Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Gene Heskett wrote: I got to work for several months as a bench tech for an outfit building the first pair of the then smallest tv cameras in the world. Later I found out that one of those civies was Jacques Cousteau, 3 hours later had a contract to put those two

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ZX80/1 yet.

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: On fre 18 dec 2009 15:57:18 CET, Per Jessen wrote I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ZX80/1 yet. or even spectrum hacked to run cpm :) I've also got a Newbrain stashed away somewhere, manuals, circuit diagrams an' all. add it to ebay if you want to sell it,

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, jdow wrote: From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 21:21 [...] Now, if you want to get me rolling about an incompetent computer company just mention GRiD and their Compass not really a laptop computer. Even the bugs were themselves

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, John Hardin wrote: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Gene Heskett wrote: I got to work for several months as a bench tech for an outfit building the first pair of the then smallest tv cameras in the world. Later I found out that one of those civies was Jacques Cousteau, 3

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. I'm

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
R-Elists wrote: as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i remember correctly.. BRUN BEERRUN was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) ...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop a bomb on a space invader

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri 18 Dec 2009 07:09:03 PM CET, Per Jessen wrote Completely agree, but the ZX80/1 made computers very, very affordable. I was 15 when I managed to convince my parents that I desperately needed one of those. Back in 1981, zx80 was 1980 imho, and had just 1k ram, and 8k rom, fully

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri 18 Dec 2009 07:09:03 PM CET, Per Jessen wrote Completely agree, but the ZX80/1 made computers very, very affordable. I was 15 when I managed to convince my parents that I desperately needed one of those. Back in 1981, zx80 was 1980 imho, and had just 1k ram,

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread jdow
From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Sent: Friday, 2009/December/18 09:25 On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board.

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, jdow wrote: From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Sent: Friday, 2009/December/18 09:25 On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus

OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 12/17/09 8:56 AM, Kevin Golding wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I had an ASR 33 teletype with an Anderson Jacobs 110 baud coupler. We dialed into an 800 number owned by tymenet (an X.25 pad). had to hit the ^p on the keyboard after it stopped

OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Lindemann
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper tape to load programs (after you fingered in the boot)

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread hchan
re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8 floppy disk... I wonder if IBM finally phased them out? I still have a couple as souvenirs :) - C

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: Steve Lindemann st...@marmot.org Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 08:30 I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) Have one complete with the SASI hard disk.

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: hc...@mail.ewind.com Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:06 re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? Processor Technology SOL-PC boosted to a higher speed (had to reengineer timing on the board.) I also added a paddle board with S-100 slots on both sides. I was able to stick 5

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8 floppy disk... I wonder if IBM finally phased them out? I still have a couple

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: John Hardin jhar...@impsec.org Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:35 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper tape to load programs (after

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? Sorry, my omission. The first gizmo I ever built, in 1979, was a Quest Super Elf, which has an expansion connector on its board that allowed an s-100 buss backplane to be plugged into it.

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: Chris Hoogendyk hoogen...@bio.umass.edu Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Ober
hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. You and Jerry Pournelle :-)

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
jdow wrote: From: Chris Hoogendyk hoogen...@bio.umass.edu Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^)

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: I still have my KE Log Log Duplex Decitrig. It still works. And it's still aligned despite it's being bamboo. Ah, you've got the newer cheaper model. I inherited mine from my father (40's vintage) and it has a rosewood core. In my freshman year of college,

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, jdow wrote: From: Chris Hoogendyk hoogen...@bio.umass.edu Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Robert Ober wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. You and Jerry Pournelle :-) Yeah, but Jerry is

RE: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread R-Elists
as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i remember correctly.. BRUN BEERRUN was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) ...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop a bomb on a space invader and go boom... wow

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote: as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i remember correctly.. BRUN BEERRUN was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) ...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop a

RE: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread R-Elists
The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live with was an 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every piece in that thing except the frame rail with the serial number and all they managed to do was

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote: The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live with was an 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every piece in that thing except the frame rail with the serial

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 21:21 My impression of the (DEC) field engineers knowledge was that it was nil, other than the rote stuff, DEC had taught him. And I suspect Joanne would back me up on that. Those guys couldn't replace a stuck