Re: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, December 5, 2006, 11:59:17 PM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Hi All, I was just going through the overnight spam and cam across a load of very definite FP's. SURBL seems to be firing on legitimate domains. A check on http://www.rulesemporium.com/cgi-bin/uribl.cgi showed none of the

Re: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 00:40:38 -0800, Jeff Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, December 5, 2006, 11:59:17 PM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Hi All, I was just going through the overnight spam and cam across a load of very definite FP's. SURBL seems to be firing on legitimate domains. A check on

Re: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:52:09 +, Nigel Frankcom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 00:40:38 -0800, Jeff Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, December 5, 2006, 11:59:17 PM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: Hi All, I was just going through the overnight spam and cam across a load of very

Re: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 1:41:11 AM, Nigel Frankcom wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:52:09 +, Nigel Frankcom Oookay... now it's stopped. Sometime between 08:36 and 09:33 GMT. The SURBL headers have stopped appearing in every mail. I've made no changes. I ran --lint which showed no

Re: SURBL confusion

2006-12-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Hi Jeff, Below are the headers from 3 emails in chronological order. The 1st has no headers, a couple of minutes later the 2nd has them, then after that the 3rd (and all subsequent ones) don't. I have no clue what's going on. I've check all my local DNS and they appear to be working fine. Can

trouble calling spamc from within postfix

2006-12-06 Thread Mathias Homann
Hi, I'm trying to use spamassassin 3.1.7 from within postfix 2.2.10 on a redhat ES4 server, (loosely) following the directions in http://www.debuntu.org/postfix-and-pamassassin-how-to-filter-spam (loosely, because 1. its redhat and nbot ubuntu, and 2. there's a kaspersky antivirus involved as

Confused with sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Sujit Choudhury
I have run sa-update. The rules used to be in /usr/share/spamassassin SARE rules + local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin directory. However spamassassin -D --lint now shows the following: [28874] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules pre files [28874] dbg: config: using

sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Sujit Choudhury
I ran sa-update yesterday and today. I get the rules timestamped as follows: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15859 Dec 3 12:32 /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15833 Dec 5 11:22 /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007/updates_spamassassin_org/20_drugs.cf The two dates are different.

Re: SA, DCC rules du jour

2006-12-06 Thread Vernon Webb
Thanks for your response. However I do not know what you mean by this statement: Yes on both accounts, also enable the relevant part in v310.pre .

Re: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Sujit Choudhury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I ran sa-update yesterday and today. I get the rules timestamped as follows: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15859 Dec 3 12:32 /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15833 Dec 5 11:22

RE: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Sujit Choudhury
Yes, using diff I found that only line that is different is the addition of require_version 3.001007. in /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf. - Sujit -Original Message- From: Ralf Hildebrandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2006 11:22 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org

Re: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Sujit Choudhury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, using diff I found that only line that is different is the addition of require_version 3.001007. in /usr/share/spamassassin/20_drugs.cf. But what is your question? OK, one line changed. Maybe somebody forget to add the 3.1.7 dependency and so it was

RE: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Sujit Choudhury
No my question is this: Does sa-update downloads the rules to /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007 and then checks it with the rules in /usr/share/spamassassin and updates the rules if changed? - Sujit -Original Message- From: Ralf Hildebrandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December

Re: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Sujit Choudhury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No my question is this: Does sa-update downloads the rules to /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001007 and then checks it with the rules in /usr/share/spamassassin and updates the rules if changed? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleUpdates Look for: After

RE: sa-update confusing - again

2006-12-06 Thread Sujit Choudhury
Ok, I get it. Thanks. Sujit -Original Message- From: Ralf Hildebrandt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2006 11:43 To: Sujit Choudhury Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: sa-update confusing - again * Sujit Choudhury [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No my question is this:

spamassasin rules

2006-12-06 Thread kailash vyas
Hi, I want to check whether emails that have been sent using my domain.com have originated from my server. Is there a check in spamassasin or exim for that. I am using exim mail server with spamassasin. thanks, kailash

Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Matthias Leisi
For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense to have them fast - fast as in continuously updated. As such, DNS

Re: spamassasin rules

2006-12-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:29:05 +, kailash vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to check whether emails that have been sent using my domain.com have originated from my server. Is there a check in spamassasin or exim for that. I am using exim mail server with spamassasin. thanks, kailash

What's hapen with site exit0.us ?

2006-12-06 Thread Rejaine Monteiro
When I try to access the site http://www.exit0.us/ it is redirect to https://net.infotex.com/ and a login/password is solicited... No longer exists?

catch obfuscate expression

2006-12-06 Thread vertito
there was a thread that catches all combinations of a single word like for the word clouds that expression will catch cl33ouds, cl456abcds , clouds123, abcclouds can anyone paste that expression. tnx

RE: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Coffey, Neal
Nigel Frankcom wrote: I get the following off the SA box (I don't use OpenDNS or any proxying, the rest of my lan uses the same dns that the SA box uses and all is resolving normally) [...] ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: multi.surbl.org.810 IN SOA a.surbl.org. You're not using

Re: Filtering capabilities, filtering features of RMAIL in EMACS

2006-12-06 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Don Saklad wrote: For novice end users, neophytes, emphasis on novice, what filtering capabilities, what features are there?... for RMAIL in EMACS when novice end users begin to take note of the spamassassin headers appearing on messages?... *Novice* end users using Emacs with Rmail?

Re: SURBL Returning FP's on URIs

2006-12-06 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:34:43 -0500, Coffey, Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nigel Frankcom wrote: I get the following off the SA box (I don't use OpenDNS or any proxying, the rest of my lan uses the same dns that the SA box uses and all is resolving normally) [...] ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

SPF test issue

2006-12-06 Thread Thomas Bolioli
I am using the latest and greatest production ver of SA. In it, there is an SPF test and I am having issues with what it is comparing to. Below is the email and the spf record. My emails fail when I remove this ip4:10.1.3 but pass when I put it in. My issue is why is SA looking at the original

RE: spam

2006-12-06 Thread Coffey, Neal
Alan Premselaar wrote: Actually, that'll only hit if there's a 3-5 digit number followed by 1 to 3 \n characters *AND* there *ARE* alphabetical characters in the body. I'm guessing this isn't what you want. your meta should probably look like (!ORNL_B0RKEN1_BODYTEXT

RE: Confused about white/black lists.

2006-12-06 Thread Bowie Bailey
Steven W. Orr wrote: On Monday, Dec 4th 2006 at 23:34 -0500, quoth Theo Van Dinter: On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 10:12:26PM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote: I have some spam getting through that has USER_IN_WHITELIST. I go and look and sher nuff, the From address is there in the email column of

How to add safe image tile to safe db?

2006-12-06 Thread Thiago LPS
Hey Decoder man!! how to add safe image file to safe db? Im using the devel 3.4.2 version.. and all works fine.. except for some good images that they hashs are on the hashdb.. i know that i can remove it using the fuzzy-find.pl and it also works fine.. but i really want to add them to safedb

Re: rules_du_jour not working confusion?

2006-12-06 Thread Alan Munday
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote the following on 06/12/2006 00:31: Advantage over sa-update? Other than the issue with 3.1.6 (only), there shouldn't be any issues with how sa-update lints rules. This is not obvious as there is no mention of linting in the docs

rules_du_jour 1.29 syntax error for 70_sare_stocks.cf

2006-12-06 Thread Eddy Beliveau
Hi! I'm not sure if this is the place to post rules_du_jour problem but the http://sandgnat.com/rdj/rules_du_jour version 1.29 contain an invalid url for 70_sare_stocks.cf CF_URLS[70]=${RULESEMPORIUM}/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf; should be

how to modify headers so sa-learn gives more accurate results?

2006-12-06 Thread Leon Kolchinsky
Hello All, I'm using the following script for reporting Razor and teaching BAYESIAN with ham and spam messages. I have the following questions: --- 1) If I have the following in local.cf: use_bayes1 bayes_auto_learn 1 Starting from what score message

required_score aggressive ??

2006-12-06 Thread R Lists06
When looking up required_score info, as most know, it say that the default is 5.0 and that it is considered aggressive in various circumstances Used to be called required_hits When I first started using SA I was told that as an ISP going in the 4.0 range give or take a little was an excellent

RE: How to add safe image tile to safe db?

2006-12-06 Thread Sietse van Zanen
There is an updated fuzzy-find.pl script available, that has an option to register hashes in a db. Usage: fuzzy-find.pl [Options] (imagehash|imagefile) Available options: --delete Removes the hash from the database --learn-ham Add the hash as ham to the database --learn-spam Add the hash as

Re: required_score aggressive ??

2006-12-06 Thread Kris Deugau
R Lists06 wrote: When looking up required_score info, as most know, it say that the default is 5.0 and that it is considered aggressive in various circumstances Used to be called required_hits When I first started using SA I was told that as an ISP going in the 4.0 range give or take a little

RE: required_score aggressive ??

2006-12-06 Thread Sietse van Zanen
I use sendmail and spamassassin-milter. I configured SA to tag messages as spam if they score 6.0 points. The milter rejects if the score gets above 15. I use every plugin available, dcc, fuzzy, razor, pyzor, DNSBL etc, so usually spam scores above 15, and I have never seen a false positive with a

Re: How to add safe image tile to safe db?

2006-12-06 Thread Thiago LPS
where can I get it? im using the script that comes with fuzzyocr-3.4.2-devel.tar.gz package On 12/6/06, Sietse van Zanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an updated fuzzy-find.pl script available, that has an option to register hashes in a db. Usage: fuzzy-find.pl [Options]

Re: Confused about white/black lists.

2006-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 10:43:51PM -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote: = I have some spam getting through that has USER_IN_WHITELIST. I go and look =USER_IN_WHITELIST has nothing to do with the AWL. You'll want to find your =whitelist_from/whitelist_from_rcvd entry that matches the mail. I promise

just wanting to say thanks!

2006-12-06 Thread snowcrash+spamassassin
i've installed spamassassin 318 branch with 'botnet', 'imageinfo' 'fuzzyocr' plugins. i stay regularly updated via sa-update with distro SARE rules. i've got a well-trained bayes system. my servers see ~ 4-5K messages a day; yes, tiny volume by many standards. i admit to 'cheating' by

how to update rules in 3.0

2006-12-06 Thread Andrea Fino
Hi to all, what system is the preferred one to keep update 3.0 spamassassin installations? Regards, Andrea Fino -- Andrea Fino 8-) - Sistemi su misura di qualita' industriale Handcrafted systems with industrial quality [Web: http://www.faino.org ]+[Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]

Re: how to update rules in 3.0

2006-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 05:29:25PM +0100, Andrea Fino wrote: what system is the preferred one to keep update 3.0 spamassassin installations? Upgrade to 3.1, then run sa-update. ;) No, seriously. 3.0 has no real way to update the rules, other than upgrading the code, but there are generally

Re: required_score aggressive ??

2006-12-06 Thread Ray Anderson
I use a required_score of 3 and so far have had zero positives (more than 3 years running). I have customers that also run 3 and have opted to have the server /discard/ the message (not quarantine, but /DISCARD/) if it is identified as spam. So far none of those users have complained about

Re: RulesDuJour 1.29 - SARE Stocks Ruleset) not found (404)

2006-12-06 Thread Chris Thielen
Sorry about that! It's fixed now and 1.29b is available on the web site. Max Matslofva wrote: Hi RulesDuJour 1.29 tries to fetch 70_sare_stocks.cf from http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/rules/70_sare_stocks.cf The correct URL for 70_sare_stocks.cf is

Re: required_score aggressive ??

2006-12-06 Thread Rob Mangiafico
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Ray Anderson wrote: I use a required_score of 3 and so far have had zero positives (more than 3 years running). I have customers that also run 3 and have opted to have the server /discard/ the message (not quarantine, but /DISCARD/) if it is identified as spam. So

Re: how to modify headers so sa-learn gives more accurate results?

2006-12-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Leon Kolchinsky wrote: Hello All, I'm using the following script for reporting Razor and teaching BAYESIAN with ham and spam messages. I have the following questions: --- 1) If I have the following in local.cf: use_bayes1 bayes_auto_learn 1 Starting

Re: rules_du_jour not working confusion?

2006-12-06 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Alan Munday wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote the following on 06/12/2006 00:31: Advantage over sa-update? Other than the issue with 3.1.6 (only), there shouldn't be any issues with how sa-update lints rules. This is not obvious as there is no mention of linting in the docs

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 01:26:08PM +0100, Matthias Leisi wrote: For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense

sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Thomas Bolioli
when I run sa-update it puts new copies of the tests in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001005/updates_spamassassin_org which I understand from the docs is the correct location. However, the default tests remain in /usr/share/spamassassin/ and I believe they are still being used. How is this supposed

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Duane Hill
Thomas Bolioli wrote: when I run sa-update it puts new copies of the tests in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001005/updates_spamassassin_org which I understand from the docs is the correct location. However, the default tests remain in /usr/share/spamassassin/ and I believe they are still being

Re: trouble calling spamc from within postfix

2006-12-06 Thread Noel Jones
On 12/6/06, Mathias Homann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use spamassassin 3.1.7 from within postfix 2.2.10 on a redhat ES4 server, (loosely) following the directions in http://www.debuntu.org/postfix-and-pamassassin-how-to-filter-spam (loosely, because 1. its redhat and nbot

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Rick Mallett
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Duane Hill wrote: Thomas Bolioli wrote: when I run sa-update it puts new copies of the tests in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001005/updates_spamassassin_org which I understand from the docs is the correct location. However, the default tests remain in /usr/share/spamassassin/

bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large request

2006-12-06 Thread Josephus
FreeBSD 6.1 p5-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.1.7_1 amavisd-new-2.4.3_1,1 And I have this error almost every time when amavisd calls SA. bayes: expire_old_tokens: Out of memory during ridiculously large request at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore/DBM.pm line 626. I

Scalability issues with maRBL (the policy server for Postfix)?

2006-12-06 Thread Brian Wong
I have been using maRBL v1.1 for two weeks now and the results of selective greylisting based on RBL and p0f is impressive. Although I am happy with the results, from my experience I do not believe that it scales well. Anywhere between 1 to 3 days of running marbl my Postfix logs complain: Dec

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Steven Stern
Thomas Bolioli wrote: when I run sa-update it puts new copies of the tests in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001005/updates_spamassassin_org which I understand from the docs is the correct location. However, the default tests remain in /usr/share/spamassassin/ and I believe they are still being

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Duane Hill
Rick Mallett wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Duane Hill wrote: Thomas Bolioli wrote: when I run sa-update it puts new copies of the tests in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.001005/updates_spamassassin_org which I understand from the docs is the correct location. However, the default tests remain in

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matthias Leisi wrote: For certain kinds of spam, it would be advantageous to have a highly dynamic set of rules (eg stock spams). The usual methods (à la sa-update) are usually slow - slow as in once or twice a day; however I think it would make sense to have them fast - fast as in continuously

Re: SA, DCC rules du jour

2006-12-06 Thread René Berber
Vernon Webb wrote: Thanks for your response. However I do not know what you mean by this statement: Yes on both accounts, also enable the relevant part in v310.pre . The last part? It means that SA ships with DCC dissabled, and the file that does that is /etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre :

Re: Confused with sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Chris Purves
Sujit Choudhury wrote: I have run sa-update. The rules used to be in /usr/share/spamassassin SARE rules + local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin directory. However spamassassin -D --lint now shows the following: [28874] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules pre files [28874]

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 06:06:32PM +, Duane Hill wrote: how SA loads those rules up. It is my guess those rules take priority over the default set that is installed in /usr/share or /usr/local/share. Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this assumption.

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:26 PM +0100 Matthias Leisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As such, DNS could be used as a transport mechanism with reasonably chosen TTLs. sa-update already uses DNS to check for new updates. The record provides the latest version of the update rule set. The

Re: sa-update

2006-12-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:07 PM + Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would assume sa-update wouldn't overwrite the default distribution rules that are initially installed. That would mean they would have to be placed somewhere else. This would be based on the fact that a new

SpamAssassin dns timeouts... why?!

2006-12-06 Thread Richard D Alloway
Hi! I have been having loads of problems with spamassassin timing out during DNS lookups... If I use /usr/bin/spamassassin -D /tmp/spamemail.txt I see the correct IP used for the nameserver: [16018] dbg: dns: name server: 192.168.1.1, family: 2, ipv6: 0 Then, I see that the lookups took

Re: How to examine a system and determine the mail delivery agent.

2006-12-06 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Don Saklad wrote: How do novice end users, neophytes examine things and determine what is the mail delivery agent ?... They ask the system administrators. as a general understanding of the particular system at hand. For this they might have to read the documentation. Regards /Jonas --

SA not firing on every email

2006-12-06 Thread Craig
Yes I have asked this question previously, but with not as much detail. MY ENVIRONMENT SA 3.1.7 running on Windows 2000 Using Bayes In the past 2 days my email server has received 14,973 email messages, Spamassassin has scanned 10,951 of those messages, and my users have received @ 250 spam

Re: SA not firing on every email

2006-12-06 Thread Rick Macdougall
Craig wrote: Yes I have asked this question previously, but with not as much detail. MY ENVIRONMENT SA 3.1.7 running on Windows 2000 Using Bayes In the past 2 days my email server has received 14,973 email messages, Spamassassin has scanned 10,951 of those messages, and my users have

Spamassassin doesn't ding sender for saying HELO i-am-you

2006-12-06 Thread Kelly Jones
Spamassassin has lots of tests for fake HELOs. If someone says HELO hotmail.com, but aren't connecting from a Hotmail IP address, they get dinged (spam score is increased). Recently, someone connected our server, call it mx.xyz.com, and said HELO mx.xyz.com. Spamassassin didn't ding it for doing

cannot untaint path

2006-12-06 Thread John DeYoung
Hi all - Apologies if this is old hat; I wasn't able to find anything useful in my searches. In the past, I've seen messages like this, mostly in logs from sa-learn scripts, but recently it's become pretty constant. I think the problem starts with perl, but after that I get lost. Can

Re: Spamassassin doesn't ding sender for saying HELO i-am-you

2006-12-06 Thread Bill Landry
Kelly Jones wrote the following on 12/6/2006 8:13 PM -0800: Spamassassin has lots of tests for fake HELOs. If someone says HELO hotmail.com, but aren't connecting from a Hotmail IP address, they get dinged (spam score is increased). Recently, someone connected our server, call it mx.xyz.com,

Re: SpamAssassin dns timeouts... why?!

2006-12-06 Thread Matthias Häker
Richard D Alloway schrieb: Hi! I have been having loads of problems with spamassassin timing out during DNS lookups... If I use /usr/bin/spamassassin -D /tmp/spamemail.txt I see the correct IP used for the nameserver: [16018] dbg: dns: name server: 192.168.1.1, family: 2, ipv6: 0

Re: Rule update over DNS?

2006-12-06 Thread Jason Haar
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: What's stopping you from running sa-update more frequently? I run it once an hour on most of my systems. May I propose that sa-update should become merged into spamd? (or daemonized) I'm thinking of lessons learned with ClamAV. Once upon a time they relied on people