Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-08 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, December 08, 2006 12:20 AM -0500 Duncan Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good point. Those of us packaging SpamAssassin for distributions should think about this. :-) Will it be okay if all Debian users start running sa-update on the same minute of the hour? Are those

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Justin Mason
Jason Haar writes: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: What's stopping you from running sa-update more frequently? I run it once an hour on most of my systems. May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) I'm thinking of lessons learned with ClamAV. Once upon a

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 09:31:36AM +, Justin Mason wrote: and got freshclam to run as a daemon - so it could randomly sleep between lookups - and thus spread the load. I can think of a useful modification -- change sa-update so that, if it's run non-interactively, it sleeps for a

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Kelson
Jason Haar wrote: May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) Merging would be bad. There are plenty of us using methods other than spamd to call SpamAssassin. -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications www.speed.net

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Jim Maul
Kelson wrote: Jason Haar wrote: May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) Merging would be bad. There are plenty of us using methods other than spamd to call SpamAssassin. I dont think anyone is using spamd to call SpamAssassin.

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Justin Mason
Jim Maul writes: Kelson wrote: Jason Haar wrote: May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) Merging would be bad. There are plenty of us using methods other than spamd to call SpamAssassin. I dont think anyone is using spamd to call

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Jim Maul
Justin Mason wrote: Jim Maul writes: Kelson wrote: Jason Haar wrote: May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) Merging would be bad. There are plenty of us using methods other than spamd to call SpamAssassin. I dont think anyone is using spamd to call

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Justin Mason
Jim Maul writes: Justin Mason wrote: Jim Maul writes: Kelson wrote: Jason Haar wrote: May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) Merging would be bad. There are plenty of us using methods other than spamd to call SpamAssassin. I dont think

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Jim Maul wrote: oh? Care to explain how spamd would call spamassassin? That would be a neat trick ;) Neat, but really simple with the plugin interface. :)

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 01:38:54PM -0500, Jim Maul wrote: I dont think anyone is using spamd to call SpamAssassin. oh? Care to explain how spamd would call spamassassin? That would be a neat trick ;) Alright... I'm being pedantic, but you're confusing spamassassin and SpamAssassin.

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 08:56:45PM +1300, Jason Haar wrote: If all SA users set sa-update to run hourly - then when an update comes out, you will have *all* SA users contacting the same sites simultaneously for the downloads. Och... That's a good point. Those of us packaging SpamAssassin

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-07 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Duncan Findlay wrote: Anyways... maybe I should get back to doing something useful like studying for tomorrow's exam... Boo exams... road trip! I hear the 401 is fun at this time of year. ;)

Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Matthias Leisi
For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense to have them fast - fast as in continuously updated. As such, DNS

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:26:08PM +0100, Matthias Leisi wrote: For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthias Leisi wrote: For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense to have them fast - fast as in continuously

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:26 PM +0100 Matthias Leisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, DNS could be used as a transport mechanism with reasonably chosen TTLs. sa-update already uses DNS to check for new updates. The record provides the latest version of the update rule set. The

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Jason Haar
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: What's stopping you from running sa-update more frequently? I run it once an hour on most of my systems. May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) I'm thinking of lessons learned with ClamAV. Once upon a time they relied on people