Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Ian Zimmerman wrote: I stopped autolearning and hacked up some scripts that put duplicate of each ham message into a folder which is then processed by sa-learn from a cronjob, with sufficient delay that I can review the contents and remove any false negatives; and similarly

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

On 2017-08-08 15:20, Scott wrote: > Another new one big score, auto-learn disabled. This one is fairly small. > > X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=29.428 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.4 > tests=[DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.076, DCC_CHECK=3.2, > DIGEST_MULTIPLE=0.001, > FILL_THIS_FORM=0.001,

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Another new one big score, auto-learn disabled. This one is fairly small. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=29.428 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.4 tests=[DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.076, DCC_CHECK=3.2, DIGEST_MULTIPLE=0.001, FILL_THIS_FORM=0.001, FROM_MISSPACED=0.001, FROM_MISSP_SPF_FAIL=1,

Re: apache.org have URIBL_BLOCKED now :/

On 08/08/2017 02:32 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > subj might concern infra staff > > forward please to infra > URIBL_BLOCKED means that the URIBL refused your DNS query: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml The name "apache.org" isn't blacklisted, and there's nothing apache can do to fix it. You

RE: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

>you need to train your bayes *by hand* to start with - how do you expect >bayes classification with no hints afetr purge the database - train 200 >ham and spam mails and *after that* look further Reindl: Thanks. I want to use some auto-training with very conservative thresholds set. All of

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

I was getting my commands missed up, been looking at this too long. When I ran su amavis -c 'spamassassin -D 2>&1 -t onespam' That caused it to LEARN the spam. Database went from not there to one learned. Auto-learn apparently. That's what it should have done when it arrived. Brand new spam

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Benny: re tflags > tflags foo-rule-name noautolearn > and you can force autolearn based on rulename > https://lists.gt.net/spamassassin/users/184996 > there is a long thread there that explain it more >and all condition must be met for learning I read the thread. Nothing there concrete enough

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Cleared the database, ran below on the same message: su amavis -c 'spamassassin -D 2>&1 -t onespam' | less I didn't see any errors obvious to me. It recreated the databases and added this message as expected. I don't know how to tell why it would not have auto-learned. Can you tell/

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:19: Does this one have the requisite 3-point match? I don't understand how to tell yet. spamassassin -D 2>&1 -t mail.msg | less should show why

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:04:16 -0700 (MST) Scott wrote: > The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning No it's just a sanity check to reduce mistraining. If you can, don't use autotraining at all.

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Apologies, I meant sa-learn. Brain fart. Thanks for the clarification on the 3-point rule. I've had a bunch of them come through. They all get autolearn=no or I get a few that say "unavailable" like the sample below. I gather from trying to figure out myself that unavailable may be things

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:06: Better, what test flags in general disable auto-learn? tflags foo-rule-name noautolearn and you can force autolearn based on rulename https://lists.gt.net/spamassassin/users/184996 there is a long thread there that explain it more and all condition must

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Scott skrev den 2017-08-08 22:04: The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning via sa-update then? typo ?. sa-update does not learn, it just update rules, you meant sa-learn ? when sa-learn is used, its not autolearn, so the limits are not appled

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

> some of the listed tags have tflags that disable autolearn < there is nothing to fix here Benny: Will you elaborate for me please? So I can understand and self-help. Better, what test flags in general disable auto-learn? -- View this message in context:

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

The "3 points" criteria does not apply to manually learning via sa-update then? -- View this message in context: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/Bayes-auto-learn-not-happening-tp138065p138071.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: apache.org have URIBL_BLOCKED now :/

On 8/8/2017 2:32 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: subj might concern infra staff forward please to infra Thanks. Can you give more details? I just sent a test message from my kmcgr...@apache.org and don't see an issue. Is there a specific RBL? Return-Path: Received: from

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:06:26 -0500 Scott Techlist wrote: > Centos7 > Postfix 3.2.2 > Amavisd-new 2.11.0 > Spamassassin 3.4.0 > Site-wide configuration > > This is a new box and I've configured some conservative values for > auto-learn. I've enabled it properly AFAIK, but I can't see any sign >

apache.org have URIBL_BLOCKED now :/

subj might concern infra staff forward please to infra

Re: Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Scott Techlist skrev den 2017-08-08 20:06: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Score: 17.374 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=17.374 tag=- tag2=5 kill=6.31 tests=[RCVD_IN_BRBL_LASTEXT=1.644, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL=1.284,

Bayes auto-learn - not happening

Centos7 Postfix 3.2.2 Amavisd-new 2.11.0 Spamassassin 3.4.0 Site-wide configuration This is a new box and I've configured some conservative values for auto-learn. I've enabled it properly AFAIK, but I can't see any sign of it working. I have these set in local.cf use_bayes 1

Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

Dianne Skoll skrev den 2017-08-08 20:09: On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:01:52 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: why does the OP need to tell sendgrid his users passwords ? That is indeed a very good question. :) +1 It's not as if this is some sort of mass-mailing or marketing-oriented

Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:01:52 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > why does the OP need to tell sendgrid his users passwords ? That is indeed a very good question. :) It's not as if this is some sort of mass-mailing or marketing-oriented email that needs to be tracked. Regards, Dianne.

Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

Dianne Skoll skrev den 2017-08-08 15:05: On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:00:04 -0500 David Jones wrote: I absolutely agree but it's possible that this part is out of his control. Sendgrid might be receiving a plain text email from the normal source and adding HTML to get that image in

RE: Sender needs help with false positive

It did. At first I couldn't figure out why it was HTML because the software was sending plain text message. When I realized it was sendgrid tracing method that was converting the messages to HTML in order to embed the img tag so I turned off the tracing. -Original Message- From: Dianne

HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:00:04 -0500 David Jones wrote: > I absolutely agree but it's possible that this part is out of his > control. Sendgrid might be receiving a plain text email from the > normal source and adding HTML to get that image in there for > tracking. If you can't

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

On 08/08/2017 07:43 AM, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:36:01 -0500 David Jones wrote: The origin of the email and the path it takes makes a big difference in how it's filtered. Sure, but doing a plain-text message with no HTML will immediately knock 2.2 points off

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:36:01 -0500 David Jones wrote: > The origin of the email and the path it takes makes a big difference > in how it's filtered. Sure, but doing a plain-text message with no HTML will immediately knock 2.2 points off the score. That's a pretty cheap and easy

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

On 08/07/2017 07:36 PM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: David, Thanks a lot. I will try to modify the email text to have more 'meat on the bone'. I am just surprised email with no links, no adds, no attempts to sell anything can be interpreted as a spam. That img in the email is a tag from SendGrid

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

Required score -20 on inbound scanning to protect outbound spam? Op MSG was dkim signed and valid au, why was it not ADD to whitelist auth, maybe i was sleeping :(

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

Avoid marketing mass-mailers when sending administrative messages. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: > We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We send > very brief emails containing the reset