Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-12 Thread Axb
Fuglu docs are extensive. you shouldn't need help to get started off On 7/12/20 12:54 PM, Matthew Broadhead wrote: mailing is shut down https://gitlab.com/fumail/fuglu/-/issues/30 On 11/07/2020 20:35, Benny Pedersen wrote: Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-11 10:11: fuglu looks nice.  it

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-12 Thread Matthew Broadhead
mailing is shut down https://gitlab.com/fumail/fuglu/-/issues/30 On 11/07/2020 20:35, Benny Pedersen wrote: Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-11 10:11: fuglu looks nice.  it even handles the vacation messages from database, whereas i have been struggling with sieve. can it train the Bayes as

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-12 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i might try this docker-mailserver docker project https://github.com/tomav/docker-mailserver/wiki/FAQ-and-Tips#how-can-i-make-spamassassin-learn-spam On 11/07/2020 20:50, Benny Pedersen wrote: Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-11 19:15: because my box is centos 7 i think i am going to grab

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-11 19:15: because my box is centos 7 i think i am going to grab an old box and stick centos 8 on there and start from scratch with a small domain. precompiled problems is not my cop of tea like postfix, dovecot (full text search), fuglu (spamassassim,

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-11 10:11: fuglu looks nice.  it even handles the vacation messages from database, whereas i have been struggling with sieve. can it train the Bayes as well? i see no problem in sieve Bayes learning, its documented in wiki from dovecot how to make this work

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-11 Thread Matthew Broadhead
because my box is centos 7 i think i am going to grab an old box and stick centos 8 on there and start from scratch with a small domain. like postfix, dovecot (full text search), fuglu (spamassassim, clamav, dkim, spf, vacation) .  would be nice to build everything with docker so that the

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-11 Thread Axb
On 7/11/20 10:11 AM, Matthew Broadhead wrote: fuglu looks nice.  it even handles the vacation messages from database, whereas i have been struggling with sieve. can it train the bayes as well? nope - bayes learning is handled by SA's sa-learn (see docs) fuglu is just glue between your MTA

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-11 Thread Matthew Broadhead
fuglu looks nice.  it even handles the vacation messages from database, whereas i have been struggling with sieve. can it train the bayes as well? On 10/07/2020 23:00, Benny Pedersen wrote: Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-10 11:02: i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:26:17 +0200 Matthew Broadhead wrote: > i am starting to remember that sa-learn is being called from dovecot Previously you indicated that you had 755293 ham trained (from 788787-33494). Unless you have an extreme number of FPs your training is mostly from auto-learning. >

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-10 13:00: i have 788787 messages in my bayes_seen directory.  33494 are flagged 's'.  i am not sure why it seems to have no effect on the spam coming through diffrent bayes user in user_prefs incorrect amavisd bayes user mapping pr recipient hardcoded

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matthew Broadhead skrev den 2020-07-10 11:02: i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful.  is there a definitive guide on setting this up on postfix with amavis?  if my user were the one that was training it for the other users that would be ideal are you sure

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc Roos skrev den 2020-07-10 12:10: You can add rspamd they have all inclusive soluation and they do not even like if you want to customize the 3000 line counting configuration file to do just one check. i find that its hard to configure rspamd, thats one of the reasons i dropped trying

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.07.20 17:35, Matthew Broadhead wrote: should i be going to the dovecot team with this problem? On 10/07/2020 14:26, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i am starting to remember that sa-learn is being called from dovecot yeah, very good idea. in dovecot/conf.d/90-plugin.conf i have plugin {   #

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
should i be going to the dovecot team with this problem? On 10/07/2020 14:26, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i am starting to remember that sa-learn is being called from dovecot in dovecot/conf.d/90-plugin.conf i have plugin {   # man antispam   #setting_name = value   antispam_debug_target = syslog

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i am starting to remember that sa-learn is being called from dovecot in dovecot/conf.d/90-plugin.conf i have plugin {   # man antispam   #setting_name = value   antispam_debug_target = syslog   antispam_verbose_debug = 1   antispam_backend = pipe   antispam_signature = X-DSPAM-Signature   #

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
it is manual training.  i have been looking through the configuration but i cannot figure out how it is set up.  i think it works when email is moved in and out of spam directory .  i will keep looking and report back if i remember how it was set up. in the meantime i sent a message to the

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.07.20 13:16, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i mean bayes_seen table in my MySQL database where did you configure bayes to use mysql? are you sure amavis uses it? and... did you train manually or do you completely rely on automatic training? On 10/07/2020 13:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
If you don't know much about Bayes and aren't training HAM and SPAM, it's likely got improper bias.  I'd recommend adding KAM.cf (see my other email) and disable Bayesian and see how it looks. On 7/10/2020 7:00 AM, Matthew Broadhead wrote: > i have 788787 messages in my bayes_seen directory. 

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
> But still a lot of spam comes spamassassin and I wondered if there was a > really great guide out there which might tell me how to tune the spam > filter. Hi Matthew, I would recommend you add KAM.cf Ruleset and see if that helps. https://mcgrail.com/downloads/KAM.cf

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Axb
On 7/10/20 11:02 AM, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful.  is there a definitive guide on setting this up on postfix with amavis?  if my user were the one that was training it for the other users that would be ideal unless you

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i mean bayes_seen table in my MySQL database On 10/07/2020 13:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.07.20 13:00, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i have 788787 messages in my your? bayes_seen directory what is the bayes_seen directory? I have bayes_seen file, which is part of the bayes

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.07.20 13:00, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i have 788787 messages in my your? bayes_seen directory what is the bayes_seen directory? I have bayes_seen file, which is part of the bayes database. .  33494 are flagged 's'.  i am not sure why it seems to have no effect on the spam coming

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i have 788787 messages in my bayes_seen directory.  33494 are flagged 's'.  i am not sure why it seems to have no effect on the spam coming through On 10/07/2020 11:40, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.07.20 11:02, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i set it up a long time ago and i have never had any success with it.  i can post a copy of my configurations. local.cf required_hits 5.0 report_safe 0 required_score 5 rewrite_header Subject [SPAM] use_bayes  1 bayes_auto_learn   1 bayes_auto_expire  1 # Store bayesian data in MySQL

RE: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Marc Roos
:58 To: users Subject: Really simple setup guide Hi, I am running postfix, dovecot, amavis, spamassassin and clamav on centos 7. Everything is working great, and if I send an email with the spam signature on it it gets blocked by spamassassin. But still a lot of spam comes spamassassin and I

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 10 July 2020 at 11:02:23, Matthew Broadhead wrote: > i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful. It would be helpful to know what gives you that feeling. How are you training and how are you testing? > is there a definitive guide on setting this up on

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.07.20 11:02, Matthew Broadhead wrote: i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful.  bayes need some time and some mails to learn until it starts hitting. You can help it by training manually, using bayes database in amavis' home directory. You also should

Re: Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
i tried to set up bayes training before but i feel that i was unsuccessful.  is there a definitive guide on setting this up on postfix with amavis?  if my user were the one that was training it for the other users that would be ideal On 10/07/2020 10:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 10.07.20 um

Really simple setup guide

2020-07-10 Thread Matthew Broadhead
Hi, I am running postfix, dovecot, amavis, spamassassin and clamav on centos 7. Everything is working great, and if I send an email with the spam signature on it it gets blocked by spamassassin. But still a lot of spam comes spamassassin and I wondered if there was a really great guide out