Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-09 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Adam Katz wrote: I wrote: My tests have been mildly successful on this note, with FROM_WWW already getting promoted out of testing: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=/FROM_Wsrcpath=khop This indicates that we don't actually need to parse any further because there is no

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-09 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 8 Feb 2010, Adam Katz wrote: Maybe it's just because I'm testing on the command line, but FROM_URI appears to only fire if there's a character in front of the www. portion. It does. I'm explicitly targeting a quoted comment part. My rule is

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-08 Thread Joseph Brennan
Here's some more data for whatever it's worth. Our spam reports box since Jan 25 shows this style in definite spam: From: Get Cialis on www.wa93.com heirs...@imagina.es From: Get Tamiflu on www.qa35.com inexpedie...@quantumtouch.nl From: Cheap Tamiflu on www.nu36.com

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-08 Thread Mike Cardwell
On 08/02/2010 16:56, Joseph Brennan wrote: Here's some more data for whatever it's worth. Our spam reports box since Jan 25 shows this style in definite spam: From: Get Cialis on www.wa93.com heirs...@imagina.es From: Get Tamiflu on www.qa35.com inexpedie...@quantumtouch.nl From: Cheap

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-08 Thread Adam Katz
I wrote: My tests have been mildly successful on this note, with FROM_WWW already getting promoted out of testing: http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/?rule=/FROM_Wsrcpath=khop This indicates that we don't actually need to parse any further because there is no sizable mass of legitimate mail

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-02 Thread RW
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:09:24 -0500 Adam Katz antis...@khopis.com wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: There was a recent suggestion that 'personal name' text from the From: header should be included in the text examined by 'body' rules, which already includes the Subject: text. This sounds like

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-01 Thread Adam Katz
Martin Gregorie wrote: Apparently putting the spam's payload in the personal name part of the From: header is as old a trick as putting it in the Subject: header though I hadn't seen it used until recently. There was a recent suggestion that 'personal name' text from the From: header should

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 12:09 -0500, Adam Katz wrote: It might be nice to have the URI rule check From, Reply-to, and Subject. We'd have to be careful so as to not include /all/ headers as many different mailing lists use various headers for subscription management and PGP systems often use

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-02-01 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010, Adam Katz wrote: Martin Gregorie wrote: Apparently putting the spam's payload in the personal name part of the From: header is as old a trick as putting it in the Subject: header though I hadn't seen it used until recently. There was a recent suggestion that 'personal

How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Kārlis Repsons
People, perhaps its simple to be done, but I personally would like to know the ways to get rid of something like this: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: marty rizin g suppe r socio logy mason ing Date: Friday 29 January 2010 From: Cheap Tamiflu on www.ra97.com

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
On 30/01/2010 13:35, Kārlis Repsons wrote: People, perhaps its simple to be done, but I personally would like to know the ways to get rid of something like this: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: marty rizin g suppe r socio logy mason ing Date: Friday 29 January

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Kārlis Repsons karlis.reps...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 13:35:26 + People, perhaps its simple to be done, but I personally would like to know the ways to get rid of something like this: Use pastebin and save the entire message including the headers instead

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Saturday 30 January 2010 13:51:18 Mike Cardwell wrote: By forwarding the email the way you have, your email client has stripped out most of the useful header information. Try pasting the message including the full set of headers into http://spamalyser.com/ or http://pastebin.com/ or similar

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Saturday 30 January 2010 13:54:14 Jeff Mincy wrote: Retrain the message correctly in Bayes. Bayes will catch on to this after a few times. The subject alone should be a strong enough clue for bayes (I get BAYES_80 on this partial sample), so it looks like you are doing only autolearn and

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Kārlis Repsons karlis.reps...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:07:16 + On Saturday 30 January 2010 13:54:14 Jeff Mincy wrote: Retrain the message correctly in Bayes. Bayes will catch on to this after a few times. The subject alone should be a strong enough clue

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 13:35 +, Kārlis Repsons wrote: People, perhaps its simple to be done, but I personally would like to know the ways to get rid of something like this: Apparently putting the spam's payload in the personal name part of the From: header is as old a trick as putting

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Dale Carstensen
The Postfix program users@spamassassin.apache.org: host mx1.us.apache.org[140.211.11.136] said: 552 spam score (10.4) exceeded threshold (in reply to end of DATA command) Karlis, That's what the list said about my reply to you. I guess the (I was going to write that

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann
Am 30.01.2010 16:48, schrieb Jeff Mincy: From: K�rlis Repsons karlis.reps...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:07:16 + On Saturday 30 January 2010 13:54:14 Jeff Mincy wrote: Retrain the message correctly in Bayes. Bayes will catch on to this after a few times.

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Saturday 30 January 2010 15:48:36 Jeff Mincy wrote: BAYES_99,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_FIVETEN_SPAM,RCVD_IN_NIX SPAM,RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT1,RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT2,RCVD_IN_UCEPROTECT3,BOTNET,BOT NET_BADDNS Botnet/FIVETEN/NIXSPAM/UCEPROTECT are additional rules added. -jeff

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
On 30/01/2010 17:14, Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann wrote: I couldn't figure out how to get an unadulterated version of the message from the spamalyser.com link you posted in a previous message. I tried this wget -O - -q http://spamalyser.com/v/5cbffujq/original.txt pastebin has a simple way to

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 30.1.2010 19:14, Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann wrote: in the Raw Message tab you can get the plain message (http://spamalyser.com/v/5cbffujq/raw) It's not raw message, it has a line number on each row. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ You may be recognized soon. Hide. signature.asc

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Kārlis Repsons
On Saturday 30 January 2010 16:55:54 Dale Carstensen wrote: The Postfix program users@spamassassin.apache.org: host mx1.us.apache.org[140.211.11.136] said: 552 spam score (10.4) exceeded threshold (in reply to end of DATA command) Karlis, That's what the list said

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread RW
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:25:15 +0200 Jari Fredriksson ja...@iki.fi wrote: On 30.1.2010 19:14, Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann wrote: in the Raw Message tab you can get the plain message (http://spamalyser.com/v/5cbffujq/raw) It's not raw message, it has a line number on each row. Click on

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Ralph Bornefeld-Ettmann ilike...@bornefeld-ettmann.de Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:14:10 +0100 Am 30.01.2010 16:48, schrieb Jeff Mincy: From: Kārlis Repsons karlis.reps...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:07:16 + On Saturday 30 January 2010

Re: How should this tricky spam be filtered?

2010-01-30 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Kārlis Repsons karlis.reps...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 17:20:23 + On Saturday 30 January 2010 15:48:36 Jeff Mincy wrote: BAYES_99,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_FIVETEN_SPAM,RCVD_IN_NIX