Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread jdow
From: Wil Decius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 2008, July 13 18:20 if mail contains Received headers indicating that mail was forwarded by a trusted hop (a hop is not necessarily a box. it may be a proxy, an MTA instance, ... etc), then addresses may have been rewritten and are thus

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread ram
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 07:06 -0700, Wil Decius wrote: I'm trying to get Spamassassin local configuration setup to whitleist-by-SPF. The box, as delivered to me, runs Debian with spamassassin -V SpamAssassin version 3.2.5-r609689 running on Perl version 5.8.8 In local.cf I've

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread jdow
From: jdow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2008, July 14 01:18 From: Wil Decius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 2008, July 13 18:20 if mail contains Received headers indicating that mail was forwarded by a trusted hop (a hop is not necessarily a box. it may be a proxy, an MTA instance, ...

Re: spam getting through because of bayes confidence

2008-07-14 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.07.08 13:49, Kathryn Kleinschafer wrote: I have some spam coming into the system that seems to be only going to a couple of domains. The bayes confidence is 0-1% for the spam so it is getting a -2.6. It is hitting on the following rules -2.60 BAYES_00Bayesian spam

Re: spam getting through because of bayes confidence

2008-07-14 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kathryn Kleinschafer schrieb: | Am I supposed to reload a service or is there something else I have missed? Yes, every change to a *.cf or *.pre file requires a restart of spamd (as opposed to the standalone spamassassin binary, which will read

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
Answering my own observation this seems to work with my fetchmail based system: always_trust_envelope_sender 1 Adding that line to my local.cf has no apparent effect -- at least on messages from the sender. They're still Passing SPF, but NOT getting whitelisted.

RE: sa-addon-stats.pl

2008-07-14 Thread Bowie Bailey
Bill Randle wrote: On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 16:52 -0500, Chris wrote: Bowie, you wrote this script back in 2006, I've been running it since back in Aug 0f 2006 and today just noticed something. The addition doesn't seem to be quite right. For instance: FreeMail.cf: Rule Name

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 06:08:30AM -0700, Wil Decius wrote: Answering my own observation this seems to work with my fetchmail based system: always_trust_envelope_sender 1 Adding that line to my local.cf has no apparent effect -- at least on messages from the sender. They're still

collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread andys
Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users sees a mail and decides that it is in fact spam its already been

Suggestion for Freemail Plugin Enhancements

2008-07-14 Thread Marc Perkel
May I suggest that the test for reply_to and email addresses in the body of the email be separate routins and separate rules and separate scores. Also perhaps there should be a rule to see if the from is freemail but no freemail in received headers. For example, from is yahoo.com but no yahoo

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
Try adding envelope_sender_header Return-Path I added that as well -- no difference. Using the manual debug output from above, I noticed, [7562] dbg: spf: def_whitelist_from_spf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in DEF_WHITELIST_FROM_SPF [7562] dbg: spf: whitelist_from_spf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread Stefan Jakobs
On Friday 11 July 2008 17:29, andys wrote: Hi, Hello, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users sees a mail and

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 15:48 +0200, Stefan Jakobs wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 17:29, andys wrote: for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 06:49 -0700, Wil Decius wrote: [7562] dbg: spf: whitelist_from_spf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in user's WHITELIST_FROM_SPF ^^^ but checking again in local.cf grep technologyladder.com local.cf whitelist_from_spf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apparently that's

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread Stefan Jakobs
On Monday 14 July 2008 16:27, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 15:48 +0200, Stefan Jakobs wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 17:29, andys wrote: for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
Are you sure you're checking the correct config file? Yes. From the debug output, [7596] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules dir [7596] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf Which is the file I'm editing. In any case, other changes to it get picked up

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread Diego Pomatta
andys escribió: Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users sees a mail and decides that it is in fact spam its

collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread andys
Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users sees a mail and decides that it is in fact spam its already been removed

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread DAve
andys wrote: Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users sees a mail and decides that it is in fact spam its already

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:14 -0700, Wil Decius wrote: Are you sure you're checking the correct config file? Yes. From the debug output, [7596] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules dir [7596] dbg: config: read file /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf Which is the file

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:16 -0400, DAve wrote: andys wrote: Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once a users

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
That's the sitewide config file, though, and the debug output explicitly says [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in user's WHITELIST_FROM_SPF. Ok. I'm not sure what to do about that -- I'm only reporting what I see. There is only ONE local.cf on this box.

Simple rule to score based on number of recipients

2008-07-14 Thread vgrig_us
Hello to all... Due to social engineering attacks, we have a real for simple rule that'll add score based on number of recipients on our outgoing servers. I tried to find something like that in standard SA rules, but didn't see anything... Has anyone on this least done that? Any standard rule

sare rules?

2008-07-14 Thread Skip Brott
This was probably discussed at some point, but I haven't been getting emails from the list for some time. The dates I see on all my sare rule sets are in January when I moved to 3.2.4. My updates_spamassassin_org.cf file is dated June 17. I debugged saupdate and this appears correct. But

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread jdow
From: John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2008, July 14 09:30 On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:14 -0700, Wil Decius wrote: Are you sure you're checking the correct config file? Yes. From the debug output, [7596] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules dir [7596] dbg:

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread mouss
jdow wrote: From: John Hardin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2008, July 14 09:30 On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 08:14 -0700, Wil Decius wrote: Are you sure you're checking the correct config file? Yes. From the debug output, [7596] dbg: config: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules dir

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
It's REALLY shooting in the dark beause it indicates a possibly broken parser, but, I'm inclined to suggest that as quoted he has a lead blank in front of his whitelist_from_spf entry. I'd also retype it to make sre there are no messed up characters line a 0xa0 space in there. (I also found

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread DAve
John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:16 -0400, DAve wrote: andys wrote: Hi, for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by sa-learn? Users are downloading mail via POP3, so once

parsing original SMTP not working properly?

2008-07-14 Thread Tom Fernandes
Hi, I might have hitten a bug in the way SA parses out the original SMTP host. I send and email from my mail client (to myself) through the SMTP server of GMX. SA thinks the Mail was sent directly from my computer (i.e. my dsl-routers IP) without using GMXs SMTP server. SPF_FAIL, RCVD_IN_PBL

Re: parsing original SMTP not working properly?

2008-07-14 Thread mouss
Tom Fernandes wrote: Hi, I might have hitten a bug in the way SA parses out the original SMTP host. I send and email from my mail client (to myself) through the SMTP server of GMX. SA thinks the Mail was sent directly from my computer (i.e. my dsl-routers IP) without using GMXs SMTP server.

Is ASN information useful?

2008-07-14 Thread Marc Perkel
Has anyone determined if ASN information is useful in determining if a message is/is not spam?

RE: Is ASN information useful?

2008-07-14 Thread James Pratt
-Original Message- From: Marc Perkel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:55 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Is ASN information useful? Has anyone determined if ASN information is useful in determining if a message is/is not spam? Apparently

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Wil Decius wrote: Try adding envelope_sender_header Return-Path I added that as well -- no difference. Using the manual debug output from above, I noticed, [7562] dbg: spf: def_whitelist_from_spf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not in DEF_WHITELIST_FROM_SPF [7562] dbg:

Re: sare rules?

2008-07-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
On Jul 14, 2008, at 13:01, Skip Brott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was probably discussed at some point, but I haven't been getting emails from the list for some time. The dates I see on all my sare rule sets are in January when I moved to 3.2.4. My updates_spamassassin_org.cf file is

Re: SPF-check works, but Whitelist-by-SPF does not

2008-07-14 Thread Wil Decius
Just for SGs, try changing that whitelist_from_spf [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a def_whitelist_from_spf [EMAIL PROTECTED] That made some sense to me to try! But, unfortunately, still no change. One other possibility, it may be due to issues parsing the Received: header that your MTA adds. It

Re: parsing original SMTP not working properly?

2008-07-14 Thread Tom Fernandes
Hi, On Monday, 14. July 2008, mouss wrote: Tom Fernandes wrote: Hi, I might have hitten a bug in the way SA parses out the original SMTP host. I send and email from my mail client (to myself) through the SMTP server of GMX. SA thinks the Mail was sent directly from my computer (i.e.

Re: Is ASN information useful?

2008-07-14 Thread Matthias Leisi
Marc Perkel schrieb: Has anyone determined if ASN information is useful in determining if a message is/is not spam? Unfortunately, it does not seem to be *that* useful: http://matthias.leisi.net/archives/176-Where-does-your-spam-come-from.html -- Matthias

DKIM problems

2008-07-14 Thread jdow
I just enabled DKIM. It sort of works. I get this error when I run a scan but not for lint: [5340] warn: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/DomainKeys/Key/Public.pm line 67. init.pre now contains # DKIM pligin # loadplugin

Re: parsing original SMTP not working properly?

2008-07-14 Thread mouss
Tom Fernandes wrote: [snip] Not sure if I get your right. The way of the mail is the following: MUA (kmail) - GMXs SMTP Server - GMX forwards it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have set it like this in my account preferences at GMX) - fdm (which is a similar to fetchmail)

Re: DKIM problems

2008-07-14 Thread mouss
jdow wrote: I just enabled DKIM. It sort of works. I get this error when I run a scan but not for lint: [5340] warn: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/DomainKeys/Key/Public.pm line 67. This is DomainKeys, not DKIM. The DKIM module supports both

Re: Is ASN information useful?

2008-07-14 Thread SM
At 15:14 14-07-2008, Matthias Leisi wrote: Unfortunately, it does not seem to be *that* useful: I've seen some ASNs sending spam only but I don't use that as a rule as it will catch some good mail over time. As you mentioned, the volume also depends on the size of the ASN. BTW, you won't

Re: DKIM problems

2008-07-14 Thread jdow
From: mouss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2008, July 14 15:39 jdow wrote: I just enabled DKIM. It sort of works. I get this error when I run a scan but not for lint: [5340] warn: Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Mail/DomainKeys/Key/Public.pm line

Re: parsing original SMTP not working properly?

2008-07-14 Thread Tom Fernandes
Hi, On Tuesday, 15. July 2008, mouss wrote: Tom Fernandes wrote: [snip] Not sure if I get your right. The way of the mail is the following: MUA (kmail) - GMXs SMTP Server - GMX forwards it from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I have set it like this in my account preferences

Re: Is ASN information useful?

2008-07-14 Thread Chris
On Monday 14 July 2008 2:55 pm, Marc Perkel wrote: Has anyone determined if ASN information is useful in determining if a message is/is not spam? Don't know about useful this is, but I can get a report any time of guilty ASN's from the SpamTools scripts I run. Below is the top 10 spamming ASN's

Re: collecting mail for sa-learn, how to?

2008-07-14 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 14:11 -0400, DAve wrote: John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 12:16 -0400, DAve wrote: andys wrote: for a mail server running email for multiple domains what is the typical/recommended way to collect emails which arent detected as spam to be processed by