Re: Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-10 Thread Robert S
Fixed this by upgrading SA to 3.2.4

Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-07 Thread Robert S
I have started, over the last few months, getting a lot of plain text scam messages (Nigerian type scams, lottery wins etc etc). Previously I had almost none of these. Unfortunately I'd need to send rather a lot of information about my configs, and log files to help, but can anybody point me

Re: Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-07 Thread mouss
Robert S wrote: I have started, over the last few months, getting a lot of plain text scam messages (Nigerian type scams, lottery wins etc etc). Previously I had almost none of these. Unfortunately I'd need to send rather a lot of information about my configs, and log files to help, but can

Re: Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-07 Thread ram
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 22:41 +1100, Robert S wrote: I have started, over the last few months, getting a lot of plain text scam messages (Nigerian type scams, lottery wins etc etc). Previously I had almost none of these. Unfortunately I'd need to send rather a lot of information about my

Re: Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-07 Thread Kevin Golding
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes But ultimately this boils down to end user education. Recipients must realize that no one from Africa is going to transfer all the millions of dollars in an unknown account , or there is nothing called as a national lottery in the united

Re: Lots of scam messages getting through SA

2008-03-07 Thread Robert S
Have you added the sought rules from http://taint.org/2007/08/15/004348a.html With these rules and my custom rules I catch 99% of these But I keep getting some 2-5 daily complaints yet from customers I think you're right about the source of these scams. I've installed this according

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Phil, Bill, Mark, I patched Dns.pm but this didn't resolve the issue for me. You can test with the sample messages I posted to bugzilla: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 I was getting this sort of symptom without using Botnet. It's almost as if something's

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/15/2007 3:36 AM -0800: Phil, Bill, Mark, I patched Dns.pm but this didn't resolve the issue for me. You can test with the sample messages I posted to bugzilla: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 I was getting this

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Bill, There is now an additional patch at: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 which should fix this. Mark, thanks for the patches. However, even with both Dns.pm patches applied, unless I set rbl_timeout to a high enough time interval, SA still misses the

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Mark Martinec
...a bug pause here... bug - big (29 seconds)

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/15/2007 10:41 AM -0800: Bill, There is now an additional patch at: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 which should fix this. Mark, thanks for the patches. However, even with both Dns.pm patches applied, unless I

RE: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Randal, Phil
@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: These are getting through SA... Mark, thanks for the patches. However, even with both Dns.pm patches applied, unless I set rbl_timeout to a high enough time interval, SA still misses the URIBL test results in the sample messages I posted in bugzilla 5506. For example

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Randal, Phil wrote the following on 6/15/2007 2:08 PM -0800: Bill, The problem is that Botnet uses Net::DNS::Resolver's default retry and timeout values, which are way too high. Spamassassin's DnsResolver.pm uses these values: udp_timeout:3 tcp_timeout:3 retrans:0 retry:1 try

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Mark Martinec
Bill, Hmmm, once I patched the correct SA version Dns.pm file, Mark's patches worked fine. However, perhaps my error caused Mark to find a bug, as noted by his follow-up e-mail, which might have gone undetected otherwise. :-) Indeed, thanks! (but there were two other similar reports as

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/15/2007 2:34 PM -0800: So far so good with Mark's patches - although I am awaiting his follow-up regarding a possible bug... Not sure I understand this. My fixes make SA more robust when plugins misbehave. The Botnet problem still causes the mail

RE: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 22:08 +0100, Randal, Phil wrote: Bill, The problem is that Botnet uses Net::DNS::Resolver's default retry and timeout values, which are way too high. Spamassassin's DnsResolver.pm uses these values: udp_timeout:3 tcp_timeout:3 retrans:0 retry:1 And a

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread John Rudd
Bill Landry wrote: Also, I'm not sure if John Rudd is still supporting Botnet or not, since I have sent him 3 e-mails to the address listed in Botnet.pm off-list over the past week about this, and asked him if he would consider adding user configurable timeout values, but have not received

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread John Rudd
John Rudd wrote: Bill Landry wrote: Also, I'm not sure if John Rudd is still supporting Botnet or not, since I have sent him 3 e-mails to the address listed in Botnet.pm off-list over the past week about this, and asked him if he would consider adding user configurable timeout values, but

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
John Rudd wrote the following on 6/15/2007 3:00 PM -0800: Bill Landry wrote: Also, I'm not sure if John Rudd is still supporting Botnet or not, since I have sent him 3 e-mails to the address listed in Botnet.pm off-list over the past week about this, and asked him if he would consider

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Daniel J McDonald wrote the following on 6/15/2007 2:54 PM -0800: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 22:08 +0100, Randal, Phil wrote: Bill, The problem is that Botnet uses Net::DNS::Resolver's default retry and timeout values, which are way too high. Spamassassin's DnsResolver.pm uses these values:

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 15:27 -0700, Bill Landry wrote: Daniel J McDonald wrote the following on 6/15/2007 2:54 PM -0800: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 22:08 +0100, Randal, Phil wrote: And a few others... Might as well be completely consistent. Try this patch: --- Botnet.pm.orig 2007-06-15

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Landry
Daniel J McDonald wrote the following on 6/15/2007 3:37 PM -0800: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 15:27 -0700, Bill Landry wrote: Daniel J McDonald wrote the following on 6/15/2007 2:54 PM -0800: On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 22:08 +0100, Randal, Phil wrote: And a few others... Might as well be

RE: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-13 Thread Randal, Phil
-Original Message- From: Bill Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2007 23:30 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: These are getting through SA... Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/12/2007 3:05 PM -0800: Bill, Mark, just curious if you are running Botnet

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-13 Thread Mark Martinec
Phil, What happens if Botnet is patched to use Mail::SpamAssassin::DnsResolver instead of Net::DNS::Resolver? I'm musuing about Net::DNS::Resolver's default timeouts and retries... Phil (probably barking up the wrong tree) It would do good if Botnet would impose a time limit on its DNS

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Martinec
Luis, I don't have any URIBL rules firing up (SA 3.2.0 from source here, most of the other relevant info is in the header of the mail I sent before to test). Where did you get them? [...] But the main difference between the live run and the ones I did with SA by itself (both as root and as

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Well, I dint't have rbl_timeout set, but after your mail, I did. The DNSs I have set in resolv.conf are mine, they both cache and work as internal and external resolvers. But the UNLP NOC got screwed in the last days, so setting the timeout a little higher wont't hurt. Thanks for the suggestion.

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Martinec
Luis, Namely with 22 RBL results coming back, the last one (which was the crucial URIBL test) had a timeout of 0 and was ignored even though dns result did arrive. Moreover, there is a bug in Mail::SpamAssassin::Dns, where a late-spawned URIBL queries (which only start after Razor,

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Bill Landry
Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/12/2007 3:53 AM -0800: Luis, I don't have any URIBL rules firing up (SA 3.2.0 from source here, most of the other relevant info is in the header of the mail I sent before to test). Where did you get them? [...] But the main difference between the live

RE: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Randal, Phil
-Original Message- From: Mark Martinec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2007 17:20 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: These are getting through SA... Luis, Namely with 22 RBL results coming back, the last one (which was the crucial URIBL test) had a timeout of 0

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Martinec
Bill, Mark, just curious if you are running Botnet? I found that some messages cause the Botnet RDNS test to timeout after hanging for about 30 seconds, and then network test randomly fail (primarily URIBL tests). I found that if I disable Botnet, then all network tests will run fine on

RE: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Randal, Phil
: Re: These are getting through SA... Mark, just curious if you are running Botnet? I found that some messages cause the Botnet RDNS test to timeout after hanging for about 30 seconds, and then network test randomly fail (primarily URIBL tests). I found that if I disable Botnet, then all

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Bill Landry
Mark Martinec wrote the following on 6/12/2007 3:05 PM -0800: Bill, Mark, just curious if you are running Botnet? I found that some messages cause the Botnet RDNS test to timeout after hanging for about 30 seconds, and then network test randomly fail (primarily URIBL tests). I found that

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-12 Thread Mark Martinec
Bill, Mark, I patched Dns.pm but this didn't resolve the issue for me. You can test with the sample messages I posted to bugzilla: http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5506 Yes, it is the same problem as I describe in

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! They aren't scoring very much here... Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nahuel.biol.unlp.edu.ar (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660BE7B1FE; Fri, 8 Jun 2007

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread arni
Luis Hernán Otegui schrieb: Hi, could somebody run this mail trough SA and give me the scores? They aren't scoring very much here... Hi, your mailing probably broke half of the email so these scores are only an estimate - if you want me to try again attach the mail as a raw text (or .eml as

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hi, Raymond, I don't have any URIBL rules firing up (SA 3.2.0 from source here, most of the other relevant info is in the header of the mail I sent before to test). Where did you get them? Thanks, Luis 2007/6/8, Raymond Dijkxhoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! They aren't scoring very much

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Hi, Raymond, I don't have any URIBL rules firing up (SA 3.2.0 from source here, most of the other relevant info is in the header of the mail I sent before to test). Where did you get them? Run sa-update to get URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_GREY. Daryl

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Hi, Raymond, I don't have any URIBL rules firing up (SA 3.2.0 from source here, most of the other relevant info is in the header of the mail I sent before to test). Where did you get them? X-Prolocation-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=14.999, required 5,

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Well, right now I'm running these commands to get updates: sa-update --gpgkey GPGKEY --channel saupdates.openprotect.com sa-update --gpgkey GPGKEY --channel updates.spamassassin.org sa-update doesn't download URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_GREY What am I doing wrong? Luis 2007/6/8, Daryl C. W.

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread ian douglas
X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.964 tagged_above=-100 required=5 tests=[BAYES_99=3.5, HTML_30_40=0.463, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] To me, it looks like enough tokens were seen to flag it as BAYES_99, but that the host and IP it came from didn't trigger any RBL hits, which left your point score well

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
If you've got the current update from updates.spamassassin.org you've got a working set of rules for URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_GREY. It turns out that they didn't hit for Raymond either, so you won't see them in this case. Daryl Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: Well, right now I'm running these

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
OK, i?ve been googlin' around, and it seems like an issue between Amavis (or MailScanner, for waht I've found) and some unsupported versions of Net::DNS, because when I run the message through SA by itself, this comes out: Content analysis details: (9.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Bill Landry
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote the following on 6/8/2007 2:41 PM -0800: If you've got the current update from updates.spamassassin.org you've got a working set of rules for URIBL_BLACK and URIBL_GREY. It turns out that they didn't hit for Raymond either, so you won't see them in this case. Daryl

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread guenther
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:46 -0300, Luis Hernán Otegui wrote: OK, i?ve been googlin' around, and it seems like an issue between Amavis (or MailScanner, for waht I've found) and some unsupported versions of Net::DNS, because when I run the message through SA by itself, this comes out: Whatever

Re: These are getting through SA...

2007-06-08 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
What I copied and pasted into my message was the original spammy message (the source of it) as IMP showed it. The posterior ALL_TRUSTED occured because it has already been scanned and tagged by my servers. But the main difference between the live run and the ones I did with SA by itself (both as

Problem pr0n mail getting through SA

2004-12-09 Thread Steve Bondy
REMOVED_BY_THE_EXCHANGE_CONTENT_SCANNING_SERVICE_5CAE6CF4_4927_EThe original message content contained a virus or was blocked due to blocking rules and has been removed.