, they might be better off with some simpler tool. Notepad? ;-) --- List Conduct Guidelines:

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread Julian Thomas
On 14 May 2014, at 09:38, mt m...@lockedbags.org wrote: While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to being styled. As a longtime Star office and now OO user, I am new to styles. I'd still like to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
Some of what you want is easily available as follows: Use Tools | Options to open the options dialog. On the left, expend the section for Writer | Formatting Aids (you may need to have a writer document open at the time) You can then tell it to display things such as Paragraph end, spaces,

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread Brian Barker
At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think (program) and behave like computers. It's perhaps worth pointing out that the truth is diametrically opposite to

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-15 Thread 許哲崇
Try to use keyboard recording software. 2014-05-13 9:20 GMT+08:00 Jim McLaughlin jjim.mclaugh...@gmail.com: I would certainly second Gordon Lee's suggestion for ver. 5.x.x that having a parallel to the Corel/WP reveal Codes function would be invaluable. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-14 Thread mt
While I have learned how to (use and) appreciate the Styles features, I agree that not everything in every given text document is prone to being styled. Sometimes it's just not worth spending the time required to define a new Style (or find a suitable one among those already defined), so

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Wednesday 14 May 2014 05:29:45 PM Brian Barker wrote: At 23:38 14/05/2014 +1000, Marina Tadiello wrote: In general, and from a user's perspective, Styles are one example of how common users are encouraged (or forced? :-) to think (program) and behave like computers. Yes, manual formatting

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Sarala Lee wrote: However there is one very important property (if that's the right word) that WP had that is missing from all the Word Processors that I have used. That is what WP called Reveal Codes This has been discussed at length for years. OpenOffice historically has always used styles

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-13 Thread circulars
Reveal codes was a marvellously useful feature of Word Perfect. If it be that we can't have that, could we at least have a 'reveal styles' command instead? There is no ready and full-proof way to do this at the moment. Presumably that would be a more acceptable compromise. On 13 May 2014,

Re: Suggestion

2014-05-13 Thread Brian Barker
At 00:13 13/05/2014 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: ... the stuffy answers came back and said you have to use styles, ... Styles are an important and attractive feature of OpenOffice. Any recommendation of them is surely helpful; it's difficult to see how that can be described as stuffy. ...

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-13 Thread Bruce Byfield
If you use styles, and press F11 to open the Styles and Formatting window, the window automatically highlights the style you are using. change the type of style being listed, and the highlighting may also change. Right-click on the style and select Modify, and you can read a summary of the

Re: Suggestion

2014-05-13 Thread Brian Barker
At 11:46 13/05/2014 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote: /snip/ It's interesting that you had to excise my comment before you commented further - presumably so that you could avoid facing it! You could only change it if you messed with styles, which is what I said. No, that's not what you said:

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-13 Thread Martin Groenescheij
As you're not subscribed to this user list you have only seen 2 out of 15 replies. Reveal Codes, where every change that was made in the document was shown by a particular code. OpenOffice doesn't have Reveal Codes, but it can show your changes, if you have selected record changes. HRT ¶

Re: Suggestion.

2014-05-12 Thread Jim McLaughlin
I would certainly second Gordon Lee's suggestion for ver. 5.x.x that having a parallel to the Corel/WP reveal Codes function would be invaluable. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Sarala Lee sarala...@gmail.com wrote: Sir / Madam, For many years I used WordPerfect as my Word Processor

Suggestion.

2014-05-12 Thread Sarala Lee
Sir / Madam, For many years I used WordPerfect as my Word Processor and Desktop Publisher to produce a 12 page newsletter. I have never found a better program. As I now have iMac I use Openoffice and have found that satisfies most of my requirements. However there is one very

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