Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks confusion

2016-12-17 Thread RW
On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 20:51:01 +0100 Marcus Schopen wrote: > > SpamAssassin usually deals with this problem by looking for > > authentication in the header, but that's not recorded here. > > There is no auth hint in the header when using the submission server. > > Received: from

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks confusion

2016-12-17 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, Am Samstag, den 17.12.2016, 13:17 + schrieb RW: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 22:41:49 +0100 > Marcus Schopen wrote: > > > > The problem is, that smtp-out.myoffice.de is also a submission server > > for dialup clients. Headers from to to down: > > > > Received: from smtp-out.myoffice.de by

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks confusion

2016-12-17 Thread RW
On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 22:41:49 +0100 Marcus Schopen wrote: > The problem is, that smtp-out.myoffice.de is also a submission server > for dialup clients. Headers from to to down: > > Received: from smtp-out.myoffice.de by MY_SERVER_IP > Received: from dialup-client-IP by smtp-out.myoffice.de

Re: trusted_networks question...

2016-09-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:13:02 + (UTC) Pedro David Marco wrote: > >     i have this in my local.cf: > >     trusted_networks    88.2.89.3 > ... >     [17721] dbg: received-header: relay 88.2.89.3 trusted? no > internal? no msa? no > >     is this normal? It is if the chain of trust is

Re: trusted_networks question...

2016-09-10 Thread Pedro David Marco
? ---PedroD From: Martin <ma...@ntlworld.com> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: RE: trusted_networks question... From: Pedro David Marco [mailto:pedrod_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, Septem

RE: trusted_networks question...

2016-09-10 Thread Martin
From: Pedro David Marco [mailto:pedrod_ma...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 9:51 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: trusted_networks question... Hi there... i have this in my local.cf: trusted_networks88.2.890.3

Re: Trusted_networks not working, raddr is always 127.0.0.1

2012-03-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.03.12 05:26, Alain Tesio wrote: I'm using spamassassin 3.2.5 with Exim at smtp time on Debian. old SA on apparently outdated, unsupported debian. I'm trying to whitelist a single IP and set trusted_networks to this IP in local.cf It's not working, whereas other settings in this file

Re: Trusted_networks not working, raddr is always 127.0.0.1

2012-03-12 Thread RW
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 05:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Alain Tesio wrote: Hi, I'm using spamassassin 3.2.5 with Exim at smtp time on Debian. I'm trying to whitelist a single IP and set trusted_networks to this IP in local.cf That's not the same whitelisting. If you actually want to whitelist read

Re: Trusted_networks not working, raddr is always 127.0.0.1

2012-03-12 Thread Alain Tesio
Thanks for your help, Hi, I'm using spamassassin 3.2.5 with Exim at smtp time on Debian. I'm trying to whitelist a single IP and set trusted_networks to this IP in local.cf That's not the same whitelisting. If you actually want to whitelist read the docs. This comment in

Re: Trusted_networks not working, raddr is always 127.0.0.1

2012-03-12 Thread RW
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Alain Tesio wrote: Thanks for your help, Hi, I'm using spamassassin 3.2.5 with Exim at smtp time on Debian. I'm trying to whitelist a single IP and set trusted_networks to this IP in local.cf That's not the same whitelisting.

Re: trusted_networks setup not working

2011-11-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 7 Nov 2011 08:19:43 -0500, spamassas...@horizon.com wrote: [snip] The question, of course, is WTF? no, what line is 0/0 in ? are you sure that computer is not haveing ipv6 ? :=)

Re: trusted_networks setup not working

2011-11-07 Thread Mark Martinec
For some reason, spamassassin thinks that 0/0 is trusted, even after my most strenuous attempts to dissuade it: $ grep _networks /etc/spamassassin/* /etc/spamassassin/local.cf:# trusted_networks 212.17.35. /etc/spamassassin/local.cf:clear_trusted_networks

Re: trusted_networks setup not working

2011-11-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:31:53 +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: Upgrade it to NetAddr-IP-4.055 or downgrade to 4.048. latest is 4.056 just cant find the line with 0/0 here :(

Re: trusted_networks setup not working

2011-11-07 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 07.11.11 08:19, spamassas...@horizon.com wrote: For some reason, spamassassin thinks that 0/0 is trusted, even after my most strenuous attempts to dissuade it: $ grep _networks /etc/spamassassin/* /etc/spamassassin/local.cf:# trusted_networks 212.17.35.

Re: trusted_networks setup not working

2011-11-07 Thread spamassassin
Probably hit by a bug in NetAddr::IP, see: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=6681 Upgrade it to NetAddr-IP-4.055 or downgrade to 4.048. Bingo! I upgraded to 4.056 and no more problem! Apparently there'a a workaround, too, mentioned in comment 20 above: 4.053

Re: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 11:40 -0400, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 When I try to use this option; I login through telnet port 25, and send the test spam string (from the 10.0.1.0 subnet) it

RE: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Kaleb Hosie
On 29.3.2010 18:40, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 In postfix, I need to have spamassassin listed under smtpd_recipient_restrictions so that it will only scan incoming emails however it

Re: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Kettler
On 3/29/2010 11:40 AM, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 In postfix, I need to have spamassassin listed under smtpd_recipient_restrictions so that it will only scan incoming emails however it

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, July 13, 2009 23:55, mouss wrote: so whenever you put an internal_network line, you should add the same line with trusted instead of internal. in other words, internal cant be untrusted so if you see spam with origin as internal networks ip then remove that ip as internal -- xpoint

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, July 14, 2009 00:08, Jari Fredriksson wrote: so whenever you put an internal_network line, you should add the same line with trusted instead of internal. If that is indeed true, it is a BUG IMO. Brain dead requirement! at least its open source so one can make a good patch to fix it

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, July 14, 2009 00:42, mouss wrote: the requirement is reasonable. an internal relay that wouldn't be trusted is irrelevant. why would you want to skip PBL/DUL lookup for an IP that may be forged? if thats the problem the mail wont get delivered in the first place -- xpoint

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Jari Fredriksson
where did your squirrelmail go now ? I use it when I'm not sitting at home. It is up on my server, but I do not use it if I have access to my workstation. I prefer Outlook Express with OE-QuoteFix over any other IMAP client I have tested.

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : MrGibbage a écrit : #ps11651.dreamhostps.com and pelorus.org internal_networks 75.119.219.171 trusted_networks 75.119.219.171 #I think this is wrong no, it is not wrong. the documentation says: Every entry in internal_networks must appear in trusted_net-

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, July 14, 2009 13:25, Jari Fredriksson wrote: [7594] warn: netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included [7594] warn: netset: cannot include 10.0.0.0/8 as it has already been included It looks like SA itself configured the trusted. rfc1918 sa 3.3 ? -- xpoint

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On Tue, July 14, 2009 13:25, Jari Fredriksson wrote: [7594] warn: netset: cannot include 127.0.0.1/32 as it has already been included [7594] warn: netset: cannot include 10.0.0.0/8 as it has already been included It looks like SA itself configured the trusted. rfc1918 Yeah. My LAN is

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Bowie Bailey
Jari Fredriksson wrote: I tried with this: -(local.cf)--- internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8 trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 trusted_networks 212.16.98.0/24 212.16.100.0/24 62.142.0.0/16 195.197.172.98 trusted_networks 195.74.0.0/16 213.192.189.2/24 217.30.188.0/24 65.54.0.0/16

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, July 14, 2009 14:48, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Yeah. My LAN is using 10/8 for hysterical reasons. Is there something wrong here? just that your source have now rfc1918 ranges hardcorded into sa, so remove your own internal/trsuted/msa for rfc1918 will solve it ps: i have not seen the

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : I tried with this: -(local.cf)--- internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8 trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 trusted_networks 212.16.98.0/24 212.16.100.0/24 62.142.0.0/16 195.197.172.98 trusted_networks 195.74.0.0/16 213.192.189.2/24 217.30.188.0/24

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : I tried with this: -(local.cf)--- internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8 trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 trusted_networks 212.16.98.0/24 212.16.100.0/24 62.142.0.0/16 195.197.172.98 trusted_networks 195.74.0.0/16 213.192.189.2/24 217.30.188.0/24

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : I tried with this: -(local.cf)--- internal_networks 10.0.0.0/8 trusted_networks 10.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 trusted_networks 212.16.98.0/24 212.16.100.0/24 62.142.0.0/16 195.197.172.98 trusted_networks 195.74.0.0/16 213.192.189.2/24 217.30.188.0/24

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : [snip] when I put your lines in my config, I only seethe 127.0.0.1/32 warning. It looks like SA itself configured the trusted. I removed both the 127.0.0.1 AND 10/8 and this is happy again. It seems to configure the internal networks as trusted

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, July 14, 2009 21:26, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Duh. Dumb. Arrgh! Hit! Damn. its rocket science :) -- xpoint

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-13 Thread mouss
MrGibbage a écrit : I have read the help pages for those two settings over and over, and I guess I'm just not smart enough. I can't figure out what I should put for those two settings. Can one of you give me a hand by looking at the headers from an email? I can tell you that my SA

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-13 Thread Jari Fredriksson
MrGibbage a écrit : #ps11651.dreamhostps.com and pelorus.org internal_networks 75.119.219.171 trusted_networks 75.119.219.171 #I think this is wrong no, it is not wrong. the documentation says: Every entry in internal_networks must appear in trusted_net- works; so whenever you

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-13 Thread mouss
Jari Fredriksson a écrit : MrGibbage a écrit : #ps11651.dreamhostps.com and pelorus.org internal_networks 75.119.219.171 trusted_networks 75.119.219.171 #I think this is wrong no, it is not wrong. the documentation says: Every entry in internal_networks must appear in trusted_net-

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-12 Thread RW
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:54:35 -0700 (PDT) MrGibbage s...@pelorus.org wrote: I have read the help pages for those two settings over and over, and I guess I'm just not smart enough. I can't figure out what I should put for those two settings. Can one of you give me a hand by looking at the

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, July 12, 2009 16:21, RW wrote: Generally forwarders should go into your internal networks, no no, internal networks is your own wan ips nothing more, imho forwarders is trusted/msa unless they rewrite the return-path why does this change ? or there is a possibility of mail

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-12 Thread RW
On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:29:07 +0200 (CEST) Benny Pedersen m...@junc.org wrote: On Sun, July 12, 2009 16:21, RW wrote: Generally forwarders should go into your internal networks, no no, internal networks is your own wan ips nothing more, imho forwarders is trusted/msa If you do it that

Re: trusted_networks and internal_networks

2009-07-12 Thread MrGibbage
Wow, I had a feeling I was opening a can of worms here. This is one area where I really feel the SA documentation could benefit by having some real world examples. Right now I am just going with the one internal_networks set to the ip of my SA server. I'm not setting any trusted_networks. I

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-22 Thread Sahil Tandon
Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/06/2008 10:45 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually However: # grep trusted

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread mouss
Nigel Frankcom wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually However: #

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Sahil Tandon
Nigel Frankcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:10:53 -0400, Sahil Tandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually This is expected and intentional. Your local cf files are not used

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually This is expected and intentional. Your local cf files are

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, June 21, 2008 20:05, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Should? What good is that lint anyway if it can't be used to test local rules? spamassassin 21 -D --lint | less does it confirm ? Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 21/06/2008 2:05 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually This is expected

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Sahil Tandon
Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure trusted_networks manually This is expected

Re: trusted_networks set in local.cf, but not according to sa-update

2008-06-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 21/06/2008 10:45 PM, Sahil Tandon wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/06/2008 1:10 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote: I see the following when running sa-update with debug flags: [20528] dbg: conf: trusted_networks are not configured; it is recommended that you configure

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, June 14, 2008 02:09, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Thank you, now my trusted_networks line looks like this: trusted_networks 192.168/16 208.47.184.3 208.47.184.2 Is that correct? Do I need the 192.168/16 entry? I don't have it, my 10/8 lan network.. in my trusted. I think your can throw it

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, June 14, 2008 02:42, Chris wrote: Thanks, I'll discard it then, appreciate the help. so one more time, you now test remote servers ip that use rfc1918 servers pools waste Benny Pedersen Need more webspace ? http://www.servage.net/?coupon=cust37098

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 12.06.08 10:25, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: You may put other servers, not under your control, to trusted_networks, if you trust them not to originate spam. ^ Matus, I believe that assertion is

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Thursday 12 June 2008 2:16 am, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: you should put at least your MX backups into trusted_networks AND internal_networks, if there are any. You may put other servers, not under your control, to trusted_networks, if you trust them not to originate spam.

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Hmm, I'm on DSL, so, should I place my IP in trusted_networks? No. Your IP address does not relay mail to you. For instance, I did have this trusted_networks 192.168/16 71.48.160.0/20, however, looking at the received line of the post I initally made, my IP is now 71.51.96.186.

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Chris
On Friday 13 June 2008 11:56 am, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Should I put the IP for mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com on the trusted_networks line? That comes out to be 208.47.184.3. I also had this as internal_networks internal_networks 71.48.160.0/20, is that correct? Yes, if that

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Thank you, now my trusted_networks line looks like this: trusted_networks 192.168/16 208.47.184.3 208.47.184.2 Is that correct? Do I need the 192.168/16 entry? I don't have it, my 10/8 lan network.. in my trusted. I think your can throw it away.

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Chris
On Friday 13 June 2008 7:09 pm, Jari Fredriksson wrote: Thank you, now my trusted_networks line looks like this: trusted_networks 192.168/16 208.47.184.3 208.47.184.2 Is that correct? Do I need the 192.168/16 entry? I don't have it, my 10/8 lan network.. in my trusted. I think your can

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-13 Thread Matt Kettler
John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: You may put other servers, not under your control, to trusted_networks, if you trust them not to originate spam. ^ Matus, I believe that assertion is incorrect... Actually, that's

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 11.06.08 21:11, Chris wrote: If I do not control any mail servers is it necessary for the trusted networks line to be set in my local.cf? If so, what addresses would I enter there? I'm asking this because of this line in the Wiki: Generally you want trusted_networks set to contain all

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-12 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: You may put other servers, not under your control, to trusted_networks, if you trust them not to originate spam. ^ Matus, I believe that assertion is incorrect... -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-12 Thread Chris
On Thursday 12 June 2008 2:16 am, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 11.06.08 21:11, Chris wrote: If I do not control any mail servers is it necessary for the trusted networks line to be set in my local.cf? If so, what addresses would I enter there? I'm asking this because of this line in the

Re: trusted_networks

2008-06-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Chris wrote: If I do not control any mail servers is it necessary for the trusted networks line to be set in my local.cf? In most cases you want to trust all the mailservers the MX back. If you don't control any mailservers at all, then you would substitute to trusting your ISPs mailsers.

Re: trusted_networks and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_*

2007-10-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
For this, SA 3.2.* has its own rules for DNSWL, which you throw away with your custom rule, since they are identically named. The built-in rule for SA 3.2.* is: header RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW eval:check_rbl_sub('dnswl-firsttrusted', '127.0.\d+.1') describe RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW

Re: trusted_networks and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_*

2007-10-19 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 18.10.07 17:32, Lars Ippich wrote: Now I added IPs to trusted_networks and that causes another problem: The trusted_network IPs are in the DNSWL and therefore get a positive bonus from SA. I guess that's the meaning of trusted_networks setting (or at least one of its meanings) Hm,

Re: trusted_networks and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_*

2007-10-18 Thread Matthias Leisi
Now I added IPs to trusted_networks and that causes another problem: The trusted_network IPs are in the DNSWL and therefore get a positive bonus from SA. Hm, somehow I can't follow what you're trying to do. Can you post the relevant parts of your configuration? I did not find a solution to

Re: trusted_networks and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_*

2007-10-18 Thread Lars Ippich
Matthias, Now I added IPs to trusted_networks and that causes another problem: The trusted_network IPs are in the DNSWL and therefore get a positive bonus from SA. Hm, somehow I can't follow what you're trying to do. Can you post the relevant parts of your configuration? Sure: header

Re: trusted_networks and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_*

2007-10-18 Thread Alex Woick
Lars Ippich schrieb am 18.10.2007 09:32: header RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOWX-DNS-Whitelist =~ /^low/ scoreRCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW-1 describe RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOWSender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [...] # web.de trusted_networks217.72.192. 2) Postfix adds the

RE: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread Dan Barker
xx and xxx are not integers between 0 and 255. Dan -Original Message- From: Peter Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:19 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Trusted_networks Hello, i notice after a lint test the following errors [2832] warn:

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread Peter Russell
Sorry, answered it myself - i had coffee, looked at it again and removed the commas. Copy n paste from main.cf to local.cf might not always be the best way to approach config changes for SA :) Sorry to bother you Peter Russell wrote: Hello, i notice after a lint test the following errors

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Peter Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, i notice after a lint test the following errors [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.1.0.0/16,' [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.2.0.0/16,' [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given:

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Peter Russell wrote: Hello, i notice after a lint test the following errors [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.1.0.0/16,' [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.2.0.0/16,' [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24,' I have the

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, Peter Russell wrote: I have the following set for trusted networks trusted_networks xx.1.0.0/16, xx.2.0.0/16, xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24, 127.0.0.0/8 What have i dont wrong? Lose the commas. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread ram01
Drop the node part of the address i.e. if I wanted 10.1.1.0/24 use 10.1.1/24 Peter Russell-4 wrote: Hello, i notice after a lint test the following errors [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.1.0.0/16,' [2832] warn: netset: illegal network address given: 'xx.2.0.0/16,'

Re: Trusted_networks

2007-03-20 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
ram01 wrote: Drop the node part of the address i.e. if I wanted 10.1.1.0/24 use 10.1.1/24 That actually makes no difference.

Re: trusted_networks confusion--simple case

2006-07-03 Thread Ross Boylan
On Sat, 2006-07-01 at 03:55 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: ... Hopefully I've clarified any remaining questions about this. If I haven't maybe Matt, Bowie, Kelson or someone else will take a whack at it. I'm four hours into a public holiday so I now get to bill you twice as much!

Re: trusted_networks confusion--simple case (clarification)

2006-07-01 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 6/30/2006 11:08 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: To clear up an ambiguity in my original: On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 19:19 -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Does a machine that is not part of my domain qualify as a client? Suppose my MTA is contacted by a dial-up IP for somewhere.com (not my domain), and that I

Re: trusted_networks confusion--simple case

2006-07-01 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 6/30/2006 10:19 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 18:00 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Ross Boylan wrote: Well, I've obviously missed something. In this message I will focus exclusively on the question of whether a host that receives messages from dial-up hosts should go on

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-30 Thread Ben Wylie
No. Internal only if it's not directly accepting mail from client IPs that you WANT to accept mail from. MXes and everything (internal relays) after them are ALWAYS in both trusted and internal networks. This is what tells SA that mail was sent directly from questionable IPs to your

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-30 Thread Ross Boylan
Well, I've obviously missed something. In this message I will focus exclusively on the question of whether a host that receives messages from dial-up hosts should go on internal_networks. Assume for simplicity I have a mail domain b.c. The MX records point to a.b.c. I'm running SA on a.b.c for

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
I'm going to skip to the end pretty quick... where I tell you exactly the config YOU need (except I don't know your IPs, so you'll have to fill that in). Ross Boylan wrote: Well, I've obviously missed something. In this message I will focus exclusively on the question of whether a host that

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-30 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Earthlink mail servers are ABSODAMNLUTELY not part of my internal network. But if I do not list them with trusted

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-30 Thread jdow
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] internal network stuff This inspired me to make a brute force test. Something has changed in the machine's configuration that allows me to remove all references to internal or trusted networks and still run without ALL_TRUSTED coming up and bugging me.

Re: trusted_networks confusion--authentication

2006-06-30 Thread Ross Boylan
Now for the 3 tests as they apply to my non-hypothetical case. On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 01:45 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: [..] Mail Submission Agent... accepts mail from your own clients' MUAs (also known as UAs). You can not add your MSA to your internal_networks unless you can do one

Re: trusted_networks confusion--simple case (clarification)

2006-06-30 Thread Ross Boylan
To clear up an ambiguity in my original: On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 19:19 -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: Does a machine that is not part of my domain qualify as a client? Suppose my MTA is contacted by a dial-up IP for somewhere.com (not my domain), and that I do want to accept such mail. The human

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Ross Boylan wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 01:45:52AM -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Ross Boylan wrote: For 99% of systems there's no need to worry about listing systems that aren't a part of your mail network in your trusted_networks (and never list them in your internal_networks). Keep

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Bart Schaefer
On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted?

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Bart Schaefer wrote: On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? NEVER. Newer versions of SA won't even allow you to

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Bart Schaefer
On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bart Schaefer wrote: Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? NEVER. Newer versions of SA won't even allow you to make that misconfiguration. Ah, good. That's as I expected. (So why doesn't SA

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Bart Schaefer wrote: On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bart Schaefer wrote: Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? NEVER. Newer versions of SA won't even allow you to make that misconfiguration. Ah, good. That's as I

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread John D. Hardin
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Bart Schaefer wrote: Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? NEVER. Newer versions of SA won't even allow you to make that misconfiguration. What, you *trust* all your users? :) -- John Hardin

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread jdow
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ross Boylan wrote: ... Maybe it will help to be concrete. I'll use made up names to foil spambots: People send me mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] b.edu has an MX record. I use fetchmail to pull my mail off a.b.edu, the actual host machine the MX

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread jdow
From: Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? One example is when you are using

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread jdow
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart Schaefer wrote: On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? NEVER.

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
jdow wrote: From: Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted? One example is when you

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart Schaefer wrote: On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something as internal but not trusted?

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote: From: Bart Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one list something

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-29 Thread jdow
From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] jdow wrote: From: Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart Schaefer wrote: On 6/29/06, Daryl C. W. O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVERYTHING after an MX MUST be listed as BOTH trusted and internal networks. Under what circumstances would one

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-27 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Nothing trimmed in an attempt to keep things somewhat coherent... Ross Boylan wrote: Thank you for your very clear answers. I have a few follow-up questions below. On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 23:44 -0400, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: On 6/21/2006 4:39 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: After reading the

Re: trusted_networks confusion

2006-06-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
On 6/21/2006 4:39 PM, Ross Boylan wrote: After reading the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf (spamassassin 3.1.3-1 on Debian) I was unclear about trusted vs internal networks. After reviewing previous emails on this list, here's what I think it is: trusted_networks for hosts I trust to put good info in

Re: trusted_networks seems to be ignored after upgrade

2006-03-11 Thread Eric W. Bates
Matt Kettler wrote: ... Is the whole trusted_net, dnsbl business written up somewhere? I would rather not waste your time; but searching the wiki doesn't turn anything up. Not really, but I can go over it really fast.. First, SA parses all the received headers, in backward order,

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