Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017, Kevin Golding wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:08:39 -, Jari Fredriksson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hardin kirjoitti 20.1.2017 22:38: > Collecting spam after RBL filtering is much less helpful to masscheck. > Ideally your

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017, Kevin Golding wrote: On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:35:12 -, David Jones wrote: I think the "barrier to entry" is too difficult for most. I would have to setup a new MX on a domain without MTA checks (DNS and RBL) then create a honeypot email address to

Re: Low spam score: -1.9

2017-01-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Reindl Harald kirjoitti 21.1.2017 22:33: > Am 21.01.2017 um 21:21 schrieb Jari Fredriksson: >> Emin Akbulut kirjoitti 10.1.2017 9:48: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Recently we receive spam messages and SA cannot block them. >>> I've also checked the raw

Re: Low spam score: -1.9

2017-01-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Emin Akbulut kirjoitti 10.1.2017 9:48: > Hi all, > > Recently we receive spam messages and SA cannot block them. > I've also checked the raw message at http://spamcheck.postmarkapp.com/ > and score was very low either. > > I've trained the SA and it worked for a while but now it's useless.

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Golding kirjoitti 21.1.2017 21:22: > On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:08:39 -, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> John Hardin kirjoitti 20.1.2017 22:38: >> >>> Collecting spam after

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Kevin Golding
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 19:08:39 -, Jari Fredriksson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hardin kirjoitti 20.1.2017 22:38: Collecting spam after RBL filtering is much less helpful to masscheck. Ideally your spam corpus is from a totally unfiltered feed.

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Jari Fredriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hardin kirjoitti 20.1.2017 22:38: > Collecting spam after RBL filtering is much less helpful to masscheck. > Ideally your spam corpus is from a totally unfiltered feed. > > However, even if it is filtered and small, it helps, *especially* if >

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread David Jones
>On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:35:12 + >David Jones wrote: >> I think the "barrier to entry" is too difficult for most.  I would >> have to setup a new MX on a domain without MTA checks (DNS and RBL) >I hope it doesn't actually say that anywhere. IMO the corpora should be >dominated by the spam

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread RW
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:35:12 + David Jones wrote: > I think the "barrier to entry" is too difficult for most. I would > have to setup a new MX on a domain without MTA checks (DNS and RBL) I hope it doesn't actually say that anywhere. IMO the corpora should be dominated by the spam that's

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Kevin Golding
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:35:12 -, David Jones wrote: I think the "barrier to entry" is too difficult for most. I would have to setup a new MX on a domain without MTA checks (DNS and RBL) then create a honeypot email address to attract spam if I didn't have established

Re: How does sa know when pyzor sees a spam msg?

2017-01-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 21.01.17 11:20, Harry Putnam wrote: I'm looking to understand the actual mechanism whereby pyzor tells sa it thinks a message is spam. What does sa look for. that's problem of Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Pyzor plugin. My sa setup allows sa to insert X-Spam headers and then procmail looks

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Axb
On 01/21/2017 05:35 PM, David Jones wrote: On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:02:09 -, Tom Hendrikx wrote: As John has said, diversity makes the rules more accurate for more people. Also many hands make light work. With more people involved there's not such a requirement to

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread David Jones
>On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:02:09 -, Tom Hendrikx wrote: >As John has said, diversity makes the rules more accurate for more people. >Also many hands make light work. With more people involved there's not >such a requirement to contribute thousands of messages per person. I

How does sa know when pyzor sees a spam msg?

2017-01-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Having a heck of a time googling for this answer. I'm looking to understand the actual mechanism whereby pyzor tells sa it thinks a message is spam. What does sa look for. My sa setup allows sa to insert X-Spam headers and then procmail looks for certain of those :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc

Re: No rule updates since 1/1/17

2017-01-21 Thread Kevin Golding
On Fri, 20 Jan 2017 19:02:09 -, Tom Hendrikx wrote: I think I can say the same about my platform, but since this issue keeps popping up I just applied for an account just to find out if my contribution could help. I can't speculate so I'm just gonna try if it helps :)