RE: [sa] Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-10 Thread R-Elists
Now THAT is off-topic. We are discussing the use of SA at SMTP time. Please stay on-topic for this group, and for this thread. If you actually care to continue, I expect a reasonable response to my arguments about rejection being better than bouncing or silent diversion. Geez, you

Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-10 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010, R-Elists wrote: Charles Gregory Quote:Re: [sa] Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA The only efficiency to be gained is to reject as much as possible after the RCPT_TO, before accepting DATA. But for systems like mine, with lousy user cooperation, rejecting some of the mail after DATA

SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-09 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Second: you are completely misguided in your wish to reject mail after SMTP data stage. You may certainly argue for YOUR preference (and I emphasise *preference*) for the most 'efficient' way to run an SMTP server, but there is nothing sufficiently

Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Charles, just a quick answer as we are really OT. It all simply boils down to (quoting me): avoid unnecessary processing and avoid unncessary traffic. and I might add now: with the least disadvantages on both sides. Assess that and you find it doesn't make sense to spam-scan messages and

Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-09 Thread John Rudd
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 08:03, Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Charles, just a quick answer as we are really OT. It all simply boils down to (quoting me): avoid unnecessary processing and avoid unncessary traffic. and I might add now: with the least disadvantages on both sides.

Re: [sa] Re: SMTP REJECT after DATA (was: SpamAssassin Milter Plugin...)

2010-03-09 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Kai Schaetzl wrote: and you find it doesn't make sense to spam-scan messages and reject them in/after DATA stage in a real world scenario. You ignore my arguments. Hardly surprising. You reword yours, but say nothing new. It makes only sense if you are die-hard